Google Store model screwed by Verizon update? - Google Pixel Questions & Answers

Hey folks! This forum has helped me so much in the past, but this is my first time posting here.
I had been using a Verizon Pixel since November with PN without any issues up until last week when the phone had an audio hardware failure and I had to RMA the device. I decided to process the RMA through Google directly, rather than risk ending up with a Verizon version of the phone with a locked down bootloader. After about a week of waiting, my replacement unit arrived today in the mail. The phone came with software version NOF26V, which is a non-Verizon build and should be unlockable.
I inserted my Verizon SIM card (poor choice) before booting it up without realizing that this would put it on the Verizon update path. I was trying to unlock my bootloader first thing, but after restarting the phone it automatically updated to NHG47O without any prompt or anything - WTF! So now I'm on a friggin Verizon build with a locked bootloader. Did I just ruin this thing? Is there any way to revert from NHG47O to the factory image? Does this phone now have a permanently locked bootloader?
Any suggestions? I wonder if Google would be willing to send me another one even though this was obviously my own fault....

That's not the way the way it works. The software version does not lock it. The IMEI is in a database that the phone talks to and gets permission to unlock. Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable. That is what they do if you send them a VZ phone. Not always, sometimes they send a google phone. But not often.
And yes, you are permanently locked. There is no going back.

Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
TonikJDK said:
Your phone was already on a newer version....it would not have unlocked.
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Then you say
TonikJDK said:
Google sent you a phone tagged as a VZ phone.... unlockable.
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To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?

To be clear. You bought a Verizon device with the understanding it has a locked bootloader. That's what you got. If you don't like it, sell it. If you BUY a Google phone it's unlocked. Not if you get one thru replacement for your Verizon device. It's really that simple.
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CapriciousCrawdad said:
Hey TonikJDK, thanks for the response.
I'm sorry, but I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. First you say
Then you say
To be clear - I spoke with a Google Rep about receiving a replacement phone from Google specifically because I wanted to have an unlockable bootloader and I was assured that my replacement would be unlockable. I am trying to understand but it seems to me that the quotes above contradict each other. Are you saying that I wouldn't have been able to unlock the device even if I hadn't accidentally installed the VZ update?
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The statements do not contradict each other.
Google shipped you a Verizon phone with NOF26V on it. That is 7.1.1, you would not have been able to unlock it even if you tried before it updated. If it had 7.1 on it, yes the old depixel8 method would have worked.

Alright, sorry for the misunderstanding and thank you for clarifying. I get it now. The phone would've only been unlockable via depixel8 on 7.1 (because it's a VZ model) and since it shipped with 7.1.1 I was SOL from the start.
Either Google support didn't understand what I was asking or they outright lied to me about my replacement being unlockable. I am sad.
In any case, I appreciate your help. Thanks for your patience.

Happy to help. I think Google is honest, the rep screwed up.

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Verizon Moto G Unlock Bootloader / Root?

