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Has anyone been able to start a text message on the watch using Hangouts instead of the default watch app for messaging? I use Google voice so need to use hangouts for all texting.
I know I can rely to hangouts messages received on the watch... But can't initiate new texts on the watch. Any message started with watches messenger app results in failed send.
When I get a Hangouts notification on my S3 - I can push the reply button but then it doesn't give me a keyboard to actually type in a reply - it just goes away
Try installing Android wear app if you haven't already. Seems there might be a dependency.
soundneedle said:
Try installing Android wear app if you haven't already. Seems there might be a dependency.
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It is not Android Wear OS, it is Tizen OS.
So nope.
There is a strange effect, where people have found that installing the Android Wear app on their phone and launching it once and then just hitting home to leave it, helps with using Hangouts on the S3. Strange, but has been reported here.
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There is a strange effect, where people have found that installing the Android Wear app on their phone and launching it once and then just hitting home to leave it, helps with using Hangouts on the S3. Strange, but has been reported here.
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+1 strange but it does work. I had Hangouts working in that manner on my S2 after I installed Android Wear on phone.
maxip said:
+1 strange but it does work. I had Hangouts working in that manner on my S2 after I installed Android Wear on phone.
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.. hey brother. . did you sideload the Android Wear app?
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.. Hey brother. . Did you sideload the android wear app?
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on the phone.
I'm using Blackberry Hub
soundneedle said:
Has anyone been able to start a text message on the watch using Hangouts instead of the default watch app for messaging? I use Google voice so need to use hangouts for all texting.
I know I can rely to hangouts messages received on the watch... But can't initiate new texts on the watch. Any message started with watches messenger app results in failed send.
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I started using the Blackberry Hub app and this allows me to see messages from Google Hangouts on the new Samsung Watch. It also allows me to reply from it. You don't need to install anything on your watch. Blackberry Hub is $1 a month after 30 day trial but I think is worth it until Samsung comes up with a native way to push the notification.
-EDIT: sorry I think this is what you were looking for, should had read it better first.
they are def right. download android wear on your phone and just open it up. dont even need to set anything up. just close it after it opens. i can reply to hangouts no problem ever since i read and did that a while back.
I have a Pixel, and just purchased the S3 Frontier for $299. I actually bought the LG Watch Sport when it came out, but cancelled while I was waiting for it to process. The reviews of the Sport are not very good, especially battery life, plus it looks awful IMO.
Reading lots of reviews and posts about poor integration with non-Samsung phones, like email, messaging, Google Maps, etc. I use the Google Voice app and Gmail/Nine for email. Has any of this integration improved with newer updates? Will I be able to receive/send messages from the S3 using those apps?
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I have a Pixel, and just purchased the S3 Frontier for $299. I actually bought the LG Watch Sport when it came out, but cancelled while I was waiting for it to process. The reviews of the Sport are not very good, especially battery life, plus it looks awful IMO.
Reading lots of reviews and posts about poor integration with non-Samsung phones, like email, messaging, Google Maps, etc. I use the Google Voice app and Gmail/Nine for email. Has any of this integration improved with newer updates? Will I be able to receive/send messages from the S3 using those apps?
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I have a Moto G4. The S3 voice app has some rough spots, but i use Aquamail for my mail and Textra for my SMS and they both work well. I don't use the voice feature that much, but I have answered my phone a few times on it and the other person has told me I sound fine. I have a couple of golf gps apps on it, one standalone and the other requiring a phone app and the one that requires the phone works fine.
I was skeptical about linking my Frontier up to my Huawei Mate 9 and believed it would not really work that well. But after a couple of weeks of use I came to the conclusion that everything works just as well as it did with my Galaxy S7. The only change I made was to install Textra as my default messaging app. Which is better than stock anyway.
This is a big improvement over previous Samsung watches and they have made the Gear S3 more attractive to all other smartphone users now. Iphone connection is flaky (but I don't see Apple going out their way to get along with Tizen or Android any day soon)
So I don think you have too much to worry about.
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Since I'm a GV user, I'll comment from that perspective. I have the GV app installed on my phone for setup purposes (including preserving my caller id). There is no GV app for Tizen, so this has to be setup manually, using the Google assigned alias/shadow numbers.
In general, notifications from the phone, including Gmail, are passed through. I needed to install the Android Wear app in order for this to work. I use Hangouts for messaging and can respond but not initiate a new thread. Others here report a different experience.
I think Gear S3 is the most well executed watch currently available. That may change later this year as more AW watches come to market, but the LG Sport isn't one of them.
afblangley said:
Since I'm a GV user, I'll comment from that perspective. I have the GV app installed on my phone for setup purposes (including preserving my caller id). There is no GV app for Tizen, so this has to be setup manually, using the Google assigned alias/shadow numbers.
