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[Q] Too low scores from benchmarks

I just got 17-18k on antutu. Stock rom,stock kernel. With elementalx kernel i can reach 27k but it is still bad for elemental x. What's wrong with my phone ? i flashed factory image again nothing changed also i just noticed when i underclock my cpu to 1.7 ghz i'm getting 28k on antutu.

Thermal throttle

Lethargy said:
Thermal throttle
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Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?

msnnsm said:
Thanks for your answer.Is it normal ? I just bought this phone. So is this same for all other people ? One of my friends told me he got higher scores. If it isn't a general problem how i can prevent thermal throttle ?
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By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.

The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...

Lethargy said:
By letting the phone cool down before the benchmark, or use a custom kernel which raises or disables it.
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I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:

msnnsm said:
I'm letting the phone cool down already. But it heats very fast during benchmark. I put it on fridge and i got 30k lol . Anyway there is nothing i can do.
Thanks for helping me :good:
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Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...

eddiehk6 said:
Why do you care about benchmarks in the first place......
Putting your phone in the fridge, then getting an AMAZING score...does it make your day? Does showing it off make you happy? It's not what the phone is primarily designed for....it has much more useful functions, you know like internet, email, calling, gaming, photos...
More importantly...imagine benchmarks didn't exist for a moment. Did your phone actually feel slow before you did all these 'tests'??? Did you need to get 30k before you felt happy? Does a 'lower score' completely ruin the actual day to day user experience...
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Firstly i don't need to tell you why i'm trying to get higher score but i will because you're talking too agresively with me without reason.I don't care about score. If every nexus 5 would be the same and get just 15k score including mine i would accept my phone with 15k. But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine. It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.

No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.

Lethargy said:
No. Your phone isn't heating up more. You're starting when the device is already warm.
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I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?

msnnsm said:
I'm pretty sure i'm starting it when it's cold. I didn't touch it for 15 minutes isn't it enough ?
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At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.

Lethargy said:
At least use an app to look at CPU temp ._.
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Hmm you're right. Do you know a good one ? I got 28.8k now with elemental x kernel with "Undervolt" feature. To be honest i don't know how much is normal for a nexus 5 device with this kernel.

msnnsm said:
I don't care about score
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Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
But others phones get higher and there is something wrong with mine.
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No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
It's getting hot more than others. So that's not like it should be.I hope you understood why i'm trying to fix it and sorry if my english isn't understandable.
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If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...

eddiehk6 said:
Yes do you, that's why you opened the thread..
The post sounds aggressive, but it's really trying to change the way you think about scores in the first place..
No, just because other people get highers 'scores' does not mean there is something wrong with your phone.
Before you started running 'tests', were you experiencing any actual issues?
If it's getting hot, is this because you're running unnecessary benchmarks...
Or any other activities which are causing it to get hot? This could be an app or hardware issue, both nothing to do with your benchmark. Are you comparing actual temperatures in degrees to identical phones doing exactly the same activities side by side, or does it just feel a bit warmer?
What I'm trying to say is your obsession with the score is causing you unnecessary stress...you are trying to fix something which does not need fixing.
So go back to the original thinking:
- Imagine scores don't exist
- Did the phone actually feel slow in day to day normal usage before you started running benchmarks?
Or:
- Stop running tests, forget about them
- Use the phone normally
- Enjoy using the phone again
Let...it...go...
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The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
In normal usage; yeah it is fast But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.

msnnsm said:
The first time run it i just wanted to see how my phone is powerful because i felt a little lag on asphalt 8 yesterday, so yes i wasn't expecting any issues but when i saw i got 17k i think that difference is just huge. I don't care if my device is same at gaming,multitasking with other nexus devices but benchmark makes me think it's not right.
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So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
You don't need a score to see how powerful your phone is. It will breeze through most tasks just fine. "A little lag" on a graphically intense game is to be expected sometimes.
Gaming -> High CPU load -> heat -> thermal throttle -> bit of lag
Laws of physics
In normal usage; yeah it is fast
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This is the only real 'benchmark' which is actually important in normal day to day usage.
But I'm not sure my device is how it's supposed to be like this. But if you say it's normal and benchmark's not meaning anything i won't care. But there should be a reason all devices got different scores.
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Yes there is a reason we all get different scores, the same reason we all get different battery life. There are many variables, not least temperature and thermal throttling.
We have different number of apps installed and running at any one time, things syncing, mods, scripts, ROMs, kernels, all different. No two CPUs and Nexus 5s are exactly identical either. So therefore you get different 'scores'. Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...

eddiehk6 said:
So it is sort of only the benchmark which is making you think something is not right
Even if you had two stock factory reset phones side by side running the same test, they'll get different scores.
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It doesn't make any sense
And just because your score is lower, it doesnt necessarily mean that something is wrong, or that your phone is always slow. It is just a nominal number from an app at a particular point in time. It still feels fast, and is fast...
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Okey, i trust you. Since i just bought phone and didn't test it much really i won't test it or try to improve it for now.

