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My theory on the pending update

Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.

mikea3000 said:
Hi guys,
Nothing scientific about my theory, but I dont think we will see an update until after the sensation comes out. T-Mobile knows there are a great number of people annoyed with the bugs the G2x has, and some of these people might be willing to jump to the sensation.
If the G2x update came out prior to the sensation release, it might actually hurt sensation sales because G2x satification would rise.
Just a thought, could be totally wrong.
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the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...

The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.

Wait... what?
T-Mobile already made their money for the people who bought the G2x. A lot of people who will jump ship will still be within they're return period in which case Tmo doesnt make any more money off that same person buying the sensation.
Of course there are those who will jump ship outside of their return period, selling their G2x themselves. In that case tmo does make a little extra cash but I doubt their counting on that. I dont think the update has anything to do with the pending G2x release.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Tmo's real money maker is the monthly plans. They care not about selling this device or that device or delaying this update or that update on purpose.

GideonX said:
The GB update comes out in the summer, which isn't here yet (6/21).
The sensation is out before so your theory is "true" one way or another.
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According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today

GideonX said:
I guess all g2x owners will pop a woody if someone can dump the downloaded update today
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I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release

regP said:
I'd bet money a rooted version of the update will be posted here by the end of the day of release
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More like by the end of a hour of release.

JHaste said:
the g2x is tmobiles flagship phone... you really think they are stalling the update on purpose?
i dont see how it would hurt sensation sales anyway, the phones are so different... i didnt want to wait for a sensation because of many other reasons...
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Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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This is a total joke, right? Man, I wish there *were* Ninjas at T-Mobile...

I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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BobbyDukes707 said:
I would rather wait a bit and have it done right...
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LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key

Lightning N1 said:
LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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Exactly this.. I wait for about a day after release for a rooted, deodexed version..

dkb218 said:
According to well placed Ninjas at T-Mobile, the update should hit sometime "early this week". People have been told to keep refreshing the software update screen on their device starting today.
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Hype likely wrong
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Erislover said:
Sorry to disagree so strongly, but what are you smoking, and can I have some? They pulled the phone...no need to speculate on reasons why, but I don't think it's easy to make the case the g2x is still their flagship phone.
OP's theory is plausible, at least...
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If you could read you would know they pulled the phone because it was selling faster then they could produce it.....reading is knowledge
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Lightning N1 said:
LOL, I have seen this play out several times on the Nexus One Forum.
1. After several days of people posting about checking and several faults alarms.
2. Someone will actually get the up-date and not know enough to do a logcat.
3. More reports and claims of faults alarms, then screen shots will start.
4. Finally someone will actually post a link to the update.zip
5. Then a bunch of Noobs jump the gun, flash update, and loose root and custom recovery.
6. After a couple of hours someone competent will create a rooted, deodext Rom that can be flashed from recovery without bloat and everyone can be happy
Patience is key
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rofl. I love it.
To me, it can make sense to wait or to just release it. They obviously have a brand new phone that needs an update. That is hurting them, money wise, more then just releasing the update.
Although you may have people hold out for the Sensation. Either way you have some people who have a G2x now, looking to buy a G2x or Sensation, and some who got pissed, sold the phone, and moved to Verizon.
I always believe to fix the problem as soon as possible. The longer it goes on the deeper the cuts.
My G2x is fantastic though on CM7. So while I may benefit from the update indirectly, I'm not sitting by watching the clock for it.

Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?

krekabl said:
Will I have to unroot my G2X in order to get official GB update?
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Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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BobbyDukes707 said:
Nope... but you will most likely lose root....
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That will suck.
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Boot animation question

Will this work on the Skyrocket?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qz3czxoreE

nice. i would like that too

Gary86 said:
Will this work on the Skyrocket?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qz3czxoreE
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NO it won't!

appdroid said:
NO it won't!
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sure it will, assuming you are running a rom and a kernel that supports boot animation

Pirateghost said:
sure it will, assuming you are running a rom and a kernel that supports boot animation
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Well the only kernel we got is Da_G's and he is working on getting boot animation to work!

appdroid said:
Well the only kernel we got is Da_G's and he is working on getting boot animation to work!
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that may be, but dont say it WONT work....it will as long as the variables are correct.

Pirateghost said:
that may be, but dont say it WONT work....it will as long as the variables are correct.
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Your skyrockets coming tomarrow u said right? Bet your looking forward to some insane data speeds....haha i got 35 down with ² bars.

silver03wrx said:
Your skyrockets coming tomarrow u said right? Bet your looking forward to some insane data speeds....haha i got 35 down with ² bars.
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im getting speeds like that on my Vivid
the skyrocket should be here any day now.

O o you have a vivid. Whatcha think about it honestly? From what ive read skyrocket blows it away. But who knows

the vivid is nice, but htc lying to us about the bootloader is beginning to piss me off immensely.
i have a rom built for it, and i cant even flash it yet.
i have a rom built for the skyrocket, but the difference is that i will be able to flash it as soon as its in my hands....

