I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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first off wrong section , secondly ... you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
Just wait for the ota. Most roms come with superuser
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I'm afraid I'm gonna brick it
I still have 7 months till my next upgrade
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Not much experience with rooting
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Not much experience with rooting
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1167819
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Take this to General. btw why would you buy a nexus if you weren't going to root it?
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
@elias, the only option you have if you want ICS and don't want to root is to wait for the official OTA which should be rolling out soon. Once you have ICS from the OTA you won't be able to roll back to GB without rooting (someone correct me if I'm wrong on this one)
True
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elias0441 said:
I wanna put Ics on my phone but I don't wanna root it, what the best rom available for no root?
Also i'm waiting for the ota version so I need to know how can I go back to gingerbread when the ota comes out?
Thank you
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Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
vhgomez36 said:
Use ODINE. PM your email and I'll get you the file you need, but remember it's your responsibility..
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Yup you can Odin whatever vhgomez shares with you
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Because it is stock android, which means no BS and for most people that is enough.
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
°•neXus S4G•°
If you can follow simple, well written instructions you can reap the many benefits of a rooted phone. Btw... you know this is not even close to develeopement, why would you post a question here?
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Thanks for clearing that up:thumbup:
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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Sure, I guess spending too much time on these forms makes some people complacent and forget that not everyone is a power user.
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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zeeraf said:
you cant flash any rom without rooting ur phone so if u want ics without root ur gonna have to wait for an official release
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Also, the guides are written very well, so bricking should not be a concern.
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/snip. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours.
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oh snap!
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I think that has very little to do with being a power user. NeXus phones have always been developer based phones made to mod, root, and hack. People that buy these phones, for the most part, buy them because of that and not because they want a vanilla android experience. Of course there are roms out that can get you close to that but I would venture to guess that if you took a pole of neXus users 99% of them want a custom experience, not a vanilla one. So for me to ask why someone would buy a Nexus and not root it is probably a question that a lot of people would be interested in. And nice side ways attempt at a jab with the comment about people spending to much time here. People that are here enjoy their time here. Enjoy learning. Enjoy modding, rooting, hacking. But I don't expect some one with a stock development phone to understand that. You have your hobbies we have ours. There is no way that 99% of people with a Nexus S have it for hacking. I have yet to meet one the wild that has been used that way.
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
Don't forget, some people got them because best buy was giving them away for free.
Not me, although I did get mine for free, I got mine for "fastboot OEM unlock".
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That is definitely why some people choose a Nexus devices, but there is also a large amount of people who choose them for "quick" updates and a stock experience. It is the only way to achieve those things. Some people probably also choose the Nexus S because it is a really nice, smaller handset with an awesome screen.
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As others have said, this was the wrong section for this, but I will not harp on that.
I also want to apologize for a very poor showing from our community. Sometimes this forum is an embarrassment, especially in juxtaposition to other Linux communities. There are a good deal of very arrogant people here, who just cant seem to help jumping all over the new guy. Im surprised no one called you a noob.
With all of that said, I want to agree with your posting above. Speaking as a system admin for a mid-sized company, your reasoning for owning this phone is the exact reason why it has been handed out to every employee here.
Now on to your question. Because of the age of our phone, the development community behind it is very mature. Not the users, but the tools. It is very hard to brick your phone, in fact you might say you would have to go out of your way to truly brick the device. You might get a soft brick, but even that is hard to do and is still easily fixed via ODIN.
As others have said, there are very easy to follow instructions on unlocking and rooting this device. These are not really hacks, as this phone was meant to have these things done to it. I do understand the hesitation, though after the first time you go though doing it, you will wonder what you were so scared of in the first place. You can always give this thread a try, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250583&highlight=one+click+root
to make things easy on yourself. After you get it rooted, familiarize yourself with making a NAND backup in the custom recovery first thing. This is basically an image backup of your device allowing you to jump back to safety should you do something wrong during a custom rom install.
