[Q] Do Samsung Pay cards stay on watch when re-installing phone? - Samsung Gear S3

I'm a crackflasher and frequently am reinstalling my phone.
Do the cards listed in Samsung Pay on the watch stay on the watch when re-installing the phone, or do they get erased when the watch syncs with the phone for the first time?
The reason I ask is because when using Android Pay on my phone, if I reinstall the ROM without removing the card from Android Pay first, my banks see it as having it installed on multiple devices. AMEX for example only lets you have the card setup on 3(I think) devices.
Thanks for the info!

MrBrady said:
I'm a crackflasher and frequently am reinstalling my phone.
Do the cards listed in Samsung Pay on the watch stay on the watch when re-installing the phone, or do they get erased when the watch syncs with the phone for the first time?
The reason I ask is because when using Android Pay on my phone, if I reinstall the ROM without removing the card from Android Pay first, my banks see it as having it installed on multiple devices. AMEX for example only lets you have the card setup on 3(I think) devices.
Thanks for the info!
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They get erased. I've done it twice. I setup my Gear S3 on my Note 2 perfectly, complete with Samsung Pay. I even got a letter from my bank saying my credit card has a "digital account number" associated with it using Samsung Pay. Then I had to reflash the ROM (because I messed it up trying to fix my Group MMS trying to install different versions of messenger apk). When re-registering the Gear S3 with my newly flashed Note 2, the Gear S3 had to do a "soft-reboot". I had to setup Samsung Pay again (enter the credit card number, sign your signature my Note 2, etc.). I got another letter from my bank saying my credit card has a new "digital account number" (which is different from the first one which no longer works). Everything works again.
EDIT *** Whether the first one is still considered "active' in the eyes of my bank, I don't know.

RexEscape said:
They get erased. I've done it twice. I setup my Gear S3 on my Note 2 perfectly, complete with Samsung Pay. I even got a letter from my bank saying my credit card has a "digital account number" associated with it using Samsung Pay. Then I had to reflash the ROM (because I messed it up trying to fix my Group MMS trying to install different versions of messenger apk). When re-registering the Gear S3 with my newly flashed Note 2, the Gear S3 had to do a "soft-reboot". I had to setup Samsung Pay again (enter the credit card number, sign your signature my Note 2, etc.). I got another letter from my bank saying my credit card has a new "digital account number" (which is different from the first one which no longer works). Everything works again.
EDIT *** Whether the first one is still considered "active' in the eyes of my bank, I don't know.
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Great info! Thank you.

RexEscape said:
They get erased. I've done it twice. I setup my Gear S3 on my Note 2 perfectly, complete with Samsung Pay. I even got a letter from my bank saying my credit card has a "digital account number" associated with it using Samsung Pay. Then I had to reflash the ROM (because I messed it up trying to fix my Group MMS trying to install different versions of messenger apk). When re-registering the Gear S3 with my newly flashed Note 2, the Gear S3 had to do a "soft-reboot". I had to setup Samsung Pay again (enter the credit card number, sign your signature my Note 2, etc.). I got another letter from my bank saying my credit card has a new "digital account number" (which is different from the first one which no longer works). Everything works again.
EDIT *** Whether the first one is still considered "active' in the eyes of my bank, I don't know.
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2 Questions, did you logged into the same Samsung account for gear manager after the flashing and did you logged in to your Samsung account before starting the pairing process. As far as I know, watch should not reset itself as long as you are pairing with the same phone and user account.

10urshin said:
2 Questions, did you logged into the same Samsung account for gear manager after the flashing and did you logged in to your Samsung account before starting the pairing process. As far as I know, watch should not reset itself as long as you are pairing with the same phone and user account.
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Hmm...I can't remember whether I'm signed into my phone using my Samsung account when I tried to reconnect the Gear S3 on a newly flashed ROM. I wish I remembered exactly what I did and when I did it. Sorry

I was thinking of using Titanium Backup to backup and restore all the Samsung Gear apps. This may remedy the card erasing solution.
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If you have the LTE S3, you can pair it with a cheap phone dedicated solely to that task. It doesn't need a SIM, only a WiFi network. Plus a service like Digits, Google Voice, or NumberSync.

10urshin said:
2 Questions, did you logged into the same Samsung account for gear manager after the flashing and did you logged in to your Samsung account before starting the pairing process. As far as I know, watch should not reset itself as long as you are pairing with the same phone and user account.
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Just a follow up, i just installed nougat update to my s6 edge with wiping data, i logged in to my samsung account and tried pairing phone with gear without resetting the gear, bluetooth pairing worked but as soon as i open gear manager it light reset the gear. After reset it restore all my gear data tho, except settings and widget orders.

I still can't remember whether I was logged into my Samsung account when I paired. It did pair after a light reset but Samsung Pay info was gone and I had to re-register my credit card again.

