[Q} KitKat, Google Voice, Hangouts, and number porting - Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

SurlyGnex said:
I recently ported the phone number I’ve had for years to Google Voice so I wouldn’t have to worry about losing my number when switching carriers. I read all the pros and cons about porting to Google and thought I could put up with the drawbacks of using the Google Voice app for texting.
After about two weeks of using Gvoice for texting, I miss the “standard way” of texting with the Android messaging app. Not being able to send or receive MMS is a bigger limitation than I thought it would be. Also, I can’t tell when I’m part of a group text, which several of my friends insist on sending quite often.
On a side note, I am selling my Gnex and so I’m temporarily using an iPhone 4S until my Nexus 5 arrives early next week. Here are my questions:
Is functionality of the Google Voice app for Android any different than the iOS version? That is, will any of my issues be resolved when I switch back to Android on the N5?
I have read Android 4.4 features better integration between Google Voice, Hangouts, and messaging. Will that integration affect texting with Google Voice at all? Do I have the option, for example, of using my Gvoice number with Hangouts or the stock messaging app?
If the answer to 1 and 2 above is “no,” what are my options? Port my number to T-mobile and go back to the “old way” of texting?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.

I've been looking at porting my number to gvoice as well, but I have a lot of friends that still insist on using MMS when there are tons of better ways these days. That and having to be stuck with the google voice app for texting are the 2 main reasons I'm reluctant on switching to google voice right now. I really hope they integrate all of that really soon.

bilago said:
I'm in the same boat. Everyone has my Google Voice number. Unfortunately , it STILL isn't integrated with the Stock SMS app aka Hangouts. My Nexus 4 was running Cyanogenmod which did the integration for me automatically and it was perfect. But if you're going to stay on stock, this wont happen until google decides.
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I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.

SurlyGnex said:
I was planning to root, but didn't realize this integration is standard in CM. Based on your description, it sounds like installing a custom ROM will do the trick. If not, I think I'll be porting my Gvoice number to Tmobile.
Thanks for the replies.
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Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.

bilago said:
Currently its only supported with full integration on Cyanogenmod, thanks to a nifty app called Voice+ (apk cannot be loaded on another rom, there are dependencies baked in the framework)
This was SMS integration to the Native SMS app on 4.3. Hopefully it still will work with Hangouts.
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Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.

SurlyGnex said:
Has anyone tried Voice+ and Hangouts on 4.4 in CM (or any other custom ROM for that matter)? If so, please post up here and confirm. I would love to keep my number with Google.
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Voice+ does not work on any other custom rom. CM11 is currently unofficial so there wont be many users. You may get results by asking on the CM11 thread in the development section of the forums.

I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
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stelv said:
I have been using Google Voice as my main line for 1.5 years. The app on the iphone is horrible. Its better on android but still flawed. I wouldn't expect MMS anytime soon. The web interface isn't too bad either.
One thing I do when I want to picture message somebody is upload the image somewhere and then send a link to the image. I do not recommended this for private images though.
Google Voice is pretty much for plain texting and is reliable for plain texting for the most part. Google doesn't seem to care too much about the service being half assed though.
If you could go back to reg texting through T-Mobile I would. I only use GV because it saves me money on not having a text messaging plan through att. Regular texting is much better than Google Voice.
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I read in an article (no link handy) that Google Voice is expected to be integrated with Hangouts, much like SMS/messaging was recently integrated with Hangouts, and that MMS support will be added. No date given by Google, but the article said no later than early 2014.
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I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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I tried on an CM11 kang for d2vzw and it isn't working. I'm looking for fixes right now but no luck so far. I may have to go back to 4.3.1...

Ulver said:
I use my Google Voice number with hangouts. I just link the weird number that Google gives me when I text via Google Voice to that person and use that to text. It's been working fine for almost 2 years now.
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This is what I do too. Been using it for about 4 years this way. I've finally converted most of my friends and family to hangouts though. So for me this isn't a huge deal any more.