Here is the way I look at it. If you have your phone rooted with a custom rom and it breaks and you need to return it for some reason, then ODIN will flash you back to stock and you'll have no worries about returning it to Sprint. If you some how destroy your phone to the point where not even ODIN will have access to fix it(AKA your phone goes swimming), then Sprint will not have access to the device either and will have no clue you rooted it. What some of these knuckleheads are poorly trying to get across to you, is that the phone you own, wants to be rooted.
Good luck and welcome to the community.
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My wife works for US Cellular and is having a complete fit about me updating my phone and rooting it !!!! She is afraid of it being bricked or having some issue with it down the road that i would have to send it out and it having to be worked on and DATA TECH seeing that it has done.. has there been any issues with the froyo update bricking phones i've looked and looked and not seen that it has.. also rolling it back to stock hasnt had and issues either has it ...
None that I know about. Besides you can always do an odin restore to 2.1 and it will be like it just came out of the box.
Igotno said:
My wife works for US Cellular and is having a complete fit about me updating my phone and rooting it !!!! She is afraid of it being bricked or having some issue with it down the road that i would have to send it out and it having to be worked on and DATA TECH seeing that it has done.. has there been any issues with the froyo update bricking phones i've looked and looked and not seen that it has.. also rolling it back to stock hasnt had and issues either has it ...
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I work for US Cellular. This phone is my work phone, and I develop on it. I'm 99.9% positive that you cannot brick these phones by rooting and updating them, or flashing anything to them for that matter. As long as you follow directions you should be fine. When using Odin, don't flash anything to the Phone portion. Only flash to the Pit and PDA portions. Also, never flash anything that isn't for the Mesmerize. I don't care that other people have not had problems with it, It's not worth the risk to the average person. Also, read everything that you can and ask questions.
Come hang out in the irc room with us if you need anything.
Thank you...so far froyo is working well haven't rooted yet.. What are the benifits to rooting?
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Igotno said:
Thank you...so far froyo is working well haven't rooted yet.. What are the benifits to rooting?
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Rooting allows you the ability to get to the root directory, run apps that you couldn't run before, and other features that you normally would have. It's a hand thing to do.
Rooting shouldn't brick your phone.
iDroidFan said:
Rooting shouldn't brick your phone.
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If you have time, we could use some more devs here. You seem to have a pretty good grasp on things.
Once again thank you for all the info and input..
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Igotno said:
Once again thank you for all the info and input..
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That's why we're here. Well... that and the funny comments from the peanut gallery.
Well I've got one more question will rooting get rid of the ads and boating? As I read and read some more I think I get more confused.gotta take a step bak and just ask....
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Igotno said:
Well I've got one more question will rooting get rid of the ads and boating? As I read and read some more I think I get more confused.gotta take a step bak and just ask....
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Yes after rooting you can download from the market adfree that will remove most ads. The what I like to use is titanium backup to remove or freeze the bloatware. By freezing it is removes it from the app drawer. But is still on the phone encase you need it later say for warrenty. But now with the Odin files for our phones you can delete the bloat and do a resort in you must warrenty it.
-Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
phidelt82 said:
Well... that and the funny comments from the peanut gallery.
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See peanut gallery comment below. =)
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
built2rail said:
See peanut gallery comment below. =)
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
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You know you can setup a signature in your profile so you don't have to type yours every time.
It is. The xda app is awesome.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
built2rail said:
It is. The xda app is awesome.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
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You just need to add a line so that it doesn't look like i'ts part of a post (It must not do this automatically using the app, it does using the web)
Yes I know.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
I work for US Cellular and I use my work phone for rooting,development, and h4xing. I once messed up a flash when it first came out(no odin yet) and sent it into samsung directly and they reflashed it for me.
built2rail said:
Yes I know.
Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
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See I saw one with:
"- Just ... ..."
and one with no dash:
"Just ... ..."
