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My New Desktop Dock

So I decided to go through the pain of 10 days plus delivery from Hong Kong and ordered this off eBay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....46602&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_1849wt_1137
And it is really really nice.
The phone sits securely and has a slot on the back for my second battery.
Certainly worth the £11 I paid for it. The only downside is that it does not take the phone with the case still on but to be fair I don't think any of them do.
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Kool phone what is it
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Macca2805 said:
Kool phone what is it
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Sent from my HTC Desire
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Errrrrrrrrrrrr
It's a Desire

Where does the cable plug in?
Edit: Disregard my question. I've just looked at the item on Ebay and see that it is a lot deeper than it appears in your pictures. They make it look quite flat as you cannot see the tapered bottom part.
Looks OK though

what is that green circle thing behind?

kmetek said:
what is that green circle thing behind?
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One of these
http://www.powerfreakz.com/product_evo2500.php

same as this?
HTC Desire Battery Extender Charger
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/143/RE_HTC_Desire&cat=631
don't feel paying 40 quid which is what 50€?

Nice....maybe should get one since I am in Singapore delivery should be shorter Hehe
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kmetek said:
same as this?
HTC Desire Battery Extender Charger
http://www.morpethmobiles.co.uk/proddetail.asp?prod=/143/RE_HTC_Desire&cat=631
don't feel paying 40 quid which is what 50€?
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I have used the ones that take AA batteries before. Apart from the limited capacity, they are also quite heavy and sometimes struggle to actually charge the phone (rechargeable AA batteries are 1.2 volts so 4 will only reach 4.8 volts output where the phone is looking for 5volts plus)
I wanted something lightweight, and not too bulky and that would fit inside my jacket pocket. I looked at loads of these things before I bought this one and they ranged in cost, size, weight and capacity. Some had 5000aH but were big and heavy. The really light ones however did not have enough capacity for a recharge of the Desires battery.
This thing gives me 2500Ah (the Desire has a 1400aH battery) and weighs 88g so has enough juice to recharge the battery at least once from flat in a day if not half again. It was £29 from Scan (Amazon have them as well)
Unfortunately I have no choice but £30 is not too bad.
In the morning for example, I will leave my house at 6:30am and not get home again until 10pm. I will be using my phone constantly with push mail, calls, facebook, twitter, Wordpress etc.I will not be carrying any briefcase or a bag so am limited to what I can fit in my suit pocket. The luxury of tapping mains power is not there
My last phone could not do a day like that on a single charge and the Desire will be down to 30% by lunchtime (less than a third of the way through my day)
So I have the power pack and a spare battery as well and these can all fit in my suit jacket pocket without adding too much bulk

wow what's your job working 14-15h?

kmetek said:
wow what's your job working 14-15h?
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Not everyday (thank goodness) but if I am working in London (a couple of days a week) then it takes me 2.5 hours to get in and 2.5 hours to get out again so add that to 9 to 5 and a drink with the team or a customer before I get back on the train and you get the idea.
The good news is that a smartphone means I don't need to carry around a laptop everywhere. The bad news is that with the Desire, I need lots of spare power

Does it charge with 1000mA like the original HTC power connector, or only 500mA (like the most usb-cables)?
Thanks,

[off topic]
CESG lol, someone at my work loves leaving their three year old CESG documentation lying around, if they only had a clue about security that would bring them up to, well, incompetent at best

RetroFlux said:
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CESG lol, someone at my work loves leaving their three year old CESG documentation lying around, if they only had a clue about security that would bring them up to, well, incompetent at best
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I will have you know that that is one of the best free desktop PostIt Note, document highlighter thingys I have ever picked up at Infosec . It fits in well with all the other [email protected] on my desk.

planter88 said:
Does it charge with 1000mA like the original HTC power connector, or only 500mA (like the most usb-cables)?
Thanks,
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Actually I am not sure it is even charging at 500mA which is the reason that particular one is sitting back in it's box waiting for an RMA number
There are some out there that claim 700 or even 950 (I will be trying the latter just as soon as Amazon can deliver).

This dock looks pretty nice. Might be tempted by it if I get a spare battery in the future with it.

