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i thot gorrila screens were strong!

Sonone said:
i thot gorrila screens were strong!
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Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.

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Stronger than regular glass. And strong in some respects, but not others. They are most vulnerable to edge or corner pressure. And nothing is indestructible, and Gorilla Glass is far from unbreakable. Plenty of folks have broken GG on this and other devices.
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BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?

Sonone said:
BTW just a quick question is it true that sand and dust can scratch it since silica is harder than the glass composition or is it a very rare case?
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I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.

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I don't know the exact hardness of Gorilla Glass, but quartz (the most common form of silica) as well as other minerals falls higher on Mohs hardness scale than glass, and therefore has the ability to scratch it.
Also remember that GG is only claimed to be damage resistant and scratch resistant. Its not claimed to be impossible to scratch, by any stretch.
Many folks will be rough with their phones, have no protection, and never get a scratch on the screen. But a significant number of folks have posted on here to have gotten scratches on GG with normal usage. Although almost certainly in the minority or even uncommon, its something I would not consider a "very rare case".
If you are worried about it, but a protector on. Whether to use a protector is a very personal decision. I know lots of folks hate them, and go successfully without. But to me, its a very minimal (if any) change to appearance and feel if you use a quality one; and worth it for the peace of mind. The thing about scratches, is that once it happens it really can't be undone.
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ya i have ordered a matte screen guard would be coming soon... thanks for the advice mate!

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what the different with those screen protectors?

http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
I don't use them ...
farwish said:
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.
PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.
Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.
okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.
Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!
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Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16
s.m.knipe said:
No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
mrvirginia said:
guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.
I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?

Scratch Remover?

