835 and Windows 10 support? - Samsung Galaxy S8+ Questions & Answers

Is there any information about the S8 being about to run Win10 with Dax? I know its a long shot, but i'm DYING for this feature http://www.pcworld.com/article/3154...a-new-start-with-qualcomm-snapdragon-835.html.

Not sure about through Dax, but read somewhere about Microsoft storefronts eventually offering s8/s8+ running Windows 10. Only available in their stores; not online, and needed be installed and activated while one waits.
Maybe dual boot?
I stand corrected. It will be called the Microsoft Edition, but will only be loaded with Windows apps not W10

gotta wait. I am hoping that with root we will be able to boot up windows or even linux through the Dex platform.

bluetoothless said:
Not sure about through Dax, but read somewhere about Microsoft storefronts eventually offering s8/s8+ running Windows 10. Only available in their stores; not online, and needed be installed and activated while one waits.
Maybe dual boot?
I stand corrected. It will be called the Microsoft Edition, but will only be loaded with Windows apps not W10
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Thats the mobile apps. The 835 actually has the ability to emulate x86 code and run native desktop apps.
Zeal415 said:
gotta wait. I am hoping that with root we will be able to boot up windows or even linux through the Dex platform.
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I'm hoping for a system like chroot but for windows. Probably wont happen. As long as you can run android apps through Dex you should be able to get linux

Windows 7 for life.

YellowGTO said:
I'm hoping for a system like chroot but for windows. Probably wont happen. As long as you can run android apps through Dex you should be able to get linux
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What it looked like to me is that your actually opening up a remote desktop version of windows through Dex, atleast thats the way it sounded like with the wording. At first I thought it was a virtual PC in there which could theoretically be possible. So im not sure if we are packing a full OS in there or not, but it would be pretty bad ass to have a app to open up and boom you got what ever version of what ever OS you want running. I have a few uses for that already.
I am thinking personally if I have a KBM switch with a Dex station, I could theoretically remotely connect to my Linux server at home and manage my cloud and plex server through my phone. Then I could Also remotely access my work laptop and VPN with a Dex station in my van, and have a nice monitor mount with a keyboard and mouse there. Would be super sweet, or maybe I continue to access Linux through my desktop, but I can instead access Linux server remotely in case anything goes wrong while I am away.

Zeal415 said:
What it looked like to me is that your actually opening up a remote desktop version of windows through Dex, atleast thats the way it sounded like with the wording. At first I thought it was a virtual PC in there which could theoretically be possible. So im not sure if we are packing a full OS in there or not, but it would be pretty bad ass to have a app to open up and boom you got what ever version of what ever OS you want running. I have a few uses for that already.
I am thinking personally if I have a KBM switch with a Dex station, I could theoretically remotely connect to my Linux server at home and manage my cloud and plex server through my phone. Then I could Also remotely access my work laptop and VPN with a Dex station in my van, and have a nice monitor mount with a keyboard and mouse there. Would be super sweet, or maybe I continue to access Linux through my desktop, but I can instead access Linux server remotely in case anything goes wrong while I am away.
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Dex is its own thing. You can run android apps in tablet mode on it or dex specific apps. You can already loadup chroot (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.meefik.linuxdeploy&hl=en) with your distro of choice (arm) and ssh into your linux server. Of course if you want it just from remote administrator, you can just download an android SSH (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonelli.juicessh&hl=en) or VNC (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.realvnc.viewer.android&hl=en) (GUI) program and remote into your server. Alternatively, you can use webmin (http://www.webmin.com/) for a webbased SSH client hosted on your server, that way you can navigate to your webmin install with any web browser.
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Dex running an android app