@MARK said:
Not everyday (thank goodness) but if I am working in London (a couple of days a week) then it takes me 2.5 hours to get in and 2.5 hours to get out again so add that to 9 to 5 and a drink with the team or a customer before I get back on the train and you get the idea.
The good news is that a smartphone means I don't need to carry around a laptop everywhere. The bad news is that with the Desire, I need lots of spare power
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Surely you would be better of getting a spare battery and swapping it out part way through the day
zippyioa

zippyioa said:
Surely you would be better of getting a spare battery and swapping it out part way through the day
zippyioa
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You may have noticed in the picture that I have already taken that route.
Indeed tomorrow now that the battery pack is being returned I will be leaving the house at 6:30 with a fully charged phone and a fully charged second battery and nothing else.
But if 1 battery lasts until lunchtime (6 hours) then the second will last until about 7pm but I don't get home until 10!!!
A 3rd battery?
I think I need one of those battery belts that pro photographers use but that would be silly
I think I just want to have my cake and eat it. I want to watch videos on the train (if I can ever get the encoding right) or listen to music, I want to actually use my device to the full and don't want to start switching off features. After all I paid the best part of £400 for this thing, not using it would be daft.
I just need to work out the right solution. On my last phone (a HTC S740) a 2nd battery was more than enough but on this one I think I just need a bit of time to work out what works.

[slightly off topic] you could try one of these bad boys, I've not got one myself but I've read good reviews. Also 3400mah is just under 2.5 recharges, which might save you taking the extra battery
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=403FF665-BBD7-4705-8725-D08B1255CD7D
Back on topic, I'm really tempted to get myself a dock, but I don't want one with the extra battery hole..

admoo said:
[slightly off topic] you could try one of these bad boys, I've not got one myself but I've read good reviews. Also 3400mah is just under 2.5 recharges, which might save you taking the extra battery
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=403FF665-BBD7-4705-8725-D08B1255CD7D
Back on topic, I'm really tempted to get myself a dock, but I don't want one with the extra battery hole..
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Or even
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=697808

Mugen Power extended battery

have anyone tried the mugen extended battery?
http://www . youtube . com/watch?v=iTJRyVjBw-g

Arghh makes the phone a real brick! I would've been happy with a 2000 mAH if it would keep the thickness down!

Ridiculously big! I agree, make a 2000-2500 battery and only extend the hump on the back only over the whole battery. Should still look real slick and doesn't make the phone look like a lunchbox

Agreed, 2000-2500 would be fine as long as the thickness can be kept down to a maximum of about the iPhone 3GS.
As the poster above said, ideally just make the entirety of the back plate the thickness of the Galaxy S's hump on the lower part instead of sucking inward anmd use the extra space for the battery.
My question is, can the batteries be made into different shapes? Because if the battery can extend out slightly why can't it then flatten over like the SIM card area to use all the space available under a raised back plate?

here's the full link to make the life of other people easier
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTJRyVjBw-g
i will not buy the 1600 mAh one, it is pointless from 1500 mAh stock
however the 3200 mAh i'll consider for sure, unfortunately the size is a little bit ridiculous. it's like having 2 phones stuck together.
at least they include the back plate
too bad it looks horrible, maybe i could put some stickers on it, or paint it with some colour spray
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Did anyone catch what's the price for the 3200 mAh with the huge back cover?
essamrafie said:
have anyone tried the mugen extended battery?
http://www . youtube . com/watch?v=iTJRyVjBw-g
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Great find, just what i've been looking for. I've searched Mugens website but can't find the battery, suppose will have to wait a few days.
Has anybody tested the life of the battery to check whether it does actually give 2x the life of the stock battery?
Thanks.

I WANT THIS
can't wait.

holy cr*!P that is ugly! however, i could be very tempted with such a battery, i previously had a mugen 3200mAh on my Nexus One and it would easily last 48 hours under my normal usage (sometime 3 days).
but yikes that does look really really thick - i wonder if all the empty space at the top of the backplate helps the audio on the phone. i can always kid myself
i knew as soon as i ordered a zenus flip case somebody would release an extended battery pack. maybe i should just get into the habit of carrying spares, or an external USB powerpack ... but an extended battery is just so convenient.
will have to think hard about this one!

i can use all that empty space to store like 100 micro SD cards to take my entire DVD collection + my entire Audio albums collection LOL
or simply store an extra 1500mAh battery inside as a Spare!

I am now a sad panda.... $99!
http://www.mugenpoweronline.com/product_info.php?products_id=790
still debating... imagine all he things I could hide... I could store my entire sdhc collection with that....

i love how they always do their best to hide the "thickness" - it's like we're all obsessed with size zero phones when in reality a size 16 can be fine ;-)
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Edit: actually thing I most dislike is the "5 megapixel" text around the lens hole. why?! who cares! trying to pretend it's a compact camera perhaps :lol:

99.00$ and you can have such ugly brick... No, thanks!

