Has The S3 improved with non-Samsung phones since launch? - Samsung Gear S3

I have a Pixel, and just purchased the S3 Frontier for $299. I actually bought the LG Watch Sport when it came out, but cancelled while I was waiting for it to process. The reviews of the Sport are not very good, especially battery life, plus it looks awful IMO.
Reading lots of reviews and posts about poor integration with non-Samsung phones, like email, messaging, Google Maps, etc. I use the Google Voice app and Gmail/Nine for email. Has any of this integration improved with newer updates? Will I be able to receive/send messages from the S3 using those apps?

geoff5093 said:
I have a Pixel, and just purchased the S3 Frontier for $299. I actually bought the LG Watch Sport when it came out, but cancelled while I was waiting for it to process. The reviews of the Sport are not very good, especially battery life, plus it looks awful IMO.
Reading lots of reviews and posts about poor integration with non-Samsung phones, like email, messaging, Google Maps, etc. I use the Google Voice app and Gmail/Nine for email. Has any of this integration improved with newer updates? Will I be able to receive/send messages from the S3 using those apps?
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I have a Moto G4. The S3 voice app has some rough spots, but i use Aquamail for my mail and Textra for my SMS and they both work well. I don't use the voice feature that much, but I have answered my phone a few times on it and the other person has told me I sound fine. I have a couple of golf gps apps on it, one standalone and the other requiring a phone app and the one that requires the phone works fine.

I was skeptical about linking my Frontier up to my Huawei Mate 9 and believed it would not really work that well. But after a couple of weeks of use I came to the conclusion that everything works just as well as it did with my Galaxy S7. The only change I made was to install Textra as my default messaging app. Which is better than stock anyway.
This is a big improvement over previous Samsung watches and they have made the Gear S3 more attractive to all other smartphone users now. Iphone connection is flaky (but I don't see Apple going out their way to get along with Tizen or Android any day soon)
So I don think you have too much to worry about.
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Since I'm a GV user, I'll comment from that perspective. I have the GV app installed on my phone for setup purposes (including preserving my caller id). There is no GV app for Tizen, so this has to be setup manually, using the Google assigned alias/shadow numbers.
In general, notifications from the phone, including Gmail, are passed through. I needed to install the Android Wear app in order for this to work. I use Hangouts for messaging and can respond but not initiate a new thread. Others here report a different experience.
I think Gear S3 is the most well executed watch currently available. That may change later this year as more AW watches come to market, but the LG Sport isn't one of them.

afblangley said:
Since I'm a GV user, I'll comment from that perspective. I have the GV app installed on my phone for setup purposes (including preserving my caller id). There is no GV app for Tizen, so this has to be setup manually, using the Google assigned alias/shadow numbers.
In general, notifications from the phone, including Gmail, are passed through. I needed to install the Android Wear app in order for this to work. I use Hangouts for messaging and can respond but not initiate a new thread. Others here report a different experience.
I think Gear S3 is the most well executed watch currently available. That may change later this year as more AW watches come to market, but the LG Sport isn't one of them.
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What is GV?
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apprentice said:
What is GV?
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Google Voice, a service that allows sharing one phone number across multiple devices. The OP mentioned using the Google Voice app.

afblangley said:
Google Voice, a service that allows sharing one phone number across multiple devices. The OP mentioned using the Google Voice app.
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Ah yes, thanks, sorry I didn't see it mentioned in the OP.
We don't have Google Voice in the UK!

