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Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
I read the same thing. I was thinking about grabbing the evo 3d when that comes out. But I'm after reading that article, I'm almost certain that evo 3d will have a encrypted bootloader.
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Doesn't mean it can't be re-rommed.
The galaxy tab I'm currently using had signed bootloaders, they aren't a problem anymore.
The devs here will figure a way around it.
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Wow, hopefully they don't turn into Motorola when it comes to that.
More glad than ever I stuck to my guns and got my Android then.
No Root or Custom Roms means no go for me to pull the trigger.
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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This makes sense. More devs focused on the issue will bring about more advancement.
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
magnumforce2006 said:
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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oooooh I see
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Not entirely true. The dx still cannot get custom kernels which means no non-stock based tons (cyangoen/miui)
ZXMustang said:
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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errrr , the droidx booloader has NOT been crack, they only have half baked roms , they have 2.3 roms because a 2.3 rom leaked from motorola, otherwise they'd still be stuck on 2.2
I guess that just means that the Android devs that work for HTC and MOTO are a tad smarter then the ones that work for apple.
Shame that they are putting that knowledge into locking the phones down though.
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There's a diff between locked and encrypted/locked. The htc inspire has a basically locked boot loader but isn't encrypted. There's also a diff between rooting and flashing custom roms. Even the atrix is rooted, but the bootloader is locked down thus no custom roms.
The news media doesn't seem to understand the terminology. I still don't know for sure if the thunderbolt bootloader is actually encrypted or just locked and won't until I hear from a dev who knows what he's talking about.
Then if it is, there's the question of how it is encrypted. A shame either way. We can thank the crotchety carriers like at&t for pressuring this.
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p0wned:
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See what I said earlier in action buahahaha. No really that's freakin awesome.
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can someone confirm this? havent heard about this anywhere else
Chad_Petree said:
Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
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No I rooted the inspire in ten minutes. Playstation 3 was encrypted and look at the turnout of it now.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/30...-unlock?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Honestly, AT&T needs to cut the BS.
This is unacceptable.
Time for us devs to start working on an unlock... *sigh*
Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Thanks, hopefully we can break something out soon. I have to wait till Sunday for mine since its already preordered with no cancellations, but as soon as I get mine I will begin my attempts as well.
Hopefully we can work on getting S-OFF as well. -_-
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Thanks, hopefully we can break something out soon. I have to wait till Sunday for mine since its already preordered with no cancellations, but as soon as I get mine I will begin my attempts as well.
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well, it is going to my wife, the info seems more like speculation still since no one from AT&T or HTC has come out and said directly this is the plan.
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well, it is going to my wife, the info seems more like speculation still since no one from AT&T or HTC has come out and said directly this is the plan.
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HTC provided the quote in the article...
DesignGears, PLEASE STAY. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, PLLLEAAAASSEE ???????? i will do annnnything for you.
also, this is a bit of speculation on our part... at&t could just be holding the boot loader unlock until the phone is actually released. we don't know anything for sure. best bet is to wait until sunday for some news. i also think that we should SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL. I REPEAT: SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL!!!!!!!
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DesignGears, PLEASE STAY. PLEASE, I BEG YOU, PLLLEAAAASSEE ???????? i will do annnnything for you.
also, this is a bit of speculation on our part... at&t could just be holding the boot loader unlock until the phone is actually released. we don't know anything for sure. best bet is to wait until sunday for some news. i also think that we should SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL. I REPEAT: SPAM THEIR FACEBOOK WALL!!!!!!!
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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trololol. anything but that can't devs use the rogers boot loader unlock tool to help? won't that assist the devs to get the manual unlocking process off the ground, because the phones are basically identical?
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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Oh come now, DG! You ran off from the Atrix 4g and we got it done! (I was one of the few who didn't get the2dcour in his phone ) Your work is grand. This device is deserving of the AAA treatment, just give it a couple weeks and see how it all plays out!
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Oh come now, DG! You ran off from the Atrix 4g and we got it done! (I was one of the few who didn't get the2dcour in his phone ) Your work is grand. This device is deserving of the AAA treatment, just give it a couple weeks and see how it all plays out!
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ill have what he's having... .LOL but yeah. WHAT HE SAID! ^^^
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Unlock my bootloader!!
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It's happening. We got the movement started. The Vivid was unlocked and this will be too.
