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Scratches on screen.

Anybody have any methods for taking care of scratches on the tb screen? I know somebody the other day that the tb uses a type of gorilla glass.. I was just wondering if there was a way to polish it out or anything along those lines, I really hate to use the screen protectors.
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I haven't seen anything yet that will reliably "fill the gap" that results from scratches. If indeed the glass is Gorilla Glass, it certainly seems to be scratch prone. There is a nice, long thread here titled something like "I tried to scratch my TB with keys". Perhaps you may find something useful in there (though I think half the posts were flames, lol)

This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.

dalrym05 said:
This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.
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This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.

I use a screen protector and while the screen protector has scratches all over it, the edges (The screen that the protector doesn't cover) have absolutely nothing on them. You can see scratches going from the protector and then should continue on to the screen but they just don't. At least for me, this screen is pretty solid.
Also, I use my kickstand everyday for videos, youtube, etc. and have no flaking what so ever. I have owned the phone since the day of launch and it still looks like new.

nmyeti said:
This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.
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I had the flaking issue on the kickstand too.. I just scraped all the coating off with the round part of a paper clip. Now it's not a problem anymore and I think it looks better this way. Also the Google logo does not come off with the coating it's etched into the metal. So simple solution to this problem...

What's up with this flaking nonsense? My kickstand looks fine :|

It is poly-silica combo it will scratch. If you don't like screen protectors then I guess your gonna have scratches. Keep in mind if you never turn it on it will never break.
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nmyeti said:
This screen sucks, if it is gorilla glass it has something applied to the top of it because it scratches so easily. My DINC and Fascinate has much more durable screens. Between the screen and the kickstand flaking, this phone is lacking in durability.
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I had the flaking issue on the kickstand too.. I just scraped all the coating off with the round part of a paper clip. Now it's not a problem anymore and I think it looks better this way. Also the Google logo does not come off with the coating it's etched into the metal. So simple solution to this problem...

sammael1069 said:
Keep in mind if you never turn it on it will never break.
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LOL! This seriously made me laugh!

dalrym05 said:
This is the first touch screen phone ever that you will probably do need a screen protector for. Problem is I hate screen protectors and somehow this "gorilla glass" seems more like plastic to me. Especially after using some heavy cut diamond glaze compound made by meguiars my huge scratch in the screen in ggone. Makes me think its some kind of polycarbinate and not what everyone thinks its is. I finished up with a standard car wax and haven't gotten a scratch sense. This may sound stupid but I was despereate and trying everything and that's what worked.
My scratch was long and noticible but not that deep so don't expect miracles.
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so did you use a diamond glaze compound by meguiars, AND a standard car wax ? or just standard car wax?
thanks for the replies

ElectroFetish said:
...I really hate to use the screen protectors.
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Use the Ultra Crystal here http://www.sgpstore.com/cell-phone/...-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html and you'll never know it's on unless you look too closely.
Never used a screen protector with my Dinc and never had a scratch. Used the Steinheil for years with my BlackBerrys. After reading about the issues folks were having with their Tbolt screens scratching, I put this protector on a month or so ago, and don't even notice it. I don't use a case.

I never use a case because I always holster my TB. But after wiping my phone off nightly I do see scratches. I'm upset with this. Thanks for link for ultra crystal

how deep are the scrathes? i baby my phones, like BABY since i have OCD, so i have yet to get my first scratch.

+1 on the polycarb suspicion. My screen picked up a scratch somehwere, even though I baby it. I attempted to polish it out with a fine cut polish. While it did lighten, I can see very subtle evidence of my polishing. There appears to be a difference in the texture of the glass where I polished, almost as if I removed a coating.
I have since installed SGP Ultra Crystal which I really like. Never needed protector with my BB Storm..two years of heavy torture and not a single minute scratch. Go figure. I also have the kickstand flaking. I've really treated this TBolt like a piece of delicate china and its falling apart lol.

My screen and kickstand both look like **** now. I went from launch of D1 until TB launch with my D1 in the SAME POCKETS at the SAME JOB, and it had no scratches... The only blemish on it was the Gold paint on the Camera button came off...
Gorilla glass... PFFT... more like Gorilla ass!!!!

Awesome, thanks for the endorsement!

Anyone using a Zagg Screen Protector?

Just thought I'd get some opinions. I heard these are quite difficult to install because you have to spray the protector and then apply it wet to your device.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-sensation-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php

there are many brands out there that makes this kind of protector. IMO zagg is the worst because it has the most "orange peel" texture. ALmost all brands I tried is better than zagg. sgp is one of the easiest to install because it sticks easier.
try sgpstore, bestskinever, phantomskinz, and many many more

How is bodyguardz?