So I assumed you were typing it different every time. Then I realized you were probably using the xda app since it said "Sent from my .. ..." haha
I started adding the - so people would know it was my sig. Now the new version of it.
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Just when you think you have it idiot proof, they come out with a better idiot.
Like the sig. I'm gonna do that with mine.
Adfree is awesome,
And another really good way to get rid of bloat is to use the pick'n'pack roms. All the instructions are on the post in the android dev section.
And rooting/ flashing shouldn't be frowned upon by a lot of people at us cell / samsung- a lot of those are people that have a passion for phones and do the same thing
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Just wondering if we will ever see a one click root for the HTC EVO SHIFT 4G running 2.3.3 :/
I used to root using ADB, actually, my samsung intercept is still rooted....But I have no warranty on my evo, nor do I plan on buying one from sprint.. Really don't wanna go through this phone like I did with my intercepts messing them up
(pretty much just want to fix my 3g speeds and use downloaded apps and one theme...not looking to do a bunch of roms or kernals or eclair etc like I did with my intercept before I moved to froyo haha.)
Highly doubt it since we figured out how to downgrade and root that way but you never know. There might be a dev out there looking for an exploit
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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crump84 said:
You could look into this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1343114 I've never used it but the Shift is listed as a supported device.
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From what i've read on it, it unlocks bootloader but it still has S-on but as always i could be wrong
I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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I saw that thread and mailed him a few days ago, but he doesn't really help respond...
A few things it doesn't do right...[it giving me error's]
[Not interested in downgrading and going through all that]
I'd rather just pull out the intercept if I needed it that bad...would just really be nice and make the phone work better..
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Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
Sent from a MikRunny Inspire,cause I had to trade that pos thrill!
strapped365 said:
Trust us all when we say the downgrade is nothing, indirect put out a script that gets you all the way to the downgrade process which is just an ruu, then you perm root that, hell send me your shift I'd do it
Sent from a MikRunny Inspire,cause I had to trade that pos thrill!
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I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
IWillNotChange said:
I have no intent to downgrade though
Like I said, I'd rather just get out the intercept then downgrade...It'd just be nice >.>
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You realize that after you downgrade you can flash any Gingerbread or ICS ROM that you like. You can also update to the latest radio's. The only this that will stay downgraded is bootloader.
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Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
IWillNotChange said:
Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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LOL just like his name says.. IWillNotChange even in the views of downgrading all jokes my friend. But we do cause stock gingerbread roms that was only alter to have superuser rights.
IWillNotChange said:
Yeah haaha, Look guys >.< I just want to know if anyone plans on trying to find a one click root for 2.3.3, I have no interest in downgrading lol I will be getting a new phone in 25 days and it will be under warranty and I can do what ever I please to that one, but I just like the simplicity of one click roots, and not having to fight with each phone being slightly different on how its going to react.
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One Click Root at this point will probably never happen. The reason is we have a downgrade root and the source to ICS is out in the wild so what few devs we have seem to be more interested in getting ICS working on the Shift. So if you want a rooted shift your only choice at this time is to downgrade.
Shoudl I root??? I want to but I'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day I got this phone I've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my One S and have had no issues, but now I want to move to T-Mobiles unlimited plan but I still want tethering and from what I understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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shoudl i root??? I want to but i'm not to sure if its the right decision. Since the day i got this phone i've seen thread after thread of problems only seen after rooting. I've gone about 4 months without doing anything to my one s and have had no issues, but now i want to move to t-mobiles unlimited plan but i still want tethering and from what i understand, that's the only way to keep it. I've been looking for some sort of deciding factor in it all but can't find one. Please help me decide?
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whoa guys, not all at once!!!
No.
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Absolutely not.
bhags8 said:
No.
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Even if that wasn't sincere, thanks for saying something haha
bhags8 said:
No.
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Absolutely not.
