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Can the Pixel be rooted?

I'm very confused. Some people say I can root it just like a nexus, some say that Google would just brick my phone, and I also heard I would need a custom ROM first. I'm super confused. Can anyone help me out please? Rooting is very important to me. Also it's the pixel XL if for some reason it could make a slight difference in what I would install/use.

OK. All pixels or pixels XL can be bootloader unlocked and rooted except for Verizon and EE variants running the 7.1.1.
Read in the dev section. It's much like a nexus, only thing is the two partitions need to be accounted for.
I'm running Dec 7.1.1 stock rooted with twrp. No issues at all.

Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.

aholeinthewor1d said:
Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.
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Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.

Squintz said:
Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.
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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued to block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.

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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued ro block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.
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Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay

aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay
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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.

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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.
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Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data

aholeinthewor1d said:
Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data
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You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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jreink01 said:
You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock

aholeinthewor1d said:
I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock
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OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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jreink01 said:
OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader

aholeinthewor1d said:
Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.

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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.

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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.
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^^^^
He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."

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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."
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True, but that is what they are doing. I've been on VZW for years. When I got mine they opened the package and went to insert the SIM and I told them to stop. They said "We have to make sure it activates before you leave the store". I said "No you don't, If you place a SIM in and activate it the deal and sale is off". Long story short I left with a device that did not get powered on. And this was at the VZW store, not a reseller.

I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.

mac796 said:
I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.

mac796 said:
I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.
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I should have bought from Google, too. Since I didn't the first thing I bought after getting the phone was the Defender case. Third device I've bought that case for and it hasn't let me down yet.

aholeinthewor1d said:
Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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It is pretty easy... Just buy your phone from Google. Verizon has nothing to do with it, be an adult and buy what you want.
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Google Store model screwed by Verizon update?

Hey folks! This forum has helped me so much in the past, but this is my first time posting here.
I had been using a Verizon Pixel since November with PN without any issues up until last week when the phone had an audio hardware failure and I had to RMA the device. I decided to process the RMA through Google directly, rather than risk ending up with a Verizon version of the phone with a locked down bootloader. After about a week of waiting, my replacement unit arrived today in the mail. The phone came with software version NOF26V, which is a non-Verizon build and should be unlockable.
I inserted my Verizon SIM card (poor choice) before booting it up without realizing that this would put it on the Verizon update path. I was trying to unlock my bootloader first thing, but after restarting the phone it automatically updated to NHG47O without any prompt or anything - WTF! So now I'm on a friggin Verizon build with a locked bootloader. Did I just ruin this thing? Is there any way to revert from NHG47O to the factory image? Does this phone now have a permanently locked bootloader?
Any suggestions? I wonder if Google would be willing to send me another one even though this was obviously my own fault....

That's not the way the way it works. The software version does not lock it. The IMEI is in a database that the phone talks to and gets permission to unlock. Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable. That is what they do if you send them a VZ phone. Not always, sometimes they send a google phone. But not often.
And yes, you are permanently locked. There is no going back.

Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
TonikJDK said:
Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
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Then you say
TonikJDK said:
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable.
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To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?

To be clear. You bought a Verizon device with the understanding it has a locked bootloader. That's what you got. If you don't like it, sell it. If you BUY a Google phone it's unlocked. Not if you get one thru replacement for your Verizon device. It's really that simple.
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CapriciousCrawdad said:
Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
Then you say
To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?
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The statements do not contradict each other.
Google shipped you a Verizon phone with NOF26V on it. That is 7.1.1, you would not have been able to unlock it even if you tried before it updated. If it had 7.1 on it, yes the old depixel8 method would have worked.

Alright, sorry for the misunderstanding and thank you for clarifying. I get it now. The phone would've only been unlockable via depixel8 on 7.1 (because it's a VZ model) and since it shipped with 7.1.1 I was SOL from the start.
Either Google support didn't understand what I was asking or they outright lied to me about my replacement being unlockable. I am sad.
In any case, I appreciate your help. Thanks for your patience.

Happy to help. I think Google is honest, the rep screwed up.

Question Purchased a Verizon variant through Google Store, paid in full... Fully unlocked in 60 days, or is this a trick?

I haven't purchased a new phone since before 802.11ax came out. It's been... a long time, to say the least.
I'm reading mixed signals. Can I unlock, root, and do whatever anyone else can do with this hardware - or will they strangle my balls still?