$99 is a bit much....
and the thickness doesn't help in the decision better
i got 2 authentic G7 1500mAh battery for only a quater of that price
it's easier to take some extra batteries in your pockets, than carrying a huge thick phone

Anybody bought this and tested it? Would love to know your views on battery performance and size.

Wiseguy7 said:
Anybody bought this and tested it? Would love to know your views on battery performance and size.
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and weight

is there a way to mod the case to include some sort of led flash? lol, its big enough

INeedYourHelp said:
is there a way to mod the case to include some sort of led flash? lol, its big enough
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yeah, this is an excellent idea!
more than enough space to fit in an AAA battery + LED light

this is definitely something that i would get. the thickness would not bother me, as i would only use this when out hiking, and would switch back to the normal battery/back at other times.
$99 is a bit much though. i think i would hang on for the price to come down a bit.
it would be better it the battery was shaped differently to have a larger surface area once it gets past the plastic surround where the battery sits in the phone. that would allow the same 3000+, but should shave a good few millimetres off the thickness.

lol i wish they went with something slimmer, something around the same thickness of the bump at the back. even if it can only accomodate 2000 to 2500 mah

Makes it look like a brick. Add a high wing spoiler with gold Mugen badging then we're taking.

Powerskin for dhd

engadget PowerSkin battery case pumps juice to HTC Inspire 4G, Desire HD http://engt.co/lvDmVr
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Saw this on engadget too and was seriously contemplating getting it. Tho I wonder how much bigger this will make the DHD feel

I was just going to post on it! You beat me. Seems like a win-win. I'm already using a Mugen 1500, so if I add this (which is 1500) for a combined battery life of 3000, I should never have to worry about battery life again. Here is the direct link if anyone wants to check it out. http://www.power-skin.com/battery-cases/ap1508des/htc-desire-inspire.html

Just saw the post on engadget as well, looks promising, hopefully it doesn't make the phone to thick, but would be a excellent thing for travelling if nothing else!

They just replied to my comment on their facebook page that there will be international shipping soon!

fatsheep said:
Just saw the post on engadget as well, looks promising, hopefully it doesn't make the phone to thick, but would be a excellent thing for travelling if nothing else!
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Of course it will make the phone too thick, just look at it !
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I thought about getting one, then changed my mind as soon as I looked at the pictures.

Wished they shipped to Canada. For $60 I'd give it a try!

I have a question look at the specifications Powerskin it is 5V, the problem is this is compatible with our European phone with a 3.7 V battery?

person to answer my question? thank you

ikkifcporto said:
I have a question look at the specifications Powerskin it is 5V, the problem is this is compatible with our European phone with a 3.7 V battery?
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It's universal, USB power is ~5V. All batteries in all DHDs say 3.7v remember that all this extra battery is doing is providing power via USB, therefore it needs to be ~5V.
Correct me if I'm wrong anybody.

Doktaphex said:
Of course it will make the phone too thick, just look at it !
I thought about getting one, then changed my mind as soon as I looked at the pictures.
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Doesn't seem any thicker than with a Case Mate Pop case. I have one so I'm sure I can live with this.
Sent via 1s and 0s through time and space using my Defy.

It needs to be 5V to appear as a charger to the Desire HD. But I see several issues with this:
-The Desire HD will be in constant charge mode until the external battery discharges. Only then the internal battery will start to be used.
It's not good to use a device while charging, this reduces the battery life, so this case will reduce the internal battery life.
-Being 5V means that the case internal 3.7V must be pumped to 5V and then reduces again to 4.2 to charge the battery. Pumps and regulators usually have a 80% efficiency, so 1500 x 0.8 x 0.8 = 960. Expect a battery improvement equivalent to 960 mA, not to 1500mA.
Still it's a great accesory for some situations where you spect to have a great consumption, like hicking with GPS, 3G use while moving, etc. And when the external battery is discharged you can remove the case and have the device full charged with its original size.

You can also turn the case off so it won't charge your phone. Then it doesn't charge the phone constantly and the internal battery life won't reduce that much.

Thanks for that picture It does look a bit thicker, but if nothing else its nice to have with you for weekend trips etc when you know you cant charge.
Does it work like a charger in the way that you can turn it off untill your internal battery is almost depleted, then switch it on and charge up the internal one (if you leave the phone idle?) or does it not really charge the internal one, just keep the phone alive on the extra battery?

