After all Gorilla Glass 3 may not be as bad as we thought. - Xiaomi Poco F1 Guides, News, & Discussion

The first Gorilla Glass was ready between 2005 and 2006, but its big debut really came with the iPhone. Apple released its device to the world in 2007 and, at the company’s request, the technology on its display was 1.5 mm thick and had an oleophobic coating, which minimized fingerprints and smudges.In 2012, Corning released Gorilla Glass 2 at the CES. The glass was just as resistant, but its main update was its thickness. The second generation was 20% thinner than the first model. In lab tests, it could hold up to 50 kg of pressure without cracking or breaking.In that same year, Gorilla Glass was included on 600 million devices. Since this version was thinner than the first, it let manufacturers develop lighter and thinner models of their phones. Both the Nexus 4 and the Galaxy S3 came equipped with Gorilla Glass 2.Gorilla Glass 3 glass brought even more resistance with it, unlike the previous version which was more focused on thickness. This is also the generation that introduced Native Damage Resistance (NDR) technology, which allowed the glass to handle even deeper scratches. According to Corning, the third generation prevented up to 35% of the scratches on the display. To commemorate the third version of their tech, Corning planned on increasing the resistance of its Gorilla Glass three-fold compared to older versions. They could do this thanks to a new manufacturing process. GG 3 was released at the CES 2013, and it came on models like the Galaxy S4, the Moto G, and the Moto X.
Shift of focus from scratches to shatter proof:
In 2014, Corning presented its Gorilla Glass with a bold new objective. Through one of its surveys, the company found out that 70% of cell phone screen damage was due to drops, and so it began investing in reinforcing its glass. The GG 4 was developed focused on the idea of being resistant to drops.The fifth generation was released focused on providing even more resistance to drops, and it delivered with four times the strength as the previous version. Corning has released that in lab tests, the GG 5 has survived drops of up to 1.6 meters. That said, the manufacturer also guarantees that its technology can prevent cracks in up to 80% of falls onto extremely hard surfaces at the height of 1 meter
Trade-off seen in GG4 and GG5 when compared to GG3
GG3 has the greatest scratch resistance of all the Gorilla Glasses because GG4 and GG5 sacrifice some scratch resistance for greater impact resistance. However even with GG3, the surface of the glass is still prone to microscopic scratches and abrasions that reduce its dust resistance, oil/water resistance and impact resistance over time. With GG4 and GG5 being a little less scratch resistant a screen protector is more important than ever, and you can always replace the protector for less than 200 bucks if it becomes damaged.
So GG3 is not so bad at all, After all GG5 has only 1 Meter drop protection which seems to be inadequate to me when it comes to the tortures we commit on our phones:laugh::laugh:

Cool story bro
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Ofc gc3 isnt so bad. GC3 was top when it came. The problem nowadays, people just need the best of all, not good ones. IF there is something better, the rest is crap, for that people.

Just refer to JeryyRigEverything scratch test on phones with GG3, GG4 and GG5, they all scratch at level 6 mho scale meaning there's really no difference when it comes to scratch resistance as for drop resistance GG4 and GG5 may have an advantage but if you just slap a case on your phone anyway then you won't have any problems. (Even the cheapest case would do as long as it covers the corners and sides!)

poco phone screen is really fragile , also consider the weight , 4000 mah quite heavy , invest in a good case

I was not using any kind of protector till a few days back. I keep the phone only in one pocket no other item still got microscopic scratches. Had to put a tempered glass which I personally don't like.

n00b_dr0id said:
I was not using any kind of protector till a few days back. I keep the phone only in one pocket no other item still got microscopic scratches. Had to put a tempered glass which I personally don't like.
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Micro-scratching will occur no matter which phone you buy. If you can live with them, then you can live without a screen protector. Personally, I feel a decent screen protector is worth the investment, just don't cheap out and apply the cheapest one available and it would be fine I guess.