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[Q] Google Voice SMS via native app

Hey guys I havent been able to find anything current as if this was possible on android device.. I have JB IP4 and im using google voice sms through bitesms as my native app using the sms google voice extension. The way it works is that when the google voice app sends a push notification on the phone the google voice sms extension catches the push notification and sends it through bitesms as a normal sms. That way I was able to ditch the unlimited sms plan from ATT. Is something like that possible on android? Thats huge for me since 20 bucks a months is a damn ripoff. And i do lots and lots of txting lol. Thanks for any info =)
I've been an SMS GV Extensions user since it launched and finally bought an Android phone last week.
I took it for granted that Android would either do this already or be able to do this more easily (iOS required a jailbreak), but I instead find that you can only integrate incoming messages with the native Android messaging app and there doesn't seem to be a solution even with rooting your phone. This is disappointing, to say the least.
The fact that the Android GV app has an option in integrate inbound messages with the native messaging application but not outbound implies that is is a deliberate decision on Google's part because it is an obvious feature that is only half implemented. It is probably less a concern with cutting into the carriers' SMS revenue and more to do with constraining use of the service (Google has taken actions to curb heavy use in the past). If it integrated seemlessly, people would use it more.
This is something Google is just going to have to get over if they hope to remain competitive. There is some hope in that the new iMessaging that integrates with text messaging on iOS will put competitive pressure on them to do something similar with Android.
I will be first in line!
Psst... if anyone has found a way that I am unaware of despite constant searching in the past week, please advise us in this thread!
Google Voice Integration App?
I have not used this personally, and am in no way associated with the developer, but I found this app when searching for this exact functionality today. My Nexus S is currently integrated with GV on Sprint, so I have no way of actually testing whether this works or not, but if it does, its definitely worth $0.99!
I've been contemplating a switch to Verizon because of Sprint's slow network speeds, and would do so if I could have this functionality. If anyone has tried it, please provide feedback.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.MDRTools.GVMI2&hl=en
kashah said:
I have not used this personally, and am in no way associated with the developer, but I found this app when searching for this exact functionality today. My Nexus S is currently integrated with GV on Sprint, so I have no way of actually testing whether this works or not, but if it does, its definitely worth $0.99!
I've been contemplating a switch to Verizon because of Sprint's slow network speeds, and would do so if I could have this functionality. If anyone has tried it, please provide feedback.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.MDRTools.GVMI2&hl=en
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I just tried that app about 20 minutes ago. It shows promise. If you compose a message using the native SMS app it will send via Google Voice.
However, it doesn't integrate incoming messages. If you use GV's built in text forwarding, messages will come from your contact's alias (406, 973, etc) number. Also, you won't see messages you've sent using the Google Voice app or website in the native client.
I refunded it but I'll definitely buy again after improvements are made.
check out the google voice sms integration app on the market.
just search for mdrtools and u will find it.

[Q} KitKat, Google Voice, Hangouts, and number porting

I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
SurlyGnex said:
I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.
I've been looking at porting my number to gvoice as well, but I have a lot of friends that still insist on using MMS when there are tons of better ways these days. That and having to be stuck with the google voice app for texting are the 2 main reasons I'm reluctant on switching to google voice right now. I really hope they integrate all of that really soon.
bilago said:
I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.
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I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.
SurlyGnex said:
I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.
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Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.
bilago said:
Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.
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Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.
SurlyGnex said:
Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.
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Voice+ does not work on any other custom rom. CM11 is currently unofficial so there wont be many users. You may get results by asking on the CM11 thread in the development section of the forums.
I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
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stelv said:
I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I read in an article (no link handy) that Google Voice is expected to be integrated with Hangouts, much like SMS/messaging was recently integrated with Hangouts, and that MMS support will be added. No date given by Google, but the article said no later than early 2014.
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I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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I tried on an CM11 kang for d2vzw and it isn't working. I'm looking for fixes right now but no luck so far. I may have to go back to 4.3.1...
Ulver said:
I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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This is what I do too. Been using it for about 4 years this way. I've finally converted most of my friends and family to hangouts though. So for me this isn't a huge deal any more.
I've been wondering how much longer text will last? A lot of people I know have dropped it since smartphones are getting so ubiquitous now. Was thinking of doing the same myself. I guess where I'm going is that I was wondering if the seeming lack of concern for voice is based on the fact that it's going to be folded into hangouts and gutted along the way. Rumour has it all the carriers are starting to plan for how to make up for the lost revinues from the death of texting. A lot of free money they were taking in that they're going to miss.
One of the CyanogenMod developers recently fixed voice+, most builds will probably see the changes.
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/9Mg1NYRHL1f
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[Q] Exchange email notifications have limited visibility on Gear 2?

