There are users here in Canada with Note 3's that have "Custom" in "Current Bianary" and "System Status".
This information has not been posted, I have NO idea why. I am guessing these people could care less about us (the people still in the dark).
I have only just obtained a Note 3 (Week ago) and I am trying to figure this stuff out.
We have a special Note 3 in our N900W8's. Apparently we can:
- Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 via Odin 3.09 without tripping Knox (not sure if this requires the Mexican bootloader first or if we can do it with our Canadian bootloaders)
- Keep Knox at 0x0 with Custom Everything else. From what I see, our bootloaders are unlocked allowing us to flash our phones in Odin with multiple files (not 1 file mode as this contains a bootloader) as long as we dont include the bootloader (theory from what I have seen, and read a few times, no confirmation).
However I can not get an answer out of anyone who knows anything. I cannot just blindly flash and see if Knox is tripped, I'll only get one shot. Not worth it IMO.
Can anyone chime in on this? Is it acceptable to call members out? I know exactly who the 2 people are that have Custom everything and Knox at 0x0. 2 Torontonians, younger guys, doesn't seem like they want to talk though. Can I call them in here, is that acceptable behavior? Never done that before. Hehe.
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
I PM'd you but yeah, I'm Knox 0x0 on X-Note 12 right now. Sorry about that, wasn't home.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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That link notes that installing a custom recovery will trip knox. Could you please verify what you did to install custom recovery and still maintain knox 0x0? Will be very interested in your follow-up.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
bingbinghaha said:
Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
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Actually, I would be interested too. Any chance of posting the procedue instead of PM to multiple users? If not, please PM me as well
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
kiru said:
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
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Second that.
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Okay here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tks73wZH3qg&list=UU2FLZg9YNAr4YAd0VEDDKGQ
You have to pause to see it at the beginning, and in hindsight, I probably have should of started in CWM, then booted into recovery, but whatever.
Set it to HD and pause it at the beginning, you can see my Knox 0x0. Then watch the video and I boot into the ROM, then back into CWM, all in one cut.
Cheers.
Same here
Knox 0x0 here, after a few good reasons to trip it
Android newcomer here.
I have a Bell Canada SM-N900W8, and it came with 4.3. Rooted 4.3 with Kingo (noob style) and that was just perfect to start out. Then the OTA came out. I unrooted the device, reseted with Kies 3 update to 4.4.2 and then Kingo wasn't working anymore of course.
At that point I decided I didn't care about tripping knox and installed TWRP to start trying roms... Tried like 2-3 1+gb complete packed roms (bootloops, probably cauz im a noob) then I wiped from TWRP, restored my OTA backup, flashed with CF-Auto-Root international version (canadian is another bootloop) and then flashed a CivZ kernel +stock-modification rom that I now simply keep clean with Titanium Backup and some apps y'all know about.
Some more info :
My version is VLUCNB7
My current kernel [email protected]
My current SE state is Permissive
Again, Knox is 0x0. Even after bootloops of custom crap that was crashing and I'm custom-rom, custom-kernel.
Two facts to finish that off
1) That's weird
2) I'm a lucky *****
Have a great day
What if I want to use a custom 4.3 ROM (just to get BT Tethering) without tripping KNOX?
The guides seems to push you to install the 4.4 ROMs.
I have the Bell version of N900W8.
Started at MI5, rooted de la vega, then wanted to upgrade to 4.4.2.
Used polishpats way of upgrading with the leaked 4.4.2, flashed all the AP,CSC,CP,PIT, then installed TWRP and autorooted, both with Odin 3.09 - no knox trip
Wanted to try X-note, installed it using TWRP, and no knox trip
Upgraded the kernel using TWRP, no knox trip
Did not like X-note, wanted to go back to 4.4.2, and reflashed it - no knox trip
Downgraded back to 4.3, no knox trip
upgraded to offical 4.4.2, no knox trip
rooted via chainfire and odin - no knox trip
now sitting at rooted 4.4.2 with 0x0 still
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
klau1 said:
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
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Hello,
My friend has just the same phone as me, he bought it a few weeks before me, and he used his own techniques and got 0x1 knox tripped, so I just can't warn you enough : not all N900W8 are "untrippable"
...but...I didn't trip mine and I'm not alone.
