Signed bootloader confirmed:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-bootloader-custom-rom-support-is-in-danger/
I didnt think anyone actually thought this WOULDN'T happen. I mean I totally expected it. Thats why I didn't even bother waiting.
They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
Surely, but it might take some time. It took a while to go perm-root on the Thunderbolt. Might take longer on this.
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They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
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Only if they can find the keys.
it'll get cracked, but have you seen the thunderbolt rooting process? not the simplest. i'm on a N1 but will make a move soon, probably to the g2x because its unlockable. i do love htc hardware though.
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
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Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.
Deng, I was about to wait for the Sensation too. I made the right choice buying the G2x. Can't wait for more development on this!
Well this is good news to me as it merely proves to me that I made the right choice. This phone is barely 3 weeks old and we already have 17 CM nightlies. Yea I'm good. Glad I didn't torture myself by trying to wait.
The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.
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The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.
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My thoughts exactly, just that much too big...I did like that Evo though. But this is a better one!
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Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.
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Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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Damn, and I thought getting s-off on my g2 was a pain.
mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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Correct, it's not hardware locked which Moto did with eFuse. But anything not signed with the proper keys won't work. So in effect, it's just as bad as what Moto did, difference is that HTC is doing it at the software level.
mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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It is encrypted from what the article said.
VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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lengthyyyyy sheesh... doesn't seem too difficult though.... The Inspire isn't a walk in the park either... HTC is locking their phones DOWN
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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Does it really matter. Coming from the vibrant I like to mod. But I still like the sensation. Its just not quite what I want.
The dedicated games to the tegra. The vanilla android. The dual core for multi tasking. Modders dream. That is the g2x.
Not the sensation.
The only thing I miss is the toggle options being in the notification pull down. And it seems that will be a short lived problem.
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JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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I dunno. Not hard to follow directions, but I think that adb is intimidating to a lot of people. It was for me until I rolled my sleeves up and made myself use it.
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Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
I read the same thing. I was thinking about grabbing the evo 3d when that comes out. But I'm after reading that article, I'm almost certain that evo 3d will have a encrypted bootloader.
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Doesn't mean it can't be re-rommed.
The galaxy tab I'm currently using had signed bootloaders, they aren't a problem anymore.
The devs here will figure a way around it.
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Wow, hopefully they don't turn into Motorola when it comes to that.
More glad than ever I stuck to my guns and got my Android then.
No Root or Custom Roms means no go for me to pull the trigger.
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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This makes sense. More devs focused on the issue will bring about more advancement.
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
magnumforce2006 said:
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
Chad_Petree said:
it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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oooooh I see
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
ZXMustang said:
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Not entirely true. The dx still cannot get custom kernels which means no non-stock based tons (cyangoen/miui)
ZXMustang said:
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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errrr , the droidx booloader has NOT been crack, they only have half baked roms , they have 2.3 roms because a 2.3 rom leaked from motorola, otherwise they'd still be stuck on 2.2
I guess that just means that the Android devs that work for HTC and MOTO are a tad smarter then the ones that work for apple.
Shame that they are putting that knowledge into locking the phones down though.
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There's a diff between locked and encrypted/locked. The htc inspire has a basically locked boot loader but isn't encrypted. There's also a diff between rooting and flashing custom roms. Even the atrix is rooted, but the bootloader is locked down thus no custom roms.
The news media doesn't seem to understand the terminology. I still don't know for sure if the thunderbolt bootloader is actually encrypted or just locked and won't until I hear from a dev who knows what he's talking about.
Then if it is, there's the question of how it is encrypted. A shame either way. We can thank the crotchety carriers like at&t for pressuring this.
p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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See what I said earlier in action buahahaha. No really that's freakin awesome.
BelacNongaw said:
p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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can someone confirm this? havent heard about this anywhere else
Chad_Petree said:
Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
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No I rooted the inspire in ten minutes. Playstation 3 was encrypted and look at the turnout of it now.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-incredibles-gingerbread-update-pushing-out-now-weve-got-manual-install-instructions
i assume were next.
fixxxer2008 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-incredibles-gingerbread-update-pushing-out-now-weve-got-manual-install-instructions
i assume were next.