Don't make me bribe you
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/30...-unlock?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Honestly, AT&T needs to cut the BS.
This is unacceptable.
Time for us devs to start working on an unlock... *sigh*
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Just cancelled my pre-order. If and when they ever get around to giving us an unlock or the devs here crack it, I might reconsider. Until then, AT&T can kiss my ass.
Yeah this is just speculation based on something from htcs end. We haven't heard anything from att officially yet
Edit: obviously this is being done by att, by who is to say they won't unlock it after a month or so
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Wow..it's like the Atrix all over again
Glad that deal expired then lol..
Hopefully this article well be wrong in a month..
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I'm pretty sure they said the same thing regarding the Vivid at first. It eventually got unlocked.
I think its still too early to totally freak out of this. All we have is one very generic quote from HTC and nothing from ATT yet. I think it will get done soon enough, if not... well then we can freak out.
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Wow..it's like the Atrix all over again
Glad that deal expired then lol..
Hopefully this article well be wrong in a month..
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I'm actually browsing these forums because I'm looking to replace my Atrix. When I saw designgear's comment I couldn't help but laugh....
Damn. I really wanted this phone over a Galaxy Nexus too...
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I think its still too early to totally freak out of this. All we have is one very generic quote from HTC and nothing from ATT yet. I think it will get done soon enough, if not... well then we can freak out.
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I think it's the perfect time. The Vivid community waited too long and they had to wait 2 months to get an unlock from HTC
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Well, I was going to wait around until Sunday, but this seals the deal, on my way to AT&T right now.
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You're always welcome back on the "real X" side. HTC UK said on the 2nd the graphics issues were identifed and an update specifically for them (not 1.29) was due soon.
It's kind of an interesting position people find themselves in. With the X you get: funky Nvidia related crap, 32GB of memory, ****ty battery life and an unlocked bootloader. With the XL you get a better SoC, 16GB of memory, LTE, better battery life, tons of AT&T "enhancements," and potentially no way to remove them if the bootloader stays locked. Pick your poison.
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I think it's the perfect time. The Vivid community waited too long and they had to wait 2 months to get an unlock from HTC
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Yup. I agree that it's still possible we'll get an unlock (like the Vivid), but no amount of pressure is ever too much. The more we press AT&T and HTC, the better.
They don't really care about our community or our protests. But, like a little pest, they want us out of their hair. If we continue to be pests, they will get frustrated and cede to us.
Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
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Not bad I guess ...
www.mobilemag.com/2013/02/14/motorola-atrix-hd-customer-satisfaction/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
MOTO gives a very nice performance at a very nice price that's why i like moto
The statistical difference between 8.57 and 8.23 could very well be mute. In other words everyone is equally satisfied by their phone here.
Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Oh, definitely no. Check out the general section of the og Atrix 4G forums... threads and threads with countless others saying the same thing
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Nah, I'm with you on that one. This is my 2nd bad experience with Moto, and it's like "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
I had a CliqXT which wasn't bad at the time and came with Eclair (2.1), we were on their timeline for the great GB update and it kept getting pushed further and further, finally after half a year of waiting Moto pulled out and said no, you're stuck on 2.1 Fortunately we weren't locked down and Turl brought us CM7.
A few phones later, here I am with the Atrix2, a completely locked down phone that leaves you at the mercy of Moto to update it and do something with it, and we all know how much you can rely on Moto to satisfy their customers. They said that they would unlock bootloaders, technically they did, but nowhere near the capacity that Moto users as a whole appreciate. It's a shame too, because their hardware is solid, but ultimately it's their loss.
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Am i the only one who says that i'm not going to buy another motorola phone?
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Me too! Switching to samsung or htc next.
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saw that. Moto satisfies customers who don't hack into their phones and do stuff they like! They want us to stick with what they give by locking up stuff. That's where it sucks! :/
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+1 Normal User: "This phone is alright, I can make calls and post pics of my kitten on Facebook." Dev/Modder: "****ing Motorola!"
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I bet if they conducted the survey here on XDA, the result would be drastically different. I have a friend with the Razor, and another with an Atrix HD. My old Skyrocket, running CM10.1 nightly, with a custom kernel and radio, out performs both in almost every aspect. It's a shame that Moto would make such a potentially incredible device and then hide most of that potential behind a locked boot loader under the guise of protecting me from myself. Definitely my last Motorola device. End rant, back to work for me.lol
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Agreed, I would LOVE to know if we will get root on the Ultra and Maxx before I buy one of them!
