Just wondering if we will ever see a one click root for the HTC EVO SHIFT 4G running 2.3.3 :/
I used to root using ADB, actually, my samsung intercept is still rooted....But I have no warranty on my evo, nor do I plan on buying one from sprint.. Really don't wanna go through this phone like I did with my intercepts messing them up
(pretty much just want to fix my 3g speeds and use downloaded apps and one theme...not looking to do a bunch of roms or kernals or eclair etc like I did with my intercept before I moved to froyo haha.)
Highly doubt it since we figured out how to downgrade and root that way but you never know. There might be a dev out there looking for an exploit
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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crump84 said:
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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From what i've read on it, it unlocks bootloader but it still has S-on but as always i could be wrong
I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
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strapped365 said:
Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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You realize that after you downgrade you can flash any Gingerbread or ICS ROM that you like. You can also update to the latest radio's. The only this that will stay downgraded is bootloader.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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LOL just like his name says.. IWillNotChange even in the views of downgrading all jokes my friend. But we do cause stock gingerbread roms that was only alter to have superuser rights.
IWillNotChange said:
Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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One Click Root at this point will probably never happen. The reason is we have a downgrade root and the source to ICS is out in the wild so what few devs we have seem to be more interested in getting ICS working on the Shift. So if you want a rooted shift your only choice at this time is to downgrade.
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Congrats go out to ozzeh and joshua_. Drop by and say hi at AndIRC (irc.andirc.net, chat.andirc.net).
http://www.zifnab06.net/2010/05/evo-root/
Enjoy!
Looks more like a positive and not a possible.
http://grack.com/blog/2010/05/23/root-on-an-htc-evo-4g/
I'll wait to congratulate when I can test it
If this is legit, consider my pants wet and my credit card ready to purchase an EVO Can't wait to load stock 2.2 onto it. Sayonara Sense!!!
**fingers crossed**
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If this is legit, consider my pants wet and my credit card ready to purchase an EVO Can't wait to load stock 2.2 onto it. Sayonara Sense!!!
**fingers crossed**
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For some reason I read that as Sayonara Sensei, gave me a bit of a giggle.
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For some reason I read that as Sayonara Sensei, gave me a bit of a giggle.
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Glad I could be of service
I have no reason to believe any of the 3 would lie, esp after talking to ozzeh and Joshua over the past few weeks.
Its legit and real.
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If this is legit, consider my pants wet and my credit card ready to purchase an EVO Can't wait to load stock 2.2 onto it. Sayonara Sense!!!
**fingers crossed**
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froyo is great
I'm just going to leave this here:
http://i50.tinypic.com/2h4xa34.jpg
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I'm just going to leave this here:
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work of art.
I'm working on a 2.2-specific game right now. My Android experience is on an Ion with an engineering SPL. After reading a bit about how root has gone for newer-model HTC phones, I was saddened by the prospect of having FroYo sitting in AOSP for the taking, but having my phone refuse to take any non-Sprint-blessed medicine awaiting root.
Like the rest of you, I'm hopeful that this method is easy, stable, safe, and successful. I'm also hopeful that the WiMAX support in FroYo is compatible with this phone.
Great work guys!
Any ideas when you guys will be releasing the exploit? I am dying to delete some of these apps and have access to root programs!
i'd say that we probably shouldn't expect to find the methods for root until at least the evo comes out... maybe a few weeks after so HTC can't patch it immediately.
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i'd say that we probably shouldn't expect to find the methods for root until at least the evo comes out... maybe a few weeks after so HTC can't patch it immediately.
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I highly doubt they'd stop the release of the device (with the hype that they have going for this phone) to fix an exploit, then go back into testing. Knowing Sprint / HTC that would prevent them from getting it out on the 4th.
In all reality the amount of people that buy this phone, less than 5% will root it. Some could argue that % is high even. With all the people I've met with Hero's... only one person has it rooted. He's a computer nerd like myself, and he doesn't even flash nearly as often as I do... maybe once every few months...
ill now its true when its on my phone and i have all the sprint bloat gone
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Roaming Lol
Awesome work guys!