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The dInc also got Gingerbread 2 weeks ago, then the OTA was stopped due to some serious issues with it. Those dInc guys crack me up. It's just something about the whining about not getting Sense 3.0 with it and their insane belief that the dInc is best device ever constructed. I swear, if I read one more post where the writer says something like "Sadly, I got a dInc2 from Asurion as a warranty replacement instead of another AMOLED dInc" (like they got totally screwed in the deal!), I'm gonna find them and shove that phone up their piss hole.
I actually miss my dinc a lot. It's a great little phone. Great specs. Great dev support. Only thing keeping me from going back is 4G.
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the only reason i want our OTA is for a newer hopefully more stable radio.
Ianxcom said:
I actually miss my dinc a lot. It's a great little phone. Great specs. Great dev support. Only thing keeping me from going back is 4G.
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the Dinc is a nice phone but too small for me. the tbolt reminds me of my old evo4g, that's why i bought it. i think my next phone will be the htc vigor.
I thought you were leaving??? You stormed off yesterday.
You know what, I think you deserve a better device. Treat yourself to something nice.
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lrs421 said:
I thought you were leaving??? You stormed off yesterday.
You know what, I think you deserve a better device. Treat yourself to something nice.
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whats your problem man? is it really that hard for you to not troll? do you really think the likes of you would scare me off here?...that's laughable and apparently you do not know my rep on xda.
What killed the Dinc was that it didn't have enough memory to run sense. I have a Dinc & a TBolt and I have 270 mb free most of the time with the TBolt and only 70 -100 mb free on the Dinc. The Dinc has a stripped down sense rom and the TBolt rom has most everything.
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whats your problem man? is it really that hard for you to not troll? do you really think the likes of you would scare me off here?...that's laughable and apparently you do not know my rep on xda.
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I dont have a problem, you're the one flooding the threads with non sense. All flames aside, why do you create SOOOO many meaningless threads. The other day you said you were bored, but please, spare the rest of us. I dont want to scare you off, really. But how many more of these threads are you going to create? You're the one who said you were done, not me.
Futhermore, this is nothing more than a disguised versus thread. We have a thunderbolt, why should we care about the Incredible ota. You seem like a decent guy but geesh.
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I didn't really understand why he created a thread about being bored and said anyone could talk about anything and then he got a little mad about something and started closing all of his threads in retaliation
Ohhhhh wellll :/
While we're on random discussions not about the Thunderbolt, the Moto Bionic comes out thursday. It looks kind of ugly shell wise and comes with moto blur :/. Nothing about whether it's locked down, but it probably is, since it was long in the works before google bought moto.
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I dont have a problem, you're the one flooding the threads with non sense. All flames aside, why do you create SOOOO many meaningless threads. The other day you said you were bored, but please, spare the rest of us. I dont want to scare you off, really. But how many more of these threads are you going to create? You're the one who said you were done, not me.
Futhermore, this is nothing more than a disguised versus thread. We have a thunderbolt, why should we care about the Incredible ota. You seem like a decent guy but geesh.
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ill post what i please, your not a mod. simple as that. i don't need you trolling every thread i make just to ask why i made it. why don't you try to contribute more here than just reading.
yareally said:
I didn't really understand why he created a thread about being bored and said anyone could talk about anything and then he got a little mad about something and started closing all of his threads in retaliation
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cause some people on here are dicks, thats why!
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ill post what i please, your not a mod. simple as that. i don't need you trolling every thread i make just to ask why i made it. why don't you try to contribute more here than just reading.
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Spoken like the true troll king
So does this mean you're not trading your thunderbolt or having sim card issues or really ticked? Considering you made threads about each of these in the past couple of days. But you're right about one thing, I should just ignore you.
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Best phone every tell that to me who went through 6 Inc all for reasons that had nothing to do with Rooting or dropping the phone. The phone over heated on a few of them and fried the board. Some phone would reboot and wipe my phone clean for no reason. I did get to keep the last phone which my daughter has as a video game phone so she would keep her hands off my TB, and surprising it been a great game system/netflix for her anyways. But I would have loved to get upgraded to the new phone as a replacement it only happened to me one time but I was like HELL YEA, and that was back when it was a flip phone but I got a 3.2 MP camera.
Can't we all just get along
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scottthreet32 said:
Can't we all just get along
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kinda hard when every thread i make gets trolled.
The incredible was a good phone but the Tbolt definately has advantages over it. I wouldn't trade my Tbolt back for the Incredible but it definately was a good phone.
