Hi folks!
Referring to the previous thread by @Guiyoforward and his great question, I thought it is worth to post it here, because I have tried and tested this one now and it is working with satisfication in contrast to my earlier tries and fails with different batteries as some of you might remember.
The battery from Samsung Galaxy S4 mini matches perfectly, there is no issue with the back cover as the thickness of the battery is the same to the relay battery.
You just need to cut a small piece on the edge of the battery in the left corner (as seen in the first pic below) in order the pins touch the mobile plug: Take the battery to a solid place, I then used a knife, positioned it on the inner part of the edge, one time very slightly used the hammer and took that small piece away with my fingers. (just 5 seconds work) You can also do it on a different way of course as you wish.
When you put it into relay, it looks like this:
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on the right side of the battery, there is about 2mm slit, you can either fill in there with something or can also leave it as it is still stable enough. Even if you move it to very right, there is no issue with the plug, because the pins are still touching it.
The OEM battery of S4 mini has 1900mAh.
So I went for Polarcell battery which has 2100mAh and 8Wh (w/o NFC, though there is also one with).
Unlike the other batteries I tried, there is no issue for charging up to 100 %. And finally one which works fine.
So, in case you are interested, good luck and enjoy!
Awesome!! Just a quick question. Any battery wiz could tell me if a 3 pin s4 mini battery (the ones I can find here) would work? Best, g.
I am afraid it just work with 4 pins, because of the gaps between the pins. maybe there could be another solution for your issue
@Guiyoforward
I have checked it today for you, on the battery you could remove the part of the gaps easily, then the three pins can touch the battery. it seems like the yellow surface is only one part on the battery, thus it does not matter how many pins could be used to touch. Though I dont know why they make exactly 4 or exactly 3 pins - maybe there is a reason or maybe not. You should check this first
Does this battery support NFC?
John5788 said:
Does this battery support NFC?
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there is one of the same brand like mine here that comes with NFC http://m.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku...-S4-mini-LTE-GT-i9195-EB-B500BE-/370946250005
there may be also other brands especially in your country.
for me it wasnt a matter whether with or w/o NFC. i realized that only after i have ordered though, so if i had found that above earlier, i would ve had ordered there.
but i am happy with mine as well, as i never ever needed NFC.
I've tried this one (with NFC) and it works great!
You don't need a hammer, just scratch 2-3 times with a sharp knife at the edge.
But how can I test NFC?^^
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there is one of the same brand like mine here that comes with NFC http://m.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku...-S4-mini-LTE-GT-i9195-EB-B500BE-/370946250005
there may be also other brands especially in your country.
for me it wasnt a matter whether with or w/o NFC. i realized that only after i have ordered though, so if i had found that above earlier, i would ve had ordered there.
but i am happy with mine as well, as i never ever needed NFC.
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Thanks, I just ordered one. Should be here sometime next week
Very cool! -- Wish I'd seen this before ordering my extra batteries last week! >.<
By the way, this makes a lot of sense (that it works well and charges to 100%). The reason the other batteries never fully charged (at least the one in the other thread) was because they were 3.7v (4.2 max) batteries. Meaning the most voltage they would ever put out is 4.2 volts -- whereas our phones expect a 3.8v (4.35v max) battery. And the battery you show above is definitely a 3.8v battery.
(That's why they would never charge all the way. -- Additionally, that's also why they got so hot and didn't last very long. Overcharging a Li-ion/Li-po battery [i.e. charging it at a higher voltage than what it's rated for] will damage it, as some of the lattice will be destroyed during each overcharge.)
Sources, if interested:
https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries/voltages
http://www.digikey.com/en-US/articl...a-designers-guide-to-lithium-battery-charging
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery
Just ordered this:
http://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B00XVIVGH4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
2100mAh with NFC, and hopefully I'll be able to cut it into shape for the Relay.
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Here is the proper place for this thread discussion.
Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this battery and installation. I will also provide pic here in a moment.
1800 mAh Battery for Vision/G2
remove the small tab from here
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So this battery, after the mod, fits right into our G2's without having to use a different cover or anything?
ChronoReverse said:
So this battery, after the mod, fits right into our G2's without having to use a different cover or anything?
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I just took the red wrapper off of it and it fit snuggly
In terms of weight, does it change much? I'm thinking about picking up this battery if it's a drop-in replacement.
I just purchased, thanks.
Well, it's certainly cheap so might as well give it a try. I highly doubt it's even close to 1800mAh but hopefully it'll be more than 1300mAh and won't die after 50 cycles.
i wouldnt trust it since it from china, they been known to switch out label
Can you let us know what the battery life is like, compared to your normal battery, please? I am interested, but have heard too many tales of batteries that promise more but in fact deliver less. It would be great if this gave even 25% more over the standard battery!