Lol, I had to redo my cards just after taking the pin code off.
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So, having the PIN removed, does it just go directly to Samsung Pay without asking for a PIN when you long press the Back button?

RexEscape said:
So, having the PIN removed, does it just go directly to Samsung Pay without asking for a PIN when you long press the Back button?
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With my pin removed. I could no longer use Samsung pay. It basically deleted everything pay information wise to my watch. I redid a pin code. And basically started from scratch again. The bank even sent me a new letter about joining Samsung pay.
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So, I was thinking to connect my phone to a google account.
I have a Samsung Galaxy 3 i5800 and don't have any internet contract with it, so I will be connecting only through my home wifi.
The only reason I want to do this is for the contacts synchronization, but are there any disadvantages in doing so? Any other reason to join the phone to an account (considering I don't have a contract with internet)? I probably won't be installing any apps since I'm fine with what the phone has.
On a side note, does the 2 step verification for google accounts have a cost? If yes how can I know how much it is?
trey77 said:
So, I was thinking to connect my phone to a google account.
I have a Samsung Galaxy 3 i5800 and don't have any internet contract with it, so I will be connecting only through my home wifi.
The only reason I want to do this is for the contacts synchronization, but are there any disadvantages in doing so? Any other reason to join the phone to an account (considering I don't have a contract with internet)? I probably won't be installing any apps since I'm fine with what the phone has.
On a side note, does the 2 step verification for google accounts have a cost? If yes how can I know how much it is?
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No disadvantages I can think of, and no cost attached.
You'll be able to re-sync your contacts, calendar, google pictures if you were to flash or factory restore your phone.
trey77 said:
So, I was thinking to connect my phone to a google account.
I have a Samsung Galaxy 3 i5800 and don't have any internet contract with it, so I will be connecting only through my home wifi.
The only reason I want to do this is for the contacts synchronization, but are there any disadvantages in doing so? Any other reason to join the phone to an account (considering I don't have a contract with internet)? I probably won't be installing any apps since I'm fine with what the phone has.
On a side note, does the 2 step verification for google accounts have a cost? If yes how can I know how much it is?
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The 2-step verification does not have a cost. Also, there's an app for your phone. It's an implementation of the Time-Based One-Time Password Algorithm (TOTP) in accordance with the guidelines outlined by the Initiative for Open Authentication (OATH), so it should work offline. However, not all apps/sites that use your Google login are compatible with it yet, so you'll probably have to make application specific passwords for some sites/apps.
Also, it's open source, which is nice.
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Two-factor authentication issue with Google Account

I picked up my Verizon Galaxy S7 yesterday and went to setup my Google Apps for Education account but ran into an issue. With all of my other Galaxy phones I've used an app specific password since I have two-factor authentication enabled. However, that didn't work with my S7, it said something to the effect of "incorrect password". My coworker had the same issue. We ended up using our regular passwords and then entering a 6 digit Google Authenticator code. This seems to have worked for now, but it may ask for another code in 30 days and wouldn't have worked if I didn't have my old S5 with Google Authenticator still set up. Has anyone else had this issue? Was there a fix or workaround?
My experience has been you have to use your normal Google password. In the past the application password would have worked but for me that changed when I went from the S5 to the S6.
_Gir_ said:
My experience has been you have to use your normal Google password. In the past the application password would have worked but for me that changed when I went from the S5 to the S6.
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Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I follow, you are using two-factor and had to enter your regular password and your 6 digit Google Authenticator code?
sixteen2nd said:
Thanks for the reply. Just to make sure I follow, you are using two-factor and had to enter your regular password and your 6 digit Google Authenticator code?
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Yes & I do use the 2-factor. I have never been asked to revalidate after 30 days. Maybe the S7 will be different than my experience with the S6.
For any other newcomers who use 2 factor--the old phone isn't really required. Just skip the initial google setup, activate the new sim card, and once text messages are being sent to the new phone go back and active the google account.
I'm just about to switch to the S7 too! (Slight thread hijack here), but is there any (non-root way ... ie not TB) to take my GAuth from my Note 3 to my S7 without having to manually reactivate anything?
_Gir_ said:
Yes & I do use the 2-factor. I have never been asked to revalidate after 30 days. Maybe the S7 will be different than my experience with the S6.
For any other newcomers who use 2 factor--the old phone isn't really required. Just skip the initial google setup, activate the new sim card, and once text messages are being sent to the new phone go back and active the google account.
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It's just weird that on my SIII and S5, and on my coworkers S6, we could use the "Application Specific Passcode" generated in our Google account, whereas our S7's wouldn't accept said code.
But you are exactly right, there are other ways to get your 2-factor authentication code: text message, phone call, etc.

