I have a s7 edge. I want to downgrade from nougat to marshmallow without tripping knox. Is it possible??
Plz help
Yes, you only trip KNOX by flashing custom, if you flash stock with ODIN your KNOX will remain 0x0
Are you sure ? Have you tried it? Because i dont want to take any risks. Thanks
NilayNoob said:
Are you sure ? Have you tried it? Because i dont want to take any risks. Thanks
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Why even ask if you're gonna question the answer?
I wouldn't say it if I wasn't sure, not to mention it is common knowledge which you would have learned had you read any threads at all first
Yes, I've done it many times to my S7, still 0x0
Sorry if I was rude in any way. I just wanted to know if it trips or not. And since you say you have done it plenty of times i believe you
Don't worry about it, just a bit strange to ask a question on a forum, get an answer, and then ask the person if they are sure as if they will suddenly change their minds
Yes, don't worry, as long as the ROM is STOCK, and you use ODIN, KNOX will not be tripped
I haven flashed back and forth between Nougat and MM to test camera photo quality, my KNOX is still 0x0
*Detection* said:
Yes, you only trip KNOX by flashing custom, if you flash stock with ODIN your KNOX will remain 0x0
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, so basically you don't trip KNOX simply by rooting? As long as you root and stay or flash stock rom you remain 0x0?
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Sorry for hijacking the thread, so basically you don't trip KNOX simply by rooting? As long as you root and stay or flash stock rom you remain 0x0?
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Once you flash twrp or any thing else other than stock rom stuff your knox counter gets to 0x1.
Btw @detection What do you prefer Mm or nougat?
charliebigpot said:
Sorry for hijacking the thread, so basically you don't trip KNOX simply by rooting? As long as you root and stay or flash stock rom you remain 0x0?
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Root is custom, therefore KNOX will be tripped
Only stock ROMs do not trip KNOX
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NilayNoob said:
Once you flash twrp or any thing else other than stock rom stuff your knox counter gets to 0x1.
Btw @detection What do you prefer Mm or nougat?
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Prefer Nougat, MM felt childish once I flashed back, big chunky icons and settings look like they're designed for children or old people
Nougat looks and feels much more professional, things are faster to respond with Nougat such as fingerprint unlock
All round the better OS for my S7
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Don't worry about it, just a bit strange to ask a question on a forum, get an answer, and then ask the person if they are sure as if they will suddenly change their minds
Yes, don't worry, as long as the ROM is STOCK, and you use ODIN, KNOX will not be tripped
I haven flashed back and forth between Nougat and MM to test camera photo quality, my KNOX is still 0x0
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Hi, I'm planning to downgrade my S7edge 8.0 to 6.0 due to touch issue, I'm wondering if there's anything I need to do before flashing the official firmware using Odin?
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There are users here in Canada with Note 3's that have "Custom" in "Current Bianary" and "System Status".
This information has not been posted, I have NO idea why. I am guessing these people could care less about us (the people still in the dark).
I have only just obtained a Note 3 (Week ago) and I am trying to figure this stuff out.
We have a special Note 3 in our N900W8's. Apparently we can:
- Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 via Odin 3.09 without tripping Knox (not sure if this requires the Mexican bootloader first or if we can do it with our Canadian bootloaders)
- Keep Knox at 0x0 with Custom Everything else. From what I see, our bootloaders are unlocked allowing us to flash our phones in Odin with multiple files (not 1 file mode as this contains a bootloader) as long as we dont include the bootloader (theory from what I have seen, and read a few times, no confirmation).
However I can not get an answer out of anyone who knows anything. I cannot just blindly flash and see if Knox is tripped, I'll only get one shot. Not worth it IMO.
Can anyone chime in on this? Is it acceptable to call members out? I know exactly who the 2 people are that have Custom everything and Knox at 0x0. 2 Torontonians, younger guys, doesn't seem like they want to talk though. Can I call them in here, is that acceptable behavior? Never done that before. Hehe.