I'm on Verizon too, but purchased the unlocked version. The Verizon bootloaders have driven me nuts in the past...

Fully unlocked amas in carrier unlocked. Only way you can unlock the bootloader of a pixel 7 device in the USA is if you bought an u locked variant directly from Google. You can't unlock any Android device bought from Verizon.

Usually it means you can't unlock the bootloader but that's only after the first firmware update.
So if you don't update it and wait then it should work. That's how it went with the vzw variant of the pixel XL anyways... I bought 2 of them because like a dupe I let it update without even thinking.
Then I got another and before anything I unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp, got root and then put my sim card in and I manually installed Google's updates and everything was fine.
Dunno if that changed or not...but it will ship with the ability to unlock it, or should because it's flashed with the stock Google firmware

The above post only applies to the original Pixel 1.
When Verizon says "unlocked" they mean carrier unlocked.
You can only get a bootloader unlocked if you buy direct from Google and buy the Google version of the phone, not the Verizon one they list.

What @jdoe6783 and @TonikJDK said. When all United States carriers volunteer information about "unlocking", they only mean carrier unlocking - i.e. you can then use your Verizon Pixel 7 Pro on a different carrier.
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Will never be able to have their bootloader unlocked. It's like winning the lottery, and just as rare and relatively random. There is nothing that anyone on XDA can do to help you unlock your Verizon variant.
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Curious why you would even buy the carrier variant from the google store? I mean if you are paying in full, just buy the unlocked version.

Ok. Thank you, all. Once the device is carrier unlocked, will I be able to remove the Verizon bloatware? That's my biggest concern now. I can live with a locked bootloader as long as the provided OS allows me to control what software is and is not running.
I bought the carrier variant for a few reasons:
I've already settled on Verizon as my carrier for the long haul. I bounced around between MVNOs, Google Fi, and T-mobile before landing on Verizon ~18mo ago. It has been a better experience for a little less money after taking advantage of so many promotions - several of which hinge on my home ISP being Verizon as well.
The trade-in value is pretty solid. I don't value it at $700 like they say as it's really just $19/mo off my bill for 3 years. It's not clear to me what happens if I upgrade my device or decide to cancel service in that time... they just stop providing the discount?
I never felt the need to root my last phone. I did it for a while, and many of my necessary apps detected this and stopped working. I've gathered that this is something the community has addressed now, but it still speaks to the time/benefit of going through the process to root and try out different things that rooting enables. I have less time to research and try out various options than I once did. My suspicion is that I'll be happy enough with the factory OS. The only things that would change this would be if I cannot remove Verizon bloatware. I'm not forefiting that kind of control of my $1k phone for a $20/mo reimbursement.
mmWave sounds cool, but I'm not convinced it'll have a meaningful impact on my usage. Perhaps when I'm in a large city and there's congestion on the other bands... This is a very minor point.

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Curious why you would even buy the carrier variant from the google store? I mean if you are paying in full, just buy the unlocked version.
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agreed...
you can always buy the Google unlocked variant and just activate it on your carrier (in this case, Verizon as OP's carrier), instead of purchasing the specific carrier variant.
At the very least I plan on purchasing the unlocked variant and activating it on Verizon....
If anything, @SethW, if it is truly important to you to do all the additional "fun" stuff like root, tether, custom ROMs, and all the other stuff (like it is to many/most of us on this forum)...you should still be in the return period. You might want to try the route of returning it and purchasing the Google unlocked variant to be certain you can unlock the bootloader -- and therefore root and other things.
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@SethW's reply just popped up while I was replying and just got in right before my post, so I wanted to address it...
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Ok. Thank you, all. Once the device is carrier unlocked, will I be able to remove the Verizon bloatware? That's my biggest concern now. I can live with a locked bootloader as long as the provided OS allows me to control what software is and is not running.
I bought the carrier variant for a few reasons:
I've already settled on Verizon as my carrier for the long haul. I bounced around between MVNOs, Google Fi, and T-mobile before landing on Verizon ~18mo ago. It has been a better experience for a little less money after taking advantage of so many promotions - several of which hinge on my home ISP being Verizon as well.
....My suspicion is that I'll be happy enough with the factory OS. The only things that would change this would be if I cannot remove Verizon bloatware. I'm not forefiting that kind of control of my $1k phone for a $20/mo reimbursement.
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It's okay to be on Verizon. I've been with them for decades and okay with them. It's good that you tried out a bunch and have your reasons to use them. By all means, you can/should use the P7P with them.
But to address your other concerns about the Verizon bloatware -- I'm fairly certain if you purchased the carrier specific Verizon variant, it will have its bloatware and you will not be able to remove it. There might be tricks to hide & help ignore it, but [usually] you aren't going to be able to remove it (at least without root, which you will not be able to do since Verizon bootlocks their devices; also, if it were rootable, you would have an unlocked variant and would not have bloatware in the first place ) [fun fact: in the earliest days of Android smartphones, the whole reason to root one's phone was to get rid of said bloatware; now, one has to purchase directly from Google and get their variant to even get a chance to root outside of carrier control]. Now I've never purchased a carrier variant from Google nor have I met anyone who has, so it might be different since you purchased it from Google store and not Verizon store, but I can't imagine Verizon wouldn't hold Google to their restrictions even if it's from Google's store -- I mean, what's the difference/purpose selling a carrier variant without any of said carrier's restrictions when Google could just sell Google's unlocked variant and just load it on the carrier's network?
TL;DR If it's a carrier (Verizon) variant, it most likely will have the carrier's bloatware; and you cannot remove it; even if the OS is as customizable as Android.