I wonder if they have system write access too or if this is a limited root like the Desire and Legend.
This is quite amazing, a week and a half before launch and already there's a method for root. Hopefully the guys behind it can give out the instructions on June 4th.
Its a shame really..but with all the shenanigans its hard to just say great job. I am grateful if this is indeed true as I have already pre ordered mine and would love root on it.
Its almost as if your not doubting that they gained root, but more that you question yourself if what they say is true lol...make any sense?
If this is true, great work.
Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
I read the same thing. I was thinking about grabbing the evo 3d when that comes out. But I'm after reading that article, I'm almost certain that evo 3d will have a encrypted bootloader.
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Doesn't mean it can't be re-rommed.
The galaxy tab I'm currently using had signed bootloaders, they aren't a problem anymore.
The devs here will figure a way around it.
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Wow, hopefully they don't turn into Motorola when it comes to that.
More glad than ever I stuck to my guns and got my Android then.
No Root or Custom Roms means no go for me to pull the trigger.
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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encrypted bootloader<Awesome hackers/dev's
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Not trying to argue, just curious...
If this is the case, why is the Atrix getting so much crap for having a locked bootloader? And if I remember, designgears (who, from what I gather, is a pretty respected dev in the community), gave up on trying to crack it. Why would trying to crack an encrypted HTC bootloader be any easier?
I know nothing about encrypted bootloaders, so really I'm just asking this question for informational purposes.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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Well the way I see it since more phones are moving to encrypted bootloaders, like the new htc's and the moto blurs more hackers/devs are going to be forced to learn how to crack it. I wouldn't say it is impossible as much as I would say it is just a matter of time.
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This makes sense. More devs focused on the issue will bring about more advancement.
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
magnumforce2006 said:
I thought the Atrix was rooted?
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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it is rooted , but u CANNOT install custom roms on it, cyanmod, stock android etc
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oooooh I see
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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Not entirely true. The dx still cannot get custom kernels which means no non-stock based tons (cyangoen/miui)
ZXMustang said:
Motorola tried this with the Droid X, and it failed miserably. The devs found a way around it in like two weeks. The encrypted boot loader was supposed to be the end of modding the droidx, but that lasted a few days. No worries, the devs can get a work around.
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errrr , the droidx booloader has NOT been crack, they only have half baked roms , they have 2.3 roms because a 2.3 rom leaked from motorola, otherwise they'd still be stuck on 2.2
I guess that just means that the Android devs that work for HTC and MOTO are a tad smarter then the ones that work for apple.
Shame that they are putting that knowledge into locking the phones down though.
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There's a diff between locked and encrypted/locked. The htc inspire has a basically locked boot loader but isn't encrypted. There's also a diff between rooting and flashing custom roms. Even the atrix is rooted, but the bootloader is locked down thus no custom roms.
The news media doesn't seem to understand the terminology. I still don't know for sure if the thunderbolt bootloader is actually encrypted or just locked and won't until I hear from a dev who knows what he's talking about.
Then if it is, there's the question of how it is encrypted. A shame either way. We can thank the crotchety carriers like at&t for pressuring this.
p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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See what I said earlier in action buahahaha. No really that's freakin awesome.
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p0wned:
http://bit.ly/fWkq5g
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can someone confirm this? havent heard about this anywhere else
Chad_Petree said:
Ive seen in a couple of sites that the thunderbolt has an ecnrypted bootloader, now the incredible s has it too, did the desire hd/inspire 4g had this also? i was thinking of getting the htc pyramid, but this is turning me off A LOT
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/24/htc-locks-down-incredible-s-against-custom-roms-too-starts-a-fi/
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No I rooted the inspire in ten minutes. Playstation 3 was encrypted and look at the turnout of it now.
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Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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Who needs an update I have side loading.
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
Yeah but come on so many benefits to rooting why not you know??