MattMJB0188 said:
Just thought I'd get some opinions. I heard these are quite difficult to install because you have to spray the protector and then apply it wet to your device.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-sensation-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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i rocked full protection on my first evo, and applied it myself; having said that i can assure you that if you have all ten of your fingers, can follow directions, and are able to count per the instructions its not hard to install. the application of the liquid you receive helps so that the protector doesn't get stuck were you apply; it gives you wiggle room to move it around.

My brother has the invisible shield for his galaxy s 4G, and I love it!!! It is very thick but I don't notice it affecting the screen. It's amazingly efficient and it doesn't have any bubbles at all.
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c19932 said:
there are many brands out there that makes this kind of protector. IMO zagg is the worst because it has the most "orange peel" texture. ALmost all brands I tried is better than zagg. sgp is one of the easiest to install because it sticks easier.
try sgpstore, bestskinever, phantomskinz, and many many more
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well if its the worst at how it feels, it is certainly the best in protection

I use clear-coat and it works awesome. I've tried zagg and I found it to be too rubbery and also get a yellowish tint after a while
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mikeyrave said:
well if its the worst at how it feels, it is certainly the best in protection
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Is there a way to measure the level of protection a screen protector offers compared to another? My friend uses a Zagg on his iPhone 4 and I use a cheap $1 screen protector from eBay for my Sensation and frankly, I can't even comprehend the point of spending so much on what is basically a piece of plastic when there is no proof that it offers better protection.

lianw said:
Is there a way to measure the level of protection a screen protector offers compared to another? My friend uses a Zagg on his iPhone 4 and I use a cheap $1 screen protector from eBay for my Sensation and frankly, I can't even comprehend the point of spending so much on what is basically a piece of plastic when there is no proof that it offers better protection.
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very true but how long is your $1 protector gonna hold up to surface irritation from keys, lighters, loose change, etc... although i haven't tested any other protectors i can say that the zagg shield had a way of "healing" itself

lianw said:
Is there a way to measure the level of protection a screen protector offers compared to another? My friend uses a Zagg on his iPhone 4 and I use a cheap $1 screen protector from eBay for my Sensation and frankly, I can't even comprehend the point of spending so much on what is basically a piece of plastic when there is no proof that it offers better protection.
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All of these type of screen protectors (zagg, bodyguardz, skinomi) offer better protection because they don't use plastic. You can see all there videos of phones with them on not getting scratched by keys and other objects. The cheap plastic ones are good for most people but they get scratched and need to be replaced after a while.
I use skinomi because it covers my whole phone from scratches and my screen along with no fingerprints. Cheaper than zagg, bodyguardz, and the others. Only $15 to protect my whole phone and never need to replace.

I've been using the absolute cheapest screen protectors (although I exclusively use ones that have no surface friction on the outer side). I've even driven around in the Sahara desert with a couple of devices (PSP, iPod, phone) using said cheap protectors just dangling around in a bag (therefore, lots of contact at more than ridiculous temperatures) and they've never failed me. In fact, my PSP's $2 screen protector from April 2005 is still on the device and still flawless.
I understand that Zagg offers peace of mind because of its clever marketing, website design and fancy application techniques, but one really should look objectively at what screen protectors really are: Thin sheets of plastic.
Edit: I use the term plastic loosely here since they are all variants of synthetic polymers.

Again, the difference is they don't scratch like the cheap plastic ones, and you can't protect the rest of your phone. For the Sensation that is what concerns me the most since it is much easier scratched than the screen and I would not want a bulky case. If that is worth an extra $10 to you, then get it.

Honest question:
Whats the point of screen protectors for this phone? From what I've read, the Sensation has the same Gorilla glass as my HD2, which in my experience doesn't scratch in most circumstances. Anything that would scratch the screen probably would also get through any of the protectors I've worked with on other devices.
Don't have a Sensation yet, but plan on upgrading after month-end bills.

daemonfly said:
Honest question:
Whats the point of screen protectors for this phone? From what I've read, the Sensation has the same Gorilla glass as my HD2, which in my experience doesn't scratch in most circumstances. Anything that would scratch the screen probably would also get through any of the protectors I've worked with on other devices.
Don't have a Sensation yet, but plan on upgrading after month-end bills.
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I am under this impression too (that Sensation has gorilla glass) and didn't get screen protector for it yet.

