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Anyone else having this issues?

Anyone else having their phone over heat ?
Tomorrow will be my 3rd phone beacuse of overheating and i have one more replacement before i have to switch to a different phone.

What do you consider overheating and how are you measuring its temperature?
- ooofest

CovXX said:
Anyone else having their phone over heat ?
Tomorrow will be my 3rd phone beacuse of overheating and i have one more replacement before i have to switch to a different phone.
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NOT a known issue. The S III might get warm under a heavy load or charging a very low battery, but overheating? I'd look at the mods you've done to the phone. The ROM you flashed, the apps you're running... this sounds like a user error.

Roms?
I have cyanogenmod 10 nightly with jellybean 4.1.1 and I've been getting temperatures around 95-101 fahrenheit under pretty heavy use. From what I've found out, it seems normal.

If your in the 140 degree area, start investigating, if your 150+ start worrying. Other than that, don't worry about it.
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No over heating what so ever. On my s3. But I have seen one s3 b4. I from Sprint though. It was over heating from just talking on the phone.
U got any temp. Measurements?
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Do you know that these phones have CPU's that given certain stresses, will heat up quite a bit? That's why they are installed on metal frames and with thermal paste, so the phone can dissipate heat..
These aren't your ordinary dumb phones, these are portable computing devices too..
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My original S3 was getting a bit too hot to hold with a 2 bar 4G connection, surfing the web. Exchanged the phone using the 14 day return policy at the local verizon, and my new phone has no issues.

i mean like 120 + With little use. Im also using reborn battery widget to get the cpus temp. And my pc doesn't even get past 101 and that has 6 cores.

CovXX said:
i mean like 120 + With little use. Im also using reborn battery widget to get the cpus temp. And my pc doesn't even get past 101 and that has 6 cores.
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You realize that your PC likely has rather decent ventilation and actively controlled fans, yes?
120 F isn't really a cause for concern, IMHO. Above 140F consistently might be, though - could be the battery, actually.
- ooofest

No over heating here
I'm currently on CM10 nightly 9/18. No over heating here. Ever. I've had the phone since it was put on shelf.

[Q] Too low scores from benchmarks

I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.

Thermal throttle

Lethargy said:
Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?

msnnsm said:
Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.

The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...

Lethargy said:
By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:

msnnsm said:
I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...

eddiehk6 said:
Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.

No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.

Lethargy said:
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?

msnnsm said:
I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.

Lethargy said:
At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.

msnnsm said:
I don't care about score
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...

eddiehk6 said:
Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.

msnnsm said:
The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...

eddiehk6 said:
So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.

The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.

rootSU said:
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.

aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier

are benchmarks really that inaccurate

It seems to me the benchmarks are very inaccurate and inconsistent
I've been testing my lg g3 I do it every morning after the phone has sat idle overnight and I'll get benchmarks that range from 28k to 42k now to me that seems like a pretty big difference in numbers I'm using the latest version of antutu and like I said I do everything the exact same way. I'll charge the phone to full charge then let it sit over night idle then in the morning do a benchmark now just in my opinion I would think the benchmarks would be more consistent in scores or is it something else?

Robshr said:
It seems to me the benchmarks are very inaccurate and inconsistent
I've been testing my lg g3 I do it every morning after the phone has sat idle overnight and I'll get benchmarks that range from 28k to 42k now to me that seems like a pretty big difference in numbers I'm using the latest version of antutu and like I said I do everything the exact same way. I'll charge the phone to full charge then let it sit over night idle then in the morning do a benchmark now just in my opinion I would think the benchmarks would be more consistent in scores or is it something else?
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does the number getting lower everyday?

Common001 said:
does the number getting lower everyday?
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No one day it'll be 29k the next it'll be 41k and the next 38k varies everyday

Yup Don't believe blindly as they are just numbers. There's a great difference in theoretical and practical use ! One cannot just depend upon a phone with high benchmark scores,it will give you a high score if your ram usage at that moment is less thats why most of the time people just run benchmarks just after switching on the phone ! In daily usage score will always be less and can vary.Thats just normal. :thumbup:
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The apps running in the background greatly impact the result. Facebook alone takes off several thousand points.
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CPU Temperature

I’m looking for the CPU temp in Galaxy S7.
Anybody know what are the values in green and red box in the pic attached signify?
This pic is from AIDA64/CPUZ

The red must be CPU cores, or at least related to that. Have no idea about the green one.
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KoRoZIV said:
The red must be CPU cores, or at least related to that. Have no idea about the green one.
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Wherever I see in the forums people only talk about the value in green box and they think that device is relatively cooler even under heavy load. But gotta say man the device heats up worse than my G4 even in minor load when referring to the values in the red box as you said. I wanna know is there something up with my device alone. What does you CPU Temp. reading after about 15 mins of heavy game session like with 'NFS No Limits' in your device in AIDA64? PLease post a screenshot