Anyone tried this yet or has ordered one already? I'm really interested in this, but since I'm only 16-years, I don't have the money to try something out with a chance of not being worth it .

This too thick for my tastes, i like my dhd thin.
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Sorry I can't post the link. Since I'm a still a nub.. D=

what a fat lady she becomes in that suite nope just plain aluminium for me

HTC Desire Dimensions 4.80L X 2.70W X .46H from HTC site.
PowerSkin Dimensions 5.32L X 2.84W X .84H from power-skin.
Yes with powerskin case it is going to be twice as thick (deep)...Length and width are almost the same...

magomaev said:
HTC Desire Dimensions 4.80L X 2.70W X .46H from HTC site.
PowerSkin Dimensions 5.32L X 2.84W X .84H from power-skin.
Yes with powerskin case it is going to be twice as thick (deep)...Length and width are almost the same...
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It's a fascinating idea, but - converting inches to cm - that is about 0.8cm more, for a phone that is just about 1cm deep. In fact, the manufacturers do mention 0.8cm as a generic add-on. That's a lot of bulk...
For all-day GPS-intensive stuff I take along a 5000mah power pack that does the job nicely, which you just unplug if you need to make calls etc. Back in the bag, and connect it back up
Though I'm sure this powerskin will meet the needs of some people out there.

2100mAh 8Wh S4 mini battery for Relay

Hi folks!
Referring to the previous thread by @Guiyoforward and his great question, I thought it is worth to post it here, because I have tried and tested this one now and it is working with satisfication in contrast to my earlier tries and fails with different batteries as some of you might remember.
The battery from Samsung Galaxy S4 mini matches perfectly, there is no issue with the back cover as the thickness of the battery is the same to the relay battery.
You just need to cut a small piece on the edge of the battery in the left corner (as seen in the first pic below) in order the pins touch the mobile plug: Take the battery to a solid place, I then used a knife, positioned it on the inner part of the edge, one time very slightly used the hammer and took that small piece away with my fingers. (just 5 seconds work) You can also do it on a different way of course as you wish.
When you put it into relay, it looks like this:
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on the right side of the battery, there is about 2mm slit, you can either fill in there with something or can also leave it as it is still stable enough. Even if you move it to very right, there is no issue with the plug, because the pins are still touching it.
The OEM battery of S4 mini has 1900mAh.
So I went for Polarcell battery which has 2100mAh and 8Wh (w/o NFC, though there is also one with).
Unlike the other batteries I tried, there is no issue for charging up to 100 %. And finally one which works fine.
So, in case you are interested, good luck and enjoy!

Awesome!! Just a quick question. Any battery wiz could tell me if a 3 pin s4 mini battery (the ones I can find here) would work? Best, g.

I am afraid it just work with 4 pins, because of the gaps between the pins. maybe there could be another solution for your issue

@Guiyoforward
I have checked it today for you, on the battery you could remove the part of the gaps easily, then the three pins can touch the battery. it seems like the yellow surface is only one part on the battery, thus it does not matter how many pins could be used to touch. Though I dont know why they make exactly 4 or exactly 3 pins - maybe there is a reason or maybe not. You should check this first

Does this battery support NFC?

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Does this battery support NFC?
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there is one of the same brand like mine here that comes with NFC http://m.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku...-S4-mini-LTE-GT-i9195-EB-B500BE-/370946250005
there may be also other brands especially in your country.
for me it wasnt a matter whether with or w/o NFC. i realized that only after i have ordered though, so if i had found that above earlier, i would ve had ordered there.
but i am happy with mine as well, as i never ever needed NFC.

I've tried this one (with NFC) and it works great!
You don't need a hammer, just scratch 2-3 times with a sharp knife at the edge.
But how can I test NFC?^^

esilence said:
there is one of the same brand like mine here that comes with NFC http://m.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku...-S4-mini-LTE-GT-i9195-EB-B500BE-/370946250005
there may be also other brands especially in your country.
for me it wasnt a matter whether with or w/o NFC. i realized that only after i have ordered though, so if i had found that above earlier, i would ve had ordered there.
but i am happy with mine as well, as i never ever needed NFC.
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Thanks, I just ordered one. Should be here sometime next week