Here's some independent testing that shows a lot of manufacturers claims aren't always that true:
http://batteryboss.org/
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i wouldnt trust it since it from china, they been known to switch out label
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Our Phone is from Taiwan. Why not a Bat from China? lol Just sayin'
setspeed said:
Can you let us know what the battery life is like, compared to your normal battery, please? I am interested, but have heard too many tales of batteries that promise more but in fact deliver less. It would be great if this gave even 25% more over the standard battery!
Here's some independent testing that shows a lot of manufacturers claims aren't always that true:
http://batteryboss.org/
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Here are some screen shots for ya.
After 1 day 4hrs I was still at 35% Not bad
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thanks for the preview pic, on how to modify the battery. I purchased a battery for $5.98 USD! Cant wait to test it out.
Just curious but did you have your internet on the entire time you were doing the test run? I normally turn off my internet and activate it when needed, when I do that battery life for me is about 20 something hours, with mild usage (gaming and phone calling).
any more updates?
I just bought one. I will update you guys when i get it.
I ordered one. Wth for 8 bucks
From my permarooted overclocked HTC G2 with cyanogen 7 nightly via XDA app
I bought one from mugen site and it is awesome althought it is a little bit pricey but i think it worth. I charge it over night. Unplug it at 7 am and carry with me untill 10pm. My wireless was on the whole time. I have 3 email setup as default. Running sense ui so i believe there is some process running at the back ground. I only make about 30 min to 1 hour call. At 10 pm, i still have 35% life.
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Well, too expensive
Just received mine. Removing the tab means it'll go into the space but it still won't fit quite right as the battery is slightly too thick for my cover to go back on.
I'll see if I can rectify this =/
ChronoReverse said:
Just received mine. Removing the tab means it'll go into the space but it still won't fit quite right as the battery is slightly too thick for my cover to go back on.
I'll see if I can rectify this =/
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Same problem here. If u take the red wrapper off i dont think it matters because the black plastic cheap outlined housing is the problem. I think i wasted 8 bucks
From my permarooted 1209mhz G2 with CM7 nightly 6
Yeah, I've taken the entire thing apart (piecemealed it together) now and while the cover will fit it still bulges out because the battery itself is a tad too thick.
It was a cheap experiment though so I'm not choked. The lesson here is that Incredible/Evo batteries don't fit our phones =(
Alright folks, don't know if this has been discussed before, and frankly I can't browse through threads atm looking for it, so here it is. It's a a power case for your Desire HD/Inspire 4G with an extended 1500mAh battery to make your life easier.
I've tested it some time ago but never got the chance to actually post anything about it because I just don't get enough time. The case is very rigid and provides the ultimate protection for your device. The only downside is the fact it is enormous.
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The price varies between $40 and $47 so if you think this can help save your phone, go ahead and buy yourself one.
You can grab it on amazon,
http://www.amazon.com/PowerSkin-Pro..._1_8?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1330464202&sr=1-8
Be fast they only have like 4 or 5 left in stock.
Of course if ya think this post is useful, hit thanx. Won't kill ya.
PS: I am in no way affiliated with the company that is making this so if ya think I'm making money here, I'm not.
read the reviews on amazon... it sucks...
As panyan says... it sucks... I tested it for a week and then it went back to amazon...
The Quality is quite good, but it makes the DHD really fat... but i knew it before i purchased it and this wasnt the real problem...
This this batterie was supposed to last as long as the internal batterie does, but for 50euros (in germany) you get a silikoncase which makes your phone thicker and a really bad batterie that lasts for 7 hours... in IDLE!!
My DHD "survives" sometimes up to 2 Days (When its IDLE most the time), so a battery that used to have more capacity then the internal one lasts only 7 hours?
FAIL!!!
I loaded it more than one time to full capacity and tested it the whole week...
I cannot recommend that powerskin.
mfg cre-x
PS: sry for my bad english XD
It's an interesting idea, but it woud add a lot of weight and bulk to the phone, which you would only need let's say for the second 1/2 of the day
So would you want to carry that around with you all day?
The alternative, which I use, is to have a battery pack (mine's a 5000mAh) which I plug into the charging socket of the phone via USB-microUSB cable when I run low.
The battery pack has the same dimensions and weight as the phone, but I keep it in a bag until needed, so it doesn't affect the phone's bulk until I decide to charge.
And they are cheap too, I got mine off Amazon for €22 I think it was. NewTrent is the brand, I can recommend it. The price fluctuates quite a lot. There are also some cheaper alternatives, but I wouldn't bother with a 2000mAh pack, since it wouldn't pack much of a punch. Also the NewTrent one has 2 output sockets and can provide a 1A output, giving a fast charge.
And you can keep your favourite case too, no worries about GPS signal either
powerskins are for people who can only get to charge their phone every other day or use the phone very intensly.
