Alot of people are talking about the iPhone 6 having a Sapphire Screen, if you want the Sapphire Screen on your S5, your wish has been granted.
An unkown Screen Protector brand called: "Aero-Gear" with the slogan: "Born from Aerospace" has advertized a screen protector called: "Flight Glass SX" housing the Sapphire Crystal material, and they have been doing it for several months, right now they are taking preorders for the Galaxy S5 Protector. They have been showing people the durability of the Sapphire screen for a while, from hitting an iPhone with a razor blade, to sliding a concrete block over it, no scratches or cracks and it's easier to wipe the dust than the regular Gorilla Glass Screen. Here are the videos:
maybe i would have to see some real world stuff, ive seen alot of this done to Gorilla glass before and we all know how something like sand can still scratch it.
I checked the website and at 0.6mm this is really thick, A credit card is 0.76mm for comparison.
Glass protectors are generally 0.015mm to 0.4mm. I'd think a 0.6mm glass one would be pretty dang tough also.
I'd be concerned with case fit/interference for the slimmest cases at that thickness; anyone gonna go for one?
blessedswine said:
maybe i would have to see some real world stuff, ive seen alot of this done to Gorilla glass before and we all know how something like sand can still scratch it.
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Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
When are they going to be shipped? I'll wait until I read some reviews on it. I have a Zagg Glass on my S5, and a otterbox defender soon to be swapped out for a Kraken and maybe a Zerolemon. seems pretty thick like delawaredrew is saying, I'd like to see it on a s5 and in a bunch of cases for compatibility.
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When are they going to be shipped? I'll wait until I read some reviews on it. I have a Zagg Glass on my S5, and a otterbox defender soon to be swapped out for a Kraken and maybe a Zerolemon. seems pretty thick like delawaredrew is saying, I'd like to see it on a s5 and in a bunch of cases for compatibility.
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Probably in a couple of days it will ship. The design covers the camera, sensors, recent apps and back button, and has a cutout for the speaker grill and home button. It is a bit thick, but you won't notice the thickness. I may post my own review for the protector.
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Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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i can see by that video that that screen protector is hugely thick, compared to the tempored one i have, its also not cheap at 53$ on amazon for the iphone 5 version, thats just too expensive i can buy 5-10 tempored glass screen protectors for the same price.
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i can see by that video that that screen protector is hugely thick, compared to the tempored one i have, its also not cheap at 53$ on amazon for the iphone 5 version, thats just too expensive i can buy 5-10 tempored glass screen protectors for the same price.
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That's the simulated screen protector, the real screen protector is much thinner, besides that, I don't care about the price.
Tempered Glass gets scratched by sand and sapphire does not.
This is how thin the sapphire protector is: prntscr.com/40ohyt
But will the sapphire screen protector fit with a case? My zagg glass fits my defender and Kraken case fine.
just have a look at a Rolex or a tag both have sapphire glass if you are looking for real world appeal of you will find many 15 to 20 year old Rolex's with beat up casings and the glass is immaculate
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Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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Just for the sake of Accuracy and Comparison:
Here is the Mohs Hardness scale.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral_hardness
Sand is usually comprised of quartz particles, and is a 7 on the Mohs scale.
Sand can scratch an equal hardness or less.
"Sand is a naturally occurring granular material composed of finely divided rock and mineral particles. The composition of sand is highly variable, depending on the local rock sources and conditions, but the most common constituent of sand in inland continental settings and non-tropical coastal settings is silica (silicon dioxide, or SiO2), usually in the form of quartz."
Im not convinced it's near worth it. An essentially no-name company claiming sapphire. for $50 or so
From the video the glass held up nearly as well in their test. And you can buy 3-4 glass ones off of Amazon (got a nice one for $16) for the price of one of theirs; meaning you can replace it if it cracks or the rare chance it scratched bad enough ALMOST FOUR TIMES. Over the course of ownership of 2 years, you can replace it every 6 months with new fresh glass for the same price; or more frequently if you're a yearly swapper- once every 3 months.