Without more information you can't just say canadian w8's are untrippable, cauz they are.
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
klau1 said:
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
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I doubt it.
Will look into this. I am positive all N900W8's are the same.
Surely your friend missed something or did something improperly to trip Knox.
Taking this all in. Thanks for the posts guys!
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
klau1 said:
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
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Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
nexxusty said:
Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
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Flashed CF-Auto-Root, flashed TWRP 2.6.3.0, 0x0 still!
Now for the info on my phone.
I have done as follows.
Phone came with 4.3 stock --> Root De La Vega --> Flashed 4.4.2 Stock (Rogers) with Odin 3.09 --> CF Auto-Root --> TWRP 2.6.3.0 = Rooted 4.4.2 with TWRP 2.6.3.0 Recovery and Knox @ 0x0.
I'm not stopping here. Will flash everything DrawntoLife has.
Appreciated my man. Thanks again! Easy to Follow Step By Step Tutorial **WILL** be written tonight after I am done at a LAN I am already late for figuring this out.
Talk soon everyone! Happy flashing!
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
klau1 said:
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
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When I updated to 4.4.2? I did, but I was not sure if that would trip Knox so I left it in the package.
It's irrelevant now anyway, the bootloader in 4.4.2 Rogers is the one I am on now and allowing me to do all this still.
I suggest you update to it. Use the package labeled "N900W8VLUCNB7_N900W8OYACNB7_RWC". That is 4.4.2 for a Rogers Note 3.
I can safely assume you can flash this at any point and be fine. Even if you are already on a hacked 4.4.2 or something. There would be no issue updating the bootloader to the same version, would just overwrite it.
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Ok guys...finally we have android 4.3 update for our I9506.You can download it from here.It's official but the download link is from terrafile.co since hotfile.com is closed for now.Flash at your own risk via Odin.
Here is a fast mega.co.nz mirror!!!
aresbv2000 said:
Ok guys...finally we have android 4.3 update for our I9506.You can download it from here.It's official but the download link is from terrafile.co since hotfile.com is closed for now.Flash at your own risk via Odin.
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Currently downloading it .... i will see if Bootloader is locked/knoxed not dowgradeable ... will report you then
The results are attached!!!!
So stay on 4.2.2 if you dont want Konx Warranty void ****!!!!
xenix96 said:
The results are attached!!!!
So stay on 4.2.2 if you dont want Konx Warranty void ****!!!!
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Dude...your knox warranty is ok.It should be 0x1 if is voided.
Do not root at this time.it will void your warranty.Wait for some knox friendly root method.Anyway...my i9505 had knox status 0x1 and i had it replaced in warranty (by Orange Romania) for a faulty display.
aresbv2000 said:
Dude...your knox warranty is ok.It should be 0x1 if is voided.
Do not root at this time.it will void your warranty.Wait for some knox friendly root method.Anyway...my i9505 had knox status 0x1 and i had it replaced in warranty (by Orange Romania) for a faulty display.
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well i see that i am not voided knox cause i get before upgraded device to official state again. then its no problem.
the thing is i only wanted warn the rest before they upgrade to 4.3
cause i think when you upgrade with a device wich have custom state you will maybe receive a knox waranty void 0×1 after the upgrade.
cheers and have a nice christmass
Sent from my GT-I9506 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
xenix96 said:
well i see that i am not voided knox cause i get before upgraded device to official state again. then its no problem.
the thing is i only wanted warn the rest before they upgrade to 4.3
cause i think when you upgrade with a device wich have custom state you will maybe receive a knox waranty void 0×1 after the upgrade.
cheers and have a nice christmass
Sent from my GT-I9506 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Thank you.Merry X-Mas.
aresbv2000 said:
Dude...your knox warranty is ok.It should be 0x1 if is voided.
