Does anyone have any info on how a Verizon bought Pixel XL can get updates when being used on T-Mobile? I've seen people talking about how it wouldn't work without a VZW inside the device. I've seen other people say where it worked anyway. I've seen people talk about having to sideload some kind of OTA update and future updates came from Google? Can someone clarify?
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Since Best Buy is offering free Nexus S phones today with a contract I was thinking about picking one up. My question (and I've googled it, but been unable to find a definitive response) is whether or not sideloading apps works on the Nexus S with AT&T. I know they recently changed their policy regarding this, but I have been unable to find anything pertaining to this particular device.
yes this will work. ATT only locked down android phones that were distributed through ATT. The nexus S, does not come locked down like other ATT phones since google limits how much control carriers have with the nexus phones.
I bought a pixel from the google store. I was using it on verizon, now I'm on tmobile. I noticed the build version is NDE63X, is this just because I was using verizon and it updated to that build? I'm a little worried that I am going to keep getting the verizon version now even though I'm not on verizon anymore and that they will lock my bootloader.
Edit: On the pixel-xl forums it appears that others have experienced this as well. I guess I should start searching pixel xl as it seems you get better results that way.
If you update to a non Verizon build and you have a Verizon sim you will get an OTA update to the Verizon build
I can get the Verizon Pixel for a good deal. But I have some questions. Does the Verizon version allow side loading of updates? Also how much bloatware is on this version, and is there a ugly looking Verizon LOGO on the back of the phone? And if I wanted to put a T-Mobile sim in it, would it work? Also what about updates, does Verizon handle this or is it Google?
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falcon26 said:
I can get the Verizon Pixel for a good deal. But I have some questions. Does the Verizon version allow side loading of updates? Also how much bloatware is on this version, and is there a ugly looking Verizon LOGO on the back of the phone? And if I wanted to put a T-Mobile sim in it, would it work? Also what about updates, does Verizon handle this or is it Google?
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As long as the phone hasn't been updated to 7.1.1 you can us depixel8 to unlock the bootloader which will allow you to sideload the updates. There are no Verizon markings on the phone anywhere. When you put a Verizon sim in the phone will download 3 Verizon apps that are user removable, no other Verizon bloat. For updates, they're pushed at the same time regardless of if it's a Google store or Verizon store phone. My gf's Verizon phone receives them about a week after I do but others have stated that they come in at the same time. So as long as it hasn't been updated yet, you're good to go on all your questions. Only one I can't answer is the T-Mobile sim question but I'm pretty sure I've seen comments through the forums of people using them on T-Mobile.
falcon26 said:
I can get the Verizon Pixel for a good deal. But I have some questions. Does the Verizon version allow side loading of updates? Also how much bloatware is on this version, and is there a ugly looking Verizon LOGO on the back of the phone? And if I wanted to put a T-Mobile sim in it, would it work? Also what about updates, does Verizon handle this or is it Google?
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There are no Verizon markings on the phone, I didn't know that I couldn't update and still root and updated to 7.1.1. I went over a friend's house though and put in her T-Mobile sim and it seemed to work and let me make a call so I think the Verizon pixel is the same but after the update is just bootloader locked.
I have had my Verizon varient Google Pixel for a year now. I am on Android beta 8.1. Are any developers still experimenting and trying to find a way? Or has anyone already found a way? I have wanted to unlock this thing since day one. Please tell me someone out there is trying to find a way.
No one has tried that we are aware of since last fall.
No one's going to work on this, when you can just buy one from google that can be unlocked.
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Does anyone know if it will come with Android 7.1?
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No one's going to work on this, when you can just buy one from google that can be unlocked.
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Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
shagbag913 said:
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
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It's going to be updated for sure. Doubt they have any old stock left
shagbag913 said:
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
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It could come with 7.1,
But more likely something newer.
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Actually it has been reported on another thread that if it's a brand new Verizon Pixel, NEVER USED BEFORE, that you can put a different carrier sim in the phone and oem unlock will be available in developer settings to unlock bootloader. However if a Verizon sim is put in it prior to unlocking, it will never be able to be unlocked from what I read at following link. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
TheSayaMan said:
Actually it has been reported on another thread that if it's a brand new Verizon Pixel, NEVER USED BEFORE, that you can put a different carrier sim in the phone and oem unlock will be available in developer settings to unlock bootloader. However if a Verizon sim is put in it prior to unlocking, it will never be able to be unlocked from what I read at following link. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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Actually if you read through the thread carefully, the working theory is that VZW was out of stock and shipped out Google phones. If you have a Verizon phone on 7.1 you have options....if it's been updated you're out of luck.