I also don't buy the hammer test. As we've seen in drop tests screens can crack or not crack at random. The screen under the protector is still glass people. The force will transfer through the protector and crack the glass under regardless of the material on top of it (glass or sapphire). Basic physics.
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Gorilla Glass is 7H in Mohs Hardness, sand I think is 9H, meaning that Sand could scratch whatever below it. Sapphire Crystal is 10H they claim, meaning that sand can't scratch it. For the real life test, skip to 1:42 in this video:
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Because of the remarkable hardness of sapphires—9 on the Mohs scale (the third hardest mineral, right behind diamond at 10 and moissanite at 9.25)
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So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Appreciate the input, I was thinking about picking this up. I know mime ghost are top of the line but also don't want to spend a fortune on a screen protector. Will pick this up
Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
mortymouse said:
So after reading a bit on lots of different threads here and many other boards, I decided to pick up a couple of the LUVVITT Tempered Glass screen protectors.
I ordered from Amazon and got them for $10 each and free shipping (Prime)
I gotta say, it was the easiest install I have ever done. I started off with the hinge method but I used painters tape and it fell off and I just lined everything up and pushed down in the middle and watched the self adhesive. It went on VERY easy. I did this in a kitchen, (not in the bathroom with hot shower on for the steam) and I didn't get a single piece of lint on either of the installs.
Mine were cut essentially perfect. Cut outs were right on and everything went together pretty much perfectly. As a note, there were a few tiny bubbles in certain areas. I thought at first it was dust but pushed lightly down and it would disappear. Over the next 24 hours they vanished and the protector is now smooth as glass.
I do notice that it does seem to get smudges and some fingerprints, but with a quick swipe of a microfiber cloth (included) or an Oakley glass bag (which I always have on me) they disappear.
This really is a great buy over the glass that costs 2-3 times a much. I recommend this product if you are looking for a screen protector and want more but don't want to pay $30 for it. This is pretty dang good, as good as the ZAGG that is on my buddies phone. We compared them and you cant tell the difference at all.
Bought them here:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IKRHCCY/ref=oh_details_o02_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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Isn't 9H hardness a little bit too high ? i mean yeah it's gonna be very scratch resistant but it will break very easily too...
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
njan_ivide said:
How easy/obstructive is the home button cutout? I am curious if you can use the fingerprint sensor without any issue.
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I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
nickhowell25 said:
Thanks for your input. I just ordered mine, and it should be here within the next couple hours. I will be installing and I will do give my opinion on it also. I recently had the ZAGG glass on my HTC ONE M8, and it was absolute amazing. Only gripe with the ZAGG was the cost....which was around 43$, but luckily I was able to get my money back.
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You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
I use my fingerprint scanner everyday, it doesn't interfere at all. The scanner itself isn't the best, but it works the same with our without the protector.
You will like it. Now that I have used it for a a while I forget its even there. Putting a care on it didn't hurt it either, the rounded corners do the trick.
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Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
nickhowell25 said:
Mortymouse,
I love it man! I just installed. I recommend to all. I had the ZAGG, and they are virtually the same except the price. ZAGG 39.99 and LUVVIT 12.99... I will let you all take your pick. Thanks for the recommendation
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You got it!
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Not sure why you would want it to be less hard? Understand, the glass is so thin, it almost looks like plastic.
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The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
dw4 said:
The harder it is the easier it breaks, from tension or from shock.
But, hardness gives resistance to scratches, because any material would need to have the same or a higher hardness to be able to scratch it.
So it depends on what you want, gorilla glass has a hardness of 7, it means that the only the things with a higher number will be able to scratch it.
When you take a look at gorilla glass, it breaks very easily, the perfect hardness for a glass protector should be a little higher than 7.