In general, notifications from the phone, including Gmail, are passed through. I needed to install the Android Wear app in order for this to work. I use Hangouts for messaging and can respond but not initiate a new thread. Others here report a different experience.
I think Gear S3 is the most well executed watch currently available. That may change later this year as more AW watches come to market, but the LG Sport isn't one of them.
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What is GV?
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apprentice said:
What is GV?
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Google Voice, a service that allows sharing one phone number across multiple devices. The OP mentioned using the Google Voice app.
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Google Voice, a service that allows sharing one phone number across multiple devices. The OP mentioned using the Google Voice app.
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Ah yes, thanks, sorry I didn't see it mentioned in the OP.
We don't have Google Voice in the UK!
Hi everybody,
I'm new so I'm sorry if I violated a rule, or I missed the section, or else.
But I bought recently this beautiful smartwatch and paired with my P9 lite (Nougat) and I just saw the VERY BIG problem of this watch: WhatsApp's notifications.
So I started to download all the solutions, like the Chat Hub, W History etc etc ... all s**t both software and UI.
Downloaded Notification for Gear s123 (both versions available) but app crashed frequently.
I downloaded Double Check that you can receive notification via this app and WhatsApp too, so double notifications for one message and the watch receive double notifications too and often the watch did not vibrated.
With all this "test" I understand the mechanism of Gear s2's notifications system so I started to develop an app for that, but immediately I applied the first rule of programming:
If something has already been done, do not do it again.
I looked for a message merger:
Then I downloaded an app called Disa from the play store and installed the WhatsApp plugin and now all is ok !!!!!
PRO
- Read all messages
- Reply to all messages
- On phone, you can merge all the notification from the same sender.
CONS
- When you open a message on watch you can see this struct:
Sender
Messages
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messages
But only when you open the notification!
-Sender profile image no more on the background of the watch when receiving a notification.
-Has a different UI for use whatsapp.
However, it's a temporary solution, basically it's just an update to whatsapp or Gear or ... Then I don't know if an update will breaks the app, but at the moment works very very well.
Now I'm working on the development of an app I'm going to do for free but my work takes me a long time.
I hope to have helped.
Best regards!
Thank you so much for the tip! Appreciate your work and may you develop an awesome app to rectify a problem that Samsung doesn't want to
Thank you, I appreciate your support.
However it's not all the fault of Samsung. In fact, the Gear Notification Manager (seems) works that if the app on the phone has the permission to vibrate, the smartwatch vibrates, if the notification on the smartphone contains some information (in this case the messages) then the smartwatch shows that information. WhatsApp restricts Gear functionality through the notification system it has adopted. In other words, Disa sends notifications to the smartphone in a different way, for example, Disa doesn't show the sender's profile photo.
Little update:
Reply via Speech-to-text isn't supported on Gear.
I recently bought a Gear S3 and since then looking for a nice decent solution to the WhatsApp problem.
W-History is doing as promised, but a really ugly GUI.
Notifications for S123 doesn't work on my S3
Chat Hub I didn't check.
I ended up using Notifications Wear Style, which works well for me.
The free version can show 20 messages and then tells you to buy the premium version.
I was about to buy the premium version till I saw your post.
It made me really curious if you can come up with a free app and nice GUI would be a big plus.
Anyway, keep up the good work and hope to see your app soon.
Note that there are a lot of message merger in play store! I just download the first.
However, my work take me long time so I don't know when I can develop the app.
I can only view last received message from notifications thats it. Cant find a place for all messages.
Download from Play Store, an app called Disa. Then download (from app) the plugin for WhatsApp. After that you will able to read (and reply) all WhatsApp messagges.
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Download from Play Store, an app called Disa. Then download (from app) the plugin for WhatsApp. After that you will able to read (and reply) all WhatsApp messagges.
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Downloaded Disa yesterday, but when started it said that the original WhatsApp app needed to be deinstalled.
Is that correct ?
What are the consequences when the original client is deinstalled ?
Yes. I use this app from 9 days and no problem. The plugin support the end to end encryption.
If you use Disa you can't do call and videocall from WhatsApp.
For what remains you can do all what you do with WhatsApp.
On p9 lite works very well.
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Yes. I use this app from 9 days and no problem. The plugin support the end to end encryption.
If you use Disa you can't do call and videocall from WhatsApp.
For what remains you can do all what you do with WhatsApp.
On p9 lite works very well.
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Thanks for the quick answer and information.
Will I loose any current conversations from the original WhatsApp client when I deinstall it and start to use Disa ?
(just want to know before I get into surprises).
No problem man, we are all in the same boat.
And yes, you will loose all conversations.