I'm definitely thinking about a return already. The agreements states 'unlocked after 60 days' which I read as fully unlocked, rather than some partial unlocking they've come up with. It really hinges on whether or not I can fully control the OS of the phone after it's 'carrier' unlocked.
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Well then. Returning it for sure. Didn't even think to mention ad-blocking apps and such but I rely on those. Makes my stomach turn when I see someone using a device without robust ad-blocking. Without root, that's probably on the chopping block too.

SethW said:
I'm definitely thinking about a return already. The agreements states 'unlocked after 60 days' which I read as fully unlocked, rather than some partial unlocking they've come up with. It really hinges on whether or not I can fully control the OS of the phone after it's 'carrier' unlocked.
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Keep in mind, it's not just Verizon. All U.S. carriers, when they say unlocked, they only mean carrier unlocked. It's not just something Verizon came up with. As far as they're concerned, it will be fully unlocked.
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Well then. Returning it for sure. Didn't even think to mention ad-blocking apps and such but I rely on those. Makes my stomach turn when I see someone using a device without robust ad-blocking. Without root, that's probably on the chopping block too.
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Good luck with your return and re-purchase!

simplepinoi177 said:
you can always buy the Google unlocked variant and just activate it on your carrier (in this case, Verizon as OP's carrier), instead of purchasing the specific carrier variant.
At the very least I plan on purchasing the unlocked variant and activating it on Verizon....
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The unlocked phone from Amazon is the same as the unlocked one from Google, isn't it?

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The unlocked phone from Amazon is the same as the unlocked one from Google, isn't it?
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Wi1son said:
The unlocked phone from Amazon is the same as the unlocked one from Google, isn't it?
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Also, if you check the Amazon description, under "Wireless Carrier", it states "Unlocked", so it's a safe bet that it's actually unlocked like the Google variant and not the way carrier's state "unlocked" like it's not "contractually bound" or "locked" to the carrier....

If you have the Verizon model, you can disable some of the VZW bloatware with ADB, but not all of it. If you disable some of the VZW specific packages, it won't boot and you will have to go through recovery. I was really annoyed when I found out that I couldn't unlock the bootloader on the VZW model of my Pixel 3XL. On my previous phone I had relied on particular mods to make my life easier (I'm unilaterally deaf).
I would certainly return it for the unlocked Google version while the window is open, just in case you ever need to unlock the bootloader.

Refused delivery and requested FedEx return it to sender - as instructed by Google Support. In spite of this, FedEx tried to delivery every day for the past week. They're finally sending it back to Google. I suspect they'll refund it soon. I'm really annoyed that I'm apparently going to miss out on the $200 google store promotion. I was looking forward to trying out the pro earbuds for free.

Question Sweet merciful Jesus is the Verizon bootloader still permalocked?

How has nobody found a solution to this? Surely it's a software thing. You'd have thought some badass member somewhere with enough of a chip on their shoulder against Verizon would have figured a way around this.
Too bad there isn't a bounty for it.