Havoc70 said:
The incredible was a good phone but the Tbolt definately has advantages over it. I wouldn't trade my Tbolt back for the Incredible but it definately was a good phone.
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Don't say that over in the dInc forum. They'll hang you by your balls.
Wouldnt Think of it....LOL
fixxxer2008 said:
the only reason i want our OTA is for a newer hopefully more stable radio.
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The radio from the 2.11 leak is freakin great. I know with the TB it seems different phones respond to different radios but I have seen more positive posts about the one from the 2.11 leak then any other radio. I got 15 hours of heavy heavy usage the other day after flashing a new ROM and that radio before I even changed all my settings to help optimize battery life. Plus my 4G hasn't cut out on me at all like it did sometimes before.
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so i switched from sprint with my evo to at&t and got a samsung infuse..and ive had it for about 6 months and blah im not a fan of the whole samsung thing, ive always been a fan of sense.
is this phone still a good phone even though there are newer phones out at the moment?
i really want something with alot of support so i was gonna choose this phone over the new vivid.
mainguy21 said:
so i switched from sprint with my evo to at&t and got a samsung infuse..and ive had it for about 6 months and blah im not a fan of the whole samsung thing, ive always been a fan of sense.
is this phone still a good phone even though there are newer phones out at the moment?
i really want something with alot of support so i was gonna choose this phone over the new vivid.
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Don't chose a phone on the dev support. Dev switch devices so much it is not funny. Chose a device that does what you need it to. The custom roms are a bonus but not enough to base buying a new phone on
The new vivid is pretty sweet. The vivid is new but will be getting supported probably longer down the road than the inspire.
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The new vivid is pretty sweet. The vivid is new but will be getting supported probably longer down the road than the inspire.
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Its sweet but its also locked down tighter than a dolphins ass. Can't wait until the bootloader is unlocked on that thing.
There isn't even perm-root yet.
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Don't rip me a new one, I'm just putting options out there. There's always the LG Nitro HD. or the Desire HD2.
Still no perm root. That is crazy. HTC should just stop locking bootloaders.
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Still no perm root. That is crazy. HTC should just stop locking bootloaders.
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I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
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I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
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Except HTC promised us no more locked bootloaders.
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Except HTC promised us no more locked bootloaders.
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Agreed I know they promised not to, but even you PG have seen the issues from it. Can you imagine dealing with it on a much larger scale? Hell i would go nuts. Personally they should never had said that.
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I am sure when stupid people admit there are things they shouldnt mess with and stop messing with things they will. I mean I am sure we have all seen people brick device after device because they are to lazy to do the research. Last thing the OEM want are hundreds of returns and repairs cause people were messing with things that they have no biz messing with
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True. I imagine they just want to watch their backs. They should have never told us they where going to unlock them though and then turnaround and make it tighter than ever. Kind of a lame move from HTC. They could at least leave them a little easier to hack for devs.
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True. I imagine they just want to watch their backs. They should have never told us they where going to unlock them though and then turnaround and make it tighter than ever. Kind of a lame move from HTC. They could at least leave them a little easier to hack for devs.
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Agreed. I think there should be an option or a tool for those that are willing to put the time and energy into understanding what they are doing to be able to unlock and mod them. HTC has normally been good about it. Hell XDA was built using HTC devices. We can only wait and see what happens.
I thought when HTC announced about unlocking future bootloaders they also said it would be an automatic cease of warranty. So once you tripped that flag you were on your own if you screwed up the phone. So if that flag was on an HTC server not even the Devs could put it back to original. HTC would be in the clear.
On another note, PG, just how do you know how tight a dolphin's a$$ is? You have been out to sea just way too long. Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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On another note, PG, just how do you know how tight a dolphin's a$$ is? You have been out to sea just way too long. Sorry, just couldn't resist.
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I LOL'd. Real Hard.
T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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OK now I have the phone on it's way. I know I can't get s-off but would like to know what I can and can't do until that solution has been found. I am also reading up so not looking for the lazy way out.
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T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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Pretty sure the Sidekick has reported A LOT of hardware problems.... check there forums here as well, but I do recall it being a high-problem phone.
You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
You can't possibly go wrong with this device.