I've been wondering how much longer text will last? A lot of people I know have dropped it since smartphones are getting so ubiquitous now. Was thinking of doing the same myself. I guess where I'm going is that I was wondering if the seeming lack of concern for voice is based on the fact that it's going to be folded into hangouts and gutted along the way. Rumour has it all the carriers are starting to plan for how to make up for the lost revinues from the death of texting. A lot of free money they were taking in that they're going to miss.

One of the CyanogenMod developers recently fixed voice+, most builds will probably see the changes.
https://plus.google.com/110558071969009568835/posts/9Mg1NYRHL1f
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[Q] Google Voice SMS via native app

Hey guys I havent been able to find anything current as if this was possible on android device.. I have JB IP4 and im using google voice sms through bitesms as my native app using the sms google voice extension. The way it works is that when the google voice app sends a push notification on the phone the google voice sms extension catches the push notification and sends it through bitesms as a normal sms. That way I was able to ditch the unlimited sms plan from ATT. Is something like that possible on android? Thats huge for me since 20 bucks a months is a damn ripoff. And i do lots and lots of txting lol. Thanks for any info =)
I've been an SMS GV Extensions user since it launched and finally bought an Android phone last week.
I took it for granted that Android would either do this already or be able to do this more easily (iOS required a jailbreak), but I instead find that you can only integrate incoming messages with the native Android messaging app and there doesn't seem to be a solution even with rooting your phone. This is disappointing, to say the least.
The fact that the Android GV app has an option in integrate inbound messages with the native messaging application but not outbound implies that is is a deliberate decision on Google's part because it is an obvious feature that is only half implemented. It is probably less a concern with cutting into the carriers' SMS revenue and more to do with constraining use of the service (Google has taken actions to curb heavy use in the past). If it integrated seemlessly, people would use it more.
This is something Google is just going to have to get over if they hope to remain competitive. There is some hope in that the new iMessaging that integrates with text messaging on iOS will put competitive pressure on them to do something similar with Android.
I will be first in line!
Psst... if anyone has found a way that I am unaware of despite constant searching in the past week, please advise us in this thread!
Google Voice Integration App?
I have not used this personally, and am in no way associated with the developer, but I found this app when searching for this exact functionality today. My Nexus S is currently integrated with GV on Sprint, so I have no way of actually testing whether this works or not, but if it does, its definitely worth $0.99!
I've been contemplating a switch to Verizon because of Sprint's slow network speeds, and would do so if I could have this functionality. If anyone has tried it, please provide feedback.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.MDRTools.GVMI2&hl=en
kashah said:
I have not used this personally, and am in no way associated with the developer, but I found this app when searching for this exact functionality today. My Nexus S is currently integrated with GV on Sprint, so I have no way of actually testing whether this works or not, but if it does, its definitely worth $0.99!
I've been contemplating a switch to Verizon because of Sprint's slow network speeds, and would do so if I could have this functionality. If anyone has tried it, please provide feedback.
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.MDRTools.GVMI2&hl=en
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I just tried that app about 20 minutes ago. It shows promise. If you compose a message using the native SMS app it will send via Google Voice.
However, it doesn't integrate incoming messages. If you use GV's built in text forwarding, messages will come from your contact's alias (406, 973, etc) number. Also, you won't see messages you've sent using the Google Voice app or website in the native client.
I refunded it but I'll definitely buy again after improvements are made.
check out the google voice sms integration app on the market.
just search for mdrtools and u will find it.

Stock Messaging App w/ Google Voice Integration

On my current plan I do not have a texting plan, as 98% of my contacts use Gtalk. For those who ont use Gtalk I use Google Voice to text them. But I have always thought the Google Voice was a little bland, so about a year ago I found a dark themed version of it, which was better but still not the greatest.
Well as of this morning you can now use this modified stock Android Messaging app to send a text and you can select either Google Voice or your carrier texting.
Currently it is free but apparently after so many texts it asks you to upgrade to pro and it doesnt look cheap (somewhere around $7-$8) which is just in my opinion is way overpriced. Still though if you want the stock messaging app with GV integration this is it.
I am sharing this news for those who may find use for it as I have.
Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dreambig.stockmmswithgv
Finally! IMO that $8 is a small price to pay to get all the benefits of the stock without the atrocious GV app.
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[Q] mms?