I don't play games on the phone. I tried a few just to make sure the phone is OK when gaming but in 5 minutes I got bored.
My phone gets hot, 75 Celsius when updating several apps, or right after an OTA.
I think this is normal, as I changed the first phone ( display issue ) and both reached the same temperatures in similar situations.
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Also have a g4, that one gets hot more often than the s7.
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KoRoZIV said:
I don't play games on the phone. I tried a few just to make sure the phone is OK when gaming but in 5 minutes I got bored.
My phone gets hot, 75 Celsius when updating several apps, or right after an OTA.
I think this is normal, as I changed the first phone ( display issue ) and both reached the same temperatures in similar situations.
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Also have a g4, that one gets hot more often than the s7.
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Oh! Thanks for the reply. This is the first time using glass/metal phone, maybe that's why I'm very sensitive to this problem. Is that a S7(flat)? Never had seen anything above 60C.

Yes, simple s7, not edge.
One time got very hot in my pocket, for no apparent reason.
But in battery stats I noticed that Google services percentages increased from 6 to 16, in about 20 minutes. This happens also on g4, about once or twice a week. It lasts from 10 minutes to a half hour, or I restart the phone and no more issues for a while.
It's hard to catch the s7 above 70 Celsius, I guess the cooling system does it's job really fast. We need an app to monitor and record temperature changes in the background. The only one I know about is CPU temp, but is not showing real CPU temperatures, it's fake.
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Got the same situation (temp around 65-70 degrees) especially when updating apps by play store. Its getting hot on the back near the camera. But when updating is done temperatures are very fast dropping to 30-40 degrees. I think it's normal for this kind of device, made from glass and metal. Would be greatful for more observations from you guys. Cheers.

KoRoZIV said:
Yes, simple s7, not edge.
One time got very hot in my pocket, for no apparent reason.
But in battery stats I noticed that Google services percentages increased from 6 to 16, in about 20 minutes. This happens also on g4, about once or twice a week. It lasts from 10 minutes to a half hour, or I restart the phone and no more issues for a while.
It's hard to catch the s7 above 70 Celsius, I guess the cooling system does it's job really fast. We need an app to monitor and record temperature changes in the background. The only one I know about is CPU temp, but is not showing real CPU temperatures, it's fake.
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Yeah, Most app in the place store aren't able to read the actual temperature from the S7. Maximum I've seen with those are 38C in ~20 min session of gaming. As I said haven't seen S7 anywhere near 70C but near 61C in AIDA64 but after ~20 min session of gaming. It does take about 5 mins to completely cool down. Don't know it's normal. Is it!?

koliberek1 said:
Got the same situation (temp around 65-70 degrees) especially when updating apps by play store. Its getting hot on the back near the camera. But when updating is done temperatures are very fast dropping to 30-40 degrees. I think it's normal for this kind of device, made from glass and metal. Would be greatful for more observations from you guys. Cheers.
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Thanks for the info. Sure will keep you posted. Are you also using AIDA64/CPUZ?

KoRoZIV said:
I don't play games on the phone. I tried a few just to make sure the phone is OK when gaming but in 5 minutes I got bored.
My phone gets hot, 75 Celsius when updating several apps, or right after an OTA.
I think this is normal, as I changed the first phone ( display issue ) and both reached the same temperatures in similar situations.
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Also have a g4, that one gets hot more often than the s7.
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ooh! what game was that?

Sheryl John said:
Thanks for the info. Sure will keep you posted. Are you also using AIDA64/CPUZ?
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Yes, I'm using cpuz.

KoRoZIV said:
I don't play games on the phone. I tried a few just to make sure the phone is OK when gaming but in 5 minutes I got bored.
My phone gets hot, 75 Celsius when updating several apps, or right after an OTA.
I think this is normal, as I changed the first phone ( display issue ) and both reached the same temperatures in similar situations.
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Also have a g4, that one gets hot more often than the s7.
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koliberek1 said:
Got the same situation (temp around 65-70 degrees) especially when updating apps by play store. Its getting hot on the back near the camera. But when updating is done temperatures are very fast dropping to 30-40 degrees. I think it's normal for this kind of device, made from glass and metal. Would be greatful for more observations from you guys. Cheers.
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As you can see from all the below linked videos, the temperature never crosses 40C in any testing under heavy load. But how can we get 60C, 70C and all. They are even saying device isn't much hot. How is that even posssible?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VYrhJAlxQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXztRcfmZSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rTk0WuWpUY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKn0rvUkhPE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIt9-EuYKcQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB4ZFREcdCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE-L4kcohgM

I have no idea what and how they tested, the fact is that mine got very hot a few times. I only check temps when I feel the phone hot, and that was only when updating some apps, right after the OTA restart.
The temps from a gun are going to be lower than the core sensor reading. Always.
Is this gun any good for external testing ? I almost bought it
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KoRoZIV said:
I have no idea what and how they tested, the fact is that mine got very hot a few times. I only check temps when I feel the phone hot, and that was only when updating some apps, right after the OTA restart.
The temps from a gun are going to be lower than the core sensor reading. Always.
Is this gun any good for external testing ? I almost bought it
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Bought it online? Check the reviews.

