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[Q] COming from Bionic, to S3....confused ?

Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance

docluv01 said:
Hey guys, I have had a Bionic for the past 18 months or so....forgive me if my questions sound silly....
Recently, I was given a S3 to use. Before I take the plunge and get it activated, I was tryign to learn about the ROMS etc out there.
- I see there are TouchWiz ROMS and AOSP roms. I'm assuming the TouchWiz ROMS are based on stock rom just tweaked and debloated and teh AOSP ROMS are the ones built from scratch?
- I see there are kernels around....same, AOSP and TW. Is it safe to assume if I use AOSP, I need to get an AOSP kernel? If I install for example the latest Liquidsmooth....do I have to do the kernel 1st? or does the ROM have the kernel built in?
- Do I have to unlock the bootloader? Or is that what the kernel does?
Again, sorry for the dumb questions....my Bionic was simpler to do...with less options....
Thanks in advance
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1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.

Gotcha..!
Thank you!
So is it safe to assume, you flash ROM 1st, then you flash kernel? At 1st glance, I like the Liguidsmooth ROM, but people are also raving about the KT747 kernel. SO I would have to flash his AOSP version...
I have seen some radios also...Is that advisable to do?
jmxc23 said:
1. AOSP is the original Android OS untouched by any company. Touchwiz is Samsung's version Android.
2. You don't need a custom kernel but it can optimize your phone for increase in battery life.
3. All ROMs have kernels built-in they have to or else it won't work .
4. You must unlock the boot loader in order to flash anything.
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Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.

Yes, 1st thing I'm going to do is root and unlock the bootloader....
One last Q...
I see people are having GPS lock issues on some ROMs (eg Liquidsmooth), compared to stock. Would that be a kernel type off issue? Would updating the kernel to the KT747 fix this?
jmxc23 said:
Yes that is correct but you must first root your phone. The bionic had a larger margin of error when it came to rooting.
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It is a ROM issue so the devs have to make a fix for it.

Should I root my m8?

Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.

gogz2005 said:
Hi all, I have had HTC One M8 for a month now and I just love it.
The only thing I would like to know that if I installed a custom rom would my phone function better?
I honestly got sick of installing roms on my old Galaxy S3, and every time I find something that I don't like in that rom or a bug.
Please help me deciding.
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To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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Very good point, I love how responsive my phone is, and I also like the way the stock rom feels and looks. Now I will consider rooting it.

xs11e said:
To me, the biggest advantage of rooting is removing bloatware (apps you don't want.) There's no need to install a custom ROM if you don't want to do so but there are advantages to custom ROMs, several already have much of the bloat removed.
They probably won't make your phone function better.
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So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?

85gallon said:
Just because you root doesn't mean you need to install a custom rom.
Rooting and keeping stock ROM will allow you to tweak the stock rom to your liking. You can use any number of tools like the Xposed mods, tasker scripts, themers, etc. The possibilities are endless.
I have always rooted and tweaked the stock ROMS until late in the device life when I won't be getting the next version of Android. Then I load a custom ROM.
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I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?

gogz2005 said:
So is it easy to remove Verizon pre-installed apps if I rooted my phone?
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gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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If you are keeping the stock ROM do NOT remove the bloatware if it is a system file. (Most of them are) If you remove them you will not be able to take the OTA updates from your carrier until you restore them. You are better off disabling them or using Titanium Backup to Freeze them. That way they are easily reversed so you can take the OTA update.

gogz2005 said:
I just rooted my phone using Weak Sauce. Can you tell me how to remove bloatware apps?
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titanium back up freeeze/uninstall

I used to crack flash back on my Galaxy Nexus. I had the M8 for about a month before I rooted and S'Offed. I'm hesitant to flash a full custom ROM as of yet because stock plus Xposed is keeping me extremely happy. For me, the Xposed framework and modules is such a great setup because it allows me to pick and choose which tweaks I want.

Was gonna remain stock till I downloaded an xposed mod that messed up my wifi (possibly due to having a feature another xposed module was handling turned on) . Instead of reflashing and adding all the tweaks and flash zip to a stock ROM, I went ahead and flashed cleanrom which is basically debloated with all the tweaks/mods I already previously had and wanted.
Cleanrom plus the xposed modules like sense6 toolbox, gravity box, XSense, etc make staying stock or stock-ish a very glamorous option

Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
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wtoj34 said:
Sounds like what you want is some good old fashioned CleanROM :good:
Edit just read the most recent post right after posting this. Oh well. You'll love CleanROM though. Had it for about a month (practically a record for me and roms) and I love it. Gpe is also pretty stable may try that it he future 'cause I heart aosp but other than that I see no reason to use anything but CleanROM
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I think that it was I will try, CleanRom. Thank you for the advice.