I just bought a Nexus 5 two days ago and I will not be getting a sim card for this phone. I am just going to be using this phone to call over wifi and text over wifi. I have already set up a Google Voice number and everything to do it with. I just had one question. IK Google voice won't support it but is there an app I can get or something that will allow me to send and recive pictures or videos to/from my contacts. Please reply quickly because the Nexus 5 is probably going to be here in a couple of days!
Thanks for posting a question in the general thread. On top of that not searching either. This has been answered plenty of times.
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maxell505 said:
I just bought a Nexus 5 two days ago and I will not be getting a sim card for this phone. I am just going to be using this phone to call over wifi and text over wifi. I have already set up a Google Voice number and everything to do it with. I just had one question. IK Google voice won't support it but is there an app I can get or something that will allow me to send and recive pictures or videos to/from my contacts. Please reply quickly because the Nexus 5 is probably going to be here in a couple of days!
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If your contacts use Hangouts, then you can just share via Hangouts which comes pre-installed on the phone. Otherwise, you'll need to use the same service as your friends if you want to send pictures over WiFi (WhatsApp, Viber, etc.)
tsunami643 said:
If your contacts use Hangouts, then you can just share via Hangouts which comes pre-installed on the phone. Otherwise, you'll need to use the same service as your friends if you want to send pictures over WiFi (WhatsApp, Viber, etc.)
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ok thank you so much. Unlike the other guy who was being a complete di**
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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Valdeck said:
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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Yeah by next year I am hoping to get my contract but not right now. thanks a lot man
Valdeck said:
Right now some third party apps like sliding messenger can do mms and testing through your gvoice number. Your real issue will be when Google pulls that api next year.
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do you know any other apps like sliding messenger pro that support pic and video messaging. also group messaging?