Does anyone know if the Verizon version of the Moto G can be easily unlocked and rooted like the GSM version? Knowing Verizon's track record with locked down devices I wouldn't be surprised if it can't be unlocked. I'm thinking about buying one as a wifi/media device for my car, but I'd also like to play around with dev on it so a non-unlockable bootloader would be a deal breaker.
detonation said:
Does anyone know if the Verizon version of the Moto G can be easily unlocked and rooted like the GSM version? Knowing Verizon's track record with locking down devices I wouldn't be surprised if it is locked. I'm thinking about buying one as a wifi/media device for my car, but I'd also like to play around with dev on it so a locked bootloader would be a deal breaker.
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Just to be clear, *all* Moto Gs (GSM) ship with locked bootloaders, even if you buy one that is factory SIM-unlocked, but Motorola offers a way to unlock the bootloader on the phone (for free) via their web site after you register it and request an unlock code. In the U.S., doing so voids your hardware warranty.
So the question isn't whether or not the Verizon model will have a locked bootloader or not. It surely will, as they all do. The question is whether Motorola's on-line bootloader unlocker will work with Verizon-branded CDMA model or not. And at this point, given that it hasn't been released yet and nobody has one, how is anybody supposed to answer that question?
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nlra said:
Just to be clear, *all* Moto Gs (GSM) ship with locked bootloaders, even if you buy one that is factory SIM-unlocked, but Motorola offers a way to unlock the bootloader on the phone (for free) via their web site after you register it and request an unlock code. In the U.S., doing so voids your hardware warranty.
So the question isn't whether or not the Verizon model will have a locked bootloader or not. It surely will, as they all do. The question is whether Motorola's on-line bootloader unlocker will work with Verizon-branded CDMA model or not. And at this point, given that it hasn't been released yet and nobody has one, how is anybody supposed to answer that question?
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It's actually available in some Best Buys right now and I think I've seen a few people say they've picked one up. I also updated the OP to use the right terminology though I'm sure everyone knew what I meant anyway.
detonation said:
It's actually available in some Best Buys right now and I think I've seen a few people say they've picked one up. I also updated the OP to use the right terminology though I'm sure everyone knew what I meant anyway.
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I was able to purchase one last night at my local Best Buy after proving to them that they were in fact somewhere in the store, and waiting for them to call their Verizon rep, I just attempted the bootloader unlock on the Motorola Developer (official bootloader unlock) and I can confirm that it is not eligible for unlock at this time. Huge letdown for me as I was gonna get one for myself soon, but the wife won't really care about it being unlocked so for her it's still a good deal.
I purchased the moto G today and it says it is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
I was able to get past the activation screen and not activate it.
Every time I turn the phone on it does ask for activation. Wish I could get rid of this...
Anybody have a way to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon version?
I am waiting for unlock and root for VZW version too before I get it
Moto-G bootloader...
I was fat and happy to buy a pair of these when they became available in my area, but not being able to unlock the bootloader, and also not able to obtain the code from Circle-M, has forced us to begin looking at other devices, and forget the 'G'.
Too bad, I was really looking forward to expanding its horizons, but not if the game is to maintain a lock on my own device, no thank you!
Moto G 》VZW 》Get past the activation screen
MustangChris04 said:
I purchased the moto G today and it says it is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
I was able to get past the activation screen and not activate it.
Every time I turn the phone on it does ask for activation. Wish I could get rid of this...
Anybody have a way to unlock the bootloader on the Verizon version?
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How did get past the activation screen? Trying to use the moto g as a wifi/media only device. TIA
I got the US CDMA version for BoostMobile & had it unlocked 'n rooted w/in minutes of unboxing yesterday.
You sure you're entering the serial # correctly?
(I didn't take out all of the spaces the first time and got denied, then fixed it & unlocked)
Good luck!
kr338r said:
I got the US CDMA version for BoostMobile & had it unlocked 'n rooted w/in minutes of unboxing yesterday.
You sure you're entering the serial # correctly?
(I didn't take out all of the spaces the first time and got denied, then fixed it & unlocked)
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I thought BoostMobile runs on Sprint's network?
there is no boost version that I'm aware of..
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motrinHD said:
there is no boost version that I'm aware of..
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Wait, but there is more...
http://www.hsn.com/products/motorola-moto-g-45-quad-core-no-contract-smartphone/7347964
So I'm very seriously thinking of getting one
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So this may be a dumb question, but would it be possible to unlock the bootloader of a Boost Moto G and flash it to Verizon?
S_transform said:
So this may be a dumb question, but would it be possible to unlock the bootloader of a Boost Moto G and flash it to Verizon?
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I believe you can't flash a Boost CDMA phone and use it on Verizon (and vice versa): CDMA phones don't have SIM card to identify carriers; instead the carriers keep a database of admissable IMEI. Boost IMEI obviously not on Verizon's database, in which case you are stuck.
(Feel free to correct me, but please hold your flame )
kr338r said:
I got the US CDMA version for BoostMobile & had it unlocked 'n rooted w/in minutes of unboxing yesterday.
You sure you're entering the serial # correctly?
(I didn't take out all of the spaces the first time and got denied, then fixed it & unlocked)
Good luck!
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Can anyone with the Verizon version confirm that this works?
Just attempted to on a VZW MotoG with no success.
Well thats a bummer. I tried to unlock it but seem to have problems with the fastboot drivers on my pc. Ill mess with it a little bit later and post the results.
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How did get past the activation screen? Trying to use the moto g as a wifi/media only device. TIA
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You have to activate it and get a phone number to get past that screen. You dont have to pay anything, just select "pay later" both time it asks you. It'll give you a number and then you can connect to wifi to do the rest of the steps.
Altering the setup app in any way thereafter reboots the phone, so you'll always have the activate app in your drawer. Thanks, Verizon.
Verizon is ONE BIG PILE Horse-Chit.. I hate that company with a passion...
So I moved my Family to T-Mo and bought 2 Nexus 5's and 2 Moto G's!
I will NEVER-EVER go back to Verizon... EVER!
They are the most archaic, backward and Xpensive carrier in North America
Pleas do yourself a favor and leave that - HORRIBLE effin COMPANY
P.S. I REPEAT - I will NEVER-EVER go back to Verizon... EVER
Visit this site and read the horror stories: http://verizarape.com/

Can the Pixel be rooted?