True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
I totally would but, its kinda tough to do that with a mac
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Think we will get an update for it? Maybe the upcoming gingerbread upgrade will have it
http://www.smartphoneenvy.com/andro...-allow-non-market-apps-on-android/#more-14514
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I hope we do I have not rooted yet seems to complicated all these roms folks seem to have do a lot to get them to work right
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
Wouldn't be a problem if say the rooting process was like the hero or evo hell even my former samsung epic. No data loss
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Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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tweaked said:
Well then good luck with that. Personally anyone who buys a phone that's missing a feature , especially one that's mostly used for nefarious purposes really should learn to read before buying. Then again one would think; all it takes to have root is said reading and therein lies the cusp.
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This means don't buy any AT&T branded device. Hopefully sideloading happens with the Inspire. With hsupa now enabled and with this, I would lose more reason to root. Although getting rid of the bloat would be nice. I just wish we could root stock without having to downgrade.
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If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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True but in my case I have not rooted because of the process. I do not want to redo all my settings and data and such....I am sure I am not the only one
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try using titanium back up, that helps out alot, if u really don't wanna waste the 15min it takes to reset up ur phone, or just root it b4 setting it up, right after you buy it. sure, some rom updates will require a full wipe but its always for the better, there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
epicKA8 said:
there's just too many benefits to rooting not to want to do it. removing bloatware, ability to sideload, tethering, being able to run any of the many roms out there and the list goes on and on and on.
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+1. If you're on AT&T, and have an Android phone, you are going to be missing out on all your phone could be. Even if you hack the living daylights out of a stock ROM, it won't compare to any ROM floating around here. It's not nearly as hard/bad as people think.
CM7 Inspire 4G
Gingerbreak worked for you?
calin75 said:
If your phone is Stock rooted, you can always edit the settings.db file and enable side loading feature. I did it and works like a charm. I didn't want to take a chance with a custom ROM, so I updated the stock ROM with the latest HTC update and the rooted it with gingerbreak. So far so good.
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We here at XDA are a minority among Android users. And not everyone wants root.
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I have side loading without root. In fact, my Inspire is totally stock. And I've been able to side load apps from the beginning. That's one reason I don't understand this AT&T side loading business.
With sideload wonder machine?
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With sideload wonder machine?
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
Yea I currently use that
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yea, you can sideload manually from the computer with out root, you just can't sideload directly from your devise. just make sure you have the latest drivers from HTC
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I sideload right on my Inspire. I have the apks on my card and choose them with any file explorer and install them. I can even install apps that require root to function. Those particular apps will install, but they won't work without root. But all apps that don't require root to function install and work just fine.
It figures... right after rooting. I like root though. I'm a control freak and I like to determine what is on my phone. Deleted all of ATTs bloarware and just darn well like playing with ROMS. I was a Linux distro sampler too for a while before settling on Fedora.
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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first off wrong section , secondly ... you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
Just wait for the ota. Most roms come with superuser
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I'm afraid I'm gonna brick it
I still have 7 months till my next upgrade
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Not much experience with rooting
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elias0441 said:
Not much experience with rooting
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167819
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FL0OD said:
Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
@elias, the only option you have if you want ICS and don't want to root is to wait for the official OTA which should be rolling out soon. Once you have ICS from the OTA you won't be able to roll back to GB without rooting (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one)
True
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
vhgomez36 said:
Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
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Yup you can Odin whatever vhgomez shares with you
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
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If you can follow simple, well written instructions you can reap the many benefits of a rooted phone. Btw... you know this is not even close to develeopement, why would you post a question here?
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FL0OD said:
Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
°•neXus S4G•°
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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zeeraf said:
you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
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Also, the guides are written very well, so bricking should not be a concern.
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/snip. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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oh snap!
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours. There is no way that 99% of people with a Nexus S have it for hacking. I have yet to meet one the wild that has been used that way.
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
Don't forget, some people got them because best buy was giving them away for free.
Not me, although I did get mine for free, I got mine for "fastboot OEM unlock".
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
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As others have said, this was the wrong section for this, but I will not harp on that.
I also want to apologize for a very poor showing from our community. Sometimes this forum is an embarrassment, especially in juxtaposition to other Linux communities. There are a good deal of very arrogant people here, who just cant seem to help jumping all over the new guy. Im surprised no one called you a noob.
With all of that said, I want to agree with your posting above. Speaking as a system admin for a mid-sized company, your reasoning for owning this phone is the exact reason why it has been handed out to every employee here.
