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Not all phones can be overclocked safely. Not all CPUs can handle overclocking. If you've ever overclocked a computer CPU, you'd know that no two CPUs are exactly the same.
Well, my Captivate heats up a lot, quickly. It heats up so much that the screen literally CRACKED. After using Screencast w/ Droid VNC, I've managed to backup with Titanium Backup and I'm ODIN flashing back to stock.
I'm trying to get it fixed by Samsung...
We'll see if I can say it's because of the phone overheating that I can get it covered (I didn't drop it for it to crack like that).
I know I'm warning overclockers, but the funny thing is, I didn't use an overclocked kernel (Cognition 3.04). This happened with stock speed!
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Not all phones can be overclocked safely. Not all CPUs can handle overclocking. If you've ever overclocked a computer CPU, you'd know that no two CPUs are exactly the same.
Well, my Captivate heats up a lot, quickly. It heats up so much that the screen literally CRACKED. After using Screencast w/ Droid VNC, I've managed to backup with Titanium Backup and I'm ODIN flashing back to stock.
I'm trying to get it fixed by Samsung...
We'll see if I can say it's because of the phone overheating that I can get it covered (I didn't drop it for it to crack like that).
I know I'm warning overclockers, but the funny thing is, I didn't use an overclocked kernel (Cognition 3.04). This happened with stock speed!
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First off wrong forum... Second off their is no way the phone could get hot enough to crack this glass unless it had defective regulation or the glass was damaged.
Gorilla glass is tempered in a special way, it is tougher then pyrex, thermal shock would not crack this glass.
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First off wrong forum... Second off their is no way the phone could get hot enough to crack this glass unless it had defective regulation or the glass was damaged.
Gorilla glass is tempered in a special way, it is tougher then pyrex, thermal shock would not crack this glass.
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"No way"?
It's not the gorilla glass. The glass is in fine condition. It's the digitizer/amoled screen under the glass. The heat comes from the CPU.
Plus, I'm not the first one:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Galaxy-S/Overheating-caused-Galaxy-s-screen-to-crack/m-p/643601
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"No way"?
It's not the gorilla glass. The glass is in fine condition. It's the digitizer/amoled screen under the glass. The heat comes from the CPU.
Plus, I'm not the first one:
http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/t5/Galaxy-S/Overheating-caused-Galaxy-s-screen-to-crack/m-p/643601
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Something is seriously wrong with any phone that could get that hot, My phone never breaks the mid forties, even while charging and tethering.
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Something is seriously wrong with any phone that could get that hot, My phone never breaks the mid forties, even while charging and tethering.
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Hottest I ever gotten was 114°F. And im at 1.4. Its gotten worst but that was at 1.6 and I let it freeze so I can drain the battery, but damb was ut hot
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As I said, not everyone's phone is the same. Yes, there is something wrong with my phone. That's why I'm sending it in.
If my phone was this bad without overclocking, other people may have not-as-bad phones where overclocking pushes it past its limit.
goob1284 said:
Hottest I ever gotten was 114°F. And im at 1.4. Its gotten worst but that was at 1.6 and I let it freeze so I can drain the battery, but damb was ut hot
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thats 45C so about the same as mine.
I don't remember what cognition version I was on when it happened, but I was tethering and fell asleep. Woke up when I rolled over onto my phone which was extremely hot. I know my heat safety control is working, shuts down normally about 115 F. But for some reason this time it didn't. I quickly opened it up, popped the battery out and started blowing in it. I couldn't even touch the battery at first it was so hot. So I can testify that sometimes craziness happens and can jack up your phone.
This is a fairly common problem with blackberrys I have heard stories about the phones getting insanely got and just frying the whole phone. My personal bet is on a problem with the cpu temperature regulation or something funny going on with the battery.
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Besides the unusual problem mentioned above, what other issues overclocking could cause to my captivate? Force closes? Freezes? Charge Deaths? Anything else? Anything REAL bad?
sorry for the newbie question...
ddoubt said:
Besides the unusual problem mentioned above, what other issues overclocking could cause to my captivate? Force closes? Freezes? Charge Deaths? Anything else? Anything REAL bad?
sorry for the newbie question...
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Cpu failure, true bricks.