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Ok ok I'm gathering that I should NOT root but what is the reason behind the answer?
Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Rooting is easy, but takes some research and knowledge. If you can't even learn why you should root yourself, you probably aren't ready to do it either.
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Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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antny said:
Don't get me wrong I know the ease of rooting thanks to the wonderful members of xda. I've rooted my previous phones and reaped the benefits but with this phone I've seen more problems than anything throughout the forums. I know I know, everyone runs into issues sometimes but I'm not sure if rooting this phone runs more of a risk
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Rooting and running CM made this phone faster, more reliable, easier to use and customize and better looking. Only loss is the camera.
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Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
You say rooting has issues? I am rooted and have no issues at all.
The only risk you partake is that you may void your warranty for unlocking the bootloader.
Rooting is nothing but super user. It could set there and do nothing just like unrooted.
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Doughh said:
Wait so if you root there will be no more camera?
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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Sorry...you lose the fast Sense camera and get the slightly less fast, less featured AOSP camera. You can make up much of the difference with Market apps.
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To clarify, you don't lose the sense camera by rooting! You lose the sense camera by installing a Rom that is not sense based: any aosp rom like cyanogen mod. Any Rom that is based on sense like viper, or trick droid, you will have a fully functioning sense camera.
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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To answer your question directly, rooting this phone is easy and no negatives if you read a lot and understand wty may be voided and if you screw up, chance of losing a phone. But, you already know that from the other rooting you mentioned you did.
Most people that have issues don't wait long enough to learn phone and don't study the process enough. Reading just one root thread is not enough. I spent weeks reading everything I could before rooting my N1.
Benefits outweigh risks. I would root just to get Nandroids and Titanium Backup.
To me this is a hobby as at the end of the day, it is still a phone with email/internet.
Sorry, that wasn't a direct answer. But, no more risks rooting this phone than any other. Just know if you are S3 or S4 and what hboot you have before flashing roms.
Also, if you can't find a strong reason to root, I wouldn't--this phone can stand on its own--
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Thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. I agree with everything you said especially the part about the phone being able to stand on its own, I've had it for months and its great. I will be making my decision by the end of the night haha. (Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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Jeez, you'd think I wouldn't have to put so much importance on a phone :/)
You are not the only one--
Good Luck on whatever you do--
I will add one more thought--I have been doing this for several years back to early Cyanogen/Modaco on my N1 on the Nexus One Forum. Hundreds of flashes and can say I am getting a little tapped out. I may not root myself when I get my next phone. They have come so far from those early days-- hear tell the next generation phones will have my coffee ready when I get up--
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That's what I thought about this one, but every time my finger accidentally hit some idiotic bloat app or I couldn't launch a YouTube link with the app, it pissed me off. With the exception of the iPhone, all modern smartphones really need to be rooted to pry the carrier's fingers out of the deep crevices of your $600 pocket computer.
yes, excellent points on the bloat. that's why odds are I would still root for the features I mentioned above and maybe skip the continuous flashing of custom roms--
however, with more memory and speed coming the bloat may not be a factor. and, I think we can kinda freeze some of these apps now. haven't paid much attention to that feature as I rooted same day i got phone--
I waited a few weeks, then waited a few more weeks after rooting and debloating, but the allure of CM was too strong. I just cant stand the disjointed look of Sense.
CM10 is running pretty good--flashing nightlies
Guess we're getting of topic, or may entice OP to root--
This was my wifes POS Phone till I upgraded her to a SGSIII for Christmas. Now I have a device that would be perfect for my daughter if it weren't for the pesky phone option and Sprint bloatware. Are there any roms available that strip this phone to bare bones with no radios except WiFi? Haven't been able to find any and it might not be on the top of the Dev's todo list so if anyone is up to a ROM that will make this device at least usable because as a phone it SUCKS, but for a kiddo it would be a great toy with some of the game apps. Thanks in advance, and if I missed a ROM that does exactly what I'm asking in the mountains of pages in the Dev forum, please use only a small flame as I'm old and have a cold LOL.