It doesn't have gorrila glass.
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abtexas83 said:
It doesn't have gorrila glass.
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Everything I've read says it does.
http://www.google.com/search?q="HTC+sensation"+"gorilla+glass"
Although it seems I was mistaken or mis-remembering about the HD2 having it. Not GG, but just an extremely scratch-resistant display. Still, since I bought it at US release, it doesn't have a single scratch.

abtexas83 said:
It doesn't have gorrila glass.
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You are mistaken. Check Corning's site. They list the Sensation, and it's very doubtful they would do that if untrue.
Another post said screen protectors aren't needed. Also untrue if you definitely want to avoid scratches. Just Google "gorilla glass scratch", or search these forums. You'll find lots of users with scratched glass who have no idea how it happened. Gorilla Glass is not scratch proof. Period.
Replacement screens are available, so you can just go bare and replace the screen as needed, or use a SP to prevent scratches, or add one later if you get scratches to cover them.

Yeah I spoke with a Samsung rep and he said that gorilla glass can still get surface scratches. It's just really resistant against deeper scratches.
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MattMJB0188 said:
Just thought I'd get some opinions. I heard these are quite difficult to install because you have to spray the protector and then apply it wet to your device.
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-sensation-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
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ZAGG!? Honestly Im a long time user Ive used their screen protectors on several phones and full body on a couple. (one being the G1 that was a horrible idea cause of the phones construction).
Zagg isnt really cheap I mean its $20 bucks by me (i go to Woodfield mall, schaumburg) for JUST the screen protector. But thats INSTALLED by them "professionally" which really depends on the kid doing it but they usually do a pretty good job. They last a pretty good time for the average user, I average 4 months before it starts to get a little rough around the edges and small scratchs appear and hit gets harder to clean. Yeah they do scratch.. Ive done the key test. Your phones safe thats what they advertise but the protector can get damaged.
You cant beat it though for free you can get another to apply yourself or for $5 they'll do it for you right at the kiosk in the mall by me. Never had a scratch using their product so I can say it does its job. One think though they protector does take a little getting used too, just a different texture. All in all I recommend it if you have them install it, unless you have some insane patience, a still hand, and arent afraid to get your device wet (they get them pretty damn wet when they install too).

I use Zagg on all my phones and Tablet. The nice thing about it is that there are less finger print parks, cleans easy, and protects your screen and phone body. Also they have a oftentimes warranty. I don't know about where you live, but I have them installed by Zagg Invisible shield in the mall. I usually get a new one put on every 3-4 months. Also when you sell the phone and put a new shield on it; the phone still looks brand new. I paid $35 for the shield and installation. You get your money back and more when you sell it.

[Q] OK with no screen protector or case?

I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
EDIT: bought a case-mate pop case in white/gray. Very happy with case and still no screen protector.

seano666 said:
I've had my Infuse for 4-5 days and really love the design and all the cool stuff here on xda (as usual). Does Gorilla Glass mean that I don't need a screen protector? I've never been a fan of them. Also, I'm pretty gentle with my phones and would like to keep the stock look with no outer case. What do you guys think, am I flirting with disaster?
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The glass is extremely hard. There are videos of people online taking razor blades to it. The plastic on the outside, however, will be more prone to scratches. It's really up to you, but I've had mine for a few weeks, and there are no visible signs of use. I don't baby my phones, but I also am not too tough on them.
There's my 2¢. I hope it helps.

I like using my phone naked because I haven't found any screen protectors that I really like yet, and I like the device without a case. That being said, I bought the moshi screen protector and casemate pop case, mostly for when I am going to be somewhere or doing something that could put my phone in danger...like when I'm drinking and prone to dropping my phone haha. Gorilla glass is scratch resistant, not scratch proof, so it's a good idea to have a screen protector in some situations.
The moshi screen protector is a tad expensive, but I think it's totally worth it for high risk situations. You can take it off and reuse it as many times as you want, and it's really easy to do so. That allows me to put it on quick when I need it, and take it off when I know it's safe. I don't like using it day to day because I love the screen on this phone, and the matte finish on the moshi makes it a bit pixilated. However, it's a life saver in many situations, and I can stand it being on there for the peace of mind while I'm doing something that requires it.
And it's always a good idea to have a case on hand just for rugged situations, and I find the pop to be very nice. It provides a ton of protection in not so huge of a package. While it's not as rugged as an otterbox or ballistic case, my phone has taken quite a few spills from 4+ feet off the ground in my case, and it still fits in my pockets just fine. Another good case that I would recommend is the body glove mirage case. It's a rubbery tpu case that is very pocketable and also provides a lot of protection. All of the accessories I've mentioned can be found at At&t stores, but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, as they mark them up a bit.
Hope I helped!
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I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?

my plastic is all in perfect shape, but my screen has a couple of scratches on it
i try to keep it nice, but it's not easy with this big of a screen..