I'm very confused. Some people say I can root it just like a nexus, some say that Google would just brick my phone, and I also heard I would need a custom ROM first. I'm super confused. Can anyone help me out please? Rooting is very important to me. Also it's the pixel XL if for some reason it could make a slight difference in what I would install/use.
OK. All pixels or pixels XL can be bootloader unlocked and rooted except for Verizon and EE variants running the 7.1.1.
Read in the dev section. It's much like a nexus, only thing is the two partitions need to be accounted for.
I'm running Dec 7.1.1 stock rooted with twrp. No issues at all.
Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Have you looked in the development forum at all?
If you have a pixel from Google you can unlock the bootloader and root it.
If you have a Verizon pixel you can only root if the bootloader is unlocked. The only way you can u look k the bootloader is if you are on 7.1. if you have updated to 7.1.1 you cannot unlock the bootloader therefore you can't root.
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Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.
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Is anyone working on a bootloader unlock for 7.1.1 on VZ? Just got my Pixel today and took the update before I knew better.
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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued to block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.
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To my knowledge there is no one working on an unlock for the VZW devices on 7.1.1. The "method" previously used was stumbled across. Even though I am unsure of how Verizon blocks enabling bootloader unlocking I very highly doubt that a new method will be found. Every device in Verizon's history that could either be exploited or had an unlocked method exposed had a patch issued ro block it. Once patched there has never been a second exploit found.
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Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay
aholeinthewor1d said:
Yea Verizon sucks. S3 and s5 both eventually were unlocked and stayed that eay
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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.
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I completely agree. The first S4 was released with the MDK bootloader. Loki was the exploit. That device lived to see both an AOSP 7.1 and OptimizedCM 14.1. The first OTA they pushed blocked it and many were quite upset. A new method was never discovered. Not sure if Big Red still uses the same "excuse" as back then but they claimed they were protecting network security. Blow that smoke up someone else's ***. I'm not so easily suckered.
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Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data
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Yup and now I'm stuck with them unless I wanna give up unlimited data
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You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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jreink01 said:
You could always return that and buy a pixel from Google, you could still use it on Verizon and i would think still keep your plan.
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I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock
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I already unlocked my bootloader so I'm good thankfully. Just in general I am sick of Verizon cause most of the time we can't unlock bootloader. Got lucky with the pixel for a little. Sucks for new people getting it though who can't unlock
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OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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jreink01 said:
OK, with that being said, your probably out of luck on rooting then. Was just providing another possible option.
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Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
aholeinthewor1d said:
Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.
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That's not the only things that sucks for those still waiting and wanting to unlock. I am hearing of clerks in the store activating them before giving it to the customer. They are buying an unlocked device and being given a locked device.
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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's normal procedure for any carrier. You get a phone they open it and try to activate and test. You just have to say "WAIT" and explain that you have to change a setting before activating. Then take sim out and skip everything and turn off auto updates in developer options. Use your best judgement based on the rep you are dealing with. With best buy before even going there to exchange my pixel.. I thankfully got someone who did the same tinkering I did with phone so I was honest with him and I got him to exchange my phone straight out.. without having to do the whole return thing with verizom and mess up my plan. I also examined why I had to take the SIM out and not active and he was cool with it. I walked in and have him my box and he gave me another and that was it haha.
But dealing with verizon you could simple say you heard the update causes issues so you wanna test without it first.. if they say no then argue. They may be required to activate but they definitely don't have any kind of policy that says you can't skip activation during setup and do it right after.
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He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."
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It depends on whether or not you're dealing with a knowledgeable Verizon Corporate Store associate (I don't deal with authorized resellers.) He does not have to open the box to activate the phone. He's required to record the IMEI and the SIM IDs, but those values are printed on the box for the last 2 years. The majority of the time, I walk out with still-shrinkwrapped phones. (Obviously, that doesn't guarantee that that particular phone still has an unlockable firmware.)
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He is dead on. You can simply say "I don't want it unwrapped."
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True, but that is what they are doing. I've been on VZW for years. When I got mine they opened the package and went to insert the SIM and I told them to stop. They said "We have to make sure it activates before you leave the store". I said "No you don't, If you place a SIM in and activate it the deal and sale is off". Long story short I left with a device that did not get powered on. And this was at the VZW store, not a reseller.
I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.
mac796 said:
I was told at the Verizon store when I got mine, as long as you go to the big corporate store they don't have to set it up, but If you go to the little retail ones they do. I put my sim card in. Had absolutely no problem. I just didn't click on the 7.1.1 update. it didn't automatically update while I set it up. I got home and unlocked. What worries me the most is me going and breaking this thing and getting another one past 7.11, I really wish I would have gone through Google.
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Yup that's my fear to. If I ever have an issue and need a replacement I'm screwed.
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I should have bought from Google, too. Since I didn't the first thing I bought after getting the phone was the Defender case. Third device I've bought that case for and it hasn't let me down yet.
aholeinthewor1d said:
Not sure what you are talking about. I have a Verizon pixel with unlocked bootloader and I am rooted. I was just stating that on general I hate Verizon because they require bootloaders to be locked. We got lucky with the pixel because there was an exploit found to unlock it..Which is how I was able to unlock mine.
Now that the recent update patched the exploit it sucks for other people getting Verizon pixels cause once they ship with the update they will not be able to unlock bootloader
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It is pretty easy... Just buy your phone from Google. Verizon has nothing to do with it, be an adult and buy what you want.
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Is anyone working on a way to unlock the Verizon Google Pixel's bootloader still?