Not really a need to oc right now, not worth the risk for me. Just bragging rights imo.
boborone said:
I don't remember what cognition version I was on when it happened, but I was tethering and fell asleep. Woke up when I rolled over onto my phone which was extremely hot. I know my heat safety control is working, shuts down normally about 115 F. But for some reason this time it didn't. I quickly opened it up, popped the battery out and started blowing in it. I couldn't even touch the battery at first it was so hot. So I can testify that sometimes craziness happens and can jack up your phone.
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Tethering was the culprit here. It seems Samsung's (and many mfr.) engineers didn't anticipate anyone would want to run the 3G and WiFi radios simultaneously as wireless tethering wasn't included in Android at the time. It produces tons of heat and uses battery by the gallon. The old open-source wireless tethering app needed for 2.1 had a battery temp indicator for this reason.
Overclocking is considerably less risky. If anything it will simply cut power to the unit at a threshold temperature before damage is incurred. The real risk of soft-bricking while overclocking comes from if an overaggressive clock setting is permanently saved before a crash, which is easily avoided with reasonable care.
Using an overclocking kernel (Suckerpunch ftw!) that also allows for undervolting helps diminish excess heat somewhat. I've run Stability Test and Neocore stress-tests for an hour each at 1.4GHz undervolted, reaching 45 degrees C with no issues. My typical use patterns seldom put that much load on the phone though, so I'm not worried.
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thats 45C so about the same as mine.
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i remember mine going upto 48 C.
diablo009 said:
i remember mine going upto 48 C.
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That's why we like to overclock our phones here in Winnipeg- helps keep us warm at night
You probably got drunk and dropped your phone
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I thought you bailed on the captivate cl?
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Wow that's serious; mine never really gets that hot though, even when I'm charging and using a lot of applications at the same time. It gets to around 44C max; ruccintg 1.2ghz.
But yea I think something might have been wrong with the phone; of course undervolting helps as well and Im' sure that's attributing to my phone staying cool 80 percent of the time.
I think it's more to so with the radios. My phone isn't very overclockable and it freezes long before the chip puts off heat. My phone gets hot running navigation and charging at the same time. it also has gotten hot with roms that suffer from battery drain. I doubt that the battery drain is ever cpu related.
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The phone would have froze up and crashed before hot enough to crack screen.
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clemmie said:
That's why we like to overclock our phones here in Winnipeg- helps keep us warm at night
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LOL......probably need all the heat you can get this winter my Canadian friend....stay warm!
MIT student proves by A + B that T-Mobile G2x has hardware issues related to overheating / shutdown / battery
http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-g2x-gingerbread-2-dot-3-3-shutdown-requiring-battery-pull-due-to-overheat
Let's share this and be social.
Here are some other references for this same post.
#OccupyLg
LG: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-g2x-gingerbread-2-dot-3-3-shutdown-requiring-battery-pull-due-to-overheat
XDA-Developers: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1433445
T-Mobile: http://support.t-mobile.com/thread/16431
I would assume a hot reboot would work as well if you don't want to install an app killer
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If you are having issues you need to post more info. Rom? Kernel? Certain apps can cause issues. If you need help ask. Posting a rumor by a "MIT" kid is not overly impressive to me. Egg heads over think things sometimes.
jcbofkc said:
If you are having issues you need to post more info. Rom? Kernel? Certain apps can cause issues. If you need help ask. Posting a rumor by a "MIT" kid is not overly impressive to me. Egg heads over think things sometimes.
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RG2X with Faux .47 and on .48 kernal. I am getting exactly what the IT guy described. Overheating during deep sleep while on charger. Non-OC'd with nothing major running in the background. Not even Setcpu or Juice Defender. I will assume this guy isn't on RG2X's rom nor on a MIUI rom. Maybe on Faux but I think it would be better to assume he is probably on 2.3.3/4 stock. Also he stated it was on two different phones that he did both of these tests we can assume it's not a rare thing. Noted it's not with every phone this happens but some for sure are getting dead phones upon wake. Because they die probably about half way during sleep by the time the person wakes up they only notice a dead phone that needs a battery pull. The heat is already gone so they wont notice the over heating. I actually felt my phone overheat on the charger so I can tell you what this guy is saying has some weight to it.