The way a phone works doesn't lend itself well to benchmarks. That's why manufacturers like Samsung have traditionally "cheated" on benchmarks by ensuring maximum clock speeds are used when they detect a bench marking application.
If you want to maximize your benchmark scores you simply need to disable thermal throttling (or increase its limit) and also use optimized Dalvik copied from another device.

rootSU said:
The other thing is to not care about benchmarks...
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This. Thermal throttle is a way to keep your phone regulated into normal temperatures specified by the device manufacturer. However, it's generally safe to raise it a bit, mine is set to 85.

aw man, its too bad i wasnt around earlier

are benchmarks really that inaccurate

It seems to me the benchmarks are very inaccurate and inconsistent
I've been testing my lg g3 I do it every morning after the phone has sat idle overnight and I'll get benchmarks that range from 28k to 42k now to me that seems like a pretty big difference in numbers I'm using the latest version of antutu and like I said I do everything the exact same way. I'll charge the phone to full charge then let it sit over night idle then in the morning do a benchmark now just in my opinion I would think the benchmarks would be more consistent in scores or is it something else?

Robshr said:
It seems to me the benchmarks are very inaccurate and inconsistent
I've been testing my lg g3 I do it every morning after the phone has sat idle overnight and I'll get benchmarks that range from 28k to 42k now to me that seems like a pretty big difference in numbers I'm using the latest version of antutu and like I said I do everything the exact same way. I'll charge the phone to full charge then let it sit over night idle then in the morning do a benchmark now just in my opinion I would think the benchmarks would be more consistent in scores or is it something else?
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does the number getting lower everyday?

Common001 said:
does the number getting lower everyday?
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No one day it'll be 29k the next it'll be 41k and the next 38k varies everyday

Yup Don't believe blindly as they are just numbers. There's a great difference in theoretical and practical use ! One cannot just depend upon a phone with high benchmark scores,it will give you a high score if your ram usage at that moment is less thats why most of the time people just run benchmarks just after switching on the phone ! In daily usage score will always be less and can vary.Thats just normal. :thumbup:
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The apps running in the background greatly impact the result. Facebook alone takes off several thousand points.
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Antutu Benchmark score (too low?)

Hi,
My Z5 barelly reaches 50000 Antutu score. Usually (depends on the temperature of a device) it is below 50000. I am running 64Bit version. I was expecting somewhere near 60000 (as have read in some press releases, reviews and since its HW is comparable with Galaxy S6)
What are your scores?

My score, this morning : 60883

seriously guys? benchmarking? lol.

I'll do a benchmark for your phone right now 58985
That will be just as accurate as those crappy benchmark apps
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My maximum score.

I get the same low score. I don't know why everyone seems to get above 6000.

just right now...no rebooting or anything....just installed antutu and ran the test....64bit "addon" was installed too.
Just found out....that makes the Z5 the fastest SD810 device! Whoohooo

Note 5 still rules hehehehe
This is my korean note 5 modded to a vietnamese from 920k to 920c still kicks ass hehehehe

Just ran the test on my Z5. Stock rom.
Score 67785
It means nothing. In everyday use my Z Ultra feels a lot smoother. Same apps, same Stamina options, same Android version, stock rom.

79k
Mine, 79K in a glass table at around 10 C degrees
E6603 telcel.
firts time i ran ( when i bought it) it scores 69k

monx® said:
seriously guys? benchmarking? lol.
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How to test hardware performance then?

Stan.z said:
How to test hardware performance then?
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You don't need to, if the phone is smooth and snappy during operation, that is your performance test.
These tests are garbage, too many things going on your phone in normal operation, so while you are testing your phone is still doing stuff in the background consuming resources.

My geek bench scores are low.

I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.

bhavinshah_321 said:
I am having an issue with my Galaxy S6. The videos I have seen online show that S6 achieves scores more than 5000 on multicore on Geek Bench. However not even once have I been able to achieve that. My Geek bench is 64bit edition.
Not that my device is slow or anything but just that I have never been able to achieve that score. I get an average of 4500.
Please help.
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Please no. You should keep yourself from doing that. Your device works fine.
Benchmark scores doesnt really scale well on day to day usage I guarantee that.
The main issue with low score in benchmark is DEVICE Temperature. The more heat it gets the lower the score.
Let me clear this thing up to you
You said that your device is not slowing down but got low scores in benchmark, that's because your normal usage of device doesnt push your hardware to its limits therefore you dont feel like it is crawling.
Benchmarking is different. It generally juices up your phone to its full capacity but thermal throttling comes into play, it is a safe-fail feature on device to prevent chips from getting fried. Its doing it by lowering the CPU/GPU clockspeed, the lower the speed, the lower the score you get.
But if you're desperate enough, you may achieve this thru cooling it first, mine gets 5.3k+ on multiscore at 23-25 airconditioned room. 4.5k average on room temperature, and a much lower score of 3K when I run it multiple times.

Oh okay. This is nothing to worry about right? Coz I read in one of the xda forums that this is coz there are some faulty units out there. And I voided my warranty with Unikernel. It was worth it. RAM issues and all.
Keeping it in a AC room I achieved scores beyond 5k.