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
I PM'd you but yeah, I'm Knox 0x0 on X-Note 12 right now. Sorry about that, wasn't home.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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That link notes that installing a custom recovery will trip knox. Could you please verify what you did to install custom recovery and still maintain knox 0x0? Will be very interested in your follow-up.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
bingbinghaha said:
Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
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Actually, I would be interested too. Any chance of posting the procedue instead of PM to multiple users? If not, please PM me as well
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
kiru said:
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
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Second that.
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Okay here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tks73wZH3qg&list=UU2FLZg9YNAr4YAd0VEDDKGQ
You have to pause to see it at the beginning, and in hindsight, I probably have should of started in CWM, then booted into recovery, but whatever.
Set it to HD and pause it at the beginning, you can see my Knox 0x0. Then watch the video and I boot into the ROM, then back into CWM, all in one cut.
Cheers.
Same here
Knox 0x0 here, after a few good reasons to trip it
Android newcomer here.
I have a Bell Canada SM-N900W8, and it came with 4.3. Rooted 4.3 with Kingo (noob style) and that was just perfect to start out. Then the OTA came out. I unrooted the device, reseted with Kies 3 update to 4.4.2 and then Kingo wasn't working anymore of course.
At that point I decided I didn't care about tripping knox and installed TWRP to start trying roms... Tried like 2-3 1+gb complete packed roms (bootloops, probably cauz im a noob) then I wiped from TWRP, restored my OTA backup, flashed with CF-Auto-Root international version (canadian is another bootloop) and then flashed a CivZ kernel +stock-modification rom that I now simply keep clean with Titanium Backup and some apps y'all know about.
Some more info :
My version is VLUCNB7
My current kernel [email protected]
My current SE state is Permissive
Again, Knox is 0x0. Even after bootloops of custom crap that was crashing and I'm custom-rom, custom-kernel.
Two facts to finish that off
1) That's weird
2) I'm a lucky *****
Have a great day
What if I want to use a custom 4.3 ROM (just to get BT Tethering) without tripping KNOX?
The guides seems to push you to install the 4.4 ROMs.
I have the Bell version of N900W8.
Started at MI5, rooted de la vega, then wanted to upgrade to 4.4.2.
Used polishpats way of upgrading with the leaked 4.4.2, flashed all the AP,CSC,CP,PIT, then installed TWRP and autorooted, both with Odin 3.09 - no knox trip
Wanted to try X-note, installed it using TWRP, and no knox trip
Upgraded the kernel using TWRP, no knox trip
Did not like X-note, wanted to go back to 4.4.2, and reflashed it - no knox trip
Downgraded back to 4.3, no knox trip
upgraded to offical 4.4.2, no knox trip
rooted via chainfire and odin - no knox trip
now sitting at rooted 4.4.2 with 0x0 still
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
klau1 said:
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
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Hello,
My friend has just the same phone as me, he bought it a few weeks before me, and he used his own techniques and got 0x1 knox tripped, so I just can't warn you enough : not all N900W8 are "untrippable"
...but...I didn't trip mine and I'm not alone.
Without more information you can't just say canadian w8's are untrippable, cauz they are.
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
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Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
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I doubt it.
Will look into this. I am positive all N900W8's are the same.
Surely your friend missed something or did something improperly to trip Knox.
Taking this all in. Thanks for the posts guys!
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
klau1 said:
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
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Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
nexxusty said:
Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
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Flashed CF-Auto-Root, flashed TWRP 2.6.3.0, 0x0 still!
Now for the info on my phone.
I have done as follows.
Phone came with 4.3 stock --> Root De La Vega --> Flashed 4.4.2 Stock (Rogers) with Odin 3.09 --> CF Auto-Root --> TWRP 2.6.3.0 = Rooted 4.4.2 with TWRP 2.6.3.0 Recovery and Knox @ 0x0.
I'm not stopping here. Will flash everything DrawntoLife has.