Gear S3 - Samsung Pay (within Gear App) won't prompt for credentials

I have a non-Samsung Android phone (LG G4). I'm receiving the attached message on my Gear S3. I tap "OK" but the Gear App on my phone does not prompt for credentials and so I am unable to use Samsung Pay on the watch.
Any ideas?
Just open up Samsung pay within the gear app on phone.
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mrbkkt1 said:
Just open up Samsung pay within the gear app on phone.
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I tried that and the app opens just fine. It even shows me all my cards and transactions. It does not prompt me for credentials.
I've also tried signing out of my Samsung account and then sign back in. I also powercycled both the watch and the phone.
ETA: There is an option there to reset the app, however, if I reset the app then all the cards, transactions, etc. go away. I would have to contact my banks and re-add the cards, so I was hoping to find another solution before I did that.
NealJ777 said:
I tried that and the app opens just fine. It even shows me all my cards and transactions. It does not prompt me for credentials.
I've also tried signing out of my Samsung account and then sign back in. I also powercycled both the watch and the phone.
ETA: There is an option there to reset the app, however, if I reset the app then all the cards, transactions, etc. go away. I would have to contact my banks and re-add the cards, so I was hoping to find another solution before I did that.
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Make sure phone and watch connected when you open the app. I got that notification the other day. Sucks when you're in a rush and it asks that.
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Just to follow up on this. I ended up doing a hard reset of my watch, which was probably unnecessary. I probably should have just reset Samsung Pay, but I was just getting a little impatient. I had to set everything back up again from scratch. I hope I don't have to do this again.
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NealJ777 said:
I have a non-Samsung Android phone (LG G4). I'm receiving the attached message on my Gear S3. I tap "OK" but the Gear App on my phone does not prompt for credentials and so I am unable to use Samsung Pay on the watch.
Any ideas?
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Try resetting the Samsung Pay app on your phone.
abhijitgiri123 said:
Try resetting the Samsung Pay app on your phone.
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Read the response I wrote just above yours.
I ended up doing a hard reset of the watch.
I have been unable to setup Samsung Pay at all - new Gear S3 Frontier + Lg G6
Everytime I click on the info int he Gear app - it says installing but nothing installs. Then when I click on the watch and hit open on phone the S3 plugin crashes

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I got a new debit card over a week ago and ever since I cannot get this new card verified with SPay for my Gear S watch! I've gotten it verified for my phone, however, no problem! I only wish it didn't have to be done once for the watch and once for the phone! Anybody else with this problem? The verifying center is no help at all, all they say is "Your token is activated"!
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This has suddenly become a problem for me as well. It seems every time they update the Samsung Pay Gear Plug-in app, it was disabling my card, and I was having to add it all over again. This last time, it won't let me add it.
Couple things:
- It works fine on Samsung Pay on the phone
- I've tried clearing cache and data
- I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling every Samsung Pay app - Phone, Gear Plug-in, and Framework
- Strange, when it fails (continuous spinning while trying to validate the card), it says Gear Not Responding, and my only option is to try again, or back up, where it tells me the card will be discarded. BUT, I get an email saying I've registered a new card?!?! (No card is available on the watch or showing in the plug-in app).
Samsung Pay help line says to factory reset the watch. Great, now every time they update the app I'm supposed to reset the watch and set everything back up the way I like it?! No thanks!
Any ideas?
arl16 said:
This has suddenly become a problem for me as well. It seems every time they update the Samsung Pay Gear Plug-in app, it was disabling my card, and I was having to add it all over again. This last time, it won't let me add it.
Couple things:
- It works fine on Samsung Pay on the phone
- I've tried clearing cache and data
- I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling every Samsung Pay app - Phone, Gear Plug-in, and Framework
- Strange, when it fails (continuous spinning while trying to validate the card), it says Gear Not Responding, and my only option is to try again, or back up, where it tells me the card will be discarded. BUT, I get an email saying I've registered a new card?!?! (No card is available on the watch or showing in the plug-in app).
Samsung Pay help line says to factory reset the watch. Great, now every time they update the app I'm supposed to reset the watch and set everything back up the way I like it?! No thanks!
Any ideas?
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It was my bank that finally figured out it was something on their end. I never got an explanation of the problem.

missing features in gear s3 frontier

hello forum,
I bought my gear s3 watch from a dealer, without a formal samsung warranty. i had no problems with it for it reduced few dollars.
but, unfortunately, although it all seem legit and the firmware is OK, and updates are going in, there are features which are unavailable.
such as, backup and restore, downloading apps directly to the watch, downloading watchfaces directly, keep getting annoying samsung account message, to verify changes in policy but can't actually verify it, going into galaxy apps in the gear, i get a message which instruct me to verify my identity in galaxy apps but when i tap "next" nothing happens...
so, is there a way to get it all right? the guy in the store told me that it is like this and allright
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Sounds like it had activation lock on it (not sure though, doesnt sound strict for activation lock) , would contact whoever's you bought it from and ask them to contact Samsung to have it removed if it is activation lock
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