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Don't bother switching to the Sensation

Signed bootloader confirmed:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...d-bootloader-custom-rom-support-is-in-danger/

I didnt think anyone actually thought this WOULDN'T happen. I mean I totally expected it. Thats why I didn't even bother waiting.

They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?

Surely, but it might take some time. It took a while to go perm-root on the Thunderbolt. Might take longer on this.

smashpunks said:
They will find a way around it for sure... Won't they?
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Only if they can find the keys.

it'll get cracked, but have you seen the thunderbolt rooting process? not the simplest. i'm on a N1 but will make a move soon, probably to the g2x because its unlockable. i do love htc hardware though.

This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.

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Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.

Deng, I was about to wait for the Sensation too. I made the right choice buying the G2x. Can't wait for more development on this!

Well this is good news to me as it merely proves to me that I made the right choice. This phone is barely 3 weeks old and we already have 17 CM nightlies. Yea I'm good. Glad I didn't torture myself by trying to wait.

The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.

VisedMonk said:
The sensation will be another physically huge phone, too. it seems like that's all htc makes anymore - evo, inspire, thunderbolt, sensation - w/ the exception of the incredible. i had an evo for almost a year (launch day last june) and while it was a great phone, it always seemed just a little too big for me. the g2x is just the right size, imao.
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My thoughts exactly, just that much too big...I did like that Evo though. But this is a better one!

jlevy73 said:
Not necessarily. With the Thunderbolt the signed keys to unlock the bootloader fell on someone's lap. It was really mere luck. WIthout the signed keys it's impossible to unlock the bootloader. Perhaps the same key fairy will deliver the unlock code to the Sensation, but short of that, unlocking a signed bootloader is next to near impossible.
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Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.

VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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Damn, and I thought getting s-off on my g2 was a pain.

mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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Correct, it's not hardware locked which Moto did with eFuse. But anything not signed with the proper keys won't work. So in effect, it's just as bad as what Moto did, difference is that HTC is doing it at the software level.

mapin0518 said:
Exactly. They lucked out with the Thunderbolt. The Sensation could end up being like the the D2 and DX, where they have yet to be cracked. Presumably the Sensation will be a bit easier (not encrypted), but you never know.
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It is encrypted from what the article said.

VisedMonk said:
This gives you an idea of the thunderbolt root process: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996616
Certainly not for someone who doesn't know what the hell they are doing.
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lengthyyyyy sheesh... doesn't seem too difficult though.... The Inspire isn't a walk in the park either... HTC is locking their phones DOWN

Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!

JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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Does it really matter. Coming from the vibrant I like to mod. But I still like the sensation. Its just not quite what I want.
The dedicated games to the tegra. The vanilla android. The dual core for multi tasking. Modders dream. That is the g2x.
Not the sensation.
The only thing I miss is the toggle options being in the notification pull down. And it seems that will be a short lived problem.
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JWhipple said:
Why do people freak out so badly about this? Look at the G2 and the MyTouch4g - THEY WERE THE SAME WAY PEOPLE!
Geeze!
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I dunno. Not hard to follow directions, but I think that adb is intimidating to a lot of people. It was for me until I rolled my sleeves up and made myself use it.
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G2x update

Just went to the local store and was going to by a g2x for my wife out of stock while I was there, guess who a LG REP I probed her for questions did not answer me why no longer on sale, could not tell me but she did assured me that LG will. Be pushing an update VERY SOON.. what ever that means
P.s. she was not as hot as the LG girl
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Yep tmo pulled the device from being sold today because of the Mundo problems it has been having
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i still see the device on tmobile website... if you were smart enough you could find it

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i still see the device on tmobile website... if you were smart enough you could find it
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Funny guy right here., it's on the site yes but you can't order it. If you had hooked on phonics, and you would probably read the recent thread about the issue before posting
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i still see the device on tmobile website... if you were smart enough you could find it
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that was a bit un-necessary eh? you can see the "add to cart" button is greyed out. it's pretty much confirmed. The phone is no longer, for the moment at least, up for grabs on the t-mob site and I would guess in stores. just a guess tho

watch t-mo will probably say hey you can trade in your g2x for the new sensation. and watch everyone get pissed cause of the locked bootloaders and tmo will be laughing their asses off

gypsy214 said:
i still see the device on tmobile website... if you were smart enough you could find it
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Its better to keep your mouth closed and let everyone think you're a fool than to open and confirm it.

gypsy214 said:
i still see the device on tmobile website... if you were smart enough you could find it
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Dude, what were you thinking?? Talk about not being smart enough.......

dligon said:
watch t-mo will probably say hey you can trade in your g2x for the new sensation
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I seriously doubt this will happen

Suprah said:
Yep tmo pulled the device from being sold today because of the Mundo problems it has been having
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Do you think there will be 2 updates: one to fix the current issues and the other Gingerbread, or 1 update that combines the two? I hope it's both. Right now my phone is on it's way here. I will test to see if I have the same problems as others have.

dligon said:
watch t-mo will probably say hey you can trade in your g2x for the new sensation. and watch everyone get pissed cause of the locked bootloaders and tmo will be laughing their asses off
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I would love to live in your dream world.