That way in case of shock the glass protector, having a little higher hardness, will dampen the shock by breaking before the glass.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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Interesting, I have not ever thought that much about it. This type of glass bends, its almost scratch proof and its shatter proof. If you drop your phone with it on, it will shatter and leave your digitizer unharmed. The hardness rating has more to do with the scratching, etc. You wont find a glass protector with under 9H and its way better than having a normal screen protector as it prevents your screen from shattering.
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The only glass protecter i ever had was a 5 hardness and it could barely bend, it was just like glass they shiped it in a armored box lol ( just kiddin ) so it wouldn't break during shipping.
Well if we all agreed, then life wouldn't be very interesting.
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
AuGmENTor said:
Thanks for this. I bought an Iloome for 25$ for my S4 and I thought that was a tad high... Especially since I broke it a month in. But it was my fault. 10$ is way more palatable.
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Happy to pass good deals on especially whenever the product works!
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I wish...
My AT&T Note 4 is one of those "steep" curved black models and the top and bottom of the iVisor sticks (well 70% of it), and the side adhesive doesn't touch the phone's glass at all.
Sure it doesn't halo, but the sides don't adhere, leaving a gap for dust and general pocket "stuff" to get under the screen protector.
Also, the capacitive buttons became more annoying to use with the Moshi iVisor vs just your typical PET film. At least in my experience, not completely sure why tbh.
Ended up with a Zagg HDX, which does adhere with my phone's ridiculous screen curvature. Not bad but not glass, oh well. At least the AT&T store allowed me to return it :crying:
Can't we apply a second screen protector beneath the Moshi iVisor?
Also, do you have pictures of this protector installed on the Note 4?
Moshi has a 30-day Satisfaction Return Policy
munkypo7 said:
I wish...
My AT&T Note 4 is one of those "steep" curved black models and the top and bottom of the iVisor sticks (well 70% of it), and the side adhesive doesn't touch the phone's glass at all.
Sure it doesn't halo, but the sides don't adhere, leaving a gap for dust and general pocket "stuff" to get under the screen protector.
Also, the capacitive buttons became more annoying to use with the Moshi iVisor vs just your typical PET film. At least in my experience, not completely sure why tbh.
Ended up with a Zagg HDX, which does adhere with my phone's ridiculous screen curvature. Not bad but not glass, oh well. At least the AT&T store allowed me to return it :crying:
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Might just have to order one up.
I believe that the black/white areas just hide all the halos and mess.
arjun90 said:
Can't we apply a second screen protector beneath the Moshi iVisor?
Also, do you have pictures of this protector installed on the Note 4?
Moshi has a 30-day Satisfaction Return Policy
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I suppose you could, the adhesive only does around the edge of the iVisor.
I don't have pictures of it installed but I do of the bottom after a million installs, it's dirty on the bottom simply due to my stupidity in cleaning it and using a microfiber to dry instead of following the directions. My fault on the dirty-ness entirely, I even showed the AT&T rep and he said not to worry.
The AT&T store already took it back without any issues and refunded me the $48 + tax, so I'm fine. Granted not satisfied but for now the Zagg will have to do. For the record, the crying emoticon was for the fact it wasn;t as perfect as I had wished, not the I couldn't return it... my error in placing it there.
These pictures I took to send to my brother anyways showing the adhesive and how the screen curves, bear in mind, it's flat, just that the top of the glass is curved, so it in itself is 2.5D or whatever the term is but it's still a flat sheet of glass, therefore, for those of us special Note 4 owners with really curvy screens, we're still out of luck.
Imgur Album (just 4 shots): http://imgur.com/a/aOGue
Edit: Also, for reference, only the home button is actually cut out, all of the other things like the front facing camera, capacitive buttons, notification LED and Samsung branding have glass over them.
Our local AT&T store has these in stock..................will pick one up in the morning and report back.
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munkypoo7 said:
I suppose you could, the adhesive only does around the edge of the iVisor.