I really hope someone works on root, I would love to get this phone but I need wireless tethering!
Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
I'd like to know if anyone is working on it as well...
I don't necessarily need to be able to do ROMs, but I'd like to get root to see if I can get the AOSP browser on this damn thing. I need the bookmark syncing with Chrome on my PC, but the Chrome app just blows. AOSP browser works perfectly.
I, too, assume it'll be a similar root process as the Moto X since they're almost completely identical. But the SW on the Moto X is even less modified than on our Droids, so that small difference might be part of a significant difference when it comes down to rooting. So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
I'm giving it the two weeks that the return policy is for root to arrive. If it isn't available by then I'll eat the $35 restock fee and get myself a 32GB S4 (and go through all the trouble again of transferring phones...). Tethering is far too important to be potentially stuck without it.
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So far it looks as if you've got to unlock the bootloader of the Moto X via the moto dev site, then flash a rooted kernel. That won't translate to the Ultra because of the different kernel :/
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Motorola doesn't offer a bootloader unlock for this phone, so we can't go that route yet. It will have to be a real exploit with temp root if /system modifications can't survive reboots.
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Root will end up coming. I believe the verizon moto x will be the same root method.
Unlocked, thats the million dollar question.
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Took like 9 months to unlock the Razr HD, but you have the potential help of the Moto X to speed things along (All carriers). Although I don't foresee many developers jumping on the Moto X bandwagon based on the specs. I dunno, it could go either way. Good luck to you all, I'm ditching my Razr HD for a G2
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Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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These devices just came out. Please give it a little time and people will get cracking on the dev side.
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Right now you have very, very little chance of getting a root. And about a bootloader unlock. I would more than likely guess that was a one time deal. So if you bought this and are waiting for a root/bootloader unlock. You are going to be disappointed.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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A little off topic - think the One has a better chance? I know HTC isn't normally your wheelhouse, but with your connections and all...
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it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
Tweet him
I hope it does come but this phone will just be my backup phone for when I'm giving my S4 a breather, I took care of my S4 before that software update thankfully.
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I'm sure root will find its way. The unlocked boot loader makes me nervous though. I'm curious if something like safestrap will make its way to these phones. I'm still hoping that the combined attention of the four devices and the popularity of the moto x will get these devices an unlocked boot loader.
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Why are you so sure? There are a handful of people who have the ability to do root for this device, and afaik none of them "NONE" of them have expressed an interest to work on this.
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Ignore the prompt to update for now, no matter how annoying it might be. Like someone else said, with so many devices sharing common architecture root is just a matter of time. Bootloaders are a different story.
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there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
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i'm sure Root will be re shortly .
Hope in @djrbliss for root and bootloader exploit , he has hacked Razr HD bootloader here
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he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
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there isnt any known exploits to patch so how would an update patch them?
he said he was done with Moto after he unlocked the last generation razrs.
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There very well may be, but moto is not going to make that public in most cases. It's easier to patch in silence and not tip anyone off.
andybones said:
it's hard to tell.
I have the s4 which I will dump soon, as I am about 99% sure unlock is not coming.
I am keeping my s3 though.
I also have the HTC One, I DO feel we will get unlock at the least, and hopefully S-OFF.
I usually give all my phones at least 6 months before moving on.
Thinking of going to buy the moto x just for kicks as I never own moto device and the X peeks my interest, I feel I could use it and toss it around and not have to worry about it and it can take it, compared to my HTC one that's like a watch (jewelery.)
Curious to play with the different software, HTC Sense is and always has been favorite, Touchwiz grew on me greatly, and want to check out this moto x. /I usually can't live without root, but I wouldn't be using the phone activated, just to have it.