I shouldn't assume I should just read "We both a running stock lg g2x gingerbreads and have not tested it on any other roms"
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RG2X with Faux .47 and on .48 kernal. I am getting exactly what the IT guy described. Overheating during deep sleep while on charger. Non-OC'd with nothing major running in the background. Not even Setcpu or Juice Defender. I will assume this guy isn't on RG2X's rom nor on a MIUI rom. Maybe on Faux but I think it would be better to assume he is probably on 2.3.3/4 stock. Also he stated it was on two different phones that he did both of these tests we can assume it's not a rare thing. Noted it's not with every phone this happens but some for sure are getting dead phones upon wake. Because they die probably about half way during sleep by the time the person wakes up they only notice a dead phone that needs a battery pull. The heat is already gone so they wont notice the over heating. I actually felt my phone overheat on the charger so I can tell you what this guy is saying has some weight to it.
I shouldn't assume I should just read "We both a running stock lg g2x gingerbreads and have not tested it on any other roms"
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If (big if) the overheating observed is due to heat from the battery charging leaching into the phone, wouldn't a quick and easy fix/test be a piece of aluminum foil between the battery and the phone?
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I have no problems at all. Running CM7 Latest Kang / Faux .48 CM battery. The last few versions of Faux's kernel fixed the SOD. I have never done an exchange. I got my G2X the 1st week it was out. I have never had any problems at all once the phone was rooted. Only thing I have problems with is the screen bleed. I am not OCed at all just UVed. When the phone screen is off setcpu sets the cpu at 389min 503 max. I have no overheating problems. So if you have overheating I would say that your phone is broke, you need to lower the OC if you are OCing, or you have done something wrong with the software.
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I have no problems at all. Running CM7 Latest Kang / Faux .48 CM battery. The last few versions of Faux's kernel fixed the SOD. I have never done an exchange. I got my G2X the 1st week it was out. I have never had any problems at all once the phone was rooted. Only thing I have problems with is the screen bleed. I am not OCed at all just UVed. When the phone screen is off setcpu sets the cpu at 389min 503 max. I have no overheating problems. So if you have overheating I would say that your phone is broke, you need to lower the OC if you are OCing, or you have done something wrong with the software.
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Thanks for the report captain obvious.
I am glad your setup is fine. For those that are in stock configuration and non oc'ed yet experience these problems, they have probably come to realize that there is no support from tmobile or LG.
If the words "restart " or "shut down " during your tech support convo, you will be told to suck it up and wait for a software update. An update which will probably not come considering how many months has passed.
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Thanks for the report captain obvious.
I am glad your setup is fine. For those that are in stock configuration and non oc'ed yet experience these problems, they have probably come to realize that there is no support from tmobile or LG.
If the words "restart " or "shut down " during your tech support convo, you will be told to suck it up and wait for a software update. An update which will probably not come considering how many months has passed.
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FYI if it does it on all roms then its a hardware issue and software change wont fix it...
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I also had the dreaded sod at least once every couple of days.
However, after I installed eb kang with faux oc/uv profile with set cpu, I have had no problems since.
I guess its ymmv...
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No problems at all here with overheating or SOD. I have over 200 apps installed. And yes, I'm seriously still running stock Froyo.
The only problems I've had are sluggishness and freezing after disconnecting the USB (both computer and wall chargers.) I think it's an automatic sync thing, or possibly something reading my 10GB of music files on the SD.
Got mine the first week out too, but from Amazon.
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No problems at all here with overheating or SOD. I have over 200 apps installed. And yes, I'm seriously still running stock Froyo.
The only problems I've had are sluggishness and freezing after disconnecting the USB (both computer and wall chargers.) I think it's an automatic sync thing, or possibly something reading my 10GB of music files on the SD.
Got mine the first week out too, but from Amazon.
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I don't think anyone is saying this problem effects everyone. It's just with all the bad units out there with this problem, this is probably why it's happening. Right now I'm trying to run some profiles in setcpu to see if it improves my phones sleep. It's only been one day so I will see by the end of the week how this fares
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Cm7, morfic Trinity kernel, go launcher ex oc'ed to 1.4 ghz. Perfect! No issues!
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erikikaz said:
Thanks for the report captain obvious.
I am glad your setup is fine. For those that are in stock configuration and non oc'ed yet experience these problems, they have probably come to realize that there is no support from tmobile or LG.