Now on to your question. Because of the age of our phone, the development community behind it is very mature. Not the users, but the tools. It is very hard to brick your phone, in fact you might say you would have to go out of your way to truly brick the device. You might get a soft brick, but even that is hard to do and is still easily fixed via ODIN.
As others have said, there are very easy to follow instructions on unlocking and rooting this device. These are not really hacks, as this phone was meant to have these things done to it. I do understand the hesitation, though after the first time you go though doing it, you will wonder what you were so scared of in the first place. You can always give this thread a try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250583&highlight=one+click+root
to make things easy on yourself. After you get it rooted, familiarize yourself with making a NAND backup in the custom recovery first thing. This is basically an image backup of your device allowing you to jump back to safety should you do something wrong during a custom rom install.
Here is the way I look at it. If you have your phone rooted with a custom rom and it breaks and you need to return it for some reason, then ODIN will flash you back to stock and you'll have no worries about returning it to Sprint. If you some how destroy your phone to the point where not even ODIN will have access to fix it(AKA your phone goes swimming), then Sprint will not have access to the device either and will have no clue you rooted it. What some of these knuckleheads are poorly trying to get across to you, is that the phone you own, wants to be rooted.
Good luck and welcome to the community.
I've been looking around the internet and I see no progress on s-off. It looks like the one x is close but why is no one willing to work on s-off for our one s. I've heard talk of piggybacking off the one x s-off solution but that is getting us no where. If I had the ability and know how that's what I'd be doing so can't one of our few dev's stop making ROMs and make some real progress on this. I have a lot of respect for our developers don't get me wrong but why not work on something that'll make a big change. That's the way I see it and I figured maybe by sharing my thoughts and people getting on board we can get something done on this phone. I'm tired of having to flash boot.img's in fastboot and I'm sure others with higher hboots are sick of it too. Its a big inconvenience for people who are not always home and downloaded the latest ROM over WiFi. Doesn't s-off make it easier for the devs so why not?
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tylerjholmgren said:
I've been looking around the internet and I see no progress on s-off. It looks like the one x is close but why is no one willing to work on s-off for our one s. I've heard talk of piggybacking off the one x s-off solution but that is getting us no where. If I had the ability and know how that's what I'd be doing so can't one of our few dev's stop making ROMs and make some real progress on this. You can constantly update ROMs and never be done so why doesn't somebody just finish something for once and get us s-off. I have a lot of respect for our developers don't get me wrong but why not work on something that'll make a difference instead of continually adding changes to your ROMs from cm. That's the way I see it and I figured maybe by sharing my thoughts and people getting on board we can get something done on this phone. I'm sick of having to flash boot.img's in fastboot and I'm sure others with higher hboots are sick of it too its a big inconvenience for people who are not always home and downloaded the latest ROM over WiFi.
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Wow, show some respect to the developers. They are not you lackies, and just because they make roms doesn't mean they can magically create S-Off. Oh, and just because they don't publish a progress report doesn't mean that there are not devs working on it.
I'm sorry I went too far there And I deserved it but a progress update would be nice don't you wanna know where were at?
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Vain III said:
Wow, show some respect to the developers. They are not you lackies, and just because they make roms doesn't mean they can magically create S-Off. Oh, and just because they don't publish a progress report doesn't mean that there are not devs working on it.
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You should have seen how feisty people got in the Amaze forums a while back hahaha.
We're never going to get s-off. Not enough developers. It's hard work. Don't complain, at least we HAVE developers working for our device.
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We're never going to get s-off. Not enough developers. It's hard work. Don't complain, at least we HAVE developers working for our device.
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What I was saying was if some of our dev's took time off making ROMs they might be able to get us s-off. Go look at one x forums and it'll make you a little mad....
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You should have seen how feisty people got in the Amaze forums a while back hahaha.
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That forum was crazy...
And there's a HUGE difference between a rom developer and someone who could actually get S-off on a device. Not many people can do it.
Technically, ROM makers are considered "chefs" and being a developer is actually more work isn't it?