I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?

seano666 said:
I'll take a look at those cases, thanks! I don't do anything that drops my phone from 4+ feet off the ground, I'd have a freaking heart attack!
What are you doing with your phone up that high?
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I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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welchertc said:
I'm 6'2", 4 feet off the ground is standard usage height for me while I'm standing. Haha. And gorilla glass can be scratched, I have a micro scratch on my screen from throwing my keys in my pocket.
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Oh ok, that makes sense. I think I'm still going to go bare for now, I'm pretty anal about treating it right. Thanks for the advice!

seano666 said:
I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable

docodine said:
it likely rubbed against the keys in my pocket, doesn't bother me though. just letting you know that gorilla glass is not invulnerable
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We must have different glass or something for our screens. I took a razorblade to my old nexus one which was sporting gorilla glass, and there was no visible sign that anything had even happened to it. There are also videos of people online going absolutely nuts on their screens with the same results.

seano666 said:
I didn't think you could scratch the Gorilla Glass unless under extreme punishment, what did you do to scratch it?
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just need something harder than gorilla glass to scratch it. a diamond or maybe some other jewels will easily scratch as well as concrete and maybe some hard steels. keys or gold aren't likely to scratch but some key rings are made from a hard spring steel and might scrach. there is also a coating of some type on the glass that may show scratches.
the plastic definately needs protection. it is break resistant but it is way soft and the lame shiny coating can scratch off.

Scratched my screen with something. Always in its own pocket. Get a screen protector.
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For myself I don't use a screen protector (had the phone since it came out). The Infuse's screen behaves just like my ole iphone4, if not better.
As others have said, the side chrome plastic will scratch easily so a case is warranted.

I actually have never dropped my phone or anything and I have two micro scratches. Samsung is willing to fix it for free the problem is you have to send them the phone and be without one for 7 days.

I work in construction, I use the Ballistics case and a screen protector on the phone, I dropped it from 10ft off a ladder onto concrete, no damage to phone or case. Best money I ever spent

No screen protector or case on my Infuse, and it's been that way since I bought it two months ago. I have one tiny, tiny scratch on the far left side of the front, but it's so far over that it isn't actually on the screen. I have no idea how it got there, I think there must have been a tiny rock or something in my pocket at one point the scratched it. Who knows. My phone has unfortunately been dropped maybe 5 times, and this never caused any damage. I think your phone will be just fine naked.

I decided to get the Case-Mate Pop case. It makes my phone look like a stormtrooper! Still no screen protector tho.
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I'm using a body glove, no screen protector.
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Hi guys im debating weather to put a screen protector on this baby or not, just got her yesterday. Has anyone experienced scratches? Also would someone recommend a good screen protector other than Zagg or invisishield. I'm done with those types. Also I got a casemate today but it kinda sucks, gonna return it tomorrow. Any recommendations on cases? Thanks.

I've heard from a few people on here that they've experienced scratches. I think if you are really careful you can get away with it. Some of the better cases have a lip which will protect it from falling flat on the screen.
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what the different with those screen protectors?

http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
2.Ultra oleophobic
which one is batter?
thanks

I don't use them ...
farwish said:
http://www.spigen.com/new-product/spigen-sgp-htc-one-x-screen-protector-steinheil-ultra-series.html
Two choice,
1.Ultra Fine
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which one is batter?
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I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter

I get where you're coming from Peter but just because you don't want screen protectors doesn't mean you shouldn't try and contribute to someone who does. My Captivate had gorilla glass and it has plenty of scratches just because of grit. It happens, no matter what.
However, Ultra Fine is just going to be super clear, and Ultra Oleophobic will do it's best to keep finger prints from showing/building up.

PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
Peter
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I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin

grinmaul said:
I used to use screen protectors all the time until my nexus one, had that phone for 2 years with plenty of abuse, including at least 4 good drops, one in a cement underground parking floor with a small kick and slide for good measure, my hart stooped on that one! still not a scratch on that phone.
so i did not get one for my galaxy nexus, dropped it once while kneeling on the flatbed of a tow truck, not a very far drop at all, and got 1 nasty looking scratch and 3 minor ones! ruined my day, week even i still look at it and get sad.
i have no idea what glass is in the galaxy nexus, but to me it was very easy to scratch, if i can find a screen protector for the xl that is not annoying to look at i will probable start using one.
just sayin
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ditto here. i noticed the other day i had a tiny scratch up near the ear piece of my GNex. mine has never been dropped so not sure where i got it from but it was the first phone i went completely naked with. won't make that mistake again. def getting a screen protector and most likely the SGP Oleo.