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How has nobody found a solution to this? Surely it's a software thing. You'd have thought some badass member somewhere with enough of a chip on their shoulder against Verizon would have figured a way around this.
Too bad there isn't a bounty for it.
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I doubt it is a simple or easy as it being simply a "software thing", and I completely believe it could/would never be done...but @wr3cckl3ss1 is on the case!
you can see a bit of how he's progressing HERE and HERE and HERE

It's unfortunate; this was actually the reason I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile lol. It appears the Verizon variant of the Pixel 6 remained locked all this time so I wouldn't bet on much different with the Pixel 7 :/ Hopefully somebody finds something for those with the VZW variant.

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I doubt it is a simple or easy as it being simply a "software thing", and I completely believe it could/would never be done...but @wr3cckl3ss1 is on the case!
you can see a bit of how he's progressing HERE and HERE and HERE
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Nice!
Surely it couldn't be a hardware lock!?

Does anyone know how to read and interpret a Magisk log? And can show or tell me what's missing

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Nice!
Surely it couldn't be a hardware lock!?
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The issue here is 2 java applets.....nothing hardware.

Too bad we didn't have a Verizon inside agent. Tell us wtf they do to lock it. Because isn't that against Googles Tos? It's sold as an unlock able device.

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Too bad we didn't have a Verizon inside agent. Tell us wtf they do to lock it. Because isn't that against Googles Tos? It's sold as an unlock able device.
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It's Verizon that demands it. But it's Google's own code that puts the lock in place...so they're both at fault.

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It's Verizon that demands it. But it's Google's own code that puts the lock in place...so they're both at fault.
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Weird. Strange that this would still be a thing. Not like the device was cheap to purchase.

My question is why is Verizon so "gung-ho" about it? More than any other carrier (other carriers eventually allow to unlock the bootloader)? I could understand when they used to repair their own devices (so they didn't want the liability and the headaches of when customers messed with the devices); but that's the not the case anymore. Outside of their greedy archaic grasp on tethering and to load unremovable bloatware, I don't know what they have to fear of unlocked bootloaders & root access.

Who knows.
I'm willing to throw money towards a bounty that removes Verizons strangle hold on devices. I don't mind their service, and the signal is good where I live, but I like customization. And I'd love to try some new kernals to change up the CPU scheduler and power plans to stop the phone from bringing the 4 big cores online for casual use.

Just get the unlocked version and use with Verizon service. What's the upside with having the Verizon variant?

Because it's not that simple. You can't swappa sell a phone you're making any payments towards. And the phone is too new for trade in with another carrier of any type.

VZW variants have been locked since the OG Pixel days aside from that small window before taking an OTA you could unlock if it was on a certain version. Sadly I don't see this changing anytime soon and if you want to unlock BL and root get the unlocked version from the Google Store. There's really little incentive buying Pixels from Verizon now. With Pixel Pass and Google Store financing those are good options if you can't drop all the money up front.

Just buy the unlocked model. Some retailers have awesome trade in deals coming from the 6 series or iPhones. It works just as well on Verizon and avoids the 36 month committment.

I hate how Verizon shuts down the option for unlocking the bootloader and rooting, but it is easier to purchase a device from them because your payments will coincide with your regular monthly cell bill, you already pass the credit check when you open an account with them (no need to apply for one with Google Synchrony Financing), and I just went through with this with my wife's phone but unless you qualify enough to cover the Pixel (my wife qualified for the Pixel 7, not the P7P at the storage capacity we wanted), you're stuck paying all (up to $1400 [P7P 512GB w/ 2 year protection & tax]) up front -- where there's virtually no risk of this if you purchase through Verizon (they want to lock you in to years-long contract and you already passed the credit check)! So there's (some of) the benefits....
*but it's still more worth it beyond any of these "benefits" to get it from Google Store unlocked....

Lol. Here's a simple solution. Buy the unlocked version. Who changes carriers because of a bl lock? WTF?

At this point I think we all know that Verizon isn't going to unlock the Bootloader. if you want an unlocked bootloader, it is easier, and more guaranteed to just buy the unlocked version from Google vs trying to find vulnerabilities in the bootloader and having to worry about it being patched each month.

Not sure if this is still in effect, but many years ago, if you purchased an unlocked phone instead of the Verizon branded one, WiFi calling wouldn't work. I'm not sure if there was something missing from the phone that Verizon needed to make it happen, or if Verizon was just screwing over those who purchased unlocked versions.