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We're never going to get s-off. Not enough developers. It's hard work. Don't complain, at least we HAVE developers working for our device.
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There were even less developers on the Amaze yet they achieved it.. took a while, but it happened. I remember checking the bounty thread like everyday lol. Same exact thing for the mytouch 3g slide, there were even less than the amaze back in the day. they achieved it too though
This kind of talk is so depressing for people like me who were on the fence about getting this device lol. When I had the offer to get the HTC One S I first looked in these forums and seen a lot going on, so I thought it was well supported but it wasn't til after i got it that I dug a little deeper to find out things like this. And now here I am stuck with the higher hboot. Very depressing but hey, it's still one of the best phones out. It just seems it is gonna turn into an EOL device. Pretty soon everyone we'll say to hell with it and go to a nexus only attitude!
stratax said:
You should have seen how feisty people got in the Amaze forums a while back hahaha.
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LOL RIGHT!
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There were even less developers on the Amaze yet they achieved it.. took a while, but it happened. I remember checking the bounty thread like everyday lol. Same exact thing for the mytouch 3g slide, there were even less than the amaze back in the day. they achieved it too though
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True, even though by the time they got S-off I sold my Amaze for the One S. I feel like their was more motivation for S-off in the Amaze their was more talk. We don't even have a sticky discussion thread like the Amaze did.
Don't complain and be happy that we are at least able to flash boot.img. Look at AT&T One X forums. They are not even able to unlock their bootloaders with the latest hboot.
tylerjholmgren said:
I've been looking around the internet and I see no progress on s-off. It looks like the one x is close but why is no one willing to work on s-off for our one s. I've heard talk of piggybacking off the one x s-off solution but that is getting us no where. If I had the ability and know how that's what I'd be doing so can't one of our few dev's stop making ROMs and make some real progress on this. I have a lot of respect for our developers don't get me wrong but why not work on something that'll make a big change. That's the way I see it and I figured maybe by sharing my thoughts and people getting on board we can get something done on this phone. I'm tired of having to flash boot.img's in fastboot and I'm sure others with higher hboots are sick of it too. Its a big inconvenience for people who are not always home and downloaded the latest ROM over WiFi. Doesn't s-off make it easier for the devs so why not?
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If you don't understand the difference between a Rom developer and a team of people that can break the security created by large multi-national corporations maybe you don't have a right to complain?
Besides the majority of the need to do it has already been removed. The only real reason that you would want to do it now is to not unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and we already know the method to avoid that anyways.
Just a run down on what we CAN do with s-on
Root
Unlock Bootloader
Change Radios
Change Kernels
Super cid
And most phones can SIM unlock also
What exactly are you hoping S-off will achieve?
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LOL RIGHT!
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True, even though by the time they got S-off I sold my Amaze for the One S. I feel like their was more motivation for S-off in the Amaze their was more talk. We don't even have a sticky discussion thread like the Amaze did.
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I stayed a while after they achieved S-OFF, then I sold the phone for a nokia n9 and then traded that for the iphone 4 then traded that for this phone hahah
yeah, they sure did have motivation, I guess people are getting sick and tired of achieving something that we shouldn't have to achieve. almost every other manufacture allows their bootloader to be unlocked, etc. HTC is going to have to make more changes if they want to succeed in this market.
edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Z2cOGHC8Q&feature=g-all-u @2:20 my point
dc211 said:
If you don't understand the difference between a Rom developer and a team of people that can break the security created by large multi-national corporations maybe you don't have a right to complain?
Besides the majority of the need to do it has already been removed. The only real reason that you would want to do it now is to not unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and we already know the method to avoid that anyways.
Just a run down on what we CAN do with s-on
Root
Unlock Bootloader
Change Radios
Change Kernels
Super cid
And most phones can SIM unlock also
What exactly are you hoping S-off will achieve?
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Yeah but the time it took to get to this point distracts dev's from even considering purchasing this phone. DOA
dc211 said:
Besides the majority of the need to do it has already been removed.
Just a run down on what we CAN do with s-on
Root
Unlock Bootloader
Change Radios
Change Kernels
Super cid
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..Change recoveries.
We do have a big difference between the 'old' and 'new' hboots, tho.