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Dex is its own thing. You can run android apps in tablet mode on it or dex specific apps. You can already loadup chroot with your distro of choice (arm) and ssh into your linux server. Of course if you want it just from remote administrator, you can just download an android SSH or VNC (GUI) program and remote into your server. Alternatively, you can use webmin for a webbased SSH client hosted on your server, that way you can navigate to your webmin install with any web browser.
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I am gonna have to look into it, I am awaiting the parts to come into build it, I was considering doing the VNC through my desktop, gotta build the server. I am a novice when it comes to Linux, played with it, but never really had a use for it untill now.
As far as I could see Dex seems to be literally just a dock that puts a fan on your phone and enables you to plug in a HDMI cable, a Lan cable, and 2 usb cables to it, while chargin your phone, so the only limitation we should have is if the app does not like to be blown up or used with a mouse and keyboard, + what ever samsung/android limitations are on it.

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[Q] Use Thunderbolt as a pc? is it possible?

Wanted to know if theirs a way or if somone has already done this.Connect a Monitor, mouse and keyboard to their phones somehow and use phone as a portable pc. would be cool. maybe possible with right drivers? maybe bluetooth mouse/keyboard.
Not that I've ever heard of... I've heard of people getting various linux distros going but not so much on the using it as a mini pc
If you have a PC, use PhoneMyPC. Works perfect and can use multiple PCs.
If you don't have a PC, use "Always On PC."
Edit: Just re-read your post. I don't think there's a way.. I did see a commercial for a phone that plugs into a laptop "dock" though that seemed to be a lot like what you're looking for. Can't remember what its called though.
Linux would be a running as a PC. It is a fully functional OS.
Not you fat Jesus
00negative said:
Linux would be a running as a PC. It is a fully functional OS.
Not you fat Jesus
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I meant to satisfy the OP's desire to use external mouse/keyboard. I haven't seen that, have you?
It already is a computer (and I would consider it a personal computer with a few limitations such as not having the processing power and harder to port software). You can ssh into it all you want and use any shell you want, though have fun compiling from the source for things or finding precompiled ARM binaries that work on android. There's tutorials out there about how to install ARM linux distros like debian on android as well as x-windows so you can have a pretty GUI desktop, but you will lose the functionality of it being a phone while it's running instead of android os.
If you are want to dock it and make it into like a laptop, i suggest you go for the ATRIX. I believe thats the only phone available in the market.
However the dock is gonna cost you the same if not more than the phone off plan.
thanks for replies. was just wonderin if i could. had extra monitor, keyboad and mouse laying around and just wanted to know if i could do it just incase somone was on my pc and i needed a quick backup or somthing to mess with. thanks yall.
MisterDonut said:
If you are want to dock it and make it into like a laptop, i suggest you go for the ATRIX. I believe thats the only phone available in the market.
However the dock is gonna cost you the same if not more than the phone off plan.