A tip: when asking for help you might want to avoid talking trash about a device we users enjoy using.
My advice, 'the device sucks' and is a 'pos' so why bother doing anything with it. Go buy yourself, your kid or whoever an ipod and move on.
Lol why should we help you? One of the most stupid threads here
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Man, what a way to request something.
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Uhh why not just turn mobile networks off n wifi on. And take the time to root your pos so u can delete the bloat.
trsix said:
Uhh why not just turn mobile networks off n wifi on. And take the time to root your pos so u can delete the bloat.
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What he said. Yeah it wouldn't be a pos if it was rooted.. It's a little beast!
Sound like a troll
[.-.]
Best investment I've made with android was this device.
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Sound like a troll
[.-.]
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Lol, I thought the same.
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Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.
Then throw it out and go buy a portable media player, or better yet send it to a dev who would put it to use and go buy some type of portable media player.
Edit: and to anyone who actually wants to try and help this guy, does this really seem like a person we need to deal with in our little speedy community in the future?
BigSplit said:
Then throw it out and go buy a portable media player, or better yet send it to a dev who would put it to use and go buy some type of portable media player.
Edit: and to anyone who actually wants to try and help this guy, does this really seem like a person we need to deal with in our little speedy community in the future?
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ROFL Speedy community. Half of you are talking about swapping out to Photons and the other half are moving to One X's. yes I've read an awful lot before posting a question. Guess I'll be getting absolutely no help here. Not that there is much help available for this device when all the links are broken and the ones that are working, don't work for their intended purpose. Feel free to delete the thread MOD I'll stay where I'm welcome, in the Samsung sections.
Happy to see you leave, please don't come again.
Edit: and you couldn't have read to much or you would have been able to root it. Well then again, you were calling your recovery touchwiz in another thread soooo... I'm guessing you have some trouble grasping things at times.
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Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.
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Well its probably been a while since you researched how to root, because if you done that more recently or even looked at my sig, you would have already rooted that shift. I posted it here and in 3 other well-known forums so its hard to believe that you haven't found it.
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Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.
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I agree only with the last 5 words.
See?
BigSplit said:
Happy to see you leave, please don't come again.
Edit: and you couldn't have read to much or you would have been able to root it. Well then again, you were calling your recovery touchwiz in another thread soooo... I'm guessing you have some trouble grasping things at times.
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Lol I just read that. Dudes a dumbass from just scanning what he post
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revwolf said:
ROFL Speedy community. Half of you are talking about swapping out to Photons and the other half are moving to One X's. yes I've read an awful lot before posting a question. Guess I'll be getting absolutely no help here. Not that there is much help available for this device when all the links are broken and the ones that are working, don't work for their intended purpose. Feel free to delete the thread MOD I'll stay where I'm welcome, in the Samsung sections.
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Samsung sections?! Have fun! I don't see how you'd be welcome there either. Also I hope you enjoy your screen burn in Galaxy Nexus - http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/895626/4731866441_f37348315f.jpg . Ugh Buh Bye
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Well its probably been a while since you researched how to root, because if you done that more recently or even looked at my sig, you would have already rooted that shift. I posted it here and in 3 other well-known forums so its hard to believe that you haven't found it.
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Right. On just got my replacement shift today and am using that when i get home. To the OP, take a breath, and ask nicely. I'm sure that will actually get you some help
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junpei1337 said:
Right. On just got my replacement shift today and am using that when i get home. To the OP, take a breath, and ask nicely. I'm sure that will actually get you some help
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Well it seems like his kind nature when asking questions is his thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903135
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I mean I myself will wait until the last day to return it, and hope the bootloader issue has been solved. But what a shame, this device is nice. To hear the htc one already has cm10 is kinda of disappointing. So the question I ask what device will you get instead? Is it even worth it to get the international gs4 version?