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Not sure if this is still in effect, but many years ago, if you purchased an unlocked phone instead of the Verizon branded one, WiFi calling wouldn't work. I'm not sure if there was something missing from the phone that Verizon needed to make it happen, or if Verizon was just screwing over those who purchased unlocked versions.
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it's working perfectly fine with my device....it also worked with my Pixel 5 (also unlocked variant from Google Store)....

Question OEM unlocking on a Pixel 7 pro? Verizon

Any tips on how to enabling the OEM unlocking on a Pixel 7 pro? Verizon

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Any tips on how to enabling the OEM unlocking on a Pixel 7 pro? Verizon
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You can't unlock the bootloader on Verizon models.

Wow, not all? No hacks or anything.

Nope

Well that sucks, I guess i have to take this dam thing back.

How about T-Mobile? Unlock bootloader option is greyed out

Beddadizi619 said:
How about T-Mobile? Unlock bootloader option is greyed out
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That's how the Verizon one is. I've seen some video on youtube on how to possibly enable it.... but nothing works. Lughnasadh is correct.

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How about T-Mobile? Unlock bootloader option is greyed out
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For T-Mobile you have to be carrier unlocked first before you can unlock the bootloader. This usually involves paying off the phone and then contacting the carrier to have them Carrier unlock it.

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How about T-Mobile? Unlock bootloader option is greyed out
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I got my pixel 7 pro sim unlocked through the chat function of the T-Mobile app. From there I was able to enable OEM unlock. No need to pay it off, just try and get a good rep in the chat/be abundantly friendly

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You have to get TMobile to do a permanent sim/network unlock. They do it over the phone. They make you follow specific rules though, device has to be payed off and you have to have been with T-mobile for a specific amount of time...... If you get a tech support guy who just doesn't care then you may get lucky. I just kept calling until someone did it for me.

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You can't unlock the bootloader on Verizon models.
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Could have if they rooted before letting the phone be booted with a sim card. Verizon carrier unlocks at 6 months paid off or not. You don't have to ask it just happens but if you need to be 100% sure then ask.
I remember getting the first XL and without thinking I booted it up with the sim, it updated and bye bye unlock bootloader option. Thankfully my son also wanted one so we just swapped. I rooted before anything else, then put my sim in and didn't use ota updates because I didn't want the bloat from Verizon.

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Could have if they rooted before letting the phone be booted with a sim card. Verizon carrier unlocks at 6 months paid off or not. You don't have to ask it just happens but if you need to be 100% sure then ask.
I remember getting the first XL and without thinking I booted it up with the sim, it updated and bye bye unlock bootloader option. Thankfully my son also wanted one so we just swapped. I rooted before anything else, then put my sim in and didn't use ota updates because I didn't want the bloat from Verizon.
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That was for the OG XL. We're talking about the Pixel 7/Pro here (also applies to the 3-6 series as well)(some say they found an exploit for the 2). Carrier unlocking is irrelevant in this case.

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That was for the OG XL. We're talking about the Pixel 7/Pro here (also applies to the 3-6 series as well)(some say they found an exploit for the 2). Carrier unlocking is irrelevant in this case.
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Changed it again huh? I know carrier unlocking is irrelevant but they were talking about it and I knew the vzw info because I had them unlock a phone then they pushed an app to it and that was that.
I have 2 7 pros I need to root that will be going on Verizon but I'm not putting the sim in until I'm done setting up either way. It's bloat free and staying that way. I'm probably switching to fi if the service is good here. I'll save a ton of money on just 2 lines.

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Changed it again huh? I know carrier unlocking is irrelevant but they were talking about it and I knew the vzw info because I had them unlock a phone then they pushed an app to it and that was that.
I have 2 7 pros I need to root that will be going on Verizon but I'm not putting the sim in until I'm done setting up either way. It's bloat free and staying that way. I'm probably switching to fi if the service is good here. I'll save a ton of money on just 2 lines.
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It doesn't matter if you put the SIM in yet or not. What matters is where you got the phone from - each carrier has a different model number. Did you get the phones from Verizon? Then you're out of luck, no bootloader unlocking, no root. Did you get them from Google? Then it's easy, just follow guides on here.
And as others have mentioned, T-Mobile allows you to unlock your phone but it almost always requires that you have the device on active line for 60 days and that you have paid for it in full.