In most cases it's a waste of money.
I used it 3 months and now it no works.
PS: This Case is really big!
I have it, it's awesome. The thickness isn't important to me, i have big pockets. But it was 80$ here in my country.
phone companies are on the verge of these 'inductive charging' techniques by just attaching the tech to the battery without sacrificing any of the physical size of it all, so who knows maybe at the end of the year it'll become standard in phones without the need of having accessories like these
WOW! The Phone becomes very thick with this thing. That's absolutely not cool. In which pocket shall it fit? Just rendered and no real pictures you can see nothing about the quality of these thing. I think a spare accu is much better than this Power Skin.
ace9988 said:
phone companies are on the verge of these 'inductive charging' techniques by just attaching the tech to the battery without sacrificing any of the physical size of it all, so who knows maybe at the end of the year it'll become standard in phones without the need of having accessories like these
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And you will be the first to make a review video in your local park to show us how good it works?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00885RTG2/ref=mp_s_a_1?pi=SL75&qid=1349613280&sr=8-1
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I got a 3500 mah, for $17 shipped. arrived in two days.
the battery and back case is hard to tell hoe thick from the pictures, I'm guessing its 1/4" thicker than stock. no additional protection to the camera lens over stock, other than the shelf the extended case provides. it feels heavier, bit easier to hold than with the tiny stock battery case.
the mt4gs is nearing end of life for development, so ill use it until its damaged, then upgrade .
charged well, and then started it up yesterday morning around 6am. I'm now at 29%, with almost 31hours of use. yes, the graph is wrong, as I plugged it in to transfer 15-20 pictures to the Mac for however long that takes. that USB port is 1.1, so if you really want to figure how much juice it received, figure about 3 minutes plugged in....
the majority of time the phone had wifi and 3g/edge on, with poor reception.
this is virtuous v 1.3 and Gmail, contacts, calendar and g+ photos syncing running at 1.3ghz, "on demand" throttling.
again, currently I'm at 29% after 31hours.
A link of the battery, Back cover if any and a picture of the battery itself is a must if you want to share the info here with us.
Posting a screenshot of your phone's battery graph only and not even having the right values you stated won't be of any use for us.
So please if you want to share something please make it as detailed as possible in a way we could appreciate it
Riyal said:
A link of the battery, Back cover if any and a picture of the battery itself is a must if you want to share the info here with us.
Posting a screenshot of your phone's battery graph only and not even having the right values you stated won't be of any use for us.
So please if you want to share something please make it as detailed as possible in a way we could appreciate it
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can't make the screenshot right, but my information corrected it. updated first post with screenshots and direct amazon link.
OK, I'm at 3%, after 35 hours , with no attempts at conserving at all. I've shot video, surfed, txt, all normal operations. with some simple conservation, I could squeeze 2 days easily. 3 would mean using airplane mode, or edge. this will be great for motocamping.
I would never be able to have a battery that thick for my phone, but cheers for the battery life
Duplicate thread.
Sent from Spaceball One.
After 2 or 3 months with the same battery its still super strong...getting better with continual improvents in cm.
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wow so impressed by your review concerning this battery just ordered 1 from alibaba since ebay does not sell outside US,,,,plshave you check there is any way the original backdoor will work with this battery
Emmaugoh said:
wow so impressed by your review concerning this battery just ordered 1 from alibaba since ebay does not sell outside US,,,,plshave you check there is any way the original backdoor will work with this battery
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nope, it is much too thick
Emmaugoh said:
wow so impressed by your review concerning this battery just ordered 1 from alibaba since ebay does not sell outside US,,,,plshave you check there is any way the original backdoor will work with this battery
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I have one of these batteries for my phone. If you haven't already figured it out, there's no way possible the original back door will fit with this battery, it's twice as thick as the OEM.
Ok thanks
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Hi Guys! I was looking around on Amazon for a extended battery coz my stock battery is draining so fast. When the battery percentage is between 18% or 15% sometimes it turns off immediately (without the samsung poweroff log). So I found this battery in Amazon (sorry the pic is from ebay) and I'm thinking of buying it. What do you think? Is it worth to buy or not?
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Heck... I did not think it was really possible! 1 thing I would want to really know, is what kind on "Protection" is out for something like this? Knowing, that "IF" the battery is larger, you need a new back side (Battery Cover)! OK, Now, needing a new Battery cover, also means that any sort of Case will not work at all !!!! So, what is really out there for protection of the S5?
I will be checking into this! Yes, already have been looking into a newer battery. SO, guess I might as well look into this sort of thing.
Only concern, is Protection of the phone, after a new, larger , battery cover!!