If the words "restart " or "shut down " during your tech support convo, you will be told to suck it up and wait for a software update. An update which will probably not come considering how many months has passed.
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Posts like this post is the reason why the devs hate the G2X. Most if not all problems most of the time are with android. If you are not using setcpu to control the cpu by setting up profiles for screen on and off. Then you are missing out on what root gives you access to. My phone might have the same problem yours have with overheating but i will never see if because my phone is UVed and runs at a lower CPU speed when the screen is off. If you want to use my setcpu profile look at my last post.
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Things like this post is the reason why the devs hate the G2X. Most if not all problems most of the time are with android. If you are not using setcpu to control the cpu by setting up profiles for screen on and off. Then you are missing out on what root gives you access to. My phone might have the same problem yours have with overheating but i will never see if because my phone is UVed and runs at a lower CPU speed when the screen is off. If you want to use my setcpu profile look at my last post.
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The overheating is not a Android problem it's a LG doesn't know how to product test problem. All my other Android devices didn't have this problem. One did have an SOD problem that was fixed but I never had to deal with overheating. This is on LG not Google.
psychoace said:
The overheating is not a Android problem it's a LG doesn't know how to product test problem. All my other Android devices didn't have this problem. One did have an SOD problem that was fixed but I never had to deal with overheating. This is on LG not Google.
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My friends amaze 4g has it friends Samsung fascinate has it galaxy s 4g and my old g1 and mt3g had it...
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My friends amaze 4g has it friends Samsung fascinate has it galaxy s 4g and my old g1 and mt3g had it...
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I think the term overheating is thrown around too loosely here without more of a description. There's the type of overheating that causes our phones to shut off and stay off until the battery is pulled. There is also the type of overheating that occurs when you plug in an HDMI cable, which may or may not cause your device to die.
I'd assume those two types of overheating are the same, as they result in the same thing: dead device that won't turn on without a battery pull. And the phone gets hot as fsck. Hot as in you'd be scared to keep it in your pocket because (1) it'll burn your leg and (2) you are scared the battery will explode.
Those two types are overheating are different from your phone merely heating up upon use. I'm talking about charging the phone while navigating via GPS at full brightness or playing a graphically intense gaming. That magnitude of that heat is normal. And I'm guessing that's what all your devices have experienced.
And as all the devices get thinner, that battery's going to sit closer and closer to your hand, which equals more heat. And as the glass technology gets thinner (gorilla glass 2.0), your face will probably feel the heat to a greater degree as well.
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The overheating is not a Android problem it's a LG doesn't know how to product test problem. All my other Android devices didn't have this problem. One did have an SOD problem that was fixed but I never had to deal with overheating. This is on LG not Google.
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It's true, it's not android, it's LG.
And to all the people thinking that undervolting and underclocking your phone will fix everything, it won't. Android already underclocks the CPU when it's not in use. SetCPU does nothing in this instance. The only instance they'll see a difference is if they have some sort of rogue app that's maintaining a wake lock. You just can't beat terrible design (referring to the MIT guy's findings). Sometimes it'll work, sometimes you just lose.
LG majorly screwed up with this and I hope that their mobile efforts in the future fail for their lack of follow through.
I think I've avoided the charging SOD by accident....
I don't like the official LG charger since it uses a microUSB cable which I'd rather have as a spare on my computer..... so most of my charging is done with an old charger I just had laying around, which turns out to be 0.7a instead of 1.0a which the LG charger is, or on USB which goes through about 3 different hubs so probably has little power left by the time it gets to the phone.
Sure, charging is a bit slower, but that probably prevents some of the overheating.
Lesson: If you're having overheating during charging, dig through all your old chargers and find one with a lower output rating. Use the higher output ones only if you're in a hurry to charge.
Just wanted to say that this thread has been really helpful to me. Every time I've flashed a custom kernel, my phone has always, within the first 2 nights of installation, turned off in the middle of the night while on the charger. So I've always been stuck with the stock kernel. But then the suggestion to use SetCPU to lower the speed while the screen is turned off worked for me. So far no SOD and my phone has survived Faux's kernel and charging overnight without a battery pull and without overheating.
Now I can try out custom kernels and find all new ways to destroy my battery by doing things I'm not knowledgable enough to be doing!