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atrix is just a hack though. it runs a version of ubuntu stored on the phone dock (not even on the phone itself). At that point you might as well just buy a cheap eepc netbook for 200 or so dollars.
techspecs said:
I meant to satisfy the OP's desire to use external mouse/keyboard. I haven't seen that, have you?
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Ah I see what you mean, don't think I have but don't see why it wouldn't be possible if someone really had a desire to try and know how to make it happen.
But have seen Ubuntu run an on screen keyboard on a tablet.
Don't think it would be real user friendly to use keyboard and mouse on such a small screen though
Not you fat Jesus
I wish it was, but I don't think it is possible. I wanted to turn a LED projector to a a HUD display so I could watch football games on the HUD in my car. Or use it to browse the internet. But for that to happen we would need some kind of mirror display, or so I understand, and given that we don't have hdmi, I don't think it is possible. Maybe our awesome devs can come up with something for us though. (or atleast one could hope.)
Just a followup, if the OP really wants to, you can dual boot into debian on your phone and run xwindows with a couple various GUIs (such as XDE, which is pretty similar to gnome). After that, you can ssh (via wifi) into it and use a vncserver (over the ssh connection) installed on the phone to remotely connect to xwindows and see it on a monitor. When you want to use your phone as a phone again, you just reboot back into android as you would boot from linux to windows on your pc.
Debian maintains all the packages available for x86 on ARM so you'll find plenty of stuff without having to compile.
For those that don't know ubuntu is basically debian with a few extra packages and generally newer packages. Same filesystem, etc. Debian has been maintaining one of the oldest distributions of linux for ARM so I recommend it for that for the amount of documentation you'll find.
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http://www.androidfanatic.com/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=2248
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/03/msg01555.html
http://lanrat.com/android/debian
http://inportb.com/2010/10/17/debian-packages-on-android-phones/
http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Android
Whenever I trade in my phone for something new, I plan on sticking ARM debian on it and remove android to make it a nice little mobile linux server via the wifi built into it doing the methods listed above.
I think there are two types of approaches to this:
Video Out/HDMI
and
USB Display Adapter
Video Out/HDMI (requires HDMI and CM6/7):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1038840
w/ video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbm0JhGVxCA
USB Display Adapter with USB host/OTG support:
http://sven.killig.de/android/N1/2.2/usb_host/
w/ video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-bLOc1qnMM
The Thunderbolt does not have HDMI out (nor will it ever) OR USB/OTG mode (yet).
The prospects are daunting. I think CM will get on board with desktop support at some point, but it won't include phones that lack HDMI out.
I think there is a lack of enthusiasm for this type of feature too. Just my opinion. I wish there was more enthusiasm, because I really feel desktop support is the future of smart phones.
I wish Google would dump Chrome OS and push desktop support in the next version of Android and make certain all hardware supports OTG and HDMI simultaneously. GS2 fails in that department since the HDMI port and USB share the same port (MHL).