Sounds like your battery is pretty old. What is it that you actually do with your phone? I would suggest just purchasing a new battery instead.. I just bought 2 new batteries on Ebay for under $17. You can also get a wall charge to keep them charged, and change out at least once a month..
doubledragon5 said:
Sounds like your battery is pretty old. What is it that you actually do with your phone? I would suggest just purchasing a new battery instead.. I just bought 2 new batteries on Ebay for under $17. You can also get a wall charge to keep them charged, and change out at least once a month..
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Im use my phone for heavy usage and I always play games. I even always use it when the phones charging lol so thats why my battery is screwed up. Thanks for the suggestion. ?
godofsalt said:
Heck... I did not think it was really possible! 1 thing I would want to really know, is what kind on "Protection" is out for something like this? Knowing, that "IF" the battery is larger, you need a new back side (Battery Cover)! OK, Now, needing a new Battery cover, also means that any sort of Case will not work at all !!!! So, what is really out there for protection of the S5?
I will be checking into this! Yes, already have been looking into a newer battery. SO, guess I might as well look into this sort of thing.
Only concern, is Protection of the phone, after a new, larger , battery cover!!
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Yes it comes with a new back cover and a phone case which is bulky. The only downside I think is it has no waterproof protection.
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Yes it comes with a new back cover and a phone case which is bulky. The only downside I think is it has no waterproof protection.
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Personally I do not trust the so called waterproof protection.
Ok and Thanks for the info.
Really dont want the S5 any more bulky, but still going to look at them...
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I was gonna get a similar case. My S5 battery is literally from day one release lol its not bloated or anything since I use Device Control to down tune the CPU and GPU (Kinda like apple does with iphones) but I don't mind more bulk for better battery. Easier to hold in my opinion
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I have a 6600 mAh battery made by Tothl Technology, model EXTS5 that I have used in an S5 for a couple of years. It has worked pretty well. Due to its thickness, it came with a replacement back cover, and it does bulk the phone up a bit.
I've a power bear battery/case 6800mah or 7200mah. I works more like à 5500mah battery but It works like a charm .
The 4 or 5 first charges are a bit long. but really do the job.
Is there anywhere to buy a battery case or plug-in external battery? Carrying a power bank all the time isn't incredibly convenient.
If you need an external battery with this phone then you are doing something seriously wrong...!!! :laugh:
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Is there anywhere to buy a battery case or plug-in external battery? Carrying a power bank all the time isn't incredibly convenient.
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"Carrying a power bank all the time isn't incredibly convenient." With this phone ?! Really ?!
I can understand if you are in travel, but "all the time" ?!
I don't need it. I never have to charge this phone. But I'd still *want* it. ?
I get the want, I used to have the Samsung note 2 with an absurdly large upgrade battery with a humpback case and cover, like 4000 If I remember correctly unheard of back in the day. but it was so huge, I also have the mi max 3,, it could use a few 1000 more milliamps and be ok if it was a few cm thicker im for a bigger battery,, I had the zte zmax pro z981 that really needed a upgrade battery, never able to find one. I dreamed many a time about adding 2 batteries to it, and cutting a hole in the rear case to make it work.... ehh big screens big power consumption.,, use tmobile and get DIGITS and another MI MAX 3, both ring from the same number, but only one has 4g data, the digits is only 3 g data, (piss poor) but 4g phone calling. both will have wi fi, I used my zte zmax with the digits line, and used to bring both phones with me everywhere, as the mi max was a bit of a compermise on some items I was weaning myself off of the ZTE, till I started leaving it at my bedside for late night videos then just reset it and gave it to my son, finaly the MI Max 3 is my only phone, so I am with you on more battery ...
I've decided to purchase a Zerolemon Oneplus case with around 8000mah. I'm going to buy a cheap case off of Aliexpress after that and make one. If everything goes well, I may make a tutorial and post the photos.
This phone had a 5500mAh battery... It keeps even me, a diehard user, going for 2 to 3 days straight...
Why would any sane person need a power bank at this point?
I applaud you for the effort though.
You have some battery cases on aliexpress, but you dont need it, i get around 3-4 days with 14h or more screen on time, never less than 14
Mi max 3 battery case for 20 bucks
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There is one:
https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/32976525429.html?spm=a2g0s.8937460.0.0.5d8f2e0enJJPIm
man seriously at this point i don,t think anyone would want a battery case if you are getting 2 days battery and you are still not happy then you might need a car battery with a phone around it, just kidding
aliusman said:
man seriously at this point i don,t think anyone would want a battery case if you are getting 2 days battery and you are still not happy then you might need a car battery with a phone around it, just kidding
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Is anyone offering that? I am interested!
DateAPilgrim said:
I've decided to purchase a Zerolemon Oneplus case with around 8000mah. I'm going to buy a cheap case off of Aliexpress after that and make one. If everything goes well, I may make a tutorial and post the photos.
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How did the case work out in the end?