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I think I've avoided the charging SOD by accident....
I don't like the official LG charger since it uses a microUSB cable which I'd rather have as a spare on my computer..... so most of my charging is done with an old charger I just had laying around, which turns out to be 0.7a instead of 1.0a which the LG charger is, or on USB which goes through about 3 different hubs so probably has little power left by the time it gets to the phone.
Sure, charging is a bit slower, but that probably prevents some of the overheating.
Lesson: If you're having overheating during charging, dig through all your old chargers and find one with a lower output rating. Use the higher output ones only if you're in a hurry to charge.
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hmm.. I dont doubt you, but I think doing that would not be any different.
BECAUSE, the charger is not constantly charging at 1A rate. If you notice, the phones ramps down the input current after a certain percentage ~90%, and trickles it up to 100. Once at 100, the charging is supposed to be stopped. I've charged mine with my bluetooth 500ma charger, and I didnt see a difference in heat temps; only charging time took longer.
As far as heat, Lion batteries should be able to handle 1C charge (1 x charge capacity) with no problems in heat. That means even at 1.5A charge, it should be OK.
Regarding overclocking, undervolting and overheating. There is a variation of parameters across every silicon wafer; among the 25 or so wafers in a wafer lot; and from wafer lot to wafer lot. This is referred to as the "spread" and parts at the extremes are called "corner parts". Most parts should be in the middle of things, not all. With newer parts and small silicon process geometries, the margins are typically smaller - hopefully improving as the fab gets experience with the new process.
A hardware developer should get corner parts to check their PCBA layout and FW, to see if they have design margin. In the case of DDR (RAM), the voltage, circuit layout and DDR interface timing (from Tegra, in this case) should be checked across some tolerance and with the corner parts. "Fast" parts can draw more current during operation that nominal parts, possible heating up the voltage regulators nearby.
In a good hardware design, everything should work across part variation and the specified operating temperature for the system. When we start playing with the clocking frequency and voltages, there is the risk of FW crashing and HW flipping out. The symptoms can include system shut down (lost), resets, heating, bad effects on other systems (battery, voltage regulator circuits, etc.).
This is why some of us (like me) have little luck Set CPU and others can change it to extreme. What none of us know is how close to the design limits the G2X is - the system and the components like Tegra, the FW control. If due design diligence was not done, the sensitivity to part variation and our hacking is greater than normal.
Ugh, if there's one thing that annoys me more than anything else, it's the phone getting warm/hot.
If anyone wants to humor me and try this I'd really appreciate it. I want to get an idea of what other users phones are reporting temperature wise.
To get a good idea, if you will, download "batter monitor widget" and/or "system panel lite" from Google Play and use the browser for 5 mins and then use the XDA app for 5 mins and state what your temp is Fahrenheit. Thanks so much to those who try it.
I relocked the bootloader last night and flashed the 1.85 ruu and did all the unlocking and rooting. By the time I was done my phone showed a temp of 104. That seems too hot to me. I'm afraid that if it gets that hot regularly that the battery life will eventually take a hit.
P.S. You can also find the temp by calling *#*#4636#*#* and clicking on battery information.
After 15 minutes of playing Dungeon Hunter 2 I'm at 102.4F.
Do you want this done on wifi or cellular data? Using the cell radio will task the battery more than the wifi...
UPDATE: using cellular data on ics browser plus and xda app. After minutes of each, temp is 87 Fahrenheit. Maybe you have a dud? Mine doesn't usually get hot unless I'm playing a graphically intensive game
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Do you want this done on wifi or cellular data? Using the cell radio will task the battery more than the wifi...
UPDATE: using cellular data on ics browser plus and xda app. After minutes of each, temp is 87 Fahrenheit. Maybe you have a dud? Mine doesn't usually get hot unless I'm playing a graphically intensive game
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The hottest mine got was 86 f
Watching a movie on netflix is over 100. Seems normal to me with those temps regardless of what your doing since mobile data is active or wifi
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In my experience with high end androids this is about normal if CPU is working hard. Seen mine 100+ a few times.
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I test mine with wifi on. I noticed it makes a difference if the room temperature is really warm i.e. no AC or fans. If it's really cool my will stay in the 80's but if it's mid day and it's like 85 outside and around 80 in the house I will notice just by browsing that it can reach about 95 almost every time.