The older ones can flash pretty much anything from normal recovery. The newer hboots are way more restricted. Even if we can't get permanent s-off, it would be very nice if we got the means to downgrade hboot to 1.06 or 1.09.
-Jobo
tylerjholmgren said:
I've been looking around the internet and I see no progress on s-off. It looks like the one x is close but why is no one willing to work on s-off for our one s. I've heard talk of piggybacking off the one x s-off solution but that is getting us no where. If I had the ability and know how that's what I'd be doing so can't one of our few dev's stop making ROMs and make some real progress on this. I have a lot of respect for our developers don't get me wrong but why not work on something that'll make a big change. That's the way I see it and I figured maybe by sharing my thoughts and people getting on board we can get something done on this phone. I'm tired of having to flash boot.img's in fastboot and I'm sure others with higher hboots are sick of it too. Its a big inconvenience for people who are not always home and downloaded the latest ROM over WiFi. Doesn't s-off make it easier for the devs so why not?
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Great idea! Let us know when you get us s - off...
One, as previously stated that is a serious pain especially when there's no good place to start. It's completely different than making roms. Next I had the amaze long after they achieved s-off which people threw hundreds of dollars and hours into... Guess how much changed because of it? Nothing really changed. And so here you are asking devs who already take tons of their free time to do this for free. And you're asking them to go out of their way to do more so you can save 60 seconds when you are flashing a rom. This sounds incredibly lazy and selfish. It's not that hard to go to fastboot and flash a kernel. If you want s-off you should have at least made a better argument than that you're lazy...
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lorddart said:
Great idea! Let us know when you get us s - off...
One, as previously stated that is a serious pain especially when there's no good place to start. It's completely different than making roms. Next I had the amaze long after they achieved s-off which people threw hundreds of dollars and hours into... Guess how much changed because of it? Nothing really changed. And so here you are asking devs who already take tons of their free time to do this for free. And you're asking them to go out of their way to do more so you can save 60 seconds when you are flashing a rom. This sounds incredibly lazy and selfish. It's not that hard to go to fastboot and flash a kernel. If you want s-off you should have at least made a better argument than that you're lazy...
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Its not the fact that I'm lazy its the fact that I'm never really home to be able to access my computer I work almost full time and go to college full time maybe you shouldn't call someone lazy before you know the real story it makes you look bad if I had more time to get on a computer I wouldn't have made the argument in the first place. I'm not here to start arguments I'm here to get something to change and if all your going to do is jump my **** then go somewhere else.
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tylerjholmgren said:
Its not the fact that I'm lazy its the fact that I'm never really home to be able to access my computer I work almost full time and go to college full time maybe you shouldn't call someone lazy before you know the real story it makes you look bad if I had more time to get on a computer I wouldn't have made the argument in the first place. I'm not here to start arguments I'm here to get something to change and if all your going to do is jump my **** then go somewhere else.
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I too am in this thread to get something to change. I want people who work almost full time and go to college full time to stop what they are currently working on and start working on S-OFF. Seems like a dumb request huh? That's what you're asking the dev to do......
tylerjholmgren said:
Its not the fact that I'm lazy its the fact that I'm never really home to be able to access my computer I work almost full time and go to college full time maybe you shouldn't call someone lazy before you know the real story it makes you look bad if I had more time to get on a computer I wouldn't have made the argument in the first place. I'm not here to start arguments I'm here to get something to change and if all your going to do is jump my **** then go somewhere else.
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I get ya, but it really came across as, it's a pain to boot to fastboot to flash a kernel. Which sounds incredibly lazy. Because it doesn't take long at all. I probably came across harsh I get that. But at least if you're asking devs to do something for you at least offer something, some help, suggestions, time, donations, something. I don't think it's good practice to come in asking devs who are busy and already do all this without asking anything in return to cater to just your needs. When you are not offering anything in return and even donations are to show appreciation. Most devs do have a life and as stated above me, are busy as hell too. So remember before asking this that you wouldn't have anything to complain about if the devs weren't already sacrificing their time, because you'd have no roms to flash to even be concerned with changing kernels.
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