Received today an upgrade for WhatsApp's plugin. Still no problem with the Gear.
was perfect solution if only allows call and videocall.. maybe in future this possible with Disa?
in every case thank you so much for the Trick
Well, I was thoroughly investigating the problem of notifications, not only with WhatsApp, but with apps like Telegram, Hagouts, Allo and so on. (Of all, only Facebook Messenger Lite had no problems and showed the history normally).
Well, from Android Nougat, the notifications have changed and have come to present more information, but the way Gear handles them yet! The Gear app sends the notifications by the title (or the name of the contact) AND the last information received.
Tizen receives the title and compares it with existing notification titles. If it matches, it will add the last information received in the saved messages. If the title of the notification differs from the one stored, it will understand that it is a new notification and then create a new page.
WhatsApp and Telegram notifications on Android nougat are like this:
For a message:
Name
For two messages:
Name (2 messages)
For three messages:
Name (3 messages)
And more ...
Therefore, the notification title changes each message, making what Tizen thinks is a new notification and creating a new page. The old message is deleted the title has changed and soon the system thinks it has been read.
Anyone who owned a device with the MM or lower could confirm my thesis?
yuzaman said:
was perfect solution if only allows call and videocall.. maybe in future this possible with Disa?
in every case thank you so much for the Trick
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Maybe... but I don't believe. The scope of Disa is to merge the messages not to do calls.
UPDATE: Yesterday I received an update of DIsa and WhatsApp's plugin. Still work!
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Maybe... but I don't believe. The scope of Disa is to merge the messages not to do calls.
UPDATE: Yesterday I received an update of DIsa and WhatsApp's plugin. Still work!
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Hi @erfack, I don't know if you are using any other method to read Whatsapp messages on Gear, but I have a Gear Sport and I still don't like any of the solutions when I compare to Android Wear.
I started to investigate it too, and this is what I found: If I connect an Android Wear device to my phone, a "Read More" option appears on the Gear Sport (tested in S2 and S3 too).
Full history:
I have a Gear Sport and, as many others, I'm trying to understand why the Read More options is not appearing in some third-party apps, like Whatsapp.
What I found is that if I have only my Gear Sport connected to my Galaxy S8+, the Read More options does not appear and I can only read the last message received, not the full conversation.
But if I connect another watch to my phone (I also have a Huawei Watch, which runs Android Wear 2) then the Read More option appears on the Gear Watch! Then I can read all messages received.
I have to believe that Samsung can correct this, since it appears to be a notification bug, solved somehow by the Android Wear connection.
For now, I'm just unable to switch from Android Wear to Tizen because of this ridiculous bug that is here since the Gear S2, as far as I read here on the foruns.
Anyway, thanks for your info on Disa!
Hi @Lucas_Skyline, I found there is an incompatibility by Tizen in the android notification system. This is caused by the new Android notification system that have more function and more types respect the oldest versions. Furthermore there's some difficulties about to write code 'cause, in Tizen, apps are written in C (now C++ and .NET too) while android is full Java. This is for Tizen. For WhatsApp, Mr. Zucks decided to not release API or source code of WhatsApp then is more hardest to circunmavigate this (ugly...very ugly!) bug.
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Hi @Lucas_Skyline, I found there is an incompatibility by Tizen in the android notification system. This is caused by the new Android notification system that have more function and more types respect the oldest versions. Furthermore there's some difficulties about to write code 'cause, in Tizen, apps are written in C (now C++ and .NET too) while android is full Java. This is for Tizen. For WhatsApp, Mr. Zucks decided to not release API or source code of WhatsApp then is more hardest to circunmavigate this (ugly...very ugly!) bug.
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Understood!
I was wondering why it works when I have a Android Wear device connected. I mean, it works on the Gear Sport, I connect my Huawei Watch and the "Read More" option appears. Maybe we could find a way to emulate an android wear device?
Is very very hard to simulate a OS (I think is possible, but the battery will drains after a couple of hour), but a custom solution is easy. Just change the notifications popup like Disa does. However I have the impression that is a commercial move by Android because Tizen is the 2nd wolrd's most popular OS for smartwatches ( Watch OS at 57%, Tizen at 19% and Android Wear at 18%).
not wark now whatsapp plugin ..
Hi folks, I just bought a Galaxy Watch 4 and would like to have the option to send Whatsapp texts to contacts who haven't texted me yet. I know that Watch Chat had this option and now it no longer exists in the store. Is there and old apk that might work? Is there any other workaround? Thank you in advance.
Hi,
I presume you can use Bixby to send a WhatsApp message. Do let me know if it works.
Bixby doesn't have many functions and I can confirm you it doesn't send whatsapp messages. There is a workaround to install Google assistant actually, but i was hoping someone could get watch chat to work or show me how to install it - thanks
Touto apkou ...