Didn't bought it, I've seen it in some store and took a photo
It's about 20 euro's.
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KoRoZIV said:
Didn't bought it, I've seen it in some store and took a photo
It's about 20 euro's.
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Seems like a local item. May not give you accurate readings but it's up to you. If you want a good one try Amazon.

koliberek1 said:
Got the same situation (temp around 65-70 degrees) especially when updating apps by play store. Its getting hot on the back near the camera. But when updating is done temperatures are very fast dropping to 30-40 degrees. I think it's normal for this kind of device, made from glass and metal. Would be greatful for more observations from you guys. Cheers.
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KoRoZIV said:
Yes, simple s7, not edge.
One time got very hot in my pocket, for no apparent reason.
But in battery stats I noticed that Google services percentages increased from 6 to 16, in about 20 minutes. This happens also on g4, about once or twice a week. It lasts from 10 minutes to a half hour, or I restart the phone and no more issues for a while.
It's hard to catch the s7 above 70 Celsius, I guess the cooling system does it's job really fast. We need an app to monitor and record temperature changes in the background. The only one I know about is CPU temp, but is not showing real CPU temperatures, it's fake.
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Here are something based on my recent tests and findings,
The problem is when the device is under heavy load(NFS No Limits game). therm_zoneX values goes upto 61C, which I don't care if the device is still not much hot to hold in hand but it isn't. Compared to my LG G4 it gets hot soon for the same amount of load based on my tests. And makes me unpleasant of the fact that the I can't enjoy the amazing performance of gaming in this phone not even longer when compared to the HTC & LG phones I had. Even simple tasks like switching between Whatsapp and Tapatalk in the background for almost 5 min made the device unusually warm while there isn't anything else heavy running in the background. All these is considering the fact that my room temperature isn't very hot. What is your opinion?
I think the below attached images(4) will help you understand it better on the temp. variations on various tasks and where do I feel it warm/hot. I strongly believe it's unusual based on my experience in previous 5 years with various devices. Do you observe something similar. Please have a look.
PS: The NFS No Limits temp. readings were similar to someone who posted in the different thread.

Is 34°C on average/light use good?
36-37°C when updating apps and using the phone at the same time

antutu on oreo scores bad...

im getting score of 140-162K while on youtube i see people can reach up to 172-180K
is my phone faulty or oreo has a lower score?

madshark2009 said:
im getting score of 140-162K while on youtube i see people can reach up to 172-180K
is my phone faulty or oreo has a lower score?
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for me nougat scored 180k while oreo goes only 166k

madshark2009 said:
im getting score of 140-162K while on youtube i see people can reach up to 172-180K
is my phone faulty or oreo has a lower score?
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Hi mate,
I remember getting around 176k before Oreo and 180k after Oreo.
These scores can be affected by a number of factors my friend. If you test it while the phone is low on battery while having plenty of apps running it will naturally give you a low test score.
Test it when your battery is almost full and try to leave the phone to cool off after charging then test it once again. Keep your WiFi, location, Bluetooth and mobile data off to get the highest reading.
Keep in mind that if you perform the test repeatedly the battery will get warmer and the score will gradually decrease.
I personally tested my phone once or twice then deleted the antutu app straight after. It may consume your battery life or pose a privacy threat if you keep it running.

When using Antutu I leave my phone off for around 10 minutes until it gets cold and then when I turn it back on and go to do the benchmark I put it in aeroplane mode. All my scores since the Oreo update have been just over 180k.

Oreo

Stock ROM, no tweaks, locked bootloader, no root. Personally liking Oreo (Bluetooth issues aside). My Antutu score seems average for an SD835 SOC.

If you desperately want a high score that means nothing then put the phone in the freezer and run the test

This is my score, one try with stamina mod and the second without (the highest is without stamina)

Its just numbers, doesnt really matter.

I dont care about analtutu benchmarks.
iphoneX scores great, and its slower than our xz premium in most REAL tests. (launching apps, multitasking etc)

179420
Android 8
Stock
Rooted with storm xperifix

I had 1 time 163k and 2 time 180k

184211 xz premium 8.49 stock with 79 app installed

madshark2009 said:
im getting score of 140-162K while on youtube i see people can reach up to 172-180K
is my phone faulty or oreo has a lower score?
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Are you used a stock rom ?