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Yeah the main thing keeping me holding onto this S4 is the fact it has MDK. Otherwise I generally am liking the One better now - though the S4 camera sure can take some great shots and tends to last a bit longer on the battery. The Maxx is pretty awesome... camera is mediocre, but better once you get used to its idiosyncrasies. It's basically pure Android, so if you love sense, you might be bored with it. But if there's any phone that hiccups less than the One, it's this one. Incredibly smooth and snappy experience. And obviously great battery life... Voice controls are pretty cool, too. Not perfect, but still pretty cool
I hope this is the right place for this post and if not I apologize in advance. I currently have a Verizon Galaxy S4 which is my first smart phone so going in, I didn't know much about rooting and flashing and other modifications so as I began tinkering, I was very unhappy to find my bootloader had been locked. I've had this phone a while and being unable to flash AOSP roms and the like is really starting to get annoying so I have been browsing Swappa and considering a new phone. I very much do like the M8 and it seems to be my best option for a decent upgrade without breaking the bank. I was wondering if all versions of the Verizon M8 are completely unlock-able or if there are things I should look for when buying this phone. Are there any software updates that have locked the bootloader down to the point that there is no unlock solution? Is there anything specific I should avoid when looking to purchase this phone? On a similar note, should putting my sim from my S4 into this phone just work or will I need to go through Verizon and get the device approved? Thank you in advance for any replies and I apologize again if this is the wrong place to post this.
The Sunshine unlock is available for $25 for all devices running Android 4.4.3 or below. Sunshine hasn't been updated to support Android 4.4.4 yet. If you want to S-OFF, unlock your bootloader, and root the device you will need a phone running either Android 4.4.2 or Android 4.4.3. The Galaxy S4 uses a micro SIM and the M8 uses a nano SIM. You can try cutting your current SIM down, but the best option is to get a new SIM.
That's honestly what I was wondering as well, and it's something good to know once I make the switch from a Note 2 to the m8.
I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
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I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
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I dont know about OP, but I know for me I am okay with not having an unlocked bootloader. The droid turbo has way too many problems, the nexus 6 has its share of problems and hasn't been announced for Verizon yet, and Touchwhiz is way too laggy and buggy for me to even consider it after having the Note 2 for two years.
Coming from flashing everything posted on XDA to my Galaxy S3 I was pretty happy with Sense 6. It's a bit of its own spin but is honestly pretty bearable. Battery life is perfect (with heavy use near a days use easy), fast and takes wonderful pictures. I miss the ability to swap out batteries but it's really not too much of an issue with this phone. Front facing speakers are wonderful and seem pretty obvious with BoomSound suprisingly not a gimmick
My only real complaint is the stock emojis HTC throws at you, but that's pretty minimal.
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I switched from a Galaxy S5 and my mistake was not doing enough research I ended up getting a M8 on 4.4.4 and now I'm stock again with a locked bootloader for now, you're definitely gonna want to make sure that you get a phone on 4.4.3 or lower
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Is there root available on 4.4.4 at least or is that also locked down?
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Is there root available on 4.4.4 at least or is that also locked down?
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Nope
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487&page=172 refer to post 1715, shouldn't be too much longer. These dudes are committed and put out top notch work. Just a little longer :victory:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487&page=172 refer to post 1715, shouldn't be too much longer. These dudes are committed and put out top notch work. Just a little longer :victory:
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I was on their live IRC chat and jcase has been saying 1.5 - 2.5 months for 3.0 to be released
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I was on their live IRC chat and jcase has been saying 1.5 - 2.5 months for 3.0 to be released
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Thanks for the heads up man! That'll give me a little more time to get sick of being locked down and ultimately appreciate the freedom more whenever it arrives haha
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That's honestly what I was wondering as well, and it's something good to know once I make the switch from a Note 2 to the m8.
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I went from a Note 2 to the M8. It was painless. I purchased a sim cutter from Amazon for $5. I cut the sim and all's well.
i left the note 3..... and i love it! especially the sound output.... its absolutely amazing! over bluetooth or headphones. its night and day over the note 3....
just try and find one that's already s-off and unlocked.
good luck!
js0uth said:
i left the note 3..... and i love it! especially the sound output.... its absolutely amazing! over bluetooth or headphones. its night and day over the note 3....
just try and find one that's already s-off and unlocked.
good luck!
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I'm considering switching from the Note 3 as this latest update has all but killed development and pretty much all the developers are jumping ship.
thegamerdarkseid said:
I'm considering switching from the Note 3 as this latest update has all but killed development and pretty much all the developers are jumping ship.
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All of the devs working to unlock the S4 have jumped ship as well. We lost about 4 guys that were really working hard to unlock it.