Do not root at this time.it will void your warranty.Wait for some knox friendly root method.Anyway...my i9505 had knox status 0x1 and i had it replaced in warranty (by Orange Romania) for a faulty display.
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Can someone link to the knox topic of i5906, thx.
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xenix96 said:
Currently downloading it .... i will see if Bootloader is locked/knoxed not dowgradeable ... will report you then
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Man...if you downloaded already the file...please upload it to mega or something else because terrafile.co kills me.I`ve been trying to download the file for about 2 days.I get an error everytime i try to download it."Unknown network error". Thank you.Merry X-mas!
Maybe someone can help me.I tried to flash the 4.3 image on my i9506 but odin fails it.Everything is ok until it flashes "hidden" then odin says "fail".Why and what can i do to fix that.The phone doesn`t boot anymore.thank you.
would this France 4.3 firmware work here in uk
you guys should not install the official 4.3 update if you care about root and custom ROMS in future, wait for custom ROMS instead without the crap KNOX
Sent from my GALAXY S4+
[email protected] said:
you guys should not install the official 4.3 update if you care about root and custom ROMS in future, wait for custom ROMS instead without the crap KNOX
Sent from my GALAXY S4+
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Which root you have?
RotteRotte said:
Which root you have?
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I'm still on 4.2.2 with root, I'm waiting for custom ROMs that I hope arrive soon for this phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
[email protected] said:
I'm still on 4.2.2 with root, I'm waiting for custom ROMs that I hope arrive soon for this phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
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This is an OK bootloader without problems?
RotteRotte said:
This is an OK bootloader without problems?
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yes, the problems comes with 4.3 on this phone. so better wait for 4.3 custom ROMs w/o the new bootloader.
[email protected] said:
yes, the problems comes with 4.3 on this phone. so better wait for 4.3 custom ROMs w/o the new bootloader.
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Its true what hes says ---> if you care Root dont Flash 4.3 Firmware!!!
I tested it.
If you root with 4.3 you got mass "Knox alert messages" in android !!!!! and you void Knox warranty to 0x1 in bootloader!!!!
The other thing you can not use anymore Heimdall or Odin(dont support 4.3 firmwares!!!!!) to flash anything on your phone also kies 2.6 you can not use anymore ..............have to update to 3.2 .... <--- everything tested!!
After i recognized theres nothing to do on this "super 4.3 firmware" i tried in terminal with abd shell dd commands to downgrade the Bootloader to go back 4.2.2 and what is the result ^^ -->
Phone is now hardbricked got only blackscreen nothing boots up !!! and i am using now a Nokia 3710 Fold till 30.12.2013 then i get rechanged my I9506 by a new one from servicecenter....
Again if you need root and dont want "knox warranty void" in your Bootloader STAY ON 4.2.2 !!!
Sorry for Caps
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aresbv2000 said:
Maybe someone can help me.I tried to flash the 4.3 image on my i9506 but odin fails it.Everything is ok until it flashes "hidden" then odin says "fail".Why and what can i do to fix that.The phone doesn`t boot anymore.thank you.
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Sure i can help you but you want really this 4.3 with "knox warranty void" in Bootloader ??
With odin and heimdall you cant flash 4.3 ... not supported!!
So if you dont care i can advice you how you update to 4.3 just do a post with text in it "yes help me please"
And dont blame if you want go back to 4.2.2 after updated to 4.3 .... cause its not possible by normal methods ... only with JTAG i think you can downgrade to 4.2.2 !!!
Also read here before you decide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45666586&postcount=1
Cheers
xenix96 said:
The results are attached!!!!
So stay on 4.2.2 if you dont want Konx Warranty void ****!!!!
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hello, have you found a solution to this? if you have please provide it, i got the same atm. Thanks
While on 4.2.2, try to flash in Odin only following 3 parts: boot (don't mess with aboot!!), cache, system. Don't flash any other parts.
There parts are enough to fully upgrade to android 4.3.
It's better to avoid flashing modem from 4.3 because it has KNOX enabled bootloader image inside and may update it at any time by itself.