I've had my HOX for less than a month now, and it already has two non-deep but long and eye sore scratches. I was surprised because it was in a bag with only a towel and well isn't gorilla glass supposed to be stronger? this is making me really frustrated because AT&T will obviously not do anything about it, so is there any product that will remove them? i've seen some scratch removers but haven't seen anyone who has tried it in a gorilla glass phone. HELP PLEASE:crying:
Pricy lesson and use a protection next time.
I'm in the same boat as you. I have one nice scratch in my screen that i'm living with. I was romanced a little too hard about the tales of strong gorilla glass. Hmpf. One grit of sand is all it takes, and unfortunately, I think this is what happened to me. Kids sandbox...
Same here... One decent scratch that catches the eye when the phone is off or black screen. Never used screen protectors. As in my opinion the protector wil get much more scratched and it kills the nostalgia of having this f'in beautiful screen. And as far as keeping it mint for resale value, its a damn amazing phone, but its not a ferrari lol... The $200 I paid for it new will pay for itself over the next 12 months. After that they'll have 7 more flagship phones out And this one will probably become moms phone or my sons handheld gaming device
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Use a screen protector next time. They don't even look like they are on the phone and they save the screen from scratches. Only time you can tell that they are on is when the screen is off.
I have 3 scratches on my screen. I decided to get some protection so it would not get worse. Ghost Armor made the scratches disapear and looks great i highly recommend.
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I've had my HOX for less than a month now, and it already has two non-deep but long and eye sore scratches. I was surprised because it was in a bag with only a towel and well isn't gorilla glass supposed to be stronger? this is making me really frustrated because AT&T will obviously not do anything about it, so is there any product that will remove them? i've seen some scratch removers but haven't seen anyone who has tried it in a gorilla glass phone. HELP PLEASE:crying:
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Read this thread (HTC ONE X), they mentioned few methods for scratch removers.
Hope it helps you. Good luck
juandidug13 said:
I've had my HOX for less than a month now, and it already has two non-deep but long and eye sore scratches. I was surprised because it was in a bag with only a towel and well isn't gorilla glass supposed to be stronger? this is making me really frustrated because AT&T will obviously not do anything about it, so is there any product that will remove them? i've seen some scratch removers but haven't seen anyone who has tried it in a gorilla glass phone. HELP PLEASE:crying:
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Very thin scratches can be removed by rubbing toothpaste on the scratch with clean fingers. If it's any deeper than that, don't bother trying to get it out unless you want the glass to be thin enough to risk snapping it just by pressing too hard.
Don't try using toothpaste as a minor abrasives... It's too low of grit and will ruin your screen and just make more scratches. There are some good scratch remover kits I've used on mp3 players in the past, I suggest you give them a try.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
Very thin scratches can be removed by rubbing toothpaste on the scratch with clean fingers. If it's any deeper than that, don't bother trying to get it out unless you want the glass to be thin enough to risk snapping it just by pressing too hard.
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how exactly do you do this method? because i tried applying some but when i went to clean the screen it just rubbed off
after some research im actually thinking it's the oleophobic coating on the screen that got scratched and not the glass, im wondering if there's any way for that to be fixed. i refuse to use screen protectors because they just ruin the beauty of the screen, and get scratched even easier, but im surprised that with the huge amount of users using gorilla glass phones etc, no manufacturer has yet come to a solution that is guaranteed to work on touchscreen phones, and im afraid to use current scratch removers because they are not meant for touchscreens with coatings
juandidug13 said:
i refuse to use screen protectors because they just ruin the beauty of the screen, and get scratched even easier
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Scratches ruin the beauty of the screen a lot more than the protector, now don't they? High quality protectors are virtually invisible. Also, a high quality screen protector resists scratches very well. They also show fingerprints much less easily than the naked screen. You may have had experiences with cheap protectors, which are often much more visible, and get scratched almost instantly. I've used Skinomi and Bodyguardz, both of which I've had a devices for over a year, and they hold up really well. Superficial micro-scratches that only show in the right light, and only when the screen is not on.
Of course, using a protector or not is a very personal choice. But more so because of feel than anything else.
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im surprised that with the huge amount of users using gorilla glass phones etc, no manufacturer has yet come to a solution that is guaranteed to work on touchscreen phones, and im afraid to use current scratch removers because they are not meant for touchscreens with coatings
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Any method that truly removes scratches is going to have to abrade or buff the surface. For that reason, they are not good with coatings, as they will obviously abrade the coating off.
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juandidug13 said:
I was surprised because it was in a bag with only a towel and well isn't gorilla glass supposed to be stronger?
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Gorilla Glass is supposed to be difficult to break, and somewhat scratch resistant, but neither is impossible. All it takes is something that is harder than the GG to rub on it (possibly a grain of sand or grit on the towel or in the bag).
ECEXCURSION said:
Don't try using toothpaste as a minor abrasives... It's too low of grit and will ruin your screen and just make more scratches. There are some good scratch remover kits I've used on mp3 players in the past, I suggest you give them a try.
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Weird, I thought it was pretty fine grit but I guess not.
In which case, the best idea is to use a scratch remover kit. Or just use a screen protector like the Steinheil series that are apparently very good for optical quality, touch sensitivity, etc.
You'll just have to live with it... Like red point said, any scratch removal will just involve abrasive techniques or buffing.
I haven't tried it... But a company called dynaflow makes a liquid screen protector that may fill in microscopic scratches, look it up, read its info. Maybe it'll work for you.
vioalas said:
You'll just have to live with it... Like red point said, any scratch removal will just involve abrasive techniques or buffing.
I haven't tried it... But a company called dynaflow makes a liquid screen protector that may fill in microscopic scratches, look it up, read its info. Maybe it'll work for you.
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Sounds pretty dangerous..
Any ideal repair would require that the scratch is evenly filled with the same glass that was removed. If it was an oleophobic layer, then it would be even harder to tell what to fill it with.
Just slap an Armor Suit screen protector on it. You'll get your shine back. Did this when I had a couple light scratches on my xt910 and was good as new looking. Like sweeping it under the rug. I recommend Armor suit because if you put it in right there is ZERO orange peel affect and just looks shiny. Can't even tell I have one on.
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Get good screen guard and forget abt scratches and stuff ...
Screen guard does not ruin the beauty of screen in fact it retains it
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The scratches do not affect the viewing quality of the screen, which seems to support the notion that the damage is to the glass coating rather than the glass itself. Between a galaxy s 2, atrix 4g, and galaxy s3, the hox is by far the most vulnerable to scratches. Only time it's noticeable is in daylight though.
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
Sounds pretty dangerous..
Any ideal repair would require that the scratch is evenly filled with the same glass that was removed. If it was an oleophobic layer, then it would be even harder to tell what to fill it with.
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I think the idea of filling the crack is a pretty good one, and much less harmful than abrasive techniques. The filling does not have to be perfect, or the same material to be effective. True, you are not actually removing the scratch, but simply making it less visible, which is probably enough (and much less invasive).
I wish I knew what kind of material you could use but conceptually if it were possible, one would make a lot of money by inventing 'touch screen band aids' that would be applied like a screen protector, left on overnight and would repair minor surface scratches.
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I always wanted to know, why would one want to use a screen protector? Seriously, it is practically impossible to scratch any modern phone's screen by accident without use of special tools and excessive force.
The best screen protector is the material manufacturer used for the screen during production.
pure.by said:
I always wanted to know, why would one want to use a screen protector? Seriously, it is practically impossible to scratch any modern phone's screen by accident without use of special tools and excessive force.
The best screen protector is the material manufacturer used for the screen during production.
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haha. my thoughts exactly. Some people like to kick it old school, though.
Best screen protector? Gorilla Glass 3
jollywhitefoot said:
haha. my thoughts exactly. Some people like to kick it old school, though.
Best screen protector? Gorilla Glass 3
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Gorilla Glass uses great marketing, but their screens are far from scratch proof. These screens get scratched all the time - especially when placed face down on a rough surface or in a purse with keys. But the screen protectors offer an added layer of protection against shattering if the phone is dropped. Considering that it adds a nearly invisible layer of protection for about $15, it's kind of a no-brainer.
As for which is the best? I have no idea. Just avoid the cheap ones that come in 3-packs. They are nothing more than clear plastic that gets scratched and must be thrown away. Get something with self healing properties or tempered glass. But I've never understood why that's so popular these days. Covering scratch resistant glass with scratch resistant glass doesn't seem like a solution.