Sprint Visual Voicemail App

Hi,
Does anyone know if a Sprint Visual Voicemail App exists for the Nexus 5? I know I can use Google Voice, but I just don't like it. I have tried one 3rd party application, YouMail, but I didn't like that one either, it seemed to "heavy".
T-Mobile has a NICE visual voicemail system, I really like theirs.
I was thinking Sprint would have their own dedicated one, but that Sprint chat support has no idea what I am talking about and keep giving me weird directions to just setup regular voicemail, not visual voicemail.
Thanks in advance,
Greg
No. I bothered Sprint Support on twitter and they gave me a no.
mattrb said:
No. I bothered Sprint Support on twitter and they gave me a no.
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Damn... Was looking forward to it...
Well does anyone suggest a 3rd party app that seems light, good, and free?
Google voice
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freshlysqueezed said:
Google voice
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Yeah, as I said in my first post, I don't really like Google Voice. I guess I'll just have to try out each app in the play store one by one until I find out what I like.
Thanks for your suggestions though, it is much appreciated!
gsteelx said:
Yeah, as I said in my first post, I don't really like Google Voice. I guess I'll just have to try out each app in the play store one by one until I find out what I like.
Thanks for your suggestions though, it is much appreciated!
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Most of the ones in the play store, like Visual Voicemail, requires you to set up call forwarding for missed calls to their VOIP services. I felt uncomfortable with companies I never heard of having access to all my voicemails, contact info, etc.
freshlysqueezed said:
Most of the ones in the play store, like Visual Voicemail, requires you to set up call forwarding for missed calls to their VOIP services. I felt uncomfortable with companies I never heard of having access to all my voicemails, contact info, etc.
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Ahh. Thanks for the insight on this one. I didn't even think about that.
Yeah, thats not cool at all...
Damn, hopefully Sprint can come up with something, I hate dialing and listening to the slow ass computer lady before hearing a message!
Somehow I doubt Sprint will work on anything since they already support free Google Voice integration using your native Sprint number. So, unofficially, Google Voice is your Sprint Visual Voicemail. With the GV app, voice mail even integrates in to your call log.
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HenryDCase said:
Somehow I doubt Sprint will work on anything since they already support free Google Voice integration using your native Sprint number. So, unofficially, Google Voice is your Sprint Visual Voicemail. With the GV app, voice mail even integrates in to your call log.
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This. Its kind of nice because you can listen to and scrub through voicemails, within the call app. however, I was a fan of my iphone's visual voicemail, which was nice because you just went into it and it listed all the voicemail you got. but the integration with google voice make it pretty spiffy, just not in the same aspect as having visual voicemail in its own spot.
OP, is there anything specific you don't like about google voice? if you log into your google voice account online, you can change settings and such. you can set it up to practically not even see google voice anymore, once the sprint integration with the phone app works for you.
Use YouMail. Been using it on Sprint since gnex
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unvaluablespace said:
This. Its kind of nice because you can listen to and scrub through voicemails, within the call app. however, I was a fan of my iphone's visual voicemail, which was nice because you just went into it and it listed all the voicemail you got. but the integration with google voice make it pretty spiffy, just not in the same aspect as having visual voicemail in its own spot.
OP, is there anything specific you don't like about google voice? if you log into your google voice account online, you can change settings and such. you can set it up to practically not even see google voice anymore, once the sprint integration with the phone app works for you.
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Actually, if you open the GV app and select "Voicemail" from the top left drop down, Voicemail had it's own folder. The convince of also having full access to my voice mail and text messages on my phone, Nexus 7, and laptop, including bring able to send text messages from those devices makes GV worth it to me.
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unvaluablespace said:
This. Its kind of nice because you can listen to and scrub through voicemails, within the call app. however, I was a fan of my iphone's visual voicemail, which was nice because you just went into it and it listed all the voicemail you got. but the integration with google voice make it pretty spiffy, just not in the same aspect as having visual voicemail in its own spot.
OP, is there anything specific you don't like about google voice? if you log into your google voice account online, you can change settings and such. you can set it up to practically not even see google voice anymore, once the sprint integration with the phone app works for you.
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Yeah, I mean, I tried it. It just seemed to me, like Google was taking over my phone, IE the voicemail message, saying this Google subscriber canot come to the phone right now, I know I can customize that, but it made it seem like Google was taking the whole account of my phone and it just didnt sit well with me... Call me paranoid I guess :/
I liked the TMobile Visual Voicemail, its simplicity was nice, you just clicked on the voicemail, listened, done. Easy peasy
unvaluablespace said:
OP, is there anything specific you don't like about google voice? if you log into your google voice account online, you can change settings and such. you can set it up to practically not even see google voice anymore, once the sprint integration with the phone app works for you.
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I personally dislike Google Voice for 3 reasons:
1) It's just flat out UGLY. The UI of the app is just not pleasant to look at and is in serious need of being updated to reflect Google's current design standards.
2) I don't like that it shows all my texts within the app. It makes no sense to me that they would even add texting functionality into a voicemail app. It's just totally unnecessary. I realize that I can disable SMS notifications in GV, but it's functionality that I don't want or need.
3) Why would I want to change my voicemail settings online and not within the app itself? It's completely inconvenient that I had to use a computer to remove the "press 1 to answer the g*dd*mn call" option that I found myself saddled with after activating GV for the first time. Ditto for the fact that I don't need an SMS message AND an email in addition to the GV notification when I get a voicemail, and the only option to change my notification settings is online. Why can't I just change all the settings right within the app?
maxpower7 said:
I personally dislike Google Voice for 3 reasons:
1) It's just flat out UGLY. The UI of the app is just not pleasant to look at and is in serious need of being updated to reflect Google's current design standards.
2) I don't like that it shows all my texts within the app. It makes no sense to me that they would even add texting functionality into a voicemail app. It's just totally unnecessary. I realize that I can disable SMS notifications in GV, but it's functionality that I don't want or need.
3) Why would I want to change my voicemail settings online and not within the app itself? It's completely inconvenient that I had to use a computer to remove the "press 1 to answer the g*dd*mn call" option that I found myself saddled with after activating GV for the first time. Ditto for the fact that I don't need an SMS message AND an email in addition to the GV notification when I get a voicemail, and the only option to change my notification settings is online. Why can't I just change all the settings right within the app?
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Why use a computer at all? Chrome, request desktop site, login to voice.google.com and change settings right on your phone.
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HenryDCase said:
Why use a computer at all? Chrome, request desktop site, login to voice.google.com and change settings right on your phone.
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I'll give you that. I'd still much rather be able to change all the settings right within the app.
I know OP asked about Sprint VVM and is aware of GV, but my experience with GV and the Nexus 5 has been very good. Sprint has a good arrangement with Google but i only use GV for VVM. If you skip the first prompt, tell it never to dial with GV, and then tell it to act as your VVM and confirm, it very much blends into the phone.
I get a notification with info and the option to play from the notification drop down. The VM plays via the dialer (stock dialer used to call/answer). You can delete it/call back etc via the dialer. I almost never find myself in the GV app at all, and when i do its the VM folder and looks basically like any other vmail. My sprint VM message plays for the caller too.
At first i was very angry i couldnt get the sprint VVM app, but after about a day or 2 i was actually liking the integration into the dialer. Now i think id be bothered now by the Sprint VVM app.
As others pointed out my VM's follow me to other devices or just about any browser as well. Additionally its very easy to download your messages for backup (altho i think you can download them via the sprint VVM too).
If i have the time later maybe ill post creen shots of the step by step setup to get things the way i have it.
Sprint Visual Voicemail - flashable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2577373
Anybody tested that yet ^^
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CRIME INC. said:
Anybody tested that yet ^^
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Crime -- I just noticed you posted this... Have you tried this yet?
CRIME INC. said:
Anybody tested that yet ^^
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I just tried it, I may be doing something wrong, but it is not working for me... Hoping OP of that thread can assist me.