I'm loving the GPE rom
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Root It!
The Cyanogenmod nightlies are good - the 6/16 version did not have any problems.

Using a J700/F/H/M ROM on a J700T?

Would a ROM built for a J700F/H/M be compatible with a J700T? They have the same CPU and GPU. The only difference I notice is the supported network technologies, but I may of overlooked other differences.
If not completely compatible without modification, what would need to be changed?
I'm guessing I could just flash and see what happens, but I don't have time right now to deal with a bricked phone if it does go wrong.
Thanks.

vekenti said:
Would a ROM built for a J700F/H/M be compatible with a J700T? They have the same CPU and GPU. The only difference I notice is the supported network technologies, but I may of overlooked other differences.
If not completely compatible without modification, what would need to be changed?
I'm guessing I could just flash and see what happens, but I don't have time right now to deal with a bricked phone if it does go wrong.
Thanks.
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Only some ROM's can be flashed and all features don't transfer. The wifi setup is different and so is the camera. The kernel codes are different as well so kernel specific ROM'S won't flash either.

Would it be easy to fix the wifi and such? I don't have much experience with ROM porting, and I was hoping that this device would be the one that I can finally get some experience, because you would think it would be pretty easy to convert J700F/H/M ROMS to J700T ROMS.

vekenti said:
Would it be easy to fix the wifi and such? I don't have much experience with ROM porting, and I was hoping that this device would be the one that I can finally get some experience, because you would think it would be pretty easy to convert J700F/H/M ROMS to J700T ROMS.
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I would imagine it would be pretty easy to port over some of the ROM's, I'm currently running Alloosh's N7 V3, but without digging through the kernel codes for each ROM it's hard to say. You would have to set up your build environment and identify the differences and change them, trust me it's a long sometimes pain staking process ha. It's not as hard as building a different OS from source or porting over other software, but it will still take some time.
I've gotten the camera to finally work and wifi and Hotspot are running fine too, but there's still issues I'm looking into. Just start doing some research and see what you're comfortable with diving into.

You need to try using your device stock kernel with those roms

messi2050 said:
You need to try using your device stock kernel with those roms
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Do you know where I can find the stock kernel file for the J700T? Ive had no luck finding it myself.

vekenti said:
Do you know where I can find the stock kernel file for the J700T? Ive had no luck finding it myself.
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You can make a backup of your current kernel using apps like flashify...etc

Thanks

I got the pixel experience rom to boot on my j700t with messi2050's v1 kernel. Rebooted every 2-10 minutes. It looked great i wish i could use it for my daily runner. I just reflashed pk6. Which rom to try this with next.

Dustinsk22 said:
I got the pixel experience rom to boot on my j700t with messi2050's v1 kernel. Rebooted every 2-10 minutes. It looked great i wish i could use it for my daily runner. I just reflashed pk6. Which rom to try this with next.
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I'm using Messi's kernel on the Note 7 ROM by Allosh.
I use his kernel on almost every flash I do, dudes awesome for porting it for the T.

Too bad he removed all his downloads though. In the process of making my own SE permissive kernel for the J700t.
Just busy with life currently.

New rom and Newbie help

I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated

xpoisonxdartx said:
I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated
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I recommend lineage 14.1 sumire . Pretty stable , make sure you back up your drm key first .?

xpoisonxdartx said:
I am getting a new Z5 and I was looking around for a custom rom. I see that the latest somewhat stable rom is 7.1.1 but I also see that there are a lot of people complaining about fingerprint scanner and other stability issues . I want a custom rom that will pretty much unlock drm and all other crap so I can install any unsigned app while also not melting my phone due to instability and heavy ram consumption. Not sure what to chose. Suggestions and feedback much appreciated
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About the fingerprint scanner, you have to install one before the last one to make it works.

crisout said:
About the fingerprint scanner, you have to install one before the last one to make it works.
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what do you mean ? I dont understand

xpoisonxdartx said:
what do you mean ? I dont understand
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In lineage-14.1-20170712 the fingerprint scanner is working.

crisout said:
In lineage-14.1-20170712 the fingerprint scanner is working.
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so you are saying I should flash 14.1-20170712 ?
anyway i didnt get the phone yet only next week so its still stock I presume

xpoisonxdartx said:
so you are saying I should flash 14.1-20170712 ?
anyway i didnt get the phone yet only next week so its still stock I presume
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Yes, I personally prefer stock with some tweaks, xnext camera, ambient display, Magisk for pass safety net. I really like to take pictures, with stock you keep the drm Keys and can making photos with low light haha.