Probably, you won't be able to boot android with stock boot.img because of LKM authentication, but you may try. It won't brick your device. If you won't flash any other (except these 3) parts, then you always can boot into download mode and flash 4.2.2 parts ad still don't have any KNOX mentions in download mode.
Most likely, you will need custom kernel (boot.img) in order to continue to use old bootloader with android 4.3.
sorg said:
While on 4.2.2, try to flash in Odin only following 3 parts: boot (don't mess with aboot!!), cache, system. Don't flash any other parts.
There parts are enough to fully upgrade to android 4.3.
It's better to avoid flashing modem from 4.3 because it has KNOX enabled bootloader image inside and may update it at any time by itself.
Probably, you won't be able to boot android with stock boot.img because of LKM authentication, but you may try. It won't brick your device. If you won't flash any other (except these 3) parts, then you always can boot into download mode and flash 4.2.2 parts ad still don't have any KNOX mentions in download mode.
Most likely, you will need custom kernel (boot.img) in order to continue to use old bootloader with android 4.3.
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Since i have no clue about what you mean by only flash three parts, i got one file and one file only, its a .md5. ho do i just flash some parts of it if even possible? and im not even sure i should flash that file since it's 4.3.
i would like to be pointed in the direction of a step to step help thingy, like i require this, and when i got it, do this. Thanks
I flashed 4.3 and rooted to get my secmms out then flashed 4.3 again via Odin and no problems. Well my knox warranty is void but I don't give a damn. Des will find something for that.
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hey rooters and devs is there a stable 4.4.2 root out right now for verzion without tripping knox?
i took the update to 4.4.2 and i cant even touch mu phone since it sucks makes random noises like a dot when clicking something.
Also, when will be able to start flashing custom roms or 4.4.2. i bricked my phone like 3 times since i didnt unlock the boot loader but now i can actually flash the roms.
TL,DR root for 4.4.2 without tripping know
when will we be able to flash cyanogenmod
broazny said:
hey rooters and devs is there a stable 4.4.2 root out right now for verzion without tripping knox?
i took the update to 4.4.2 and i cant even touch mu phone since it sucks makes random noises like a dot when clicking something.
Also, when will be able to start flashing custom roms or 4.4.2. i bricked my phone like 3 times since i didnt unlock the boot loader but now i can actually flash the roms.
TL,DR root for 4.4.2 without tripping know
when will we be able to flash cyanogenmod
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The only root exploit for VRUDNE1 4.4.2 that works on our phone is "Towelroot" by Geohot which is in the S5 section.
Once rooted, these things apply to everyone on VRUDNE1 4.4.2 as well as anyone on 4.3 VRUCML1 or VRUCNC1 OTAs:
a) You can NOT install a custom recovery (No CWM, No TWRP, nothing)
b) You can NOT install any AOSP rom
c) You can NOT install a custom kernel
d) Only an unofficial version of Safestrap can be used on VRUDNE1. This is not a custom recovery, Safestrap is NOT a custom recovery.
e) As of 8:50 EST, there is no custom VRUDNE1 TouchWiz rom to install. Safestrap hijacks the bootprocess and only uses the stock kernel, in your case stock VRUDNE1 4.4.2 kernel, in order to boot other custom TouchWiz roms. Only VRUDNE1 roms would be able to successfully flash on your phone. But none exist yet.
Literally all that you can do as of this post is root, debloat, install Safestrap, and hope that you will be able to use custom VRUDNE1 based TouchWiz roms.
back to 4.3
will i be able to odin back to 4.3 without tripping knox and locking the bootloader?
SlimSnoopOS said:
The only root exploit for VRUDNE1 4.4.2 that works on our phone is "Towelroot" by Geohot which is in the S5 section.