VMWare View - damn good

I'm on PCoIP right now (instead of RDP) so it is VERY responsive. I like this. Full Flash acceleration and you can literally browse the web like on a real computer.
And I'm hosing this on my desktop(in sig) so I have a full 4GHz quad core at my disposal from ANYWHERE after setting up some simple port forwarding with dyndns.org
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here's a screenshot from my winserver2008r2 vm(use as view server)
Looks like I got myself a new project tomorrow
Ok, I'll bite - what is PCoIP??
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Ok, I'll bite - what is PCoIP??
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PC-over-IP
you need two windows server installations and one guest OS.
1 - domain controller (AD DC)
2 - vmware view connection server (join the domain) - vmware won't install unless you are on a domain...so that is the need for the domain controller
3 - any install of winxp, win7 on the same domain
entitle yourself and create a pool of devices you want to connect to, then connect to the connection server from android. vmware view is supposed to be an "anywhere, anytime" connection solution. so you can't choose what device in the pool you connect to. it will just choose an available one. This is meant for a multiuser environment. say you get one big server and create 60 clones of windows 7 in vmware vcenter. you can add them all to the pool so your 50 employees can work from their thin clients(or other devices)
i allocate 512mb ram for the domain controller, 768mb of ram for the vmware connection server and 1gb for each guest OS my tablet/dummy device will connect to.
Just a last note: to actually use PCoIP, you need a VMware View version 5 environment.
daigoro64 said:
Just a last note: to actually use PCoIP, you need a VMware View version 5 environment.
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And plenty of time But am almost there!
The domain controller is what stopped me from trying this... too much work at that point (for a home network / for me)
Tenny said:
The domain controller is what stopped me from trying this... too much work at that point (for a home network / for me)
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Slapshtop HD would be more than enough for the average homeuser
Am only doing this so I could get to know View 5
Any advantages using this over, let's say, something simpler like Splashtop?
SwiftLegend said:
Any advantages using this over, let's say, something simpler like Splashtop?
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it is a lot faster. try watching youtube from splashtop. you can on vmware.
this is aimed more towards enthusiasts. i assumed everyone would have view 5 already
Uhm, Splashtop can play flash (and other) videos pretty well.
I'm not sure if PCoIP will be better than say Citrix ICA.
chatch15117 said:
it is a lot faster. try watching youtube from splashtop. you can on vmware.
this is aimed more towards enthusiasts. i assumed everyone would have view 5 already
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Oh. Is it hard to set up? From your description it did, for me, being I have hardly any experience with remote desktops apps, etc.
SwiftLegend said:
Oh. Is it hard to set up? From your description it did, for me, being I have hardly any experience with remote desktops apps, etc.
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I too would like to know the procedure on how to set this up. I have done Hyper V clusters but still novice on VMWare, let alone VMWare View.
narvel said:
I too would like to know the procedure on how to set this up. I have done Hyper V clusters but still novice on VMWare, let alone VMWare View.
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install two windows server 2008 r2 installs on two vms.
then make domain controller(pick a domain)
http://www.elmajdal.net/Win2k8/Setting_Up_Your_First_Domain_Controller_With_Windows_Server_2008.aspx
then join the 2nd vm to that one. install vmware view on it. configure it how you want
http://www.vmware.com/pdf/view45_installation_guide.pdf
read the install guide.
install windows on a vm or pick a physical machine you want to be in your VM pool. then create the pool and run the vmware viewagent on all clients. join them to the pool. the vms have to be on the domain
entitle users to the view server.
that's it.