I took one phone back already because I thought it was getting too warm but I'm on my 3rd One X now and all three have had the same temps overall so I'm thinking either I got three bad phones all with heating issues or it's normal.
I have OCD and see a psychologist and I mentioned to him about how I might be just obsessing and he told me that I WAS and to just stop thinking about it. He said that devices do get warm with use and any temp, even around 100, is normal for a smart phone because of the processing it does. He told me to take a look at his mac and see what the internal temp was and it was like 120 just after sitting idle.
I probably shouldn't have made this thread because most likely it looks like I'm just seeking reassurance, but I was curious to what other temps you guys were getting. Hopefully it would set my mind at ease.
P.S. I bothers me because we spend so much on these phones that I want one as close to perfect as I can get. If I see that I'm the only one with temps like 85-99 just from browsing for 10 mins or so then I know there is something wrong. On the other hand I wish I could just forget about it and use the phone normally.
These temps are well within the normal range. I have had the pleasure of owning about 10 phones in the last two years, all high end android phones. The heat dissipation of this phone is excellent compared to the international Galaxy S 2 HTC Infuse, Motorola Atrix and so on. Sadly there is no perfect phone but this is the closest you're going to get for now
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These temps are well within the normal range. I have had the pleasure of owning about 10 phones in the last two years, all high end android phones. The heat dissipation of this phone is excellent compared to the international Galaxy S 2 HTC Infuse, Motorola Atrix and so on. Sadly there is no perfect phone but this is the closest you're going to get for now
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Playing music, screen on and GPS running in the sun, my phone hit 130F
robstunner said:
Playing music, screen on and GPS running in the sun, my phone hit 130F
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Wow
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Heat is Li-Ion's biggest enemy. You are right to be concerned. Anything over 86 degrees F is wearing down the electrolyte.
Humidity and ambient temp have a lot to do with the ability to get rid of heat. Just asking what temp a phone reaches after 5 minutes of some activity doesn't really give enough info. Ambient temp should also be posted along with results, and humidity if available. Altitude/air pressure also has an effect on getting rid of heat(should be minimal unless you are comparing sea level vs 5000 feet).
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Heat is Li-Ion's biggest enemy. You are right to be concerned. Anything over 86 degrees F is wearing down the electrolyte.
Humidity and ambient temp have a lot to do with the ability to get rid of heat. Just asking what temp a phone reaches after 5 minutes of some activity doesn't really give enough info. Ambient temp should also be posted along with results, and humidity if available. Altitude/air pressure also has an effect on getting rid of heat(should be minimal unless you are comparing sea level vs 5000 feet).
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I don't think I've seen a One X yet get below 86 after use.
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My s3 gets hot so fast. I'll be looking at tweets or browsing pulse and BAM. I don't even want to hold it, its so hot. Yes I am on a custom ROM, cm10 to be specific but this happens to me on stock as well. My governor setting are default for the rom, no custom kernels installed. What do you guya recommend? Should I return it and will vzw accept it?
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How hot is it getting? Actual temps I mean.
Install system tuner and that will give you cpu temps. I can't think off hand of any apps except wifi tether for root users that will give you a battery temp.
Before I got a case I thought my phone was getting way too hot, turns out it was no where near dangerous levels but it was hotter than other phones I've had. It's just a thing with the S3.
I'm not sure what could be wrong but just want to throw in that my phone does not get hot at all, it doesn't even get a little warm, and I use my phone quite a bit, pulse is one of my favorites, I play a couple games etc. I am stock but was running CM10 and my phone never got hot.
Sorry I couldn't help just wanted to let you know that simply using your phone shouldn't make it hot, not sure why yours is like that.
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What temperatures are in the "redzone" as far as the phone's safety. I'm Overclocked and will sometimes get up to about 120F, but have seen it get as high as 130 before.
To the OP, can you give us any numbers? I use System Tuner to find out mine.
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I'm not sure what could be wrong but just want to throw in that my phone does not get hot at all, it doesn't even get a little warm, and I use my phone quite a bit, pulse is one of my favorites, I play a couple games etc. I am stock but was running CM10 and my phone never got hot.