Just so you guys know... It did end up coming with Android 7.1.2. No unlocking for me.
Actually, I realise they sent me a Google store varient and I am now rooted.
Yeah. I dumped mine once my replacement came with 7.1.1
Happy with the Essential for now.
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Is the Verizon Pixel 3 Bootloader Unlockable?!!??! Sorry if this is a known question it's just everywhere I search I can't seem to find a definitive answer on if the Verizon Pixel 3, not models bought directly from google carrier unlocked, are bootloader unlockable out of the box? Im trying to buy the Pixel through Verizon if I can bootloader unlock it as I know where I can get one without waiting for shipping but I don't want to if they arent unlockable out of the box.... Comments from anybody who knows or who has picked one up from Verizon are appreciated. Thanks
If you can't find the answer you aren't searching hard enough. No they cannot be unlocked. Verizon is and always will be locked down. It's possible someone will find an exploit at some point but never count on it. If you want to unlock the bootloader you need to buy it directly from Google.
Rick91981 said:
If you can't find the answer you aren't searching hard enough. No they cannot be unlocked. Verizon is and always will be locked down. It's possible someone will find an exploit at some point but never count on it. If you want to unlock the bootloader you need to buy it directly from Google.
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Searching google with "Verizon Pixel 3 bootloader unlock" yields results all saying the opposite for pixels 1 and 2, some devices for whatever reason could be unlocked right away and some a method came out relatively quickly for I just wasnt sure if there was any general consensus since this was for the pixel 1 and 2 not the 3 on Verizon.
There were eventually exploits found (and then patched by updates) for the older Pixels. The Verizon model is certainly without any doubt locked down and will not be able to be unlocked until(if) and exploit is found. There is even a thread on it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3/help/elephant-question-verizon-lock-t3855391
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There were eventually exploits found (and then patched by updates) for the older Pixels. The Verizon model is certainly without any doubt locked down and will not be able to be unlocked until(if) and exploit is found. There is even a thread on it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3/help/elephant-question-verizon-lock-t3855391
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See man I wish you had just said this from the start instead of being snarky because I looked for said thread everywhere but could not find it. Thanks you lol
jake.99x3 said:
See man I wish you had just said this from the start instead of being snarky because I looked for said thread everywhere but could not find it. Thanks you lol
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Wasn't trying to be snarky (ok, maybe a little lol). The discussion is just everywhere, surprised you couldn't find it with Google. For future reference though, if it has the work Verizon in it, you can very safely assume it is locked down. As a Verizon user, I wish it were different but at least the option of buying direct from Google exists.
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Wasn't trying to be snarky (ok, maybe a little lol). The discussion is just everywhere, surprised you couldn't find it with Google. For future reference though, if it has the work Verizon in it, you can very safely assume it is locked down. As a Verizon user, I wish it were different but at least the option of buying direct from Google exists.
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Yeah at least we are fortunate enough to be able to do it from google. I was just looking to do the monthly payments through Verizon but seems Ill need to get approved to do the same and buy with google so we'll see as I definitely am looking to bl unlock and rom.
I got my hands on a Verizon Pixel 3. I removed my sim, sideloaded ota, rebooted with project fi sim and I was able to unlock the bootloader. Now, this is without ever taking an update.
Did you ever activate on Verizon? People have tried making a "factory" Pixel 3 and removing the Sim to find Verizon stuff still on the phone! If the Verizon models is activated on another network it's unlockable? I only have Verizon service but do have an old ATT sim. People who didn't have Verizon but received a Verizon Pixel said they couldn't unlock the phone on any network.
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Did you ever activate on Verizon? People have tried making a "factory" Pixel 3 and removing the Sim to find Verizon stuff still on the phone! If the Verizon models is activated on another network it's unlockable? I only have Verizon service but do have an old ATT sim. People who didn't have Verizon but received a Verizon Pixel said they couldn't unlock the phone on any network.
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No, I booted to bootloader. Side loaded an OTA with project fi sim in it. (I believe it checks during flashing, just my opinion.)
Hmm, that's cool if your method really works
JCBiznatch said:
No, I booted to bootloader. Side loaded an OTA with project fi sim in it. (I believe it checks during flashing, just my opinion.)
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Have you heard of anyone else successfully use this method? Looks like you're the only one so far from what I'm reading on the bounty page...