Developer "Blue61X" has even bought two of these devices because he loves it so much. if that helps
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I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
Yea, it's great. I can't see anything else coming close to it for a while in it's class ( hardware keyboard )
The stock battery is not great - and that's being polite.
You can find links to the battery threads in the contents page of my sticky in dev - basically you have the cheaper Anker or the more expensive Mugen to choose from to replace it with.
If you have/want to spend the money, the Mugen is great - I rock an Anker myself and love it.
Make use of the tv-out through the headphones jack, I play a lot of games output to a tv screen and the device stays alive and active while you are hooked up. I'm sure you can imagine how much more fun racing games and many others will be like this.
You can also find links to the tv threads in the dev reference, which will tell you what cable to get.
I have a Trident case on my primary, and love it. There's a decent thread on cases, but I've been pretty busy around here and haven't had the chance to update it in a while. I'll get back to it sometime.
Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
Any specific questions just toss 'em out there - but there is no other device now or that we know of coming that I would trade this for.
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I'm leaning this way.... haven't had much chance to explore this forum yet... Is it possible to get s-off yet?
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Depends. For the new update, which you'll have, you got a chance with the HTC unlock tool - if that works you can do most stuff.
We are actively working on a downgrade to S-OFF option - this led to me getting S-OFF to S -ON for us a couple hours ago and I'll be bringing one of my devices up to the S-ON locked state you'll get it in later tonight.
Then I'll be able to actually try stuff instead of us guessing - all the devs working on the fix were S-OFF already so figuring out how to flip it S-ON was a big step in productivity. Once I update in S -ON, I'm stuck until we figure it out - so don't worry man, right there with ya.
HTC should have the issue resolved and restart the OTA in the not too distant future.
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DO NOT SIDEKICK 4G i have that phone and its slow as ****, no roms, very hard to put clockwork mod on it,
the olny good thing about it is the keyboard and i personally prefer the mytouch 4g slides keybaord
@ Blue: looking forward to the success of your work and all that I can learn from you and the other devs. I personally use the Samsung galaxy s 4g and am getting this phone to replace my wife's mt3gs and think I'm going to be jealous from the little bit that I've read.
@wiswis: already placed the order for the mytouch. I posted something similar to this in the sidekick forum and plenty of people have viewed but no post. They made the decision very easy.
Thank you everyone for your input.
Definitely the mt4gs
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Once you change a few keymappings, update with my gps fix and start really playing with it you'll love it.
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Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
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Just a little word about the GPS. On the 1.28.531.10 stock ROM, your GPS fix was a huge improvement. However, now that I'm on the 1.55.531.3 stock ROM, the GPS is lightening quick and accurate without any adjustments on my part. HTC must have done some serious tweaking to the GPS code in this ROM.
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You know, I wasn't thinking when I wrote that - there was a bunch of GPS stuff that was pushed for the new update, a new SUPL cert and gps.conf file. I meant to take a look at it to see what they did and if it still needed help or not, but haven't had a chance to yet.
Hopefully I'll have the presence of mind to pull them from my other phone now that it's up to date stovk
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Lol
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leoilios said:
Lol
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Get her this phone. The new sidekick was a flop.
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T mobile is offering me a choice between a Sidekick 4g and a myTouch 4g slide.... I've read the specs and seems the mytouch is higher end but want to know opinions from users who know whats what. like I said I've read the specs already so I am trying to look past the black and white.
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If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
i think you get the idea by now, but i'll just say, the keyboard is the ONLY POSSIBLE reason you might choose the SK. i've had both, and there is no comparison... MT4GS all the way.
LMFAO! Screw the damn keyboard. I can't wait to dig into this phone and see what it can do. Only downside is my wife said I only get one weekend to set it up before she takes it away. NOW that I have the phone on order and I'll only have the weekend to mess with it any suggestions on what I should start with until s-off is achieved?
Depends what hboot u get. If u get the older one, ur in business. Ez to root and s-off.
Use rubix ics 5.2 with my directions on page 148 of its thread on rootzwiki, if u want stability with everything working and super fast. If she wants ics, tbalden's rom probably. But all the 4.0.X roms are still a work in progress.
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bmw2105 said:
If you read the specs alone it should be nothing but obvious what phone to choose its like asking should i go with a free geo or a BMW .........
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BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.