[HOWTO] Linux on Android (Remote)

I was on vacation a few weeks ago and saw a commercial for a product that promised to give you a full desktop on an iPhone, iPad, or Android device. I was interested so I looked it up. Can't remember the name, but it was basically some remote access software along with a Linux box they provided with OpenOffice, Gimp, etc. on it. You paid a fair amount for a year of service and renewed every year.
I got to thinking... why can't I just do that myself? I have tried remoting into my main desktop before, but that stinks because I have giant dual displays, and fancy 3D desktop effects, and all that. But it made me think: why not set up a virtual Linux box and access it anywhere I have a network connection. You could do this with Windows too or a variety of other tweaks, but I'm going to give you the broad strokes for what you need and you can customize as you see fit.
Here's what the end result looks like:
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You need a few things:
1) A computer that is always on that can run VirtualBox or other virtualization software.
2) A public IP address for that computer. I use dyndns but sadly they are now making it hard to sign up for free.
3) A copy of Linux (I use Kubuntu)
4) Some setup on your Android device
You can probably figure out from here but follow along anyway, for a few observations.
1) https://www.virtualbox.org/ - Install this on your computer
2) Like I mentioned, I use dyndns.org but if you don't have an account you may want to try someone else. If your router supports a service, use that. Otherwise look at http://www.no-ip.com/ and http://www.dnsdynamic.org/ and pick what you like. For a dd-wrt router, look under Setup and DDNS for a lot of options. Set it up so your always on computer has a name like mycomputer.dyndns.org or whatever you are using.
3. Create a new virtual machine in Virtual Box. I'm using Kubuntu 386 (http://www.kubuntu.org/). Download Regular Download .iso. I named my machine TabletBack - I set the Base memory to 1GB (I have a lot of RAM; you may want to change this) and set the video memory to 32MB. I created a new virtual hard drive of 20GB and mounted Kubuntu iso as the virtual CDROM. I also set the remote desktop port to 9999 (you can change this, and you may not use it but it doesn't hurt to set it; see later in this guide). All the other settings were the normal settings, except later I will add a shared folder (more on that later). Boot the machine and go through the Kubuntu install. When you are booted completely, install the Virtual Box extensions and shut down. Go back to configure and set a VirtualBox shared folder so that you can access your normal home directory as a shared folder inside the virtual machine. Remove all the fancy wallpapers, 3D, etc. In fact, I may switch down to lxde as a window manager, but have not yet.
4. Here's the tricky part. You need to make the virtual machine have a screen to match the size of your tablet. You might want to make the screen slightly smaller. With the VM shutdown you want to issue this command:
VBoxManage setextradata "TabletBack" "CustomVideoMode1" "1250x695x16"
Obviously use your own VM name and screen size. The size listed works nice for my Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10.1.
5. Boot up the VM again (use the regular VirtualBox GUI). Then you need to select this resolution in your xorg.conf. You need an xorg.conf section like this:
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
Modes "1250x695"
EndSubSection
If there is a request, I will attach my entire xorg.conf.
6. Almost there. While you are in the VM, browse to http://www.teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx. You might not want to use TeamViewer, and you do have a few options. However, TeamViewer is not only pretty good, but you can also get to your remote machine via any Web browser which is pretty slick. Install TeamViewer on the VM. Also install TeamViewer on your tablet (obviously, the Android version).
7. Tell the VM OS to start TeamViewer automatically. If you use KDE, System Settings, Autostart will let you do that.
8. Ok... now, while the VM is up, start up TeamViewer and do all the the logins. You should be able to start Teamviewer on the Android and using your dynamic DNS name. If it all worked, you should connect and can use your remote machine. If not, you need to fix things until you can. You do not have to use this setup, however, see step 9. TeamViewer should punch a hole in your router assuming it supports uPNP. If you don't use uPNP on your router, you'll need to open the TeamViewer port yourself (5050, usually).
9. You can also use any RDP client (I like the 2X Client from the market) to connect to the RDP server on port 9999 of your dynamic DNS computer. Note: You will need to open your router for port 9999 if you expect to use this outside your local network. If your client needs a password you will need to run the following:
vboxmanage setproperty vrdeauthlibrary "VboxAuth"
10. One last thing. Shut down the VM now that it is all working. Set your main computer to launch the following script:
vboxheadless -startvm TabletBack
Or whatever name you gave it. You won't see anything but you'll be able to connect to the virtual computer.
11. Install all the stuff you want on your VM. OpenOffice, GIMP, whatever.
Wow. That turned out uglier than I thought. But you should get the idea. Ask questions and if there is demand I'll try to clean it up paying special attention to the areas people are having trouble wit