Negi9 said:
Micro-scratching will occur no matter which phone you buy. If you can live with them, then you can live without a screen protector. Personally, I feel a decent screen protector is worth the investment, just don't cheap out and apply the cheapest one available and it would be fine I guess.
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well, I could show you my 3,5 y.o. iphone6 and I never used a screen protector but there's no scratch at all.
however my pocophone already got a slightly deeper scratch - thus and due to the polarization issue I'm using a protector now - and my tissot a few more (~5).

meltbanana said:
well, I could show you my 3,5 y.o. iphone6 and I never used a screen protector but there's no scratch at all.
however my pocophone already got a slightly deeper scratch - thus and due to the polarization issue I'm using a protector now - and my tissot a few more (~5).
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I am not saying you're lying, but there's a plethora of variables involved with your claim. It might be true (due to iPhone 6 being a flagship with a hefty price tag) that it has a superior quality screen but no glass screen is immune to scratches. It only takes a sand particle dragged with just enough force, no glass would be able to prevent a scratch.

Negi9 said:
I am not saying you're lying, but there's a plethora of variables involved with your claim. It might be true (due to iPhone 6 being a flagship with a hefty price tag) that it has a superior quality screen but no glass screen is immune to scratches. It only takes a sand particle dragged with just enough force, no glass would be able to prevent a scratch.
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believe it or not, it's fact

meltbanana said:
believe it or not, it's fact
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You didn't get my point at all lol. Nevermind.

Negi9 said:
You didn't get my point at all lol. Nevermind.
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dude, "I am not saying you're lying ..." maybe isn't the best way to kick off a conversation.
without a doubt the iphone6 was sold at $800 and has a supreme, extremely scratch resistant or nearly scratch-proof glass but that's not my point.
I even own a tissot and it got ~5 deeper scratches from dust in my trousers pockets(?) in about 3 months.
my experience with GG3 is anything else than good.

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i thot gorrila screens were strong!
Sonone said:
i thot gorrila screens were strong!
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Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.
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Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.
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BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?
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BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?
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I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.
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I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.
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ya i have ordered a matte screen guard would be coming soon... thanks for the advice mate!

S6's gorilla glass 4 - is it really shatter proof?

A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.
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A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
Japultra said:
AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM
All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.
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A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.
no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone
i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE
The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.
bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....
We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.
Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...

Honor 6x Catastrophically Fails Durability Testing....