See why worry if your device doesnt fail you at all hehe.
I dont know about you guys who keeps on relying with benchmark scores?
Live up with your device people. Just settle down and enjoy using it.

Haha yeah. Honestly if it wasn't for Unikernel I'd be pretty disappointed with this device. All lag and stutters gone and finally smooth scrolling. OK totally off topic questions.. Apparently this kernel has something called LED Fade. And I don't know how to make it work. Any help? My notification LED is still the same.

Honor 8 low on performance?

I've recently bought a honor 8, it's beautiful blazing fast as compared to my previously owned Xperia z1 but today I ran Antutu benchmark on this device and found that my score is really very unstable... I've seen couple of videos on YouTube doing their tests of Antutu on their honor 8 devices and their score comes out more than 88k but man my phone first got 71k followed by 79k followed by 65k....
I mean like is anyone else who knows what's going on? Please guys tell me what I am doing wrong is there some kind of performance mode or something? I am running nougat (7.0) and emui (5.0).

Check out this screenshot.

Do you have programs running in the background? Antutu scores seem to vary a good bit in my experience, but ~70K seems pretty low.

Pretty consistent over here on B380. Did you make sure no apps run in background etc. during testing? It does seem a little odd
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On B380 without restart the phone. I think result is good!

66k with no apps running in the background :|

victor1g said:
66k with no apps running in the background :|
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Fresh boot...

are you sure you have a Honor 8 ? why does your model not show ? why is your battery icon look like that ?
Sounds like you got power plan enabled or something , i'd do a factory reset or figure out the issue
b360 - l04 (USA)

Serpentdrago said:
are you sure you have a Honor 8 ? why does your model not show ? why is your battery icon look like that ?
Sounds like you got power plan enabled or something , i'd do a factory reset or figure out the issue
b360 - l04 (USA)
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Themes are a thing.

victor1g said:
Themes are a thing.
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Can you read ?
that doesn't explain the lack of model number in the screenshots
Good job pointing out the one thing i said that can be explained ! congrats !

Just downloaded the app and did the test with no reboot or anything.

Got a better score than before, but still guys it 10k less than the average of all yours. Everyone is above 90k.

Holy crap now look at this... What should i make of this.. just few minutes after it. I won't say the hardware has issues but it's just too unstable..

charge the phone. let it cool down. test it. last 2 results were due to low battery throttle. u had 10-15% left. obv, performance will drop. it also depends in which mode u're running ur phone and whats running in the back. in the end, antutu is usually unreliable. check if you get consistent results with geekbench, when the phone is charged. honor should be around 92k on emui4.1 and 94k on 5.
you should NEVER bench (if you actually want to get good scores) while under 20% or on charger

sikica133 said:
charge the phone. let it cool down. test it. last 2 results were due to low battery throttle. u had 10-15% left. obv, performance will drop. it also depends in which mode u're running ur phone and whats running in the back. in the end, antutu is usually unreliable. check if you get consistent results with geekbench, when the phone is charged. honor should be around 92k on emui4.1 and 94k on 5.
you should NEVER bench (if you actually want to get good scores) while under 20% or on charger
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I do not think this is true. With 17% of the battery I got this score. Honor 8 does not gradually reduce by 20%?
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its a general statement. phones tend to behave weirdly when battery is low. yeah in my case it performs pretty much the same despite the %, however this might not be the case for everyone because current state of the os/apps is different from one individual to another, and it could affect the end result greatly. if he thinks his phone is faulty, he should deffo service it, however sudden drop in performance, doesnt necessarily mean the phone is damaged. these drops are common even on nexus devices +bench methodology is different from one individual to another so scores should obviously differ. yeah, 80k is not 92, BUT it can reach 80, meaning it has potential. that sudden drop from 80 to 60 means either the phone is really and i mean really rekt, or there is something else going on, which is definitely a result of stuff installed on his phone. simple factory reset and pure antutu score in that scenario will show the real picture.

sikica133 said:
its a general statement. phones tend to behave weirdly when battery is low. yeah in my case it performs pretty much the same despite the %, however this might not be the case for everyone because current state of the os/apps is different from one individual to another, and it could affect the end result greatly. if he thinks his phone is faulty, he should deffo service it, however sudden drop in performance, doesnt necessarily mean the phone is damaged. these drops are common even on nexus devices +bench methodology is different from one individual to another so scores should obviously differ. yeah, 80k is not 92, BUT it can reach 80, meaning it has potential. that sudden drop from 80 to 60 means either the phone is really and i mean really rekt, or there is something else going on, which is definitely a result of stuff installed on his phone. simple factory reset and pure antutu score in that scenario will show the real picture.
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Does this feel better ? wow man it worked a reset did the thing..

I was surprised so i did it again just to be sure, i think it's okay now rite? Emui5.0 ...

Serpentdrago said:
Can you read ?
that doesn't explain the lack of model number in the screenshots
Good job pointing out the one thing i said that can be explained ! congrats !
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Who are you even talking to?
The model number in everybody's screenshot is shown. You never once mentioned themes.
Drugs.

victor1g said:
Fresh boot...
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YOUR second post in this thread , first picture .....
Doesn't look like it has a model number to me ...
drugs ?