Update is any day now...they pulled the remaining stock because of two reasons...
1. QC issues with the first few batches
2. The update will need to be applied OTA so it proly makes more sense to do that in house then sell the phones....
these are my OPINIONS, btw...I know I come across as like I know something, but I'm actually an idiot...do not listen to me

jrwingate6 said:
I would love to live in your dream world.
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**** that. I'd be seriously PISSED if T-Mobile made me get the downgrade that is the "Sensation" on an exchange!

EtherealRemnant said:
**** that. I'd be seriously PISSED if T-Mobile made me get the downgrade that is the "Sensation" on an exchange!
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I hear you. I want to keep the G2x. I hate HTC Sense. I don't want the Sensation or any other phone or I would of waited. They need to send out a major update ASAP to fix all the software issues. As far as screen bleed. Replacement with a new batch if LG fixes ?
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OhhCoreey said:
I hear you. I want to keep the G2x. I hate HTC Sense. I don't want the Sensation or any other phone or I would of waited. They need to send out a major update ASAP to fix all the software issues. As far as screen bleed. Replacement with a new batch if LG fixes ?
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Weirdly enough my backlight bleed resolved itself. It was pretty bad now its not there at all. I agree it needs to be fixed and I think they're just processing the boatload of returns they got on the device.
And the Sensation is a rather large downgrade from the G2x... The Snapdragon's graphics capability is less than half what the G2x pulls stock, let alone when overclocked. I'd leave T-Mobile if they tried to force a Sensation down my throat.

Me too lol I would not take a sensation at ALL!
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Me three.
I love this phone im keeping it.
I cant wait to read all the complaints about the sensation when it comes out.

EtherealRemnant said:
**** that. I'd be seriously PISSED if T-Mobile made me get the downgrade that is the "Sensation" on an exchange!
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Oh, I don't want the Sensation either. If I did, I would have already returned the G2X and used my Vibrant until then. I am sticking to what I said before and that is, I feel that the G2X is the better device that will hold me over until Tmo gets there SGSII variant. I have wanted that phone since I saw it.
I made my comment because I don't think T-Mobile would ever take our devices back, give us a different phone and discontinue the G2X completely. Thats a serious loss of revenue. No company in there right mind would do that. The most T-mobile will do is replace our phones with working ones from a new batch.

They can have my g2x.... when they pry it from my cold dead fingers. I ain't gonna update ****. My phone works perfectly. Even though I was a bit disapoonted with the can boasting 8mp and have suck ass features this phone rocks. I hope those who do have issues get some justice though.
"If Satan lived in heaven he'd be me.... "

Would anyone be able to link the post regarding the g2x being pulled? I'm just getting into the android world and the g2x is my first android device and I love it. I can't even find a example of the screen bleed everyone is talking about.
Guess I don't have the issue since I love my screen, but the constant radio bounce is annoying, so is the phone turning off in the middle of the night and not waking me when it's time to go to work. But that had only happen once.
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Dinc got gingerbread today.

http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-incredibles-gingerbread-update-pushing-out-now-weve-got-manual-install-instructions
i assume were next.

fixxxer2008 said:
http://www.androidcentral.com/droid-incredibles-gingerbread-update-pushing-out-now-weve-got-manual-install-instructions
i assume were next.
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The dInc also got Gingerbread 2 weeks ago, then the OTA was stopped due to some serious issues with it. Those dInc guys crack me up. It's just something about the whining about not getting Sense 3.0 with it and their insane belief that the dInc is best device ever constructed. I swear, if I read one more post where the writer says something like "Sadly, I got a dInc2 from Asurion as a warranty replacement instead of another AMOLED dInc" (like they got totally screwed in the deal!), I'm gonna find them and shove that phone up their piss hole.

I actually miss my dinc a lot. It's a great little phone. Great specs. Great dev support. Only thing keeping me from going back is 4G.
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the only reason i want our OTA is for a newer hopefully more stable radio.