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...cally-jerryrigeverythings-durability-testing/
"The glass used on the Honor 6X appears to be very, very prone to scratching. It scratches at level 4 hardness, whereas most phones won't scratch until level 6. It's possible Huawei didn't use the same hardened glass other phones use (Gorilla Glass or similar). Weirdly, the label used to mark the scratch test area wouldn't even peel off like it does on other phones. There's definitely something funky going on here."
"The real issue becomes apparent in the bend test. The rear metal housing is only attached to the body of the phone with a few plastic clips, so it pops right off when the phone starts to bend. That means it offers no structural support to the phone. The LCD panel is destroyed very quickly as a result."
"This is a cheap phone, so you wouldn't necessarily expect it to be indestructible. However, the Moto G4 that was tested just recently passed with flying colors. Huawei really seems to have miscalculated here. The scratch-prone display in particular is a big problem that people will actually experience from normal wear and tear."
I was expecting it to do well at zacks test because the Honor 5X did okay, but this was so very dissapointing. It's the worst phone he tested and to think that this phone costs more than the 5X. Such a shame that durability is ****.
Yeah, the Honor 6X's durability is very disappointing. As the displays litterally pops out during Zack's bend test.
Just don't bend it? Don't keep it in a back pocket or at the bottom of a bag. Pretty standard procedure.
I'm ordering an extra set of screen protector...
this is definitely not gorilla or any other high end scratch resistance glass and it was not mentioned anywhere.....having an extra pair of screen guard is always needed.
The people who take JerryRigEverything's "durability tests" seriously are simply put, dumb. The videos he make are for pure entertainment purpose. Who lights up their phone's screen with a lighter? Are there still people who wouldn't protect their screen with a protector anyway? And seriously who the heck tries to bend their phone in half even if you're a rough user. Dumbness is taking over the people.
I own Honor 6X from about a month, I have about 10 hours SoT daily on my phone. With that kinda usage, I have 0 scratches so on my screen or back so far. And of course no freakin "bends" like it's a metal ruler lol.
Thanks , didn't knew that.
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The people who take JerryRigEverything's "durability tests" seriously are simply put, dumb. The videos he make are for pure entertainment purpose. Who lights up their phone's screen with a lighter? Are there still people who wouldn't protect their screen with a protector anyway? And seriously who the heck tries to bend their phone in half even if you're a rough user. Dumbness is taking over the people.
I own Honor 6X from about a month, I have about 10 hours SoT daily on my phone. With that kinda usage, I have 0 scratches so on my screen or back so far. And of course no freakin "bends" like it's a metal ruler lol.
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Absolutely..couldnt agree more..i never rely on such durability tests.who burn their phome, who bend the phone, who throw the phone like anything... After all its a phone and not the tracer bullet whcih you will fire..we buy with some hard earn money and we use it with caution...nobody likes to throw the phone as if its a peice of paper...even if you bend a phone worth 70K INR, it will bend no matter the material used for the phone...plastic, metal or iron...
lol..its a phone like any other electronic gadgets and should be protected the same way.
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The people who take JerryRigEverything's "durability tests" seriously are simply put, dumb. The videos he make are for pure entertainment purpose. Who lights up their phone's screen with a lighter? Are there still people who wouldn't protect their screen with a protector anyway? And seriously who the heck tries to bend their phone in half even if you're a rough user. Dumbness is taking over the people.
I own Honor 6X from about a month, I have about 10 hours SoT daily on my phone. With that kinda usage, I have 0 scratches so on my screen or back so far. And of course no freakin "bends" like it's a metal ruler lol.
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While I agree about your bending point, the "glass" they chose to use on the Honor 6x is TRASH. Of the 50 phones that were tested by JerryRigEverything, only the Honor 6x scratched at level 3/4. Every other phone scratched at level 6. This is pathetic. I've never used or felt the need to use a screen protector on any of my devices, but after seeing this test I went out and bought a tempered glass protector for my Honor 6x.
I've learned my lesson from years of using smartphones. I won't buy a phone without also buying a screen protector at the same time. I will have the screen protector applied to the phone within 30 minutes of taking it out of the box. Otherwise, you're just asking for trouble. Nowadays, you can get the really nice tempered glass screen protectors for pretty cheap. They actually offer some sort of protection to the screen. At least much more than the plastic film type of protectors do. The tempered glass might (and I have to say might) shatter during a drop but keep your actual screen from shattering. In my opinion, the hardness of the actual glass of the screen is irrelevant because I will never be touching or exposing the actual glass during the lifetime of my owning of this phone. Also, since this is a relatively inexpensive phone for what you get, I wouldn't expect the hardware to be as good as the high end smartphones.
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I've learned my lesson from years of using smartphones. I won't buy a phone without also buying a screen protector at the same time. I will have the screen protector applied to the phone within 30 minutes of taking it out of the box. Otherwise, you're just asking for trouble. Nowadays, you can get the really nice tempered glass screen protectors for pretty cheap. They actually offer some sort of protection to the screen. At least much more than the plastic film type of protectors do. The tempered glass might (and I have to say might) shatter during a drop but keep your actual screen from shattering. In my opinion, the hardness of the actual glass of the screen is irrelevant because I will never be touching or exposing the actual glass during the lifetime of my owning of this phone. Also, since this is a relatively inexpensive phone for what you get, I wouldn't expect the hardware to be as good as the high end smartphones.
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I would say that it's a combination of the screen protector and case that truly protect a phone. (Which is to say, that even the cheap plastic film screen protector can provide adequate protection of the case is built well.) On my Nexus 4, I used a Ringke case and the factory, plastic screen protector for over 2 years with no damage or major scratches to the screen protector.