Appreciated my man. Thanks again! Easy to Follow Step By Step Tutorial **WILL** be written tonight after I am done at a LAN I am already late for figuring this out.
Talk soon everyone! Happy flashing!
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
klau1 said:
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
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When I updated to 4.4.2? I did, but I was not sure if that would trip Knox so I left it in the package.
It's irrelevant now anyway, the bootloader in 4.4.2 Rogers is the one I am on now and allowing me to do all this still.
I suggest you update to it. Use the package labeled "N900W8VLUCNB7_N900W8OYACNB7_RWC". That is 4.4.2 for a Rogers Note 3.
I can safely assume you can flash this at any point and be fine. Even if you are already on a hacked 4.4.2 or something. There would be no issue updating the bootloader to the same version, would just overwrite it.
Hey dudes,
I'm relatively new to Samsung devices, so I have few big questions.
1. Is it possible to root the new firmware G920FXXU2BOFJ without tripping KNOX counter?
2. If there is a way to root but only with tripping KNOX, can I somehow reset the counter and go back to 100% stock without any traces?
Thanks in advance!
mageldai said:
Hey dudes,
I'm relatively new to Samsung devices, so I have few big questions.
1. Is it possible to root the new firmware G920FXXU2BOFJ without tripping KNOX counter?
2. If there is a way to root but only with tripping KNOX, can I somehow reset the counter and go back to 100% stock without any traces?
Thanks in advance!
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Yes, there is a method using PingPong Root however you need to be on 5.0.2. If not then unfortunately there is no way to root at the moment without tripping knox.
I know about PingPong Root. But I'm asking to root 5.1.1! ?
mageldai said:
I know about PingPong Root. But I'm asking to root 5.1.1!
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No way without tripping Knox, if you don't care about Knox flash uni kernel which will auto root your s6
UltraGamerHD said:
No way without tripping Knox, if you don't care about Knox flash uni kernel which will auto root your s6
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Okay, thanks. Is there any way to reset the KNOX counter (like TriangleAway), e.g. when I flash a stock rom will that reset the counter??
mageldai said:
Okay, thanks. Is there any way to reset the KNOX counter (like TriangleAway), e.g. when I flash a stock rom will that reset the counter??
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There is currently no way to reset the counter at the moment. I am sure some devs will figure it out at some point.
Alright! Thanks a bunch....Guess that means waiting for me
Hi Guys!
(I don't care whole knox thing, even warranty)
Can i still get ota updates if i got knox warranty void 0x1(phone into *samsung*)?
Of course i flashed stock firmware back with odin.
In downloading mode i get
Current Status: Samsung Official
System Status: Official
Knox warranty void: 1 (0*0301)
Knox doesnt affect ota updates. Only root disables ota.
Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
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Is it possible to set the code back? Im on 5.1.1
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Absolutely not.
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Absolutely not.
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What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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As of now, unfortunately yes. There is no way
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What do you mean by absolutely not? I thought Triangle Away resets the KNOX tripping. And I was reading it still worked on S6... Are you saying it's impossible to "un-trip" KNOX now?
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Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
XxM4tzexX said:
Triangle away doenst reset the Knox counter, it resets the flash counter. This is very different.
There is no tool which can reset the Knox counter.
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So the two years that I've had my S5 rooted, my warranty was voided and irreversible? Huh. I've never needed any assistance from Sprint and I'm hoping I won't now. Makes me feel better to know that I'm in no different a position than I have been. I just have to hope my phone works perfectly.
Would that affect my ability to sell my S5 back to Sprint? Sorry if I'm not on this thread's topic exactly... Should I end my line of questioning in this thread?
Just keep flashing the latest updates on your own by getting stock firmware and using Odin, that's what I would do if I ever went back to a non-rooted device - might go back just to try Samsung Pay.
Hey guys,
I am planning to move to 5.1.1 stock G920IIUS2COH1 for my 920I but I want to know if there is still no possible solution to root without tripping KNOX?