PeterHTC said:
I don't use screen protectors on any phone with gorilla glass. It's basically unnecessary. It's virtually impossible to scratch the screen unless you really make the effort.
Remember, it's glass. Why not take a fork and try your best to scratch a window made of glass. It can't be done.
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Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.

nabbed said:
Any minute particle of sand will scratch gorilla glass without exception.
You are 1) being irresponsible, 2) promoting those irresponsible ideas to others.
Gorilla glass is not scratch proof by any means. It has barely higher hardness compared to normal borosilicate glass, and it's far softer than sand.
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Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy. Many people don't believe in screen protectors. I live in sandy Florida and I've been just fine. My friend on the other hand scars his screens.

vioalas said:
Calling someone irresponsible is a bit harsh, no? It's a difference in philosophy.
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True, its all a matter of personal choice. There is a tiny change in the feel when you use a screen protector, and some don't like it. If a person chooses not to use a screen protector, and willing to live with scratches (if they do occur) then that's totally up to them. If someone scratches the screen, and claims the GG as "defective", then I suppose that is irresponsible (as there is not advertised guarantee against scratches).
That said, GG is far from impossible to scratch. Its intended to be scratch resistant, but can still be scratched (and even cracked). Coming from another device with GG, I can tell you that I have seen many cases of people that got scratches after normal use, and no obvious instances of abuse, drops, etc. And if you remember when the iPhone first came out with GG, there were also plenty of instances of people getting scratches almost immediately after release. On the other hand, plenty of people have had good luck with no scratches on GG, even after serious drops, etc. A bit of luck is certainly at play. But if you don't use a screen protector, and end up with a scratch, you can't easily undo it. IMO, its better to use a protector, and not have to worry about such regret.
A good quality screen protector has very minimal change in feel (although there is a very slight difference) no change in look, and will also attract fingerprints and smudges a bit less than the "naked" screen. Cheap ones are not worthwhile, and often look and feel much worse, and can start peeling off easily. Some people that are against protectors, may be due to experience with a cheap one. Bodguardz and Skinomi are quality ones that I have used, and there are plenty of other good ones.

Hey guys, this topic was started to answer a mans question about the difference between two types of screen protectors not borosilicate and gorilla glass. I feel that this topic should be A. closed if nothing good is to be added, or B. put back on topic for the benefit of OP.

okay, i'll knock his question out really quick...
the Ultra Fine (Anti-fingerprint) is a matte type of screen protector. because it is matte, it's going to degrade the colors a little bit. they won't be as vibrant as without this particular protector.
the Ultra Oleo is a clear screen protector. approx 100% of the colors will still come through as if you didn't have this one on. it's made to be resistant to fingerprints, though the Ultra Fine is going to do a far better job of keeping fingerprints off.
so, you have to ask yourself this...
do you mind losing some of the pop from the colors to keep fingerprints off of your screen, or would you rather see your display like there was nothing on it but have more visible fingerprints?
i always go with the clear ones. i had a matte protector on an old iPhone (3G?) and didn't like it. haven't had a matte one since.

Its a bit hidden, but it says on the product webpage FAQs:
What are the differences between the Steinheil Ultra Fine and Ultra Oleophobic Screen Protectors?
All of our screen protectors are Japanese made, enhanced optical hard films. The Ultra Oleophobic screen protectors is a clear type where it absolutely doesn't affect the screen image quality. Ultra Oleophobic has an oil resistant coating to resist oil and other contaminants. Ultra Fine screen protector is matte type hard film which resists against fingerprints and smudges, but it is less clear compared to other Steinheil screen protectors.
So it seems the main difference is that the Oleophobic seems to be the "regular flavor", while Ultra Fine has a matte finish (and $2 more). What is "best" for matte versus regular finish is typically a matter of preference. Matte tends to give less glare (and might be helpful outdoors in sunlight) but tend to be less clear, and may have a tackier feel or even textured feel (not sure if the different feel is true for this particular brand). Hopefully somebody with specific experience with this brand can give an opinion.
Some people (like the previous reply) don't like matte; while I've seen others that seek it out.

Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25084817&postcount=69
there ya go vioalas, that's the skinomi protector, and it's a wet app so it's just like, the best fit possible. Hope that helped!

vioalas said:
Question about these screen protectors, if anybody has used them, can you post a picture? All the protectors I've seen for the One X so far look bad because of the way the screen is shaped, they curl up on the edges.
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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...