I don't have pictures of it installed but I do of the bottom after a million installs, it's dirty on the bottom simply due to my stupidity in cleaning it and using a microfiber to dry instead of following the directions. My fault on the dirty-ness entirely, I even showed the AT&T rep and he said not to worry.
The AT&T store already took it back without any issues and refunded me the $48 + tax, so I'm fine. Granted not satisfied but for now the Zagg will have to do. For the record, the crying emoticon was for the fact it wasn;t as perfect as I had wished, not the I couldn't return it... my error in placing it there.
These pictures I took to send to my brother anyways showing the adhesive and how the screen curves, bear in mind, it's flat, just that the top of the glass is curved, so it in itself is 2.5D or whatever the term is but it's still a flat sheet of glass, therefore, for those of us special Note 4 owners with really curvy screens, we're still out of luck.
Imgur Album (just 4 shots): http://imgur.com/a/aOGue
Edit: Also, for reference, only the home button is actually cut out, all of the other things like the front facing camera, capacitive buttons, notification LED and Samsung branding have glass over them.
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Does the iVisor glass stick to the actual display area of the Note 4 or just float in the air?
Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?
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Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?
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I believe that the actual screen/display area does not stick at all with the Moshi. The only thing that sticks are the top, bottom and the actual thin sides.
I worry about the rainbow effect like with the Defender's built in screen protector.
The AT&T store wants $48. plus tax.
Here we go again. Smh..
Can't you buy and return if it doesn't fit right? You might as well order from Moshi's website. At least they have a 30-day return policy even for opened items. They have that satisfaction guarantee policy.
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I believe that the actual screen/display area does not stick at all with the Moshi. The only thing that sticks are the top, bottom and the actual thin sides.
I worry about the rainbow effect like with the Defender's built in screen protector.
The AT&T store wants $48. plus tax.
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Can't you buy and return if it doesn't fit right? You might as well order from Moshi's website. At least they have a 30-day return policy even for opened items. They have that satisfaction guarantee policy.
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I'll buy it at the AT&T store in the morning and if it turns out to be crap I'll just get a refund there in the next day or so. Looks like a great idea but I'm worried about no adhesives behind the actual glass display areas.:silly:
Definitely take some pictures while you're at it.
If there is no adhesive behind the actual tempered glass in the display area, I might first install a regular PET Screen Protector that has full edge to edge coverage like the XtremeGuardz (6-Pack for $3 on eBay) and then overlay the PET film with the Moshi. At least that will even the coverage out. According to Moshi, their tempered glass is more rigid than Zagg's, Iloome's, and Otterbox; and I actually believe them.
Here are the screen protectors in my possession right now:
Otterbox Alpha Glass (being Returned for Refund)
Zagg Glass, Revised (Keeping as backup), costed me $14.29
Zagg HDX (Keeping as backup), costed me $13.60
iLoome Flex (Keeping as backup), costed me $19.99
Spigen Crystal PET Screen Protectors 3-Pack ($9.99)
6-Pack XtremeGuardz HD PET Screen Protectors ($2.99)- Excellent Coverage
6-Pack Supershieldz PET Screen Protectors ($4.99)- Coverage is so-so
1x Otterbox Commuter PET Screen Protector - Included with Purchase
*Italics denote that these purchases were negligible.
Tomorrow, I will be making the final decision between the Commuter and Defender Series cases, depends on what the fitment of the replacement case.
felloffthetruck said:
I'll buy it at the AT&T store in the morning and if it turns out to be crap I'll just get a refund there in the next day or so. Looks like a great idea but I'm worried about no adhesives behind the actual glass display areas.:silly:
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I'm going to pick one up in the morning and see what it's all about.
If the edges stick real good it would be perfect for the Otterbox commuter as It's rubber edges will seal the whole thing up nice.
I'll be the Guinea Pig and pick one up in the morning and give it a whirl.