Ianxcom said:
I actually miss my dinc a lot. It's a great little phone. Great specs. Great dev support. Only thing keeping me from going back is 4G.
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the Dinc is a nice phone but too small for me. the tbolt reminds me of my old evo4g, that's why i bought it. i think my next phone will be the htc vigor.

I thought you were leaving??? You stormed off yesterday.
You know what, I think you deserve a better device. Treat yourself to something nice.
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lrs421 said:
I thought you were leaving??? You stormed off yesterday.
You know what, I think you deserve a better device. Treat yourself to something nice.
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whats your problem man? is it really that hard for you to not troll? do you really think the likes of you would scare me off here?...that's laughable and apparently you do not know my rep on xda.

What killed the Dinc was that it didn't have enough memory to run sense. I have a Dinc & a TBolt and I have 270 mb free most of the time with the TBolt and only 70 -100 mb free on the Dinc. The Dinc has a stripped down sense rom and the TBolt rom has most everything.
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fixxxer2008 said:
whats your problem man? is it really that hard for you to not troll? do you really think the likes of you would scare me off here?...that's laughable and apparently you do not know my rep on xda.
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I dont have a problem, you're the one flooding the threads with non sense. All flames aside, why do you create SOOOO many meaningless threads. The other day you said you were bored, but please, spare the rest of us. I dont want to scare you off, really. But how many more of these threads are you going to create? You're the one who said you were done, not me.
Futhermore, this is nothing more than a disguised versus thread. We have a thunderbolt, why should we care about the Incredible ota. You seem like a decent guy but geesh.
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I didn't really understand why he created a thread about being bored and said anyone could talk about anything and then he got a little mad about something and started closing all of his threads in retaliation
Ohhhhh wellll :/
While we're on random discussions not about the Thunderbolt, the Moto Bionic comes out thursday. It looks kind of ugly shell wise and comes with moto blur :/. Nothing about whether it's locked down, but it probably is, since it was long in the works before google bought moto.

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I dont have a problem, you're the one flooding the threads with non sense. All flames aside, why do you create SOOOO many meaningless threads. The other day you said you were bored, but please, spare the rest of us. I dont want to scare you off, really. But how many more of these threads are you going to create? You're the one who said you were done, not me.
Futhermore, this is nothing more than a disguised versus thread. We have a thunderbolt, why should we care about the Incredible ota. You seem like a decent guy but geesh.
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ill post what i please, your not a mod. simple as that. i don't need you trolling every thread i make just to ask why i made it. why don't you try to contribute more here than just reading.

yareally said:
I didn't really understand why he created a thread about being bored and said anyone could talk about anything and then he got a little mad about something and started closing all of his threads in retaliation
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cause some people on here are dicks, thats why!

fixxxer2008 said:
ill post what i please, your not a mod. simple as that. i don't need you trolling every thread i make just to ask why i made it. why don't you try to contribute more here than just reading.
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Spoken like the true troll king
So does this mean you're not trading your thunderbolt or having sim card issues or really ticked? Considering you made threads about each of these in the past couple of days. But you're right about one thing, I should just ignore you.
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Best phone every tell that to me who went through 6 Inc all for reasons that had nothing to do with Rooting or dropping the phone. The phone over heated on a few of them and fried the board. Some phone would reboot and wipe my phone clean for no reason. I did get to keep the last phone which my daughter has as a video game phone so she would keep her hands off my TB, and surprising it been a great game system/netflix for her anyways. But I would have loved to get upgraded to the new phone as a replacement it only happened to me one time but I was like HELL YEA, and that was back when it was a flip phone but I got a 3.2 MP camera.

Can't we all just get along
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scottthreet32 said:
Can't we all just get along
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kinda hard when every thread i make gets trolled.

The incredible was a good phone but the Tbolt definately has advantages over it. I wouldn't trade my Tbolt back for the Incredible but it definately was a good phone.

Havoc70 said:
The incredible was a good phone but the Tbolt definately has advantages over it. I wouldn't trade my Tbolt back for the Incredible but it definately was a good phone.
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Don't say that over in the dInc forum. They'll hang you by your balls.