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I can't do a pic (at work) but I have only used the Ultra Oleophobic on my past two devices, and it is the closest thing to the feeling of the glass out there. There is still a tiny bit of drag that isn't present on the screen, but really is barely noticeable.
Because these are dry application protectors, they can't go all the way to the lateral edges of the One X's screen, apparently it has a slight taper/roll and the SP would lift. My Galaxy Nexus (with the contoured screen) leaves about 2mm all the way around, and that was very clear in SGP's pics on their website. Their pics for the one X show less of a gap and the gap is mostly on the sides, so I think it will look better than it does on the Galaxy Nexus...
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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.

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thanks for input on the actual fit with dry protectors. i thought the glass was flat on the One X if true, the only way to get a complete fit would be wet applications. guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.

Any other places to get these now that fit.. Dry and not $16

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No, I think it is just the gradual roll the edges of the screen do to meet the plastic. the screen itself is flat, and the roll appears to only be on the left and right sides. I think even wet application ones would have trouble with it... look at some of the pics that depict the phone in profile; the part of the screen glass that protrudes above the plastic (best noticed in the white model) seems to have a radius (or "roll") to it.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.

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guess i'll finally have to use a wet application.
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The wet apply protectors are not as scary as they would seem. Your lightly spray the application fluid onto the protector, and its really not enough to penetrate into any cracks. And even if it does, its not enough to short circuit anything. Have the device powered off, and let it dry for the recommended time, and you will be fine.
I used dry apply protectors for my first couple smartphone, as I was also a bit wary of the wet apply method. But when I finally went the wet apply method, I found it easier to install. The wet method give you some time to get the protector perfectly in place before the protector adheres.
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ahh gotcha. well so far it sounds like the skinomi is the way to go. i was never a fan of that orange peel effect but if that's the best then that's what i'll have to go with.
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I have a Skinomi installed on my Flyer tablet, and am quite pleased with it. its very smooth with no noticeable orange peel effect.

I guess I'll do the wet application. Would you guys trust the radioshacks/bestbuys that offer to apply it for you?

The Screen guards for Note 8.0

The Note 8.0 doesn't come with anything like a Gorilla Glass. So I guess, a ScreenGuard would be pretty important, especially for Guys who carry the 8.0 everywhere. So post your experiences, recommendations here for everyone to see.
P.S. The Note 8.0 is yet to be launched in my country(India), but eBay is already full with 2-3 dozen listings for Scratch guards ranging anywhere between 5-20 USD!!
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The Note 8.0 doesn't come with anything like a Gorilla Glass. So I guess, a ScreenGuard would be pretty important, especially for Guys who carry the 8.0 everywhere. So post your experiences, recommendations here for everyone to see.
P.S. The Note 8.0 is yet to be launched in my country(India), but eBay is already full with 2-3 dozen listings for Scratch guards ranging anywhere between 5-20 USD!!
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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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Thats good to know. Though I wonder why Samsung would choose to do so?
Even if doesn't want to pay royalties to Corning for the Gorilla Glass, at least it could write "scratch resistant glass" in its specs.
Would certainly improve our impression of the build quality of the Note8.

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While Samsung doesnt explicitly advertise it, there is certainly some sort of treated glass on the Note 8. The glass is comparable to the glass on the Note 2 both in thicknesses and hardness. I tested on one of the bank's test units and it can certainly take abuse, even so far as resisting scratches from coarse granite.
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That really is bizarre that Samsung doesn't seem to mention anything about the quality of the glass--that seems like a big oversight on their part! It is good to hear your first-hand experience though--that is encouraging!
Perhaps at some point you or others could give a more detailed analysis of the glass quality, specific abuse it can withstand, etc.?

Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
Many people prefer the feel of going bareback with no protection, which is understandable. And its certainly a matter of preference. But its a simple fact that once you do scratch it, it really can't be undone. So if you are worried about scratches, better to protect it now, and not have to regret it later.
As far as what protector to buy, my recommendation would be to avoid the cheap ones. They tend to scratch easily, attract fingerprints, and you will be lucky to get them to last a couple months. Get a quality one in the $20 US range, as these are typically very difficult to scratch, actually attract less fingerprints and grime than the bare screen, and last a long time. I've had good quality protectors on my phone and my old tablet, that have been on for a year of more, and still look great. So in terms of durability and sheer quality, buying a good quality protector really pays off. Also, the wet apply type is much easier to install than dry.
Not sure what brands are available in the OPs home country. But I've had good luck with Skinomi and Zagg, but there are other high quality brands, as well.