This looks like the edge to edge screen protectors for iPhones; probably have the same "feature". The colored part has no glue and simply floats over the curved edge of the screen. This is not a curved screen protector; at least for iPhone, this works best for those wanting a thin case as the glass will float over the case making it seem more seamless. For those going naked, this will be very annoying.
I guess this will be good for those (like me) that really wanted to put a tempered glass screen protector along with the built in screen protector on the Defender Series case, but couldn't so. Definitely keep us posted, especially with pictures.
felloffthetruck said:
I'm going to pick one up in the morning and see what it's all about.
If the edges stick real good it would be perfect for the Otterbox commuter as It's rubber edges will seal the whole thing up nice.
I'll be the Guinea Pig and pick one up in the morning and give it a whirl.
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Kinda reminds me of built in screen protector found in the Otterbox Defender series case. Otterbox really failed this time around, and perhaps this might be a viable solution for me.
bleuiko said:
This looks like the edge to edge screen protectors for iPhones; probably have the same "feature". The colored part has no glue and simply floats over the curved edge of the screen. This is not a curved screen protector; at least for iPhone, this works best for those wanting a thin case as the glass till float over the case making it seem more seamless. For those going naked, this will be very annoying.
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I've ordered one from Moshi's website. Will need to see this in person as well. Might actually satisfy me more than Otterbox's Defender Series.
arjun90 said:
Thanks, I'm thinking about ordering one too. I might try without regretting. Is there some adhesive on the bezel sides as well?
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In the first picture I posted, I tried to catch that, so I may not have, but yes there is adhesive on the sides as well, which due to my Note's ridiculous curvature, didn't adhere, letting dust and all the general pocket dust slide right under the glass.
The glass portion on the screen has absolutely no adhesive, it's ever-so-slightly lifted due to the adhesive around the edges, which is why it never bubbles but can have crud caught under it.
Though, in all fairness, while any Otterbox case for me is an instant "no" (bulk), if you get a case that can essentially bite down on the sides preventing stuff from sliding in under the screen, you may have one hell of a winning combination
Guys, I am currently using the ivisor glass, see post#1880 on the tempered glass topic. Took some pix with 2 cases: samsung protective cover+ and otterbox commuter. The protective cover fits much better. It's like the ivisor was made to fit with the samsung covers. The commuter is a little tight on the 2 sides, corners go over the ivisor. Can't download pix right now cause i don't have cable or sd slot on my work PC to download from my camera. I'll try to upload pix this evening.
arjun90 said:
iVisor Glass for the Note 4, by Moshi
Next-generation IonGlass screen protector is stronger than tempered glass.
Complete edge-to-edge protection with a precision-tooled curved bezel.
Up to 40% thinner than generic glass screen protectors.
100% bubble-proof, scratch-proof and shock-proof.
Oleophobic surface-coating provides fingerprint resistance.
http://www.moshi.com/ivisor-glass-for-galaxy-note-4#black
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This glass only attaches at the top and bottom, not the sides. The glass itself is not curved, thus there will be a gap on both sides. What prevents dust, hair, dirt, lint, etc from getting in between the glass and the phone through these huge openings on both sides?
Thanks!
Greg
A good case like the samsung protective cover+ or cases that have similar fit. No dust so far in the 6 days of use.
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In my opinion I would not recommend the ivisor glass for people who do not use case or a case similar to the 2 case that I have tested. I think if you drop the phone and landed on any corner or side it would probably come off with the impact force as there is not enough adhesive surfaces.
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
No screen is "shatter proof" in a cell phone. You could have gorilla glass 10, and if your phone lands the "right" way, it will break.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
Japultra said:
AFAIK, Gorilla Glass 4 is as strong as Gorilla Glass 3 but in a thinner form. And Gorilla Glass 3 is definitely not shatter proof.