I have had my Verizon varient Google Pixel for a year now. I am on Android beta 8.1. Are any developers still experimenting and trying to find a way? Or has anyone already found a way? I have wanted to unlock this thing since day one. Please tell me someone out there is trying to find a way.
No one has tried that we are aware of since last fall.
No one's going to work on this, when you can just buy one from google that can be unlocked.
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Does anyone know if it will come with Android 7.1?
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No one's going to work on this, when you can just buy one from google that can be unlocked.
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Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
shagbag913 said:
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
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It's going to be updated for sure. Doubt they have any old stock left
shagbag913 said:
Well I'm getting a replacement this Wednesday due to a manufacturing defect. Do you know if it will come with Android 7.1 or is Verizon updating them before packaging?
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It could come with 7.1,
But more likely something newer.
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Actually it has been reported on another thread that if it's a brand new Verizon Pixel, NEVER USED BEFORE, that you can put a different carrier sim in the phone and oem unlock will be available in developer settings to unlock bootloader. However if a Verizon sim is put in it prior to unlocking, it will never be able to be unlocked from what I read at following link. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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Actually it has been reported on another thread that if it's a brand new Verizon Pixel, NEVER USED BEFORE, that you can put a different carrier sim in the phone and oem unlock will be available in developer settings to unlock bootloader. However if a Verizon sim is put in it prior to unlocking, it will never be able to be unlocked from what I read at following link. https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/help/bootloader-unlock-verizon-pixels-t3616101
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Actually if you read through the thread carefully, the working theory is that VZW was out of stock and shipped out Google phones. If you have a Verizon phone on 7.1 you have options....if it's been updated you're out of luck.
Just so you guys know... It did end up coming with Android 7.1.2. No unlocking for me.
Actually, I realise they sent me a Google store varient and I am now rooted.
Yeah. I dumped mine once my replacement came with 7.1.1
Happy with the Essential for now.
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Verizon Pixel 3s