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Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
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+1 to your opinion. Have seen some Gorilla glasses scratched.
Regards to applying, I would actually from a brick-and-mortar mobile shops, those guys are real experts at applying these.
Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable? so as to not deteriorate the experience much
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Even Gorilla Glass can be scratched from normal usage (as numerous reports by XDA users on various devices will attest). So don't take for granted that treated glass or GG makes your screen impossible to scratch.
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Well said!
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Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable?
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I'm wondering about these questions too.

agambhandari said:
Regards to applying, I would actually from a brick-and-mortar mobile shops, those guys are real experts at applying these.
Also, can anybody tell me the effect of the screen guard on the S-pen experience. Glossy or Matte. Which one would be preferrable?
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The wet apply screen protectors are pretty forgiving, and easy to apply. But having a pro do it is not a bad idea, if you are uncomfortable trying. If they mess it up, they typically just take it off and try again with a new protector (at no charge to you). Obviously not an option, if you do it yourself.
Can't comment personally on matte protectors. But some folks over at the HTC Flyer forum (my old tablet, that also has pen support) seemed to like the matte protectors, as the slightly textured surface felt a bit more like writing on paper. Using the pen on the glossy or non-matte variety is very similar to how it feels on the bare screen.
Matte protectors also cut down on glare. But they tend to give a "hazy" look to the screen that I find unacceptable.

redpoint73 said:
The wet apply screen protectors are pretty forgiving, and easy to apply. But having a pro do it is not a bad idea, if you are uncomfortable trying. If they mess it up, they typically just take it off and try again with a new protector (at no charge to you). Obviously not an option, if you do it yourself.
Can't comment personally on matte protectors. But some folks over at the HTC Flyer forum (my old tablet, that also has pen support) seemed to like the matte protectors, as the slightly textured surface felt a bit more like writing on paper. Using the pen on the glossy or non-matte variety is very similar to how it feels on the bare screen.
Matte protectors also cut down on glare. But they tend to give a "hazy" look to the screen that I find unacceptable.
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Thanks for the quick reply.
As a screen itself, I find Matte ones to be better, the viewing angles and sharpness can feel a notch down than the glossy, but the reduction in glare is pretty significant. I have it on one of my Laptops(also Samsung) and it feels very good.
I guess have to wait for others' views on the S-pen experience. Probably other Note devices have some opinions on other XDA sections, will try to find out

I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.

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I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.
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Could you throw some light on the material of the Screen Guard, was it glossy or matte?
So are you without the Guard now?
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Check out the thread I just made for the MiniGuard. It works very well!
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Could you throw some light on the material of the Screen Guard, was it glossy or matte?
So are you without the Guard now?
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The guard was glossy, near as I can remember. I am indeed without the protector.
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I hired the Geek Squad to install one of those InvisibleShield protectors from BestBuy when I got my Note 8, and had it on my tablet for about three hours. I took it off because it creates an incredible amount of friction with the S Pen's nub, making writing with the thing a fantastically aggravating chore (not to mention that the pen left track marks). I'm not saying that all screen protectors are so bad when it comes to this thing's core functionality, but InvisibleShield sure is. I'd be very curious about a protector with the lubriciously of the actual screen.
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The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02

bbfoto said:
The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02
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Huh... that liar. The guy at BB told me that the protector would be just fine and dandy after two hours, which is why I bailed after trying to use it for an hour. Oh well. At least it provided about an hour of amusement as my buddy and I attempted to rip or puncture the plastic with everything we had in the house (we were unsuccessful, even with ceramic knives and a motorized hand drill) (edit- after I had taken the protector of my tablet, of course). I'll keep an eye out for one of the dry applicators that you mention. And I'll apply it myself, after reading the instructions with my own eyes.
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I'll keep an eye out for one of the dry applicators that you mention. And I'll apply it myself, after reading the instructions with my own eyes.
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Be aware that dry apply is much more difficult to put on. With wet apply, you have time to slide it around, into just the right position, before you squeegee the excess application fluid out. With dry apply, its basically like a sticker, if you are off by just millimeters as you start to place it, you have to peel it back and start over, likely getting more fingerprints on the edges every time you do that.
Also, for some reason I can't explain, the wet apply gets much less dust under the protector as you apply it. The wet apply protectors I've used (twice now) have gone on flawlessly, and dust free as far as I can see. Before this, I used the dry apply many times. It took some practice before I could really get a dust free application. The first few I did, had a good amount of dust under them until I learned to go it just right. Even with experience, it takes a lot of care to get a dust free install with the dry apply. With wet apply, its pretty effortless.
I couldn't tell you why the wet apply seems to get less dust under them during installation. It doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Maybe dust particles just get carried away, when you squeegee the excess application fluid away.
I'd recommend doing the shower trick with the dry apply type (and it doesn't hurt with wet apply either) to reduce the amount of dust in the air while you do the install. That is, run a hot shower for 10 minutes or so, to steam up your bathroom. This pulls much of the dust out of the air. Then bring your tablet in there and apply the protector (don't leave it in there before or after the install, to minimize the time the device is exposed to high humidity).
Its true that dry apply does have a smoother finish and less tacky feel then wet apply. They tend to not suffer from the "orange peel" look. But the orange peel look on good quality wet apply protectors tends to be hardly visible when the screen is off, and not visible at all when the screen is on. But this might vary depending on the room's lighting conditions. To me, the orange peel is not a bother, but that is probably a personal preference.