Remote Desktop over internet ?

Hi everyone,
it might be a stupid question but I was wondering if the Remote Desktop app could be used to access my laptop via internet.
I know it works very well when the Surface and the laptop are connected to the same Wireless router but I would like to know if th same as possible, given the fact that the laptop and the Surface are connected to different (distant) wifi networks.
I searched for this but could not find a clear answer or "how to" to do it.
Thank you very much
You can do it, look up port forwarding for remote desktop. You need to setup your router to do it.. I think the default port for RD is 3389
Thank you very much
You will also have to know the public IP address of the router, do the port forwarding and it works fine. You can use DynDNS or one of the other services to keep the IP address updated. Or, you can use TeamViewer to do it without touching your router. You have to set up an account at TeamViewer, but everything is free and it works well.
drowe said:
You will also have to know the public IP address of the router, do the port forwarding and it works fine. You can use DynDNS or one of the other services to keep the IP address updated. Or, you can use TeamViewer to do it without touching your router. You have to set up an account at TeamViewer, but everything is free and it works well.
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Well I will try both ways and see what is the most convenient, thank you for your answer
I remote in from outside networks and it works great. Now I just wish we could enable the setting to allow us to transfer files. Where it shows us the local hard drive on the remote computer and all we have to do is drag and drop.
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Can you not? Remote Desktop still supports this, at least the desktop version (haven't tried the "Metro" one).
Huzzah!
I'm actually using metro-app on a daily basis with no-ip (so i don't have to remember my own ip-adress all the time)
So all you need to do is:
1. Get your self an account at: http://www.noip.com/
2. Create a host and install client
3. Open port: 3389 on your router and point it to the right computer
4. Allow it in the firewall
5. Connect
There is ofc more steps if you want to be more specific, but I think you'll figure it out
I would have to say Team Viewer is by far the easiest solution.
Yeah +1 Teamviewer here..
Trig0r said:
Yeah +1 Teamviewer here..
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++1 just tried this out, dead simple to use and no networking mojo needed.
Interesting you guys have chosen TeamViewer so clearly,....I've just tried it, and it will make due for now, but I need to copy and paste text from pdfs constantly and I noticed it to be extremely laggy by comparison (to RD). I'm guessing it's because it needs to download more data than the native client, but if there are any suggestions on speeding it up please post.
Remote Desktop/RemoteApp Problems
I have not been able to connect while out-of-network.
I've waisted several days of productivity trying to resolve this by myself, then on the phone with Microsoft, and some of them aren't even familiar with Surface RT. So with connecting to RD in-network is pretty easy and effective, hopefully some here can confirm that they have the same problems and/or offer possible solutions.
As I see it, there are 3 interfaces where we can connect to RD on the Surface RT: The the pre-installed desktop Remote Desktop found via swipe and search, the metro downloadable Remote Desktop, and RemoteApp via control panel).
I see where the computer is pinged and port 3389 is open, so I will state the problems I see with each when I try log into a Windows 8 Host computer:
1) pre-installed RD:
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It's great and your computer name is there for you and ready while logged into your account and in-network. You have options like "Connect and don't warn me If server authentication fails" that I see helped out a lot of people on Windows Server with certificate issues.
Once out of network on Surface RT, however, you get "Remote Desktop can't find the computer ______. This might mean that "_____" does not belong to the specified network. Verify the computer name and domain that you are trying to connect to."
2) Metro UI:
It seems to ping the computer faster when you put :3389 at the end of your IP. However, no success after trying with and without the port ending. The messages I get are....
3)RemoteApp:
this is the solution I've seen in most tutorials,...but the reason given for not connecting is "The remote computer cannot be authenticated due to problems with its security certificate."
Instead of the option to bypass it (which option 1 gives you), there is no other option and it says "Windows cannot continue setting up this connection. Contact your workplace administrator for assistance."
This message caused me to learn more about certificates than I ever wanted to know. I've tried starting up MMC and making sure the cert listed in Remote Desktop was copied to the Trusted Root Certificate Authorites folders (both sides as local computer certificates). I've tried different combinations and haven't really gotten anywhere.
If anyone connects via #3, please post specs on your certificate if you can find it.
Any help on getting any of these methods to work is appreciated. It bares repeating that port 3389 is listed as open on my home network, traffic is forwarded to the correct PC, and all firewalls are disabled until I can resolve this.

[Request] Samsung Ativ Q Win8/Android integration ported to Surface Pro?