Sorry I couldn't help just wanted to let you know that simply using your phone shouldn't make it hot, not sure why yours is like that.
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The 4g is one of the biggest culprits for heat. My phone heats right up if I'm tethering or downloading directly. And I imagine there's a lots of back and forth data with Twitter along with the other browsing he mentioned.
noingwhat said:
What temperatures are in the "redzone" as far as the phone's safety. I'm Overclocked and will sometimes get up to about 120F, but have seen it get as high as 130 before.
To the OP, can you give us any numbers? I use System Tuner to find out mine.
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Those temps are fine. If I have my phone plugged in and tethering I've seen low 150s. I usually try to cool it down at that point but just so it won't go higher. I've been told that 160f shouldn't hurt it.
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Those temps are fine. If I have my phone plugged in and tethering I've seen low 150s. I usually try to cool it down at that point but just so it won't go higher. I've been told that 160f shouldn't hurt it.
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Awesome! Thanks! My old laptop would often get up to almost 200, in fact it would idle around 180, but I was pretty sure the phones would withstand far less due to the fact that it is in a much smaller package and that there is no heatsink, I just wasn't sure how high it can go.
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Awesome! Thanks! My old laptop would often get up to almost 200, in fact it would idle around 180, but I was pretty sure the phones would withstand far less due to the fact that it is in a much smaller package and that there is no heatsink, I just wasn't sure how high it can go.
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A CPU is a CPU pretty much. The heatsink just helps keep the temp down. Equivalent of taking the back of our phone and putting a fan on it almost.
Critical temp is around 180. Our phones will automatically shut down
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Lol kindve dangerous if your not careful but I put my phone in a airtight zip lock back and ran cold water on the outside, cooled down pretty quickly. Dont let water touch the zip part of course, but maybe another option.
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How hot is it getting? Actual temps I mean.
Install system tuner and that will give you cpu temps. I can't think off hand of any apps except wifi tether for root users that will give you a battery temp.
Before I got a case I thought my phone was getting way too hot, turns out it was no where near dangerous levels but it was hotter than other phones I've had. It's just a thing with the S3.
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Thanks for the tip! i've been having the same concerns. I'll be downloading the system tuner software to keep an eye on the heat.
Noticed change to phones ability to take a charge
I had my phone get quite hot the other day after I switched to cleanrom 6.5 and now the phone doesn't want to take a charge like it did before. Could that be some indication of some damage done?
I didn't have the frame of mind to check the temp at the time. It was noticeable hot though. Even through the case.
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Lol kindve dangerous if your not careful but I put my phone in a airtight zip lock back and ran cold water on the outside, cooled down pretty quickly. Dont let water touch the zip part of course, but maybe another option.
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I would advise against that. at the very least use room temp water, not cold. sudden temp changes are never good. could induce cracking in the glass or other components
Hey guys, Im new to XDA but i have a quick question for all nexus 5 owners. Okay i was just wondering if anyone else's Nexus 5 gets hot. I remember my nexus 4 would get so hot i couldn't touch it. I haven't had that kind of heat from my nexus 5, but it is there and i do notice it. It gets hot near the camera on the back, and it gets hot on the front at the top of the screen. I have a CPU temp monitor running on my device to check if my device is running to warm. I found it averages/hovers around 50 degrees celsius. When i open chrome and do some light browsing it goes up to 60 degrees. So my question is.. Is anyone else noticing their phone gets hot? And does anyone have a cpu temp monitor running and could you let me know how hot your phone is running at?
Thanks
Mine gets hot after a fair amount of time of gaming. Nothing terribly uncomfortable, but noticeable nonetheless.
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Yeah mine is warm after just 5 minutes of normal usage non-gaming situations. Not hot but warm. Its starts to get hot to the touch after 15 minutes of heavy usage (ie. Browsing, gaming, etc) . I don't know if this is worth calling Google about and having them replace it, or is everyone's phone like this and I just need to get used to it?
I gotta stop reading on this forum the more more I read about this phone its make me not want it does all the things my Galaxy Nexus does. too not while browsing the internet. Low speaker volume. No flash. Questionable battery life. Might go iPhone...smh
Chrome is the problem. Its resource heavy for no ****ing reason.
I've been using chrome and my phone doesn't work hard at all with the same amount of browsing and tabs I always have open.