The experts who put the guards here, first polish the device display to a great extent and then put the guard straightaway.
The one they applied on my phone, had a good protective covering which was peeled as the guy applied more and more. Even after this, there was another protection over the actual guard.
Also the screen guard wasnt specifically for my device, he also cut it out as per my device after the application.
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The ZAGG InvisibleShield screen protectors are the type applied with a liquid solution. Any of these type of screen protectors need to sit untouched for at least 24 hours to completely dry and become hard. Otherwise if you use your device before the skin has had a chance to completely dry, it will be slightly gummy at first, then a bit harder but still a bit of a rubber-type surface when using a stylus, which causes the stylus tip grab or stutter across the surface. Even when dry, these have a slight Orange Peel surface that I don't care for. YMMV. IME these also don't work well or last very long in Tropical or humid enviroments.
I've never liked any of the wet-application protectors for these reasons...I've tried the Zagg's, Skinomi's and one other I can't remember. I'll stick to the SGP/Steinhill Ultra Crystal dry-application protectors. Unfortunately, these aren't available yet for the Note 8.0.
Just my .02
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I emailed Spigen SGP asking if they were going to make one for the Note 8 and they said they had no plans to do so. i was certainly disappointed to hear that. I have one of their protectors on my note 2 and its great. I agree with you, the dry apply protectors are so much smoother than the wet ones and do not have orange peel or get that "sticky" feeling.
there is another thread with a review of the MiniGuard protectors which look to be of the dry apply variety. i almost bought some the other day when i ran across them at amazon and now that the review confirmed it (with pics too), this looks like the best option since Spigen wont be making anything.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BXQUQ9U/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Turbo Brian said:
there is another thread with a review of the MiniGuard protectors which look to be of the dry apply variety. i almost bought some the other day when i ran across them at amazon and now that the review confirmed it (with pics too), this looks like the best option since Spigen wont be making anything.
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That is too bad about Spigen SGP. If you (or others) try out the MiniGuard protectors consider letting us all know your impressions (and whether you went with Clear or Anti-Glare). @JokeZony0u has done a great review of the Clear protectors, but I think it is still helpful to have multiple datapoints for these kinds of things.

^^Thanks for that. Yeah, it looks as if the MiniGuard is the dry-app protector to get since Spigen SGP is out of the equation. Hopefully we'll get more good reviews of other protectors as well.
I agree that the hot, steamy shower technique is good. Also have some small, clean pieces of 3M Scotch Tape handy to pluck off any dust particles from the screen or the contact side of the protector film. I use a large microfiber cloth lightly dampened with isopropol alcohol to clean the entire device beforehand. Then I use the included microfiber cloth to further clean the screen just before applying the protector.
There's a good YouTube video on the best way to apply the dry protectors.
You line the protector up on your screen first (before removing any layers).
Then once the film is aligned properly, hold it in place and attach two pieces of blue painter's tape to the top of the protector film and just along ONE SIDE of the phone/tablet...one near the top and one near bottom, so that the screen protector flaps open to one side like a page in a book, using the blue painter's tape as a hinge.
Flip it open & out of the way and clean the screen again with your microfiber cloth. Double-check your alignment and readjust if necessary.
Then peel back the bottom film layer, remove it completely, and slowly apply the screen protector from the taped side to the free side.
Sqeegee out any bubbles.
Lift the protector just slightly with another small piece of blue painter's tape if you need to remove any dust particles with your Scotch Tape.
Sqeegee again and make sure the alignment is good.
Only remove the side positioning tape if you are satisfied with the application and alignment.
Finally, carefully remove the temporary top layer from the main screen protector film, being careful not to lift the main protector film.