Glass vs Plastic screen protector - impact resistance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
I almost never drop my phone, but wear it in the pocket all the time with tiny dust etc which might cause scratches. Aslo I hate the feeling of a plastic foil on the screen, its just not as smooth as a glas surface. That's why I use the tempered screen protector.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
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If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
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If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
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I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
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I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
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Well, at least for impact resistance alone, yeah the guy might be wrong. But the guy was probably just trying to sell his stuff from a fact sheet and might not know any better either lol.
On the other hand, one still needs to keep in mind that we're not only trying to protect the screen against impact here. Scratches are probably an even worse problem TBH in day to day use. As such, in the end its probably best that materials use offer a good balance of impact AND scratch protection, which IMHO, a "properly designed" Glass protector "should" be able to do in a more balanced way then a Plastic one.
Although, if impact protection is ALL you need your screen protector to be good at, then yeah I'd say a thick plastic sheet protector like the Rhinoshield (and it's OEM brethren the X-One and the Rastabanana) is probably top dog.

Question Screen coating quality has definitely improved over Pixel 6 pro!

I generally keep my phone's bare, without cases or screen protector. I had two Pixel 6 pros before. Both developed micro scratches and defects in oleophobic coating within a week of use. I haven't babied the pixel 7 pro by any means and there is absolutely no scratches or defects in the coating. I'm very happy that Google finally addressed this. Anyone else notice an improvement in the material quality of the screen. ?
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Haven't used a bare phone since the ORIGINAL Samsung Galaxy S!!!
My devices always wear case's... Sometimes screen protectors.
My Pixel 7 Pro had a screen protector being applied to it within 15 seconds of coming out of its box, it wasn't even turned on. Gorilla Glass Victus is well known for being great in terms of shatter resistance on drops, but is hopeless when it comes to scratches.
Phones too slippery not to have at least a thin case on for my liking, i do appreciate people like yourself who still raw dog that **** bareback. But yeah my screen has no protector on and its scratch free, i work on a building site also.
I started with case with my samsung Note 9 and have been using them ever since. I think that's when I started with the screen protectors too. I am partial to the matte ones because of how it reduces glare and hides fingerprints well.
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My Pixel 7 Pro had a screen protector being applied to it within 15 seconds of coming out of its box, it wasn't even turned on. Gorilla Glass Victus is well known for being great in terms of shatter resistance on drops, but is hopeless when it comes to scratches.
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The scratches I'm talking about wouldn't go deep enough to reach the glass. They're entirely in the coating.
I had to take the screen protector OFF of the Pixel 6 because of the poor fingerprint reader. It developed quite a few minor scratches. I'm definitely not leaving the Pixel 7 Pro naked since now the Pixel 7 Pro has no more fingerprint issues.
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The scratches I'm talking about wouldn't go deep enough to reach the glass. They're entirely in the coating.
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For all intents and purposes, it makes no difference whether it's on the coating or the glass. You can't get rid of them.
I have a love hate relationship with screen protectors which tend to make me use the phones naked. The glass screen protectors all manage to develop big bubbles in the top right corner after a month or so because my face is oily. I guess a little bit collects on the edge and lifts it up a bit or something. The plastic films tend to be a better in this regard but look cheap. Always have issue with the finger prints when a protector in on as well. Do any decent screen protectors exit for curved screens like the P7P?
I think we'll have to wait another few weeks to determine if this is really the case. I think that the stock oleophobic coating might just be a little longer lasting this time around. But we'll have to wait and see.
But also, I am kinda babying my P7P after I had noticed said surface micro scratches on my P6P shortly after my initial unboxing.
Side note, but I'm like you and keep my phones naked - so this stuff is important to me.
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Phones too slippery not to have at least a thin case on for my liking