I had the evo 3d . With hboot 1.5 which was locked but htc put a way on there website to unlock it as they called it. We could flash roms with cwm but had to fastboot flash kernels so we had to use the pc to get into fastboot ... did they not do the same for the vivid?

silver03wrx said:
I had the evo 3d . With hboot 1.5 which was locked but htc put a way on there website to unlock it as they called it. We could flash roms with cwm but had to fastboot flash kernels so we had to use the pc to get into fastboot ... did they not do the same for the vivid?
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ha!.
the vivid is the exact same thing as the htc raider in canada. if you take a canadian htc raider, go to htcdev.com you can unlock. if you take a vivid and go to htcdev.com, and try to unlock you get an error 170. CID not allowed. aka, AT&T is involved somehow with the locked bootloader. numerous attempts have been made to contact htc in regards to the locked bootloader, and we keep getting cut n paste responses from their 'CSRs'. "please watch htcdev.com for an unlocked bootloader in the future"
their time is running thin. people are giving them 30 days, if they dont unlock, the vivid community is going to be barren.

Pirateghost said:
that may be, but dont say it WONT work....it will as long as the variables are correct.
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well guess what u r still waiting for ur rocket while i hav mine and i tried it and still it wouldn't let me delete the boot animation file or past the nexus boot animation. So i think you can probably figure this out when you get the phone. And looking forward to see that ROM of urs in Dev forum.

I hear that. But there was no way to unlock the evo3d at first either. Everyone was pissed, and someone started a petition got like over 100000 signatures on htcs facebook, and they were hardcore trolled non stop with everyone thretening to reaturn the device. But it worked because like 2 days later htc released a statement. they were unlocking it , And they did ( kinda). Then said future devices would have unlocked bootloaders. Lol looks like they lied in this case

silver03wrx said:
I hear that. But there was no way to unlock the evo3d at first either. Everyone was pissed, and someone started a petition got like over 100000 signatures on htcs facebook, and they were hardcore trolled non stop with everyone thretening to reaturn the device. But it worked because like 2 days later htc released a statement. they were unlocking it , And they did ( kinda). Then said future devices would have unlocked bootloaders. Lol looks like they lied in this case
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19754709#post19754709

Wow yup same situation except this time they flat out lied.... they posted that statement 2 days after they saw over 100000 pissed off people wanting the evo3d unlocked. Im suprised they havent caved yet i hope for you guys they do... there starting to become more like motorola lol

Pirateghost said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=19754709#post19754709
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Did you receive the Skyrocket yet?

appdroid said:
Did you receive the Skyrocket yet?
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hell no. i ordered the skyrocket along with an iphone 4s. according to AT&T, my order is being held up by the 4s
grr....
according to their order status, it may not ship until next monday!

Pirateghost said:
hell no. i ordered the skyrocket along with an iphone 4s. according to AT&T, my order is being held up by the 4s
grr....
according to their order status, it may not ship until next monday!
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really att is pissing me off! i m waiting for another beast dev for Skyrocket but f****** att is holding him! By the way can't you just ask them to mail skyrocket first and ishitty later?

haha. cancelled my order, and placed 2 new separate orders.
should have skyrocket in hand in a couple of days. hopefully this weekend i will see some action.

[Q] Warranty hard bricked AT&T A2 ?

Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
alteredlikeness said:
Yes, they ask for your personal information so that they can confirm that you are a customer. They won't give non-customers replacements.. And, Motorola only tells you to send it in for repair...
Let's put it this way, I was on the phone with Moto for almost 2 hours and they only offered me to send it in for repair (or, call my carrier and see what they can do). And, I was on the phone with AT&T for 5 minutes total, and they offered me a replacement within 3 minutes, before I could even ask for one...
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But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:

vinamilk said:
Hello all guys here,
Me and some man here just hard bricked our A2 due to come back GB from ICS leak, which is forbidden !
Mine was from AT&T and still in warranty when I checked here, but it is unlocked grey item, not from any contract.
alteredlikeness finished his warranty, had a new phone and answered my question :
But I wonder, if I send it directly to Motorola for Service and Repair, do they accept it as "In warranty" as their site checked ?
If the answer is YES, they will exchange for free
If NO, maybe we have to pay "$109 plus applicable taxes" for "Out-of-Warranty" option - that is acceptable price for a new mainboard - IMO.
Any idea ?
Thanks ! :victory:
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Just go to the Motorola mobility site for the atrix 2 and either chat with a support rep through the website, or there is a number to call them at the bottom of the page. There was someone else already who contacted them and was told that they do not support the A2 in that persons country, and they would not even allow him to send the phone in for repairs, even for a price. The only way you can know for sure, is to contact Motorola directly.

Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it to my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know how Moto's behavior is before I do it.

vinamilk said:
Thanks Jim,
I think I will send it for my brother who living in Boston - USA first, then he will take it to Motorola. Just want to know Moto's behavior before I do it.
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That right there will probably save you some huge headaches, since the AT&T version is a US phone... just realize they might be able to JTAG the device and see that the ICS leak was applied