Once rooted, these things apply to everyone on VRUDNE1 4.4.2 as well as anyone on 4.3 VRUCML1 or VRUCNC1 OTAs:
a) You can NOT install a custom recovery (No CWM, No TWRP, nothing)
b) You can NOT install any AOSP rom
c) You can NOT install a custom kernel
d) Only an unofficial version of Safestrap can be used on VRUDNE1. This is not a custom recovery, Safestrap is NOT a custom recovery.
e) As of 8:50 EST, there is no custom VRUDNE1 TouchWiz rom to install. Safestrap hijacks the bootprocess and only uses the stock kernel, in your case stock VRUDNE1 4.4.2 kernel, in order to boot other custom TouchWiz roms. Only VRUDNE1 roms would be able to successfully flash on your phone. But none exist yet.
Literally all that you can do as of this post is root, debloat, install Safestrap, and hope that you will be able to use custom VRUDNE1 based TouchWiz roms.
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broazny said:
will i be able to odin back to 4.3 without tripping knox and locking the bootloader?
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No, you can not downgrade once on 4.4.2 VRUDNE1.
thank you very much, do you know when the devs will be able to find a way to downgrade or unlock the bootloader
SlimSnoopOS said:
No, you can not downgrade once on 4.4.2 VRUDNE1.
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broazny said:
thank you very much, do you know when the devs will be able to find a way to downgrade or unlock the bootloader
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I'll be blunt with you, I sincerely doubt that's being actively worked on for our 2 year old device. The bootloader has yet to be unlocked on the S4 which has had an active bounty with numerous devs so its not happening here. If AOSP means that much to you, sell your S3 for a bootloader unlocked S3 or get another device which has less hurdles to get AOSP.
Edit: Or you can email these guys at MobileTechVideos and see if their S3 bootloader downgrade process works on 4.4.2. It is a paid service either way, but some people have considered this when on 4.3.
SlimSnoopOS said:
I'll be blunt with you, I sincerely doubt that's being actively worked on for our 2 year old device. The bootloader has yet to be unlocked on the S4 which has had an active bounty with numerous devs so its not happening here. If AOSP means that much to you, sell your S3 for a bootloader unlocked S3 or get another device which has less hurdles to get AOSP.
Edit: Or you can email these guys at MobileTechVideos and see if their S3 bootloader downgrade process works on 4.4.2. It is a paid service either way, but some people have considered this when on 4.3.
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Is there any successes to this downgrade of the bootloader of the link that you sent? I'm not on a s4 I'm on a SCH-I535 sgs3 same as s4 if I'm correct.. Correct me if I'm wrong s4 and s3 have a lot of the same stuff
jcbjoe said:
Is there any successes to this downgrade of the bootloader of the link that you sent? I'm not on a s4 I'm on a SCH-I535 sgs3 same as s4 if I'm correct.. Correct me if I'm wrong s4 and s3 have a lot of the same stuff
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I haven't seen anyone report back on having used this. I figured someone would have done so and posted on xda but, nothing. That link is for the Verizon S3 btw. The S4 was mentioned just for comparison purposes only.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
SlimSnoopOS said:
I haven't seen anyone report back on having used this. I figured someone would have done so and posted on xda but, nothing. That link is for the Verizon S3 btw. The S4 was mentioned just for comparison purposes only.
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Tapatalk 4
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I originally saw it on XDA. Josh inadvertently reverted one while doing a JTag service. He was able to reproduce it several times in testing. Most don't even know about it till they brick their device and need JTag service.
hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
Under_Doge said:
hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
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You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
Under_Doge said:
Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
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You can flash back to kitkat and then upgrade with flashfire to stock rooted lollipop.
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Really, and how is that done. I have an S5 on AT&T running 5.0, phone was replaced through warranty for a newer version of the S5.
Towelroot didn't even work on my phone when it was on 4.4.2 through 4.4.4
So if there is any that you know how to root my phone, please let me know because I've been looking for a working root since I obtained the phone.
Hello everybody
I want to upgrade to Android 5.1.1 without tripping KNOX. Is there a way to upgrade via FlashFire? I heard that is not possible because the new bootloader has a write protection (only downgrade is not possible anymore).
My current rom is G920FXXU1AOE3 rooted with PingPong-root.