Is the Verizon Pixel 3 Bootloader Unlockable?!!??! Sorry if this is a known question it's just everywhere I search I can't seem to find a definitive answer on if the Verizon Pixel 3, not models bought directly from google carrier unlocked, are bootloader unlockable out of the box? Im trying to buy the Pixel through Verizon if I can bootloader unlock it as I know where I can get one without waiting for shipping but I don't want to if they arent unlockable out of the box.... Comments from anybody who knows or who has picked one up from Verizon are appreciated. Thanks
If you can't find the answer you aren't searching hard enough. No they cannot be unlocked. Verizon is and always will be locked down. It's possible someone will find an exploit at some point but never count on it. If you want to unlock the bootloader you need to buy it directly from Google.
Rick91981 said:
If you can't find the answer you aren't searching hard enough. No they cannot be unlocked. Verizon is and always will be locked down. It's possible someone will find an exploit at some point but never count on it. If you want to unlock the bootloader you need to buy it directly from Google.
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Searching google with "Verizon Pixel 3 bootloader unlock" yields results all saying the opposite for pixels 1 and 2, some devices for whatever reason could be unlocked right away and some a method came out relatively quickly for I just wasnt sure if there was any general consensus since this was for the pixel 1 and 2 not the 3 on Verizon.
There were eventually exploits found (and then patched by updates) for the older Pixels. The Verizon model is certainly without any doubt locked down and will not be able to be unlocked until(if) and exploit is found. There is even a thread on it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3/help/elephant-question-verizon-lock-t3855391
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There were eventually exploits found (and then patched by updates) for the older Pixels. The Verizon model is certainly without any doubt locked down and will not be able to be unlocked until(if) and exploit is found. There is even a thread on it here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-3/help/elephant-question-verizon-lock-t3855391
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See man I wish you had just said this from the start instead of being snarky because I looked for said thread everywhere but could not find it. Thanks you lol
jake.99x3 said:
See man I wish you had just said this from the start instead of being snarky because I looked for said thread everywhere but could not find it. Thanks you lol
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Wasn't trying to be snarky (ok, maybe a little lol). The discussion is just everywhere, surprised you couldn't find it with Google. For future reference though, if it has the work Verizon in it, you can very safely assume it is locked down. As a Verizon user, I wish it were different but at least the option of buying direct from Google exists.
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Wasn't trying to be snarky (ok, maybe a little lol). The discussion is just everywhere, surprised you couldn't find it with Google. For future reference though, if it has the work Verizon in it, you can very safely assume it is locked down. As a Verizon user, I wish it were different but at least the option of buying direct from Google exists.
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Yeah at least we are fortunate enough to be able to do it from google. I was just looking to do the monthly payments through Verizon but seems Ill need to get approved to do the same and buy with google so we'll see as I definitely am looking to bl unlock and rom.
I got my hands on a Verizon Pixel 3. I removed my sim, sideloaded ota, rebooted with project fi sim and I was able to unlock the bootloader. Now, this is without ever taking an update.
Did you ever activate on Verizon? People have tried making a "factory" Pixel 3 and removing the Sim to find Verizon stuff still on the phone! If the Verizon models is activated on another network it's unlockable? I only have Verizon service but do have an old ATT sim. People who didn't have Verizon but received a Verizon Pixel said they couldn't unlock the phone on any network.
rlewis312010 said:
Did you ever activate on Verizon? People have tried making a "factory" Pixel 3 and removing the Sim to find Verizon stuff still on the phone! If the Verizon models is activated on another network it's unlockable? I only have Verizon service but do have an old ATT sim. People who didn't have Verizon but received a Verizon Pixel said they couldn't unlock the phone on any network.
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No, I booted to bootloader. Side loaded an OTA with project fi sim in it. (I believe it checks during flashing, just my opinion.)
Hmm, that's cool if your method really works
JCBiznatch said:
No, I booted to bootloader. Side loaded an OTA with project fi sim in it. (I believe it checks during flashing, just my opinion.)
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Have you heard of anyone else successfully use this method? Looks like you're the only one so far from what I'm reading on the bounty page...

I just asked and they unlocked Bootloader (T-Mobile)