Do you think is it possible to have this Windows 8/Android integration:
http://www.engadget.com/video/viddler/ac514577/
on Surface Pro? I think it's a sort of Bluestacks modded by Samsung, it's not a dual boot system.
It would be fantastic (at least for me)
That looks pretty cool. ..it would be great if it was more reliable than bluestacks, that way I could reliably run epocrates and pleco.
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Actually it is supposedly running android natively according to Samsung. no idea how they are achieving that, my guess is that they got android to play nicely with Hyper-V or something and it does a full screen virtualisation (which with hyperV + haswell will still perform like a high end android tablet). Not a conventional dual boot though.
If there was some definate information about how it was done then it may well work on the surface pro too.
I think there's no virtual machine..
Seeing the amazing performace, I suppose it can be a sort of chroot executed under windows.
The presence of a kernel that supports the Core processors in Android, makes me think that no hardware is virtualized and that the instruction are executed natively in a protected area as it happens with chroot.
It wuold be awsome having the possibility to install all this on every pc in the world.
The best of the two worlds 8Q__
I'm not sure you understand how chroot works... or how operating systems in general do, actually. Android is built on top of the Linux kernel. Leaving aside the fact that Windows doesn't support chroot, chroot still requires a compatible kernel to handle system calls. Win32 system calls are different from the POSIX system calls that Linux uses. NT does have a POSIX subsystem, but it's not fully compatible with Linux (and isn't binary-compatible at all; programs need to be recompiled to run under it) and isn't included with any version of Win8 except Enterprise anyhow.
It's either a pure Dalvik runtime on x86 - which could exist, but would only execute programs that were purely Dalvik code and didn't use the native dev kit at all - or it's an Android VM of some sort (note: virtualization doesn't mean the performance is bad. You're confusing it with emulation). It's vaguely possible it runs on NT through some compatibility layer like Cygwin (except that requires recompiling) or LBW (which requires the aforementioned POSIX subsystem), but I doubt it. Android in Hyper-V seems by far the most likely to me.
It certainly has the hardware to support Hyper-V and if I were samsung that would be the route I would go down for 100% android compatibility.
This device seems far better to me than the asus transformer trio or whatever it was called. The asus device was just horribly disjointed, this seems closer to true android/windows 8 intercompatibility.
Maybe its like a backwards wine? e.g. run the linux system calls under windows? or maybe e.g. like colinux?
donbowman said:
Maybe its like a backwards wine? e.g. run the linux system calls under windows? or maybe e.g. like colinux?
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I don't believe that colinux has any x64 support, and it would require some rather significant reworking of Android's display layer.
@donbowman: The closest thing I know of to "backwards wine" is LBW, Linux Binaries on Windows. It's a very hacked-together and incomplete project which appears to now be abandoned, although I've considered working it myself from time to time. It requires the POSIX subsystem, which Microsoft has shown very little interest in continuing to support.
Any chance of an ARM chip in there?
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Any chance of an ARM chip in there?
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I haven't looked at the hardware at all but I seriously doubt it. It's far easier and cheaper to either emulate an ARM CPU on the x64 chip or just use Androidx86 or another similar distro.
I think they said in the unveil that it is running on the haswell.
Intel offer a variant of android to device manufacturers seperate from Android-IA. So far its only been available on clovertrail but it may well have been modified to run on haswell (and HyperV or something). But it includes a wrapper for the NDK which runs native code inside an ARM emulator, yet if an app has an x86 NDK binary is still capable of running that in x86 mode. Would make including an ARM core irrelevant.
Must say, loving the look of the Q. When its out perhaps someone will be able to take a closer look at how android is actually running (and it may well be a port of dalvik rather than emulating or virtualising android or a Linux compatibility layer, my bet is on virtualisation). Then chances are it will be able to be ported or duplicated on the pro.
This is definitely possible. Go check out this website.
Update: YMMV, but android-ia did not work properly for me. The touch screen didn't work, nor did wifi or bluetooth. ALSO, when I booted back into windows, auto rotation no longer works and in the charms menu (slide from right side of screen) I see "brightness" instead of "screen" and the icon changed from that of a screen to a sun (Surface Pro). So I would not recommend trying this. Maybe I did something wrong, but still.
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Update: YMMV, but android-ia did not work properly for me. The touch screen didn't work, nor did wifi or bluetooth. ALSO, when I booted back into windows, auto rotation no longer works and in the charms menu (slide from right side of screen) I see "brightness" instead of "screen" and the icon changed from that of a screen to a sun (Surface Pro). So I would not recommend trying this. Maybe I did something wrong, but still.
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its always said brightness.....
Android IA does not have a surface pro image so has no drivers for its touch or WiFi, that much is obvious.
Also for it to effect your windows partition you have done something wrong yourself, android cant do that to your windows partition.
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its always said brightness.....
Android IA does not have a surface pro image so has no drivers for its touch or WiFi, that much is obvious.
Also for it to effect your windows partition you have done something wrong yourself, android cant do that to your windows partition.
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Uhm, I don't know about you, but mine always showed a "screen" icon, not a brightness icon.
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Uhm, I don't know about you, but mine always showed a "screen" icon, not a brightness icon.
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I dont own a touch device but on my desktop its a brightness slider (greyed out though)
Subscribed. It would indeed be awesome to have Ativ Q Android VM ported to Surface Pro. Anyone had luck with Android-IA?

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