Very cool! -- Wish I'd seen this before ordering my extra batteries last week! >.<
By the way, this makes a lot of sense (that it works well and charges to 100%). The reason the other batteries never fully charged (at least the one in the other thread) was because they were 3.7v (4.2 max) batteries. Meaning the most voltage they would ever put out is 4.2 volts -- whereas our phones expect a 3.8v (4.35v max) battery. And the battery you show above is definitely a 3.8v battery.
(That's why they would never charge all the way. -- Additionally, that's also why they got so hot and didn't last very long. Overcharging a Li-ion/Li-po battery [i.e. charging it at a higher voltage than what it's rated for] will damage it, as some of the lattice will be destroyed during each overcharge.)
Sources, if interested:
https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries/voltages
http://www.digikey.com/en-US/articl...a-designers-guide-to-lithium-battery-charging
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery

Just ordered this:
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00XVIVGH4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
2100mAh with NFC, and hopefully I'll be able to cut it into shape for the Relay.

Magnetic micro usb adapter /cable

I read that the usb port of Mi max is very easy to scratch, is using magnetic micro usb adapter or cable a good solution?
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So you'd rather have something stick out than some scratches only visible if you specifically look for them? I wouldn't even noticed them if didn't read this few days back.
I really don't get it...
It's just a phone, tool ment for every day use.

nijel8 said:
So you'd rather have something stick out than some scratches only visible if you specifically look for them? I wouldn't even noticed them if didn't read this few days back.
I really don't get it...
It's just a phone, tool ment for every day use.
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I agree. Anybody who knows me personally will tell you that I am anally retentive when it comes to the condition of my gadgets. Seeing someone use a phone with a cracked screen induces almost Jack the Ripper levels of rage in me but this isn't a huge problem. I have had this phone for around 5 days now and can see some very very small scuffs on the bottom of the charging port but only when I hold the phone very close to my eyes and specifically look for them.
It might also help that I haven't used the cable that came with it. At work I charge the phone using an old Blackberry cable and at home I've either used the cable from my PS4 controller or a high-speed fabric threaded one that I picked up on a market in Hong Kong last year. None of those cables have small studs on the micro-USB plug that I have seen on some other cables over the last few years. I have no idea what the included cable is like as it is still in the box untouched.

I wouldn't be happy if something that affects functionality shows up over time too.
Actually Mi Max USB port is very well protected from getting loose over time with that tight frame opening and that's why it gets some minor scuffs. I'd rather have that than loose port with weak electrical contacts. That's exactly what I had with my previous $850 Samsung Note3 in less than 6 months of use. Mi max won't develop this because USB cable connector is supported by the frame, not the port only...

micro USB
I believe that the micro USB - is a big mistake. Its construction took not engineers, and a herd of old. Built on a design twist on the wrong side. Back Lighting. Look into the micro USB - you see an unfortunate engineering decision. It's like Apple revenge, and we are paying the price. 5 contacts arranged on a plastic plate of 0.5 mm thick. Which hangs in the air. After 2 years of daily use, this plastic (probably made from waste and old bottles) turns into a rag. I have a phone with a cable fell onto the pillow !!! Now the connector loose. This occurs when the decisions are made by intriguers, not engineers, but the entire planet obeyed. Where were the engineers at the factories, and even in China? Are you afraid to say too much words and held on to his salary?
Based on the foregoing, Type-C with 24 contacts - even sillier.
Whiter than a weak structure, not protected from the slightest mechanical impact, it is difficult to come up with.
Perhaps a little magnetic cable will extend the life of my micro USB connector, although the charging current is reduced by approximately 25%.
In the USSR before the shot for wrecking the economy. In some ways, my grandfathers were right.

seregadushka said:
I believe that the micro USB - is a big mistake. Its construction took not engineers, and a herd of old. Built on a design twist on the wrong side. Back Lighting. Look into the micro USB - you see an unfortunate engineering decision. It's like Apple revenge, and we are paying the price. 5 contacts arranged on a plastic plate of 0.5 mm thick. Which hangs in the air. After 2 years of daily use, this plastic (probably made from waste and old bottles) turns into a rag. I have a phone with a cable fell onto the pillow !!! Now the connector loose. This occurs when the decisions are made by intriguers, not engineers, but the entire planet obeyed. Where were the engineers at the factories, and even in China? Are you afraid to say too much words and held on to his salary?
Based on the foregoing, Type-C with 24 contacts - even sillier.
Whiter than a weak structure, not protected from the slightest mechanical impact, it is difficult to come up with.
Perhaps a little magnetic cable will extend the life of my micro USB connector, although the charging current is reduced by approximately 25%.
In the USSR before the shot for wrecking the economy. In some ways, my grandfathers were right.
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