Glass vs Plastic screen protector - impact resistance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
I almost never drop my phone, but wear it in the pocket all the time with tiny dust etc which might cause scratches. Aslo I hate the feeling of a plastic foil on the screen, its just not as smooth as a glas surface. That's why I use the tempered screen protector.
nabbed said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUsTSk6xjjo&t=388s
According to this guy's tests, a plastic one is better if you want to prevent your screen cracking from impacts and fall damage.
The persistent rumor that the opposite is true doesn't even make sense to a scientist such as myself - glass is hard and brittle, and will transfer impact energy to the screen, while plastic is soft and will dissipate a lot of that energy.
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If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
eiraku said:
If plastic meaning those THICC Rhinoshield types, I can actually concur with this. Unfortunately, scratch resistance wise (and even puncture resistance), seems plastic doesn't do as well as glass owing to the much lower hardness... you cant make plastic 6H no matter how hard (ehem) you try.
Source, I've been using Rhinoshield-alike protectors for quite a while, with my previous phones and now with the OP6 - though I recently moved on to a matte TGSP (well, technically a TGSP with a matte film bonded to it looks like).
As for thin plastic protectors, even the vinyl types, I'm pretty sure they're too thin to actually absorb anything TBH, but I can be wrong. Note that the guy in the video did say "plastic of equivalent thickness to a glass protector" being more resistant to impact.
On the flip side however, did you also factor in the dispersion of force when a glass protector breaks apart? That alone might already save the real stuff underneath from suffering the same fate under more realistic conditions (drops, minor impact), considering people don't usually go through the "huge-metal-ball-to-screen" thing in real life all that often.
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I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
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I agree with what you said. All of these factors are important. I haven't done the tests myself, but when I saw the video, it reminded me of a sales rep at a Verizon store trying to sell me a glass screen protector over the plastic one, trying to convince me that glass is better than plastic for impact resistance. It didn't make sense at the time, and this video seems to confirm my initial gut reaction.
Hence the thread.
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Well, at least for impact resistance alone, yeah the guy might be wrong. But the guy was probably just trying to sell his stuff from a fact sheet and might not know any better either lol.
On the other hand, one still needs to keep in mind that we're not only trying to protect the screen against impact here. Scratches are probably an even worse problem TBH in day to day use. As such, in the end its probably best that materials use offer a good balance of impact AND scratch protection, which IMHO, a "properly designed" Glass protector "should" be able to do in a more balanced way then a Plastic one.
Although, if impact protection is ALL you need your screen protector to be good at, then yeah I'd say a thick plastic sheet protector like the Rhinoshield (and it's OEM brethren the X-One and the Rastabanana) is probably top dog.

Accessories Does the X3 Pro need a tempered glass?