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I cannot imagine the rationale behind making phones slippery, especially these huge phones that cannot be easily held and used by a person with an average hand size.
I enjoy the build quality of this phone and also think the coating is good. I generally use a case and find the aluminum camera bar looks kind of cool in the case cut out. I don't do screen protectors and have generally been ok over the years, even with drops .
The P7's & P6's have been extremely slippery with the whole shiny glass but it's funny that when the Pixel 4 XL had the matted back & painted side rails it was the best feel & grip to me yet reviewers complained that it wasn't premium because it wasn't shiny like the iphones of that year. Now the same reviews are saying too many fingerprints & how the phone should be matte like the iPhone this year
I'm just happy that Google is trying to walk their own path this year and I hope they continue that.
Yes, slippery phones is an unfortunate trend.
That's really the problem with phones these days, right? Someone big (ahem Apple, Samsung) starts a trend, be it good or bad, and everyone follows it. The physical form of the smart phone has become stagnant. They all look and feel the same.
I'd take frosted glass or polycarbonate back on a premium phone if they made it, but no company has the balls to do that now
I'm enjoying my Note 20 Ultra for over 2 years now, no screen protector, zero scratches, none. I hope my already ordered p7p is equally scratch resistant...
morphius88 said:
I have a love hate relationship with screen protectors which tend to make me use the phones naked. The glass screen protectors all manage to develop big bubbles in the top right corner after a month or so because my face is oily. I guess a little bit collects on the edge and lifts it up a bit or something. The plastic films tend to be a better in this regard but look cheap. Always have issue with the finger prints when a protector in on as well. Do any decent screen protectors exit for curved screens like the P7P?
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I get the cheapest ones available - hydrogen film tpu - and it works pretty well except at the curved areas where the film tends to raise up and dust will start to collect. For my next film replacement, I will trim off 10mm from the left/right sides so that the film will just stay flat.
sam2c said:
I generally keep my phone's bare, without cases or screen protector. I had two Pixel 6 pros before. Both developed micro scratches and defects in oleophobic coating within a week of use. I haven't babied the pixel 7 pro by any means and there is absolutely no scratches or defects in the coating. I'm very happy that Google finally addressed this. Anyone else notice an improvement in the material quality of the screen. ?
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yeah I notice the oleophobic coating is a bit better, no discernible fingerprints on the glass yet. I found all pixel devices up until Pixel 6 Pro had really bad coating. This one is much better, but still not perfect.
lyndenz said:
I get the cheapest ones available - hydrogen film tpu - and it works pretty well except at the curved areas where the film tends to raise up and dust will start to collect. For my next film replacement, I will trim off 10mm from the left/right sides so that the film will just stay flat.
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I have a protector on my phone which came with a £7 transparent cover I bought on Amazon UK, so pretty much the cheapest you can get. I put it on the minute I took the phone out the box nearly two weeks ago, expecting it to be temporary just to protect the screen until I got a decent one. But and it went on perfectly and there has been no raising on the edges near the curve. It actually looks and feels like the protectors that come on phones like Samsung. I'm not going to bother with another. And to make things even better the case came with two of them, so when this ends up too marked, I'll put the other one on.
manners400 said:
I enjoy the build quality of this phone and also think the coating is good. I generally use a case and find the aluminum camera bar looks kind of cool in the case cut out. I don't do screen protectors and have generally been ok over the years, even with drops .
The P7's & P6's have been extremely slippery with the whole shiny glass but it's funny that when the Pixel 4 XL had the matted back & painted side rails it was the best feel & grip to me yet reviewers complained that it wasn't premium because it wasn't shiny like the iphones of that year. Now the same reviews are saying too many fingerprints & how the phone should be matte like the iPhone this year
I'm just happy that Google is trying to walk their own path this year and I hope they continue that.
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Probably because all those reviewers are using the iphone as their daily and for some reason think everything should be compared to that phone. iPhones have so many negatives that people ignore in reviews but bash on if an android device has that same negative. Double standards.

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