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I looked this up too. Here:
"A piece of Gorilla Glass 4 can offer the same damage resistance as a thicker piece of Gorilla Glass 3, so manufacturers like Apple could make their smartphones’ screens 20% to 25% thinner than with Gorilla Glass 3 if they wanted to “settle” with the same damage resistance levels of Gorilla Glass 3."
Seems to imply that manufacturers have a choice - they can thin down the gorilla glass 4 panel and offer the same protection as gorilla glass 3, or they can use a 'standard' thickness gorilla glass 4 panel and offer better impact protection than earlier. Wonder what approach went into the S6 panel.
Read more: http://www.cheatsheet.com/technolog...from-shattering.html/?a=viewall#ixzz3TLHbeTpM
All glass will shatter in the proper conditions. The S6 will be no exception. I say this will make having a case all the more important. I imagine back panels won't be terribly expensive, but the screen will be $$$. Good luck removing the front glass without damaging the LCD panel. I know it's been done on the S3 and up, but the thought of heating up the phone enough to soften the adhesive, while not damaging the other phone components, scares me.
xxaarraa said:
A Note 4 owner (love the Note 4) looking to switch to the S6 next month when it comes out due to the smaller size.
Question - I noticed in the hands-on videos of the S6 from MWC that the metal rim extends a bit above the glass panel to absorb impact, and it's gorilla glass 4.
So - does this truly make the phone shatter proof? Can I use it without a case and not worry about shattering the screen if it falls out of my pocket (my Nexus 6 shattered from 2 feet).
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Survives 80% of the time and is 2x better than competition.
no phone is. i will say if it is anything like the xperia phone it will be a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BGQtfDZNt4
the impressive thing about this phone is it's the closet to the S6, both have glass on front and back. the big difference is the xperia uses DragonTail glass and not gorilla at least on the Z2 from what i gather..
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
frankgreimes said:
Only option to prevent the horror scenario - glass shattering - is to put an UAG or Otterbox case on it and protect the screen with tempered glass. Like Dandroid and others have said you could have Gorilla Glass 25 if the phone is landing on the right spot face first it will shatter no matter what.
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I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
xxaarraa said:
I think you guys are all missing the point of the question. I didn't ask if Gorilla Glass 4 guarantees that the phone will never break. I was merely wondering about it's improved strength and its benefits in everyday scenarios. In hindsight, maybe I should worded it as "shatter resistant" instead of "shatter proof"
And no, some of us don't want to turn our already big phones into clunky laptops or VCRs by putting a hideously huge case on it. Which is precisely why the industry is investing in shatter resistant technology to start with.
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Then live with the consequences I doubt you'll ever see full shatter-proof glass on a phone
i want to know if the screen is using the anti reflective coating like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05UFlwnbtfE
The screen on my Note 4 is supposedly Gorilla Glass 4 and I still managed to crack it.
bull****!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...s/samsung-view-case-scratched-screen-t3107467
no, it's not shatter proof, it's more of scratch proof, these screens are built to wishstand a static pressure, which means something that moves on the screen it self, like trying to scratch it, shatter proof means it has to take a dynamic pressure, like dropping or hitting with a hammer or things like that, you can't have both worlds at least in glass...so they focus more on the scratching thing....
We've all seen the drop tests and no doubt dropped their phones without cases from time to time too. I haven't broken a screen by dropping a naked phone since before the original Xperia Z. The S6 glass is pretty resistant to shattering but best to use a screen protector and take the hit on that instead of the screen.
Just love my s6 being naked since I bought it .. I don't care about shattered or not.. they have spent billion of dollars for R&D to development such technology.. so why can't we just enjoy it as it's out of the box... otherwise nothing left forever guys...
Stopped using mine, and love it. Just an overall more pleasant experience with the phone, and plan on keeping it off.
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I see no need for a screen protector if your device is equipped with Gorilla glass (and you are handling it carefully).
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I always use tempered glass screen protector to make sure fine grits of sand and any hard object don't scratch the screen. I can live with scratched bezels like that on my Note 4 but not on any of my phones's screen.