So its not the phone. You can expect it to get warm when doing CPU intensive stuff. Gaming would be it. But not hot.
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Might go iPhone...smh
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Ew no
guess what. youre using a 2,3ghz quad core device, ots gonna get hot when you use it. and itll cool down quick when you arent using it. thats how its supposed to be, thats how it works.
Okay i think it might be chrome as well. When playing temple run, my device only got to 58 celsius. But when browsing on chrome my device went up to 68 celsius. So now I'm thinking its just chrome?
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Okay i think it might be chrome as well. When playing temple run, my device only got to 58 celsius. But when browsing on chrome my device went up to 68 celsius. So now I'm thinking its just chrome?
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As the other person stated - Chrome is a resource hog and definitely is part of it. Fully utilizing Google Now with the voice search activated (*okay Google*) can definitely do it. Try Chrome Beta, it's much better.
Does it get too hot to the point it won't charge? That what pisses me off most about my g-nex
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i think its normal for the 'warm' touch at the back, it doesn't get quite as hot as the nexus4 becuase of the glass backing
i use tempMonitor app, i get around 47c cpu temp when its warm
im running r12 franco kernel UVing to 920mV at 1.95max ghz
Im using TempMonitor as well. When under normal circumstances (i.e. texting, calling, etc) my phone is running at 45 celsius. But it gets hot as soon as i go online or play a game for like 3-5 minutes. Im sure it must be chrome then. I understand the gaming part and how the processor works, but i didn't realize chrome was that bad. Ill try chrome beta. Anyone else know what temperature there cpu'c are running at?
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Im using TempMonitor as well. When under normal circumstances (i.e. texting, calling, etc) my phone is running at 45 celsius. But it gets hot as soon as i go online or play a game for like 3-5 minutes. Im sure it must be chrome then. I understand the gaming part and how the processor works, but i didn't realize chrome was that bad. Ill try chrome beta. Anyone else know what temperature there cpu'c are running at?
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my cpu is anywhere between 0C and 89C, depending what im doing with the phone. its normal to get hot, especially when doing something taxing. itll get hot, but itll cool down fast when the work is done. thats how its supposed to work. anyone complaining that device cpu temp is hot at 65C just doesnt know any better.
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my cpu is anywhere between 0C and 89C, depending what im doing with the phone. its normal to get hot, especially when doing something taxing. itll get hot, but itll cool down fast when the work is done. thats how its supposed to work. anyone complaining that device cpu temp is hot at 65C just doesnt know any better.
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Lol well thats why I was asking and looking through the forums on XDA because I've never experienced a hot phone before. Im coming from the moto x which never got above 40C. That phone wasn't a snapdragon 800 though. I just wanted opinions of if it was just my phone or if everyones phone was like this. And if not should i send it in for replacement.
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Lol well thats why I was asking and looking through the forums on XDA because I've never experienced a hot phone before. Im coming from the moto x which never got above 40C. That phone wasn't a snapdragon 800 though. I just wanted opinions of if it was just my phone or if everyones phone was like this. And if not should i send it in for replacement.
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your phones normal
Put it in the fridge.
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my cpu is anywhere between 0C and 89C, depending what im doing with the phone. its normal to get hot, especially when doing something taxing. itll get hot, but itll cool down fast when the work is done. thats how its supposed to work. anyone complaining that device cpu temp is hot at 65C just doesnt know any better.
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I know that this is BS because my note 3 which has the exact same processor never goes above 38-39 degrees Celsius even if I'm gaming for over an hour. If you think 89C is normal you're crazy.
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So some people say its normal and some don't? Sigh. I hope everyone is talking about CPU temp, not battery temp.
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I know that this is BS because my note 3 which has the exact same processor never goes above 38-39 degrees Celsius even if I'm gaming for over an hour. If you think 89C is normal you're crazy.
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what i see in this statement is pure ignorance. human body temperature is 37C, youre telling me that your cpu NEVER goes more than 1-2C over human body temp, even while gaming? do you live in the antarctic?
your only saving grace will be if you meant battery temperature, not cpu temperature. 39-40C would be normal then.
It's very easy to get wrong temperature readings from sensors btw. Trying to find a good app that reads them properly is not.
Parts of the phone warm up quickly but luckily the bottom bezel area does not.