Thanks in advance
Saafir said:
You can unroot and upgrade without tripping knox. Although the only working root method for 5.1 is a slightly modified stock kernel (to my knowledge) which in turn will trip your knox. And yes, you're correct, once upgraded to 5.1 you cannot downgrade without special equipment.
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I thought so. Hmm what if I try to flash the full stock firmware G920FXXU2BOFJ (DBT) over FlashFire with the EverRoot option and flash the bootloader via Odin?
Saafir said:
I can't answer that with certainty but sounds good in theory. Awfully risky shot in the dark though ;(
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Unfortunately it doesn't work. I'm stuck now on Android 5.1.1 unrooted ??
A downgrade doesn't work even if I repackaged the firmware file (with 5.1.1 bootloader and 5.0.2 system, kernel and modem etc). It stops while flashing kernel... ?
For those who failed to root, have a look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qL9qKbQa54 It helped me rooted my S6 with Android 5.1.1 and Knox is still OK
molanjami said:
For those who failed to root, have a look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qL9qKbQa54 It helped me rooted my S6 with Android 5.1.1 and Knox is still OK
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Your link is broken and i highly doubt it was legit.
There are still no known way to root in 5.1.1 without tripping the knox counter, sorry.
- Renolz
renolz said:
Your link is broken and i highly doubt it was legit.
There are still no known way to root in 5.1.1 without tripping the knox counter, sorry.
- Renolz
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Yes i also checked the video is no more on youtube . sorry folks
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
beforedenied said:
Hello Community!!
I have owned many androids over the years, and have recently got an S6, hoping to dive back into the game of rooting, modding and messing around until my phones works the way i want it to. There are MANY things that really Piss me off about my T-MObile variant of the S6, including the horrible battery life, bloatware, and lack of personality. I Really would love to root my device, but KNOX. OMG what is this?! If i Root, no Samsung pay? What other downsides are there to rooting? But recently, my phone installed "ANdroid Pay" SO I am thinking, I should just root, forget Samsung pay and just use Google pay or whatever they call it.
As you guys can tell from my sig, I have been very inactive on these forums. I am hoping someone can give me some advice here---
Thanks So much
EMilio
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There are pros and cons to root.
The first pro is limitless customizations and personalizations.
The first con is OTA updates get disabled.
Another pro is you are able to dramatically improve battery and overall performance using various apps.
Another con is your warranty will be void, assuming you tripped KNOX.
If you trip KNOX, Samsung Pay no longer works; if you have root (even without touching KNOX) Android Pay does not work.
I obtained root just to prove to myself it could be done.
Since then there have been dramatic improvements with speed and battery life.
Package Disabler Pro can freeze a lot of the bloatware without root: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro&hl=en
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
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XxLordxX said:
Hi,
It's a highly personal decision. I myself for the first time am holding on rooting - I was the one who made the most famous Xoom rooting tool and also S4 Linux Root Script, so that tells a lot. The thing is, meanwhile my device is satisfying my needs, and I'm really curious about Samsung Pay, as it has a way wider support than Android Pay and other systems.
The best thing about rooting in my opinion was the endless system customization - specially after Xposed was released. The way better data management I had, better system control and some exclusive apps that require root or works better with root. If you are really pissed about Samsung TouchWiz apps and system "features", rooting would be a nice idea. Just keep in mind that after rooting Knox will be tripped and there's no turning back with Knox. Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
Just adding what was already said, but Android Pay doesn't work with root.
All the best,
~Lord
Sent from my SM-G920I using Tapatalk
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Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
An android phone for me is worthless without root permissions. I need it for:
adaway adds
iptables (firewall)
better battery life (debloat)
titanium backup
JuanRamiro said:
Rooting doesn't allways mean tripped knox. I have my G920F rooted and knox intact. This can be done even after updrade to 5.1.1 stok firmware.
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I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
Iceman_jkh said:
I was only aware of root that can be applied before upgrade to 5.1.1.
Can you advise how you applied root after 5.1.1? Thanks.