I want the stuff that lets me dig in.... my wife doesn't care. she just wants it to work. as far as getting 4.0 on it, don't really care yet either way yet.
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
BMW's are having recalls. Soo. . . .
Just my spare change.
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You get the idea lol.
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bmw2105 said:
You get the idea lol.
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I know. I couldn't resist, as i just took in my Beamer to get the recall fixed Wednesday
I saw this another website (can't link you to it, against XDA rules, sorry!) and it looked interesting. Give me your opinions, thoughts.
***DISCLAIMER***
In no way do I have any solid information from T-Mobile regarding the new MyTouch line, I am simply posting based on information from tmonews.com, and other sites.
According to sources (and a very convincing video posted by the guys over at engadget), the newest Manufacturer to add the MyTouch to their resume will be Huawei. It is said to be a mid range phone, however testers have stated that potential buyers should not be concerned about the device being mid range, stating that it is very solid, and smooth in testing.
My only experience with Huawei has been very low end entry devices, so I am curious what other's thoughts on this might be. Give me your opinions in the comments!
References:
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/upcom...ked-on-camera/
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/03/hands...e-from-huawei/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/28/t...erty-hands-on/
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The hell? It seems like we have the best my touch ever made after all
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THEindian said:
The hell? It seems like we have the best my touch ever made after all
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I know. The LG was crap, obviously. But Huawei? Their phones are awful..
invasion2 said:
I know. The LG was crap, obviously. But Huawei? Their phones are awful..
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The LG MyTouch is actually pretty good.
bmg1001 said:
The LG MyTouch is actually pretty good.
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Compared to a pantech or a huawei, maybe.
I heard the Huawei is gonna be pretty good. All they've made is entry level, so obviously the experience won't be up to par. They introduced some new high end stuff at ctia or whatever just passed lately. Give em a chance, at least read a review first
--sent from my glacier.
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I know. But Huawei? Their phones are awful..
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Previous post is about this
--sent from my glacier.
i just got the new myTouch last week when it was released. I had the one from HTC as that was my replacement to my G2 from Asurion. Have the say the HTC one was a piece of garbage. Worst phone i ever had, thank god it broke a week after i got it and i was forced to get the new myTouch. This device is everything that the G2 was but better. Sure the HTC cam was a really nice piece of hardware, but only the stock OS could run it and that just wasn't worth running.
I'm hoping to root this device tonight!
toquer said:
i just got the new myTouch last week when it was released. I had the one from HTC as that was my replacement to my G2 from Asurion. Have the say the HTC one was a piece of garbage. Worst phone i ever had, thank god it broke a week after i got it and i was forced to get the new myTouch. This device is everything that the G2 was but better. Sure the HTC cam was a really nice piece of hardware, but only the stock OS could run it and that just wasn't worth running.
I'm hoping to root this device tonight!
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Troll
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toquer said:
i just got the new myTouch last week when it was released. I had the one from HTC as that was my replacement to my G2 from Asurion. Have the say the HTC one was a piece of garbage. Worst phone i ever had, thank god it broke a week after i got it and i was forced to get the new myTouch. This device is everything that the G2 was but better. Sure the HTC cam was a really nice piece of hardware, but only the stock OS could run it and that just wasn't worth running.
I'm hoping to root this device tonight!
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You're outta your mind..HTC GLACIER is still among the best devices.
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toquer said:
i just got the new myTouch last week when it was released. I had the one from HTC as that was my replacement to my G2 from Asurion. Have the say the HTC one was a piece of garbage. Worst phone i ever had, thank god it broke a week after i got it and i was forced to get the new myTouch. This device is everything that the G2 was but better. Sure the HTC cam was a really nice piece of hardware, but only the stock OS could run it and that just wasn't worth running.
I'm hoping to root this device tonight!
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this guy doesn't know what he's talking about O_O
i've tried Huawei devices before...PoS...huawei better step up their game...HTC is better by so much...
toquer said:
i just got the new myTouch last week when it was released. I had the one from HTC as that was my replacement to my G2 from Asurion. Have the say the HTC one was a piece of garbage. Worst phone i ever had, thank god it broke a week after i got it and i was forced to get the new myTouch. This device is everything that the G2 was but better. Sure the HTC cam was a really nice piece of hardware, but only the stock OS could run it and that just wasn't worth running.
I'm hoping to root this device tonight!