Never used a protector and have not had any problems. If I was a construction worker or farmer I'd put it in a case, but I have a desk job so it's never exposed to harsh conditions.
Dropped my phone in the parking lot a few months ago. The tempered glass took a chip on the edge, but my screen was fine. I dare not think about what would have happened to the screen otherwise.
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After a lot of drops, screen still looks intact. But from closer look I can see some scratches. If it wasn't Gorilla glass 3 I will definitely buy screen protector.
I often sell my phones and the first thing a buyer looks for are scratches on the screen; therefore, I always use a tempered glass screen protector. Over time, I find that fine scratches will develop, even with Gorilla glass.
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
I don't. Each to their own I guess.
Gorilla glass is too high rated. I've seen drop tests for all Samsung S phones, from about shoulder height. They all ended up with broken screens. Gorilla glass my ass.
The Oukitel K4000's screen is amazing. You can hammer nails with it and the screen won't even have a scratch. Manufacturers should start making screens like the K4000's screen.
Gorilla glass my ass, its scratch easily in my jeans back pocket,, so i put on tempered glass
My protection
In the 2 1/2 years I used the S4, I never used a screen protector. My protection came from using a Nite Ize belt holster made of ballistic nylon with a flap. I do have a line across the front of the phone from wear of putting it in or out of the holster but it doesn't detract from the appearance. The phone has been dropped on occasion on a variety of surfaces with no damage to the screen.
As has been noted, YMMV. FWIW, I have moved on to the Moto X Pure and use the same type holster along with the plastic bumper that came with the phone. No drops yet but am thinking about getting a tempered glass cover.
i had a zagit but got tired of the dull screen so I removed it...glad i did and haven't scratched the screen yet
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
I use a random tempered glass screen + an otterbox defender with the built in screen protector removed.
I have this case. $15 at a stand at the mall. Rubberized layer to wrap the phone, tough tight fitting outer shell with a grippy back, bumpers on the corners and raised rubber around the screen bezel to keep the screen from making contact with the floor in case of face down drops or rubbing in the pockets. Only complaint i have with it is the holes for the volume and power buttons are a little too flush, making it a bit of a pain to get used to, but adjusting wasnt so bad after a while. And again the case is tight fitting, so getting it on and off is a minor headache but worth it. Tested drops from arms length above my head (I'm 5'9", so say about 6'8"), not a single mark on the screen. Just cracked the plastic above the volume buttons. No need for screen protector here though a tempered one would be nice. However I agree the loss in sensitivity with a screen protector on is not worth the hassle of actually applying it and risking the nasty bubbles. At $5+ a pop, having them eventually peel at the edges and get dirt under it can cause more damage than normal wear and tear if your careful enough
I never use screen protector.
chiruscan said:
I gave up on screen protectors. They are expensive, difficult to put on the right way without getting dust underneath, and the glass ones are so fragile. Last one I tried literally snapped in my hand trying to align it to the screen. Something that fragile will not provide much protection even though it looks good.
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I use those cheap Walmart screen protectors, and the key to putting them on is the tape trick. Barely have any bubbles underneath.
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Ereniemis said:
As seen on the android wear watches. Gorilla glass is very good against breaking, or destroying, but isn't as good against scratches, so these little scratches always build over time. I've never used any kind of these glass temmpered protectors or whatever nonsense, because the gorilla glass is sufficient enough against breaking, and when u drop the phone on the edge, the glass won't save you either way and the display will crack due to the "construction" of gorilla glass. It's very dense and strong against any impact from the front side, but is very fragile to impacts from "sides". So I use a foil from myscreenprotector dot com. I have S IV for almost 2 years now, and I'm really harsh on it. I've dropped it like zillion times, It even fell a couple times from stairs and nothing happened. My middle frame had pieces falling out, so I've changed it, I've changed the back cover and I'm planning on changing the front frame, because its compltely shattered at some places. But the screen never cracked. And the foil from the site... I can't even see it on the display, It doesn't feel different to touch and I use to replace it every year or so (8$ isn't that much...) and when I peel the foil off the display, the display is as new as the first day I got it, no scratches what so ever
EDIT: I've started with the android wear... I currently have huawei watch for 3 months and it has sapphire glass, which is not as strong as gorilla glass, but is extremely good vs scratches... And I've never seen anyone, who would stomp on their watch, but you can scratch them anywhere...