Wouldnt Think of it....LOL

fixxxer2008 said:
the only reason i want our OTA is for a newer hopefully more stable radio.
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The radio from the 2.11 leak is freakin great. I know with the TB it seems different phones respond to different radios but I have seen more positive posts about the one from the 2.11 leak then any other radio. I got 15 hours of heavy heavy usage the other day after flashing a new ROM and that radio before I even changed all my settings to help optimize battery life. Plus my 4G hasn't cut out on me at all like it did sometimes before.
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[Warning] OTA Rumor/RUU download

This is a prewarning for anyone still nieve enough to accept an ota before its been torn down and examined. The One X, brother device(EVO 4g LTE) recently received an ota that SIGNIFICANTLY improved security on the device. Changes included a new hboot(as seen in the new hox ruu leaked) along with other patches, any EVO that was not previously s OFF can no longer use the s OFF exploit, lazypanda. On top of that, EVO and hox were both able to flash radios and kernals with the unlocked bootloader. The EVO, s on with unlocked bootloader can NO LONGER flash radios or kernals. Recoveries only. I am posting this to make the community aware that this update WILL most likely implement the same security changes that were put on EVO LTE owners.
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals, and radios
Lose ability to use a s OFF exploit if it becomes available on the current(non updated) hboot.
Do thank the person bringing the ruu leak to xda for developers to examine and warning us of the soon to come ota. If it weren't for him, it would just show on our devices and a good percentage would accept, clogging our forums with help me threads. Check out the ruu leak thread to thank.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29049875
YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED
...........My EVO Ways..........
(You can S-Off for all I care)

Needs a sticky!

Good job bro!
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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.

iElvis said:
I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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18th.abn said:
If you accept the ota, you will likely:
Lose ability to flash kernals,
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I'm assuming you mean just through recovery. I'm sure you will still be able to flash the boot image(kernel) through fastboot. Just wanted to clarify this and not make everyone think you wouldn't be able to flash kernels at all.

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I'm sure this has nothing to do with all the clowns who bricked their phones and then played dumb and exchanged them.
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lemme guess.. those exchanges are why phones are getting more expensive too right?
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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SoberGuy said:
It's those same "clowns" who find ways for you to flash ROMs. Please have a little more respect.
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ChongoDroid said:
Haha.. those phones just get reflashed and sold as "refurbished" so knock it off OK.. seriously it's just annoying misinformation.
Phones get bricked sometimes.. the giant corporations will be fine.
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Not talking about devs, who contribute something to the overall environment (I would never refer to devs as "clowns"). I'm talking about the people who start fooling around with their phones without knowing what they're doing, brick them, then post things like "Will AT&T know what I did if I return this for a warranty replacement?"
And, whether the carriers can afford it (they can) isn't the point. It's that these folks motivate the carriers to make their phones ever more locked down in order to avoid having to deal with these bogus exchanges.

Wait, you got that wrong, reason we are getting more bricked phones is because the security on this device is NEW. Can't figure it out if you don't try, trying consists of trial and error. Well you know the sweetest of the story....
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For every guy that takes a risk and flashes something that might achieve s off, 10 people have returned their phone because the email doesn't work, or the screen is too yellow, or its too quiet.. or loud. Do you see what I'm sayin?
Normal people don't root.. they just complain. So HTC locking down the phone more isn't preventative measures for tech support or return rates... Its just HTC being sloppy. Next it'll be that source is being delayed because they don't want people to brick their phones lol
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Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards

nugzo said:
Thanks, good looking out. Some people will heed your warnings, others wont. I'm afraid this would be a little harder to overcome than the 1.85 fiasco when everyone updated before there was a root exploit. If HTC is playing with the security like this then that is a little scary to me. Damn i wish i had a little birdy at HTC. Maybe samsung is the future for rooted devices. Maybe google will open Motorola up. HTC is goin backwards
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Yeah, it's definitely a concern to me. I wish they would understand and just make it easy to do. The unlock site.could have an optional S-off to go with it. I would think it would be pretty easy for these guys to design a device to be very dev friendly, and also easy to recover if/when things go bad.
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xiambax said:
No problems guys. I got my S3 today so I haven't been testing the new RUU very much as I installed it sometime last night.
I'm torn on which phone I want to keep. Does someone really need two 700 Dollar phones?
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Yup I do. Please mail the one you won't use to me ^_^
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Post in the marketplace.
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As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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serious? ive seen xls go for 350 on the marketplace.

PurpleFries said:
As far as I've seen, one xl's are going for between 450 and 550.
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Lol yeah, brand new
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Jeez phones nowadays cost so dang much. Moor than my laptop or the new iPad lol
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Guys can we do anything about what HTC and at&t are doing to us?

okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.

Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.

Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.

XNine said:
Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.

karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...

Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!

lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.

blessedswine said:
Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.

This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.

SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.

vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?

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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.

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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?

gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?