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It doesn't matter if you put the SIM in yet or not. What matters is where you got the phone from - each carrier has a different model number. Did you get the phones from Verizon? Then you're out of luck, no bootloader unlocking, no root. Did you get them from Google? Then it's easy, just follow guides on here.
And as others have mentioned, T-Mobile allows you to unlock your phone but it almost always requires that you have the device on active line for 60 days and that you have paid for it in full.
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Of course not, I don't trust Verizon for even a brief second. I bought a non carrier variant at best buy. I also bought a fi sim because I want to quit Verizon. We pay something like $158 a month for 2 lines and 4 gigs of shared data. Here they have the best service by far but I'm near wifi 99% of the day so it's not a worry.
Hell last month we used 0.68 gigs of data though I saved 30 using Adguard.
I've been rooting since the G1 so I don't forsee any problems but I'm looking for changes like you mentioned and others have...
Really miss those days especially once the Nexus one was out.
Everything was easier to do and there were tons of custom ROM options. With TWRP I'd make an image then flash a new ROM and possibly kernel and be tinkering in settings in under 3 min. It's a shame the scene has shrunk so much but there is still tons of quality stuff which is always nice.

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We pay something like $158 a month for 2 lines and 4 gigs of shared data.
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Wow that's crazy. I pay that same amount for 6 lines on TMobile with unlimited everything.
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Everything was easier to do and there were tons of custom ROM options. With TWRP I'd make an image then flash a new ROM and possibly kernel and be tinkering in settings in under 3 min. It's a shame the scene has shrunk so much but there is still tons of quality stuff which is always nice.
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The old days are gone unfortunately. People should consider themselves lucky if they can even get a custom recovery for their device.
I'm perfectly happy with stock Pixel rom. The only reason I root is for custom kernel and some extra control over the apps on my device.
The benefits of rooting and/or unlocking the bootloader have diminished greatly overtime.

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We pay something like $158 a month for 2 lines and 4 gigs of shared data.
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Not sure what plan your on? We're on Verizon and pay that for 4 lines with unlimited everything.

Apparently even AFTER Carrier Unlocking Pixel 7 Pro, Bootloader is NOT Unlockable, under any circumstance. VZW is pointing at Google and Google is pointing at VZW. I am waiting for a reply or call back from a Google Supervisor, because it should be clearly noted on the VZW Box that even after Carrier Unlocking device, BL CANNOT be Unlocked under any circumstance. I smell a class action lawsuit against Google and/or VZW for Pixel Customers who are unable to OEM Unlock Devices after Carrier Unlocking. Anyone want in? I am hoping I get the right Google Supervisor who will warranty exchange device for another Unlocked or any other Branded Pixel 7 Pro....

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Apparently even AFTER Carrier Unlocking Pixel 7 Pro, Bootloader is NOT Unlockable, under any circumstance. VZW is pointing at Google and Google is pointing at VZW. I am waiting for a reply or call back from a Google Supervisor, because it should be clearly noted on the VZW Box that even after Carrier Unlocking device, BL CANNOT be Unlocked under any circumstance. I smell a class action lawsuit against Google and/or VZW for Pixel Customers who are unable to OEM Unlock Devices after Carrier Unlocking. Anyone want in? I am hoping I get the right Google Supervisor who will warranty exchange device for another Unlocked or any other Branded Pixel 7 Pro....
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Good luck getting a class action because you can't bootloader unlock your phone. It's been this way with phones on Verizon for many years now. Never buy a Verizon branded phone if you want to unlock the bootloader.

AndroidAddict420 said:
Apparently even AFTER Carrier Unlocking Pixel 7 Pro, Bootloader is NOT Unlockable, under any circumstance. VZW is pointing at Google and Google is pointing at VZW. I am waiting for a reply or call back from a Google Supervisor, because it should be clearly noted on the VZW Box that even after Carrier Unlocking device, BL CANNOT be Unlocked under any circumstance. I smell a class action lawsuit against Google and/or VZW for Pixel Customers who are unable to OEM Unlock Devices after Carrier Unlocking. Anyone want in? I am hoping I get the right Google Supervisor who will warranty exchange device for another Unlocked or any other Branded Pixel 7 Pro....
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Buying devices from carriers (specifically from AT&T or Verizon) and expecting them to have an unlockable bootloader: https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14AAAAM/hysterical-laughter.gif