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What drugs do you take, you need to share!
Bangincrazy said:
What drugs do you take, you need to share!
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Hahaha! For real!
Can you say troll trap?
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toquer said:
Huawei did step up their game with the solid piece of hardware. Have you used it yet? it's far superior the the myTouch4g slide from HTC. I'm not wrong on this. time will show that HTC dropped the ball on that device big time. It was a horrid replacement device for the G2. I'm not saying HTC is crap, i'm saying their version of the myTouch was...so in case i don't know what i'm talking about...i'm sure you're standing on the biggest little soapbox around.
peace.
btw...i smoke a lot of nice flowers!!!
and what was so great about the HTC myTouch4g if you think i'm wrong? The 3 roms for it were barely stable. Had to remove my battery more than ever. Stock rom was loaded with so much bloat that the phone was virtually useless. Even when they were removed, you still have to choose Maps every time you wanted to navigate someplace as it wanted to use TMo's subscription app.
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Seriously man... stop hating. We have enough going on here. We don't need anyone going on about how some phone was better than the slide or the glacier on the GLACIER forum. Whatever phone you have go to that one and talk about how superior it is.
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toquer said:
Huawei did step up their game with the solid piece of hardware. Have you used it yet? it's far superior the the myTouch4g slide from HTC. I'm not wrong on this. time will show that HTC dropped the ball on that device big time. It was a horrid replacement device for the G2. I'm not saying HTC is crap, i'm saying their version of the myTouch was...so in case i don't know what i'm talking about...i'm sure you're standing on the biggest little soapbox around.
peace.
btw...i smoke a lot of nice flowers!!!
and what was so great about the HTC myTouch4g if you think i'm wrong? The 3 roms for it were barely stable. Had to remove my battery more than ever. Stock rom was loaded with so much bloat that the phone was virtually useless. Even when they were removed, you still have to choose Maps every time you wanted to navigate someplace as it wanted to use TMo's subscription app.
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How sad we are thinking Huawei "stepped their game up". Its still got GB on it troll. The simple fact that Hawaii (or whatever the eff they are called, lol) is behind it automatically makes it a paper weight. Why dont you go "upgrade" to that and I'm sure in no time you'll be trolling here again because there wont be jack for dev. over there. Now kick rocks.
toquer said:
Huawei did step up their game with the solid piece of hardware. Have you used it yet? it's far superior the the myTouch4g slide from HTC. I'm not wrong on this. time will show that HTC dropped the ball on that device big time. It was a horrid replacement device for the G2. I'm not saying HTC is crap, i'm saying their version of the myTouch was...so in case i don't know what i'm talking about...i'm sure you're standing on the biggest little soapbox around.
peace.
btw...i smoke a lot of nice flowers!!!
and what was so great about the HTC myTouch4g if you think i'm wrong? The 3 roms for it were barely stable. Had to remove my battery more than ever. Stock rom was loaded with so much bloat that the phone was virtually useless. Even when they were removed, you still have to choose Maps every time you wanted to navigate someplace as it wanted to use TMo's subscription app.
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Do you have eyes and the ability to process images? Then have I got the challenge for you! Look at our dev section and look at all thoses roms and happy users, count them, if the rom count is under 3. I'll give you $400
THEindian said:
Do you have eyes and the ability to process images? Then have I got the challenge for you! Look at our dev section and look at all thoses roms and happy users, count them, if the rom count is under 3. I'll give you $400
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This genius is confusing the mytouch 4G Slide with the myTouch 4G. Not only is he wrong about that, he's posting in the wrong forum.
Two possibilities:
1) Moron.
2) Troll.
Either way, you fell for it. Arguing with either is a waste of time.
estallings15 said:
This genius is confusing the mytouch 4G Slide with the myTouch 4G. Not only is he wrong about that, he's posting in the wrong forum.
Two possibilities:
1) Moron.
2) Troll.
Either way, you fell for it. Arguing with either is a waste of time.
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I know he is trolling us, lol
my bad
you guys are right, i didn't confuse it, i've got the slide version. my fingers are way to big to use just a touch screen.
you kids need to calm down though, all this troll talk and stuff, is there a bridge that i have to cross? am i looking for a holy grail? geese...
can't even respond with what makes your phone so much better either...all just talk. keep talking kids.
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I know he is trolling us, lol
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