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Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
JuanRamiro said:
Just install de 5.0.2 engineering bootloader via ODIN. Then instal TRWP via ODIN.
After this two steps you can flash whatever you want via TRWP.
Edit: with the 5.0.2 bootloader you will loose fingerprint scanner, the rest works great, at least with the custom rom I am using.
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Keep in mind this engineering bootloader does not work with all variants. For example there is no Eng Bootloader for the Canadian phones.
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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Iceman_jkh said:
Thank you both. I have the international SM-G920F (technically it's the dual Sim version, SM-G920FD, (from United Arab Emirates)).
So, to confirm, would the eng boot loader still work on my device variant, and allow root without tripping KNOX?
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Thanks. I did some additional research, thanks to your advice about eng boot loader, and seems like it will work ☺
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JuanRamiro said:
I have the single sim version of the G920F, so I don't know if it will work with the dual sim.
I don't think that it will strip you knox...
... and I think that if your phone doesn't work with this bootloader, you can just flash the correct one and make it work again.
But these are just guesses... you decide if you want to take the risk.
Good luck.
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Hi,
I wouldn't risk that "you can just flash the correct one and make it work again". If you know how a bootloader work, if it gets broken there is no way to get to Download Mode and flash a new firmware/bootloader.
For information sake, a bootloader is a piece of software that is the first thing loaded when you boot your device, it comes before anything, be it kernel, be it recovery or anything else, that means, if you have a broken bootloader, the moment you try to boot your device up, it will try loading BL and it will fail, so it will shut down back again. I've had a broken BL once before on S4, the only way to recover was a direct flash of software in system chip using a tool called JTAG.
So, all I can say to users who still didn't get it: beware with this. It seems that many people are getting successful results, but it's an extremely risk procedure, make sure you read every single instruction and follow it, the possibility of a hard brick is high.
Even still, it's a great find, thanks for sharing with me, I didn't know of this until early today .
All the best,
~Lord
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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Depending on your country, Knox trip also means warranty void, because once rooted you can unroot and make it looks like nothing happened.
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Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
coolmalayalee said:
Did you mean, once rooted we can unroot and install the stock firmware and hence tripped Knox will be restored as well?
Or the unrooting will only help to restore the stock but the knox will continue to remain tripped. I would like to know this as I am considering purchasing S6. The last samsung phone I owned was S2 and used that for 3 full years with out any problems.
Thanks.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Once Knox is tripped its tripped but, yes you can flash original firmware and as long as you factory reset it, it will be unrooted and ready for official updates.
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Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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Once tripped there is no going back. Voided warranty depends on laws of your country and your retailers policy.
coolmalayalee said:
Thanks. But can you be a bit more specific of if the unrooting, flashing stock, and factory resting will finally untrip the tripped Knox as well? My question in the event I need to take this back to a service center to claim warranty for whatever reason, is there any way for them to know that I have voided warranty if I unroot, flash back the stock and factory reset?
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YOU CAN NOT UNTRIP KNOX, you can reflash your firmware from Sammobile, http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-G920F/
use odin and then after you flash, go into recovery or use system settings and conduct a factory reset. It will say Official in the status but, since they will reflash your rom anyways, they will see the knox trip.
It depends on where you purschased your device whether or not they will warranty it with Knox tripped.
Honestly, anyone who roots should understand this information before hand. You should always know how to return to stock unroot.
Jameslwoodward said:
I wonder whether Samsung pay will work again after reflash stock rom after root? Is it like knox, once rooted you will never have it no mater what you do including going back to pure stock?
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After rooting my 5.1.1 without tripping Knox, with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader (as as described a few posts ago) I have flashed a stok rom with odin and then everything went back as it was before the rooting procedure.
1. I was on stok oficial rom with oficial bootloader.
2. I lost root.
3. Knox was still intact: 0.
4. Fingerprint scanner and MyKnox worked again.
So: after upgrade to 5.1.1, rooting with the 5.0.2 engineering bootloader seems to be safe and also easy to bo back to stock... at least for my model (G920F)