I've got the Gear 2 and I'm receiving notifications, but I am noticing that there is EXTREMELY limited notification for the Exchange email portion. Such as, I hope I look at the screen the moment the alert comes up so that I might actually see more than just the name of the emailer, but possibly a small portion of the subject. Because when I go back into notifications and select email, I get the following alert:
"The content of this email cannot be shown on the Gear for security reasons. For details, view this email on your mobile device.".
NOTE: I left the original Galaxy Gear for the Pebble and now left the Pebble for the Gear 2. Both the Galaxy Gear as well as the Pebble allowed me to see the content (albeit not all content, but some) of the emails from my Exchange account... I am aware that certain security protocols within Exchange would limit the view, however if that same protocol was active on the Exchange account, it would have limited notifications on all three devices, not just this one.
Is anyone else experiencing this aggravating issue?
I've attempted all software updates as well as checked within the Accessibility settings (but there is no Gear service there to approve access) and within Security (notification access) and Gear Manager is already checked.
Gear Manager version: 2.0.14040401
Gear 2 Software Version: R380XXU0BND8
Yes same issue and I fill your pain it sucks when Your in a meeting that was the selling point of the gear2 frustrating that's for sure.
Try Cloudmagic for your Exchange emails. The notifications are working for me, with a few minor bugs such as a doubling or tripling sometimes of the email notification. Also use the older stock Android email and Exchange Services, but this gave me more of the same type of bugs in frequency, so I went to Cloudmagic and am happy enough.
Hacked Sense Exchange app (preventing PIN lock enforcement, available on most custom HTC ROMs) also defeats this security limitation. I'm able to see Exchange email subject and several lines of text on my Gear 2 with HTC One M8.
mpogr said:
Hacked Sense Exchange app (preventing PIN lock enforcement, available on most custom HTC ROMs) also defeats this security limitation. I'm able to see Exchange email subject and several lines of text on my Gear 2 with HTC One M8.
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I'm rocking the Note 3, but glad to hear notifications are working as they should with non-Sammy devices... *facepalm at Samsung*
*grumble grumble*
highlordkram said:
Try Cloudmagic for your Exchange emails. The notifications are working for me, with a few minor bugs such as a doubling or tripling sometimes of the email notification. Also use the older stock Android email and Exchange Services, but this gave me more of the same type of bugs in frequency, so I went to Cloudmagic and am happy enough.
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Ahh... Cloudmagic! I haven't tried that yet. I've had it installed for about an hour and I love it! Thank you for the pointer! Makes it even better that I'm able to see my notifications on the Gear 2 now with it. SWEET!
Felecity said:
Ahh... Cloudmagic! I haven't tried that yet. I've had it installed for about an hour and I love it! Thank you for the pointer! Makes it even better that I'm able to see my notifications on the Gear 2 now with it. SWEET!
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Glad to "pay it forward" from the poster that I read this tip from. Cheers!
no problem with exchange here! I have two accounts (2010 and 2007) and both work as they should! I can read the emails without any problems, and the notification shows a few words of the content...
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Felecity said:
I've got the Gear 2 and I'm receiving notifications, but I am noticing that there is EXTREMELY limited notification for the Exchange email portion. Such as, I hope I look at the screen the moment the alert comes up so that I might actually see more than just the name of the emailer, but possibly a small portion of the subject. Because when I go back into notifications and select email, I get the following alert:
"The content of this email cannot be shown on the Gear for security reasons. For details, view this email on your mobile device.".
NOTE: I left the original Galaxy Gear for the Pebble and now left the Pebble for the Gear 2. Both the Galaxy Gear as well as the Pebble allowed me to see the content (albeit not all content, but some) of the emails from my Exchange account... I am aware that certain security protocols within Exchange would limit the view, however if that same protocol was active on the Exchange account, it would have limited notifications on all three devices, not just this one.
Is anyone else experiencing this aggravating issue?
I've attempted all software updates as well as checked within the Accessibility settings (but there is no Gear service there to approve access) and within Security (notification access) and Gear Manager is already checked.
Gear Manager version: 2.0.14040401
Gear 2 Software Version: R380XXU0BND8
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I used the ZWatch for a while before the Neo came out. Exchange emails were very limited, so at the advice of the community, I switched to K9 for emails. Well, for some reason today, K9 wasn't getting any emails out, so I turned the base client back on and was I ever glad I did. I can see the full content of the email on my device, which is EXACTLY the functionality I need.
I'm running a Gear 2 Neo against a Verizon Galaxy S3 on the stock version of 4.3.
I am very pleased with the Exchange Email output on my watch.
Thank you for the heads up with Cloud Magic it's been kicking a** that was the main reason I purchased the gear 2 for easy read of notifications during meetings all day I left my cell on my hip and looked at my gear to see the importance of the notification.
Thank you bro.
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int03h said:
Thank you for the heads up with Cloud Magic it's been kicking a** that was the main reason I purchased the gear 2 for easy read of notifications during meetings all day I left my cell on my hip and looked at my gear to see the importance of the notification.
Thank you bro.
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Glad to help out and share what i find out myself. That is why I like to visit XDA. I still am hopeful that Samsung did not intentionally block Exchange notifications, but it could be that they gave in to Corporate pressures on this. Since they did "break" it once in a past update, but then got it working again, we will all have to wait and see.
Gear S2 mail problem with exchange
I have exactly the same problem with my Gear S2.....and no solution :crying:

RCS in Android Messages

So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
With Textra, this is available. I turned it on and it works. They are fixing the issue with Live messaging right now. I am with AT&T.
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
powerstroke said:
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
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Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
Poetique said:
Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
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Yeah I messaged support and they said it's on the table but hasn't been officially added yet
According to Textra's Twitter, Google haven't released the API so it's not going to happen until they do
KingVekxin said:
So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
brandon_powell said:
Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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AT&T only supports an older version of RCS (not Universal Profile) at the moment. AT&T has it integrated into the bundled samsung messages app so it works there, but Android Messages only supports the current version of RCS (Universal Profile). Hopefully AT&T will upgrade their RCS system soon...
KingVekxin said:
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
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FWIW - It does work to its fullest in Textra. I've been using both for months, and I can insert emoji, GIFs, everything.
But the stock Samsung Messages app does not allow you to message users on iPhone without compressing the hell out of everything. So I don't think RCS is fully up yet on AT&T's side. From everything I've read, universal RCS allows for message sizes similar to iMessage. That's the only thing I miss from iPhone and is why I use Facebook Messenger or Allo for texting now. I'm sick of not being able to send gifs, videos or pictures of decent quality. No apps including Textra work for me without the crazy compression or other limitations.

How To Guide Whatsapp voice message through 3rd party app on XDA - Watch Droid

I'm a bit annoyed that we don't have a decent Whatsapp app for the GW4. But maybe there is still hope, after all with Whatsapp Beta 2.22.21.6 there is now a companion app for tablets. I came across the app Watch Droid on XDA, which was originally written for Android Watches (i.e. those with real Android, such as the current Lokmat Appllp 4 Pro with Android 11), but has also been available as a Wear version in the Appstore for some time . This means that Whatsapp voice messages work reliably on the watch, which the app retrieves from the cell phone in real time after receipt. Lots of setting options, free version can receive five voice messages, premium version costs $2.49 through the app on the phone. Here is the link to the developer's thread on XDA, the links are to the playstore versions for phone and watch.
thanks, I'll try it!
Informer does send Whatsapp voice and photos to watch
You may also respond with Gboard from watch - including voice recognition
pabgar said:
Informer does send Whatsapp voice and photos to watch
You may also respond with Gboard from watch - including voice recognition
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Indeed, on subscription.
Lucas0511 said:
Indeed, on subscription.
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Shure. Sometimes you have to pay for somebody's work

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