Messages for Wear OS (Android – Aplikace na Google Play
Zpráva s klávesnicí přes SMS / WhatsApp / Facebooku na opotřebení OS Android Wear hodinky
play.google.com
look in Telegram in the group "wear store". this should also work with our clock. haven't tested it
meilik said:
Touto apkou ...
Messages for Wear OS (Android – Aplikace na Google Play
Zpráva s klávesnicí přes SMS / WhatsApp / Facebooku na opotřebení OS Android Wear hodinky
play.google.com
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Can't find the app on the watch play store. On my phone yes.
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Can't find the app on the watch play store. On my phone yes.
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Because it is not compatible witch GW4.
Additionally it is not really Whatsapp . It is general use notification app
You may try Informer. It is an app of this kind as above but not full Whatsapp client
Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com
pabgar said:
Because it is not compatible witch GW4.
Additionally it is not really Whatsapp . It is general use notification app
You may try Informer. It is an app of this kind as above but not full Whatsapp client
Informer: messages for Wear OS - Apps on Google Play
WhatsApp voice messages, call notifications, message history, vibration patterns
play.google.com
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I tried but I really don't like this app. I could sideload the messages app and it's working well now.
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I tried but I really don't like this app. I could sideload the messages app and it's working well now.
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Can you post apk of messages for sideload to GW4 ?
I use this , works well, but requires pre setting the contacts to be sent messages to (or called) in the phone companion app:
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Can't find the app on the watch play store. On my phone yes.
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It.is compatible with GW4. I have it installed
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Can't find the app on the watch play store. On my phone yes.
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In the description of this video there is the apk that works
i don't understand how it's possible an application like whatsApp don't have any companion on GW4...
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Hi folks, I just bought a Galaxy Watch 4 and would like to have the option to send Whatsapp texts to contacts who haven't texted me yet. I know that Watch Chat had this option and now it no longer exists in the store. Is there and old apk that might work? Is there any other workaround? Thank you in advance.
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Any english translations? Do you install any Whatsapp APK?
Awesome
Which texting app are folks using that has both a phone app AND the matching Wear OS app?
I am on Verizon and use their Messages+ app, and it works great with the Watch 4. (I realize that this is not much help to people not on that phone network).
I immediately switched to Google messages from Samsung
I tried Google Messages and move back to Samsung Messages... Samsung messages works great with Microsoft Windows Your Phone and works great with Samsung Dex.
The downside for me is that I with Bell and they do not support RCS on Samsung Messages. Google messages RCS work with Bell.
Went with Google Messages...
Using Textra on my phone. Works fine through watch. I can reply to texts, etc. I can also look at pictures which have been text to me. There is no Textra app on my watch though. Not sure how this works. I have never sent a text from my watch which was not a reply (and I have never had the desire to do this).
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Using Textra on my phone. Works fine through watch. I can reply to texts, etc. I can also look at pictures which have been text to me. There is no Textra app on my watch though. Not sure how this works. I have never sent a text from my watch which was not a reply (and I have never had the desire to do this).
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Yeah, that's the thing: you can't initiate a text unless your watch and phone use the same "companion" app. Textra is still my favorite, but I went back to Handcent/Next SMS so I could have this function. One of the reasons for getting the Watch 4 was to be independent of the phone if necessary. FWIW, I talked with Jason at Textra and he said they are thinking about developing the watch app.
Thanks for your reply!
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Using Textra on my phone. Works fine through watch. I can reply to texts, etc. I can also look at pictures which have been text to me. There is no Textra app on my watch though. Not sure how this works.
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Same here. Textra. It just works and there is no companion watch app.
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Yeah, that's the thing: you can't initiate a text unless your watch and phone use the same "companion" app.
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That is not true at all. I use only Textra and it is the default texting app on the phone. I just sent a text originating from my non-LTE watch (not a reply). I selected a contact from the watch and clicked on the text icon and the thread appears and I can compose a message. No companion app needed.
Can you explain your reasoning in more detail?
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Which texting app are folks using that has both a phone app AND the matching Wear OS app?
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I use Textra on my phone and the default messaging app on my Galaxy Watch 4.
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That is not true at all. I use only Textra and it is the default texting app on the phone. I just sent a text originating from my non-LTE watch (not a reply). I selected a contact from the watch and clicked on the text icon and the thread appears and I can compose a message. No companion app needed.
Can you explain your reasoning in more detail?
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I don't know if it makes any difference, but mine is an LTE watch. Anyway, when I tried to use the default (Samsung) app on the watch to initiate a new text, it told me I had to first make Samsung messaging the default messaging app on my phone.
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I don't know if it makes any difference, but mine is an LTE watch.
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That could be the difference. Perhaps on the LTE version, it needs a stand-alone/companion app loaded on the watch and the non-LTE version does not. No way I can verify that.