RCS in Android Messages

So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
With Textra, this is available. I turned it on and it works. They are fixing the issue with Live messaging right now. I am with AT&T.
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
powerstroke said:
Where at in Textra do we turn on RCS? Didn't know that was available yet
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Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
Poetique said:
Same. I remember them talking about it an eternity (more than 6 months) ago, but never saw a mention of it going live; and I'm one to usually read their changelogs. Only reason I havn't set Textra as my default messaging app like I want to.
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Yeah I messaged support and they said it's on the table but hasn't been officially added yet
According to Textra's Twitter, Google haven't released the API so it's not going to happen until they do
KingVekxin said:
So I was thinking about using Android messages as my text app and have read it is supposed to have RCS function just like the default app on our Note 8 does. But Everytime I send a text as a test to my fiance there's never a delivered, read or any other RCS notable features. So I'm wondering is this app issues or carrier?
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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Anyone have an answer to the OP's question? I was wondering the same thing.
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AT&T only supports an older version of RCS (not Universal Profile) at the moment. AT&T has it integrated into the bundled samsung messages app so it works there, but Android Messages only supports the current version of RCS (Universal Profile). Hopefully AT&T will upgrade their RCS system soon...
KingVekxin said:
I used textra at a time but I really want to use android messages since it seems to be the only app that lets me use Google keyboard to it's fullest. As far as bitmoji and gifs go lol
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FWIW - It does work to its fullest in Textra. I've been using both for months, and I can insert emoji, GIFs, everything.
But the stock Samsung Messages app does not allow you to message users on iPhone without compressing the hell out of everything. So I don't think RCS is fully up yet on AT&T's side. From everything I've read, universal RCS allows for message sizes similar to iMessage. That's the only thing I miss from iPhone and is why I use Facebook Messenger or Allo for texting now. I'm sick of not being able to send gifs, videos or pictures of decent quality. No apps including Textra work for me without the crazy compression or other limitations.

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