crisout said:
Yes, I personally prefer stock with some tweaks, xnext camera, ambient display, Magisk for pass safety net. I really like to take pictures, with stock you keep the drm Keys and can making photos with low light haha.
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Well then to be honest i just want to install unsigned apps i dont really care for a custom rom so can i do that with just rooting and installing 7.1.1 stock rom ?

xpoisonxdartx said:
Well then to be honest i just want to install unsigned apps i dont really care for a custom rom so can i do that with just rooting and installing 7.1.1 stock rom ?
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There are ways to install unsigned apps, you don't really have to change to a custom rom.
If your definition of ''unsigned apps'' is cracked, patched apps, you can always install apk.
And yes, you can root on stock rom (no difference on custom rom).

colorado48 said:
There are ways to install unsigned apps, you don't really have to change to a custom rom.
If your definition of ''unsigned apps'' is cracked, patched apps, you can always install apk.
And yes, you can root on stock rom (no difference on custom rom).
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Ok so then I guess I will stick with stock and will just root . And in terms of stock what version should I stick to ? And yes when I say "unsigned apps" I mean cracked and patched.

Roms

I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!

Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.

Resurrection Remix Smooth like F ?

GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds

mase1871 said:
is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.

GeekMcLeod said:
I dont believe that is possible. I use Elementalx and have no issues like that. Banking app is probably just because of root.
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It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...

mase1871 said:
It definitely is because of root but I was unsuccessful in trying to hide root with Magisk... So seems like the only way to go is to revert back to stock without root...
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Seems like it. Although, when my banking app had tap to pay built in, I was able to hide root and use it. Now I'm forced to use google pay and I can't get it to work while rooted.

Is No limits Magisk stable?

UnicornHub said:
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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Avoid stuff like that, will do now harm than good

Also on RR rom, for my banking app I use another app called island. Didn't detect root at all

UnicornHub said:
Is No limits Magisk stable?
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I've used it, thought it was good. But pretty sure everything is running better on stock. Even with other magisk and EdXposed modules.

I think I am going to go back to RR. I was on it but had an issue with the sound. I flash oos and miss RR already lol

UnicornHub said:
I know these threads are frowned upon bc everyone has their own preferences but I'm just curious what roms y'all are running. What is the smoothest ROM right now. I live bring to customize with fonts and colors in the status bar and what not.
I'm on Resurrection but just wanting to change it up. I wish dirty unicorns was on here I used to flash that back in the day and loved it!!!
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Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it

Greatness83 said:
Stock rooted international firmware on TMO.... Nothing beats it
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I have noticed the battery life is amazing. I can use themeing apps to once I get root back I think I'm going to stay on stock rooted international for a while.

GeekMcLeod said:
Ive tried Bliss and ParanoidAndroid but went back to stock with custom kernel as I have way better battery life.
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Which kernel are you using?

Akhayev said:
Which kernel are you using?
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My favorite has always been elementalx. It's great on every device I've had.

What about resurrection vs crdroid? I Ave been reading on both and both seems stable and good.

I've tried multiple custom roms but keeping coming back to stock, every rom seems to have some kind of functionality missing that the stock rom has, it's not worth it to lose base functionality just to have something different looking.

mase1871 said:
is it possible to have custom kernels with unrooted device and stock os? also, what custom kernle are you using if it's not a secret?
I've been on Havoc and then Omni Treskmod but both had certain issues (battery life / banking apps / default camera not working etc.) so I'm really thinking of reverting back to stock and unrooting the device. But I also enjoy some of the custom kernel features that are available out there so was wondering if it's possible to get best of both worlds
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Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with Safety Net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration with root apps and have CTS check bypass (kernel level) it should work without a problem like stock/unrooted, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.

rawimagee said:
Yes, you can use alot of custom kernels unrooted. I have used Weeb and blu_spark unrooted without any problems and with safety net passing. If they are designed to work out of the box without any configuration and have Saftey Net CTS check bypass it wont be any problems, little research might be needed tho. Good luck.
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Thanks for your input. I have actually unrooted my device and with a little bit of debloating I am getting the best battery life I have ever had (compared to quite a few custom roms & kernels I have tried out) + I was also able to get GCam with aux lenses, Youtube Vanced and get all the customization I need using Nova Prime Launcher. Really don't see myself coming back to any custom rom, as they tend to have bugs here and there, or have something that simply doesn't work the way it should. Stock everything gives me everything I need from this phone :good: