Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
I read the same thing. I was thinking about grabbing the evo 3d when that comes out. But I'm after reading that article, I'm almost certain that evo 3d will have a encrypted bootloader.
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Doesn't mean it can't be re-rommed.
The galaxy tab I'm currently using had signed bootloaders, they aren't a problem anymore.
The devs here will figure a way around it.
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Wow, hopefully they don't turn into Motorola when it comes to that.
More glad than ever I stuck to my guns and got my Android then.
No Root or Custom Roms means no go for me to pull the trigger.
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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This makes sense. More devs focused on the issue will bring about more advancement.
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
magnumforce2006 said:
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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oooooh I see
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Not entirely true. The dx still cannot get custom kernels which means no non-stock based tons (cyangoen/miui)
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Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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errrr , the droidx booloader has NOT been crack, they only have half baked roms , they have 2.3 roms because a 2.3 rom leaked from motorola, otherwise they'd still be stuck on 2.2
I guess that just means that the Android devs that work for HTC and MOTO are a tad smarter then the ones that work for apple.
Shame that they are putting that knowledge into locking the phones down though.
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There's a diff between locked and encrypted/locked. The htc inspire has a basically locked boot loader but isn't encrypted. There's also a diff between rooting and flashing custom roms. Even the atrix is rooted, but the bootloader is locked down thus no custom roms.
The news media doesn't seem to understand the terminology. I still don't know for sure if the thunderbolt bootloader is actually encrypted or just locked and won't until I hear from a dev who knows what he's talking about.
Then if it is, there's the question of how it is encrypted. A shame either way. We can thank the crotchety carriers like at&t for pressuring this.
p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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See what I said earlier in action buahahaha. No really that's freakin awesome.
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p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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can someone confirm this? havent heard about this anywhere else
Chad_Petree said:
Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
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No I rooted the inspire in ten minutes. Playstation 3 was encrypted and look at the turnout of it now.
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Signed bootloader confirmed:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-bootloader-custom-rom-support-is-in-danger/
I didnt think anyone actually thought this WOULDN'T happen. I mean I totally expected it. Thats why I didn't even bother waiting.
They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
Surely, but it might take some time. It took a while to go perm-root on the Thunderbolt. Might take longer on this.
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They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
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Only if they can find the keys.
it'll get cracked, but have you seen the thunderbolt rooting process? not the simplest. i'm on a N1 but will make a move soon, probably to the g2x because its unlockable. i do love htc hardware though.
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
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Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.
Deng, I was about to wait for the Sensation too. I made the right choice buying the G2x. Can't wait for more development on this!
Well this is good news to me as it merely proves to me that I made the right choice. This phone is barely 3 weeks old and we already have 17 CM nightlies. Yea I'm good. Glad I didn't torture myself by trying to wait.
The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.
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The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.
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My thoughts exactly, just that much too big...I did like that Evo though. But this is a better one!
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Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.
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Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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Damn, and I thought getting s-off on my g2 was a pain.
mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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Correct, it's not hardware locked which Moto did with eFuse. But anything not signed with the proper keys won't work. So in effect, it's just as bad as what Moto did, difference is that HTC is doing it at the software level.
mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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It is encrypted from what the article said.
VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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lengthyyyyy sheesh... doesn't seem too difficult though.... The Inspire isn't a walk in the park either... HTC is locking their phones DOWN
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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Does it really matter. Coming from the vibrant I like to mod. But I still like the sensation. Its just not quite what I want.
The dedicated games to the tegra. The vanilla android. The dual core for multi tasking. Modders dream. That is the g2x.
Not the sensation.
The only thing I miss is the toggle options being in the notification pull down. And it seems that will be a short lived problem.
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JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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I dunno. Not hard to follow directions, but I think that adb is intimidating to a lot of people. It was for me until I rolled my sleeves up and made myself use it.
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http://htcdev.com/ this says it all
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It'd be interesting to see if or how this is useful for our developers.
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"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I would rather have an unofficial bootloader unlock than one that htc can say voids my warranty...
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my thoughts exactly, which is what im sure will come of this though, sacrifice 1 or 2 to figure it out for the rest!
Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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BoulderGeek said:
"The Bootloader Unlock web tool is coming soon. Check back often for official updates."
Um, yeah, they did...something... :-| :-/
Hitting F5 until something materializes.
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They released the OpenSense SDK today...
They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
eraursls1984 said:
I hope the devs figure out another way to unlock future phones besides that method or I won't be buying anymore HTC phones. That will void your warranty, and so far I've had 4 defective HTC phones out of 4 so I wouldn't take the chance and give up my warranty.
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I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
EmmVeePee said:
I'm on my 3rd... haven't had a problem with either of the 3.
Sounds like user error to me.
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My problems must have been user error, the power button was sticking and it was recessed into the phone, another one had a messed up audio jack, the next had the same issue and this one has the audio jack issue as well just not as bad and this new one also has random reboots even on the new OTA GB radio, the last three only had reboots on froyo radios.
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Evo 3D has perma-temp root. They're starting to figure it out.
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The Evo3D has s-off via AlphaRev and Unrevoked's Revolutionary tool....
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They also released the source code for the kernels on all HTC phones. Don't know if that was done before or not but it seems like that should be useful.
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They always release the source to the kernel, just not always right away. It was posted before on http://developer.htc.com
They'll unlock the bootloader to the evo 3d and sensation but not the tbolt. Their unlocking tool will require you to provide them with your device information to void your warranty. Only good I see is developers might be able to use the tool to unlock other devices like the tbolt and future devices without having to provide htc with any of your phones information.
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mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
queva1 said:
mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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On top of that from what I have been reading it is somewhat limiting when compared to s-off. No hboot, radio, or splash1 flashing. Last I heard kernels had to be fastbooted on. There is probably more I don't know about. Voids your warranty and you can't even switch around to find what radio works best for you. Unlocked my a$$!!
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Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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How come when you go to htcdev.com no verizon phones are listed for unlocking bootloader including the thunderbolt? I wouldn't use the site anyways but trust me when I say no verizon phone will appear on that site, carriers own manufacturers and verizon hates unlocked/rooted/modified phones on their network!
Also thanks for the troll comment in flattered!
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mark my words no verizon device will show up on the dev site for unlocking
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I've been saying that since day one when HTC announced these "plans". I think Verizon has enough "pull" with HTC to make sure none of 'their' phones will be supported.
yareally said:
Oh hi mr. troll. I see you failed to check how their unlocker works. It supports all HTC phones, but I would avoid using it since they record the results and probably note that you were rooted if you have a warranty issue.
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Glad to see you can read.... From HTC's website for this, they clearly state
You asked for it, we delivered. Use this tool to install custom firmware on selected HTC Android devices.
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I bolded and italicized the important parts since you missed them the first time.
Further, from their FAQ on this subject:
Will all HTC devices be unlocked?
HTC is committed to assisting customers in unlocking bootloaders for HTC devices. However, certain models may not be unlockable due to operator restrictions.
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so i switched from sprint with my evo to at&t and got a samsung infuse..and ive had it for about 6 months and blah im not a fan of the whole samsung thing, ive always been a fan of sense.
is this phone still a good phone even though there are newer phones out at the moment?
i really want something with alot of support so i was gonna choose this phone over the new vivid.
mainguy21 said:
so i switched from sprint with my evo to at&t and got a samsung infuse..and ive had it for about 6 months and blah im not a fan of the whole samsung thing, ive always been a fan of sense.
is this phone still a good phone even though there are newer phones out at the moment?
i really want something with alot of support so i was gonna choose this phone over the new vivid.
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Don't chose a phone on the dev support. Dev switch devices so much it is not funny. Chose a device that does what you need it to. The custom roms are a bonus but not enough to base buying a new phone on
The new vivid is pretty sweet. The vivid is new but will be getting supported probably longer down the road than the inspire.
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The new vivid is pretty sweet. The vivid is new but will be getting supported probably longer down the road than the inspire.
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Its sweet but its also locked down tighter than a dolphins ass. Can't wait until the bootloader is unlocked on that thing.
There isn't even perm-root yet.
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Don't rip me a new one, I'm just putting options out there. There's always the LG Nitro HD. or the Desire HD2.
Still no perm root. That is crazy. HTC should just stop locking bootloaders.
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Gizmoe said:
Still no perm root. That is crazy. HTC should just stop locking bootloaders.
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I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
zelendel said:
I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
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Except HTC promised us no more locked bootloaders.
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Pirateghost said:
Except HTC promised us no more locked bootloaders.
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Agreed I know they promised not to, but even you PG have seen the issues from it. Can you imagine dealing with it on a much larger scale? Hell i would go nuts. Personally they should never had said that.
zelendel said:
I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
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True. I imagine they just want to watch their backs. They should have never told us they where going to unlock them though and then turnaround and make it tighter than ever. Kind of a lame move from HTC. They could at least leave them a little easier to hack for devs.
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True. I imagine they just want to watch their backs. They should have never told us they where going to unlock them though and then turnaround and make it tighter than ever. Kind of a lame move from HTC. They could at least leave them a little easier to hack for devs.
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Agreed. I think there should be an option or a tool for those that are willing to put the time and energy into understanding what they are doing to be able to unlock and mod them. HTC has normally been good about it. Hell XDA was built using HTC devices. We can only wait and see what happens.
I thought when HTC announced about unlocking future bootloaders they also said it would be an automatic cease of warranty. So once you tripped that flag you were on your own if you screwed up the phone. So if that flag was on an HTC server not even the Devs could put it back to original. HTC would be in the clear.
On another note, PG, just how do you know how tight a dolphin's a$$ is? You have been out to sea just way too long. Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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On another note, PG, just how do you know how tight a dolphin's a$$ is? You have been out to sea just way too long. Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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I LOL'd. Real Hard.
Just wondering if we will ever see a one click root for the HTC EVO SHIFT 4G running 2.3.3 :/
I used to root using ADB, actually, my samsung intercept is still rooted....But I have no warranty on my evo, nor do I plan on buying one from sprint.. Really don't wanna go through this phone like I did with my intercepts messing them up
(pretty much just want to fix my 3g speeds and use downloaded apps and one theme...not looking to do a bunch of roms or kernals or eclair etc like I did with my intercept before I moved to froyo haha.)
Highly doubt it since we figured out how to downgrade and root that way but you never know. There might be a dev out there looking for an exploit
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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crump84 said:
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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From what i've read on it, it unlocks bootloader but it still has S-on but as always i could be wrong
I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
IWillNotChange said:
I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
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strapped365 said:
Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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You realize that after you downgrade you can flash any Gingerbread or ICS ROM that you like. You can also update to the latest radio's. The only this that will stay downgraded is bootloader.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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LOL just like his name says.. IWillNotChange even in the views of downgrading all jokes my friend. But we do cause stock gingerbread roms that was only alter to have superuser rights.
IWillNotChange said:
Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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One Click Root at this point will probably never happen. The reason is we have a downgrade root and the source to ICS is out in the wild so what few devs we have seem to be more interested in getting ICS working on the Shift. So if you want a rooted shift your only choice at this time is to downgrade.
This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)
Needs a sticky!
Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.
iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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SoberGuy said:
It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.
Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
nugzo said:
Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.
PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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