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Agree. See no point in the tempered glass protectors when they're not gonna prevent your glad from shattering. I just use those $10 screen protectors from Walmart just to prevent little scratches from dirt and stuff. And really, I only use screen protectors now because I realize how" wet" and harder to slide your finger across a baked screen can get. Screen protectors makes swiping e screen much smoother and easier.
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I haven't. However I do have a case that has a slight bumper around the top of my screen, therefore there is no huge need for me to have one.
I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?
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I thought of this and ultimately decided on not using a screen protector at all after having no luck with tempered glass. Unless you're going for 5+ years of daily usage or live on the sand or use your phone as a cutting board, I don't really feel that they're necessary for anything other than accommodating for the massive and annoying lip that is found on many protective casings.
Realistically, how long does it take to scratch a screen up real bad? I had (and still have) a tempered glass protector on the Note 2 and only ended up with two small, minor scratches on it after nearly three years of daily use.
acejavelin said:
I think we have beat the tempered glass subject to death here... I removed my half-peeled off Tantek tempered glass protector and tried to apply a new one, didn't go so well, this one kept lifting right below the bottom speaker and I tried a little heat from a hair dryer (from a YT video) and it got worse instead of better... long story shortened, the new one is broken and went in the trash and my phone has no screen protector in it's Poetic Affinity case.
Are there any plastic film screen protectors that fit well and don't feel like cling wrap? Supershieldz seem to have mostly good reviews on Amazon, and 6 of them for $6 is pretty cheap.
Is it really worth it to use a simple film screen protector if it isn't tempered glass since we already have Gorilla Glass 3?
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I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.
aybarrap1 said:
I would say that you should look at the old screen protector you removed and determine how scratched it was. Just a few after a year or more of usage, your probably fine running naked.
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Yeah, it looked pretty good actually... Probably just going to go plain.
Been I using mine for a year and a half with no screen protector. Just an incipio octane case most of the time.
Can't see a single scratch even in bright light, at an angle, with the screen off. It has held up quite well.
I too have been thinking of going without a tempered glass. But a few times my phone drops on the screen side and then I thank my tempered glass. It's worth it for me, because if the screen breaks it will probably be very expensive to replace and I don't want to spend anything more than 2 dollars on my moto x style
I used to use zag screen protectors they make a plastic one that felt ok not great with my note 3 went to glass never looked back until the moto x pure but i don't think ill go back to plastic ill probably stick with glass and put up with the slight halo
i have had the best luck with pleson on my moto x i have scratched the glass protectors and my old pleason saved my screen. The biggest thing i don't like about this phone is the lack of good cases all of the cases suck and the otter box is poorly designed...
I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.
Remote_Data said:
I have dropped getting a screen protector after getting a Galaxy S3.
Gorilla Glass is pretty tough, and I have had my Pure for probably 5-6 months now, and I do not see any noticeable scratches. Not that it is flawless, just a few very tiny scratches that I would not see unless if I looked very closely. Just go naked, and be careful when you're near sand.
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Yep. Sand is a pristine screen killer. I really have no choice since I live in a coastal city. Sand is everywhere and needless to say, my glass screen protectors scratch up very noticeably within a year (doesn't matter the brand either). I baby my phones even with a sturdy case so it is not neglect on my part. I typically use a holster as well so that sand that may be trapped in my pocket cannot do a number on my screen protectors.