Hi, everyone so I was trying to unlock my T-Mobile Pixel 4 XL the other night and I was having a problem with the person previously than the ones that ended helping me to get it done. I told them I just wanted to unlock it for a trip, I didn't want to tell them I wanted to root it. They said I needed to make so many payments for a temporary unlock and pay the phone in full for a full unlock. That didn't work. So the next day, I just said I needed to unlock my bootloader and the only way to do it was if the phone was unlocked. At this point, I had the phone for a week, but they did it, I was able to unlock the phone in the app and OEM unlock in developers menu and root like everyone else. I provided some screenshot on the twitter conversation.
she messed up lol
i42o said:
she messed up lol
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Don't hurt to ask nicely
I tried through the chat function in the TMobile app. Even threatened to switch carriers and they stood their ground. Said they 'respect' my decision.
Just got my phone ulocked as well, just by asking nicely on Twitter.
I'm trying this now for my 3a, will update if it goes well.
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the advantages of rooting this device if you don't mind me asking.. I'm new to my Pixel XL. Thanks for your patience in advance
w2830 said:
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the advantages of rooting this device if you don't mind me asking.. I'm new to my Pixel XL. Thanks for your patience in advance
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This might help you decide :good:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-4-xl/help/rooted-t4004915
Well, I'm going through twitter support now. Of course the first thing they ask is if the device is paid off. They were really cool about it but basically told me I'm SOL.
I really wanted to avoid having to go through a grey-area unlocking service.
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Well, I'm going through twitter support now. Of course the first thing they ask is if the device is paid off. They were really cool about it but basically told me I'm SOL.
I really wanted to avoid having to go through a grey-area unlocking service.
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Damn sorry to hear that man
Holy ****ttt . It actually worked for me ! It took a week but it worked ! It was from someone on the T-Mobile app. I basically told them how I loved the phone but I was disappointed that I couldn't use it to it's fullest potential so I needed it unlocked. and that I have paid more than a half of the device off so I really would like it unlocked or I would like to switch to a cheaper phone. The lady was very nice to me and said that she would work that out for me as best as she could and she really did it for me !
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Hi, everyone so I was trying to unlock my T-Mobile Pixel 4 XL the other night and I was having a problem with the person previously than the ones that ended helping me to get it done. I told them I just wanted to unlock it for a trip, I didn't want to tell them I wanted to root it. They said I needed to make so many payments for a temporary unlock and pay the phone in full for a full unlock. That didn't work. So the next day, I just said I needed to unlock my bootloader and the only way to do it was if the phone was unlocked. At this point, I had the phone for a week, but they did it, I was able to unlock the phone in the app and OEM unlock in developers menu and root like everyone else. I provided some screenshot on the twitter conversation.
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I just received my 2nd Pixel 4XL from T-Mobile after reading your 1st post. TMO is still refusing to help Unlock the Bootloader. If they do not, i guess i will be sending this one back as well...
i42o said:
she messed up lol
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The carrier lock is what prevents you from the OEM unlocking. if you get it carrier unlocked and stick a different sim in you should be able to oem unlock.
Has anyone Tested Temporary Unlock from the Unlock app? Once Temp Unlocked, run the fastboot command...
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Has anyone Tested Temporary Unlock from the Unlock app? Once Temp Unlocked, run the fastboot command...
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Once you're 40 days in the temp unlock works. But from what I've read the OEM unlock button in Dev options is still greyed out so you can't unlock the bootloader. That switch has to be flipped on in order for you to be able to run the fastboot command.
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Once you're 40 days in the temp unlock works. But from what I've read the OEM unlock button in Dev options is still greyed out so you can't unlock the bootloader. That switch has to be flipped on in order for you to be able to run the fastboot command.
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Yeah I definitely understand how it works I was on the phone with a T-Mobile escalations supervisor regarding the four or five people that had their devices unlocked through two T-Mobile help without issue and without being within policy and they're still giving me no and I'm not taking no I'm taking it all the way to the FCC at a class action lawsuit if I have to this is my second Google Pixel 4 XL because the first one they told me I could boot later unlock and I couldn't The second one after showing them proof that it's been done they gave me a not so straight okay-ish upgraded me again and I got the device yesterday and they won't do Jack about it. I currently have three contacts in the office of the president escalations department and I am waiting here back from one of them...
I just randomly tried to unlock my phone from the unlock app and it worked. Didn't ask and device isn't paid off.
Just hit up Tmobile-help on Twitter and asked them if they would unlock my phone so I could better help with Android 11 development and they did it with no trouble. Even thanked me for helping with 11 development. My phone is not paid for. I do have 5 lines and have been a customer for awhile. Not saying it will work for everyone but did for me.
No luck here
Just got my T-Mobile Pixel 4 XL unlocked via Twitter.
I'm a brand new T-Mobile customer AND my phone is on a lease, not paid off at all. In fact I've not made any monthly payments or anything yet! I've only had the phone 4 days.
The trick is to ask them to enable dual SIM card mode and provision you over to an ESIM so you can run a physical SIM due to single issues. Basically T-Mobile sucks so bad you can't use your phone in some areas without a secondary SIM.
This was really what was happening for me and I had no issues getting it unlocked.
I now have a T-Mobile ESIM and a AT&T physical SIM plus OEM modes unlocked.

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