I'm sticking with the GS4. I can live with the Disable option for now.
Also, I'm coming from a GSM Galaxy Nexus, so I'm already familiar with Samsung's hardware.
I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
joshuadjohnson22 said:
I'm sure it will be unlocked, its just a matter of time. Some people don't wait to wait for that time. The HTC One will most likely have a better CM10.1 experience because of the devs that have been working on it.
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Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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I don't care about the locked bootloader
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Why not have some faith in the awesome developers of XDA to crack it?
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
Thermalwolf said:
Time does not always mean a better ROM. Different developers pump out different stuff and once the bootloader is unlocked, the excitement will steamroll over to the GS4 development side. Guaranteed the GS4 has better custom roms at the end of the year :fingers-crossed:
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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If you have faith in what our awesome developers say, you should be as skeptical as they are about getting the bootloader unlocked. djrbliss tweeted yesterday that he doesn't think the bootloader can be cracked without a leak from Samsung. A few days ago, Entropy pointed out that since the S3, Samsung devices have gotten harder to crack, and they seem to be learning from their past mistakes and stepping up their bootloader security.
Still, AdamOutler is working on getting it unlocked, which is encouraging.
My point is, people shouldn't get their hopes up. If the bootloader is cracked(and I sincerely hope it happens), then great. But if it isn't, and you can't live without custom roms, then the AT&T S4 isn't the phone for you.
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Cool! Thanks for the informative post..
I am not really following any of this as I don't have any interest in custom ROM's.
I have not even rooted yet but may do so once we have a way to restore back to factory. I'm pretty simple these days (I was a chronic flasher in years past) but now I only consider root if I want to use Titanium and AdFree..
I know a lot of users want custom ROM's though so hopefully the bootloader can and will be cracked.
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It will all depend It is way to early to say which one will have better devs and roms but I do know a lot of good devs have picked up the HTC One and that mixed with the international version having the same hardware as AT&T will be HUGE! I think the big question will be with the HTC One camera on a CM build. if they can't get the drivers for the camera it may just be a 4 MP? Who knows. But Mr. Cyanogen himself has the One and other great devs. I hope for a quick unlock
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Cyanongen ...has both the One and S4 " https://plus.google.com/100275307499530023476/posts/eGmW8e8sCn4 "
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wttisme said:
Personally right now I'm fine with a root and de-bloating. I do know it's possible to remove the root and return to stock if you need or want to return the phone because I had to. I just deleted the SU binary along with Busybox from system/xbin and the phone status went back to custom and lock on boot went away.
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Yeah I am ok with that to but man the UI is so ugly... I hope to see some changes lol
As for the bootloader, the biggest problem is the number of potential developers. I'm not buying the device (full price) and a jtag just to test. And the fact that they're using an open source system is not encouraging..But let's see what happens! It does reaffirm my distain for ATT though.
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Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Borii said:
Is this bootloader directly tied to the ability to Overclock? That is the only thing I care about. I find the stock rooted rom to be best on my s3 and my current s4. Just want some OC lol
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Yes... No way to OC without a custom kernel or recovery to flash said kernel.
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SysAdmNj said:
Trust me I do, but at the same time samsung needs to be sent a message on this. What a better way than to return their locked device. There are alot of unhappy campers here.
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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Yeah... a few thousand units being returned will surely make samsung cry when they're counting how many millions they've sold
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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They may not notice but at&t sure will
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
Personally I'm just going to wait for the bootloader to be unlocked before I buy one, if it turns out that the bootloader is not unlockable I'll just buy a GS3.
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No, AT&T will not notice. They don't make their money from device sales; they make their money from monthly bills. So, all those who returned their S4's for One's and didn't switch to a different carrier won't even get AT&T's attention.
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Thanks for the info but you have not changed my mind on the matter. I'll wait as long as I can.