I have 5.0.2 rooted I did not install TWRP to avoid tripping KNOX, is this better to stick like that?
Thank you
You will not hear of a fix, it might come, it might never not. If you need root stick to 502
godutch said:
You will not hear of a fix, it might come, it might never not. If you need root stick to 502
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It's possible if someone manages to leak the engineering bootloader for G920I
Hey guys been away for a while so not clued up on current affairs with rooting.
Is there a way to root without tripping it, if so could you link me i have UK plus version.
Thanks guys
Also can we put un branned rom on the phone without tripping it
Didn't understand your second message
There is no way to root the Galaxy S8 without tripping knox.
After a year, there is still no way to root the Galaxy S7 without tripping knox. So don't hope a root without knox tripping because it will probably never happen. Knox security is too high
Flashing anything with Odin will flag 0x1 on knox. So there is no way to flash TWRP and keep your warranty. And no way to flash anything else without loosing your warranty.
Thank you for the information
BigBen60 said:
Flashing anything with Odin will flag 0x1 on knox..
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I've flashed my Vodafone firmware S8+ to stock without tripping knox.
Flashing anything not signed by Samsung will trip knox irreversibly
alltaken123 said:
I've flashed my Vodafone firmware S8+ to stock without tripping knox.
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How?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/help/samsung-s8-stock-firmware-uk-eu-t3593011
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lynxblaine said:
Flashing anything not signed by Samsung will trip knox irreversibly
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This is correct. Other poster appeared to say that anything flashed (signed) will also trip knox.
So i can use BTU without tripping Knox ?
Can you use a signed BTU ROM without tripping Knox
TheLoverMan said:
Can you use a signed BTU ROM without tripping Knox
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Yes
You can use any samsung rom without tripping knox
BigBen60 said:
Didn't understand your second message
There is no way to root the Galaxy S8 without tripping knox.
After a year, there is still no way to root the Galaxy S7 without tripping knox. So don't hope a root without knox tripping because it will probably never happen. Knox security is too high
Flashing anything with Odin will flag 0x1 on knox. So there is no way to flash TWRP and keep your warranty. And no way to flash anything else without loosing your warranty.
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Early on they found a way to root the S7 without tripping, if I remember correctly, but it got patched up pretty quick.
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This is correct. Other poster appeared to say that anything flashed (signed) will also trip knox.
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Not correct, actually. I have a S8+, I've flashed like 3 different firmwares through Odin, BTU, TCE and yesterday I flashed XSA, and I still have untripped knox 0x0
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Not correct, actually. I have a S8+, I've flashed like 3 different firmwares through Odin, BTU, TCE and yesterday I flashed XSA, and I still have untripped knox 0x0
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You flashed signed firmware and Knox is not tripped?
The Root said:
Early on they found a way to root the S7 without tripping, if I remember correctly, but it got patched up pretty quick.
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Yep. I rooted mine and didnt trip it but it was a really buggy root and even after all the patch fixes it was still bad so I went back to stock. NO knox trip.
faslane said:
Yep. I rooted mine and didnt trip it but it was a really buggy root and even after all the patch fixes it was still bad so I went back to stock. NO knox trip.
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Do u mind sharing what u did? Previously I used Huawei Mate 9, rooted the phone caused the phone display a warning message during boot up that indicates the phone has been modified. However, the message was gone when I flashed a stock rom. Does it the same like Samsung phone? (Rooted the phone will trigger knox, re-flash stock rom will revert the knox to 0x0)
daredevil07 said:
Do u mind sharing what u did? Previously I used Huawei Mate 9, rooted the phone caused the phone display a warning message during boot up that indicates the phone has been modified. However, the message was gone when I flashed a stock rom. Does it the same like Samsung phone? (Rooted the phone will trigger knox, re-flash stock rom will revert the knox to 0x0)
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This was for the s7 using an engineering bootloader that was rootable, the current s8 engineering bootloader doesn't seem to be rootable.