I kinda want to get mine removed cuz the fit is weird (sides are not fully covered) and just use it as it is. Is it fine or will it get easily scratched?
Superbia_ said:
I kinda want to get mine removed cuz the fit is weird (sides are not fully covered) and just use it as it is. Is it fine or will it get easily scratched?
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gorilla glass is an extremely shatter/scratch resistant glass.... I've had htc e8, redmi 5+ fell from at least 1m, they were still good, for my xiaomi phones i usually use the included case for added protection.... you can also use flip cases which will protect the whole phone... there are very nice flip/wallet cases for pocox3...
anyway...here's a picture of my screen after 4-5 months of usage without any screen protector.. no scratches yet, ignore the dust... your experience may vary xD
Anyone else using phone without protection glass, is it smooth without it ?
Factory protection is plastic, if I remember correctly. It gives pretty bad feel. Uncovered screen is smooth and nice to touch.
I just use the ringke fusionx camo case, no tempered glass. Tempered glass is kind of gimmicky, I never would use a cheapo $2 to $5 screen protection. As I paid for gorilla glass 6 and also love it's clarity and feel which no cheap tempered glass can provide me. Anyways, gorilla glass is quite tough and I use my phone carefully like a gentleman! I even use the ringke camp case because I like its look, and also it is military grade certified. Moreover, we use our phone for 2-5years only, after that is just a sandwich! So, why not use it in its true glory!
is up to personal preference to get protector or not
i use hydrogel protector, i have a bulky casing already so yea...
Thanks for the input, I removed my tempered glass now and it looks and feels better. Another question is how do you guys clean your screen? Do you guys use alcohol/water?
Never use alcohol to clean phone lcd screens, it can damage oleophobic coating.
And yes i agree the factory screen protector that comes with this phone is utter trash, remove it ASAP. Phone feels much better without it, both in terms of display quality and just general touch feel. If this is really Gorilla Glass then you shouldn't worry too much about scratching it. (i wouldn't trust Xiaomi on anything though lol)
k3lcior said:
Never use alcohol to clean phone lcd screens, it can damage oleophobic coating.
And yes i agree the factory screen protector that comes with this phone is utter trash, remove it ASAP. Phone feels much better without it, both in terms of display quality and just general touch feel. If this is really Gorilla Glass then you shouldn't worry too much about scratching it. (i wouldn't trust Xiaomi on anything though lol)
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I see, so just water then?
I also do not use protective glass. I downloaded the foil right after I bought the phone. I have only the case on.
Superbia_ said:
Thanks for the input, I removed my tempered glass now and it looks and feels better. Another question is how do you guys clean your screen? Do you guys use alcohol/water?
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I use semen... Just kidding
Rubbing with a damp microfiber cloth works fine for me and renders the screen shining!
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I use semen... Just kidding
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Dude, I am glad you are not a comedian. Please keep replies like these to yourself. You are making my breakfast go in reverse.
No wonder forum etiquette went to **** in here...
Tomo123 said:
Dude, I am glad you are not a comedian. Please keep replies like these to yourself. You are making my breakfast go in reverse.
No wonder forum etiquette went to **** in here...
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Thank god it doesn't make your semen go in reverse.
And it does yours? Good for you!
Now, let's get bact to the topic at hand, or you feel too childish to let this one go?
Also, to be on track... yes, every phone should have a tempered glass protection. Why? Well you can scratch any type of glass, be it with keys, a knife or any other piece of one's EDC carry stuff. I'd rather tempered glass gets scratched, instead of phone screen. Common sense, really. Using something that costs 2$ to protect something costing near 300$...
the question is absurd: Of course every mobile that is in use needs a display protection ...
I dont use one (and yes i removed the factory protection aswell) for over a year now and there isnt a one scratch on a screen. And mind you i use it mostly for road bike navigation outdoors - public roads, woods, mud and so on it's not just laying on a desk. You have top notch Gorilla Glass protection and it works, why replace it with cheap poor quality $2 piece of plastic with poor feel which also distorts the screen colors and possibly touch inputs?
But whatever floats your boat.
For me, the only advantage of a screen protector is that I can replace it within a few minutes once the oleophobic coating is gone. I find it disgusting to constantly have a greasy film on the glass. I use book cases with every phone, so scratching the display can actually be almost ruled out
Same here: flip case with screen protector.... i donĀ“t use cheap quality rather the opposite and - thats most interesting for me - mat protection without refections... positive side effect: if you want to sell the device later, it has no scratches if you had been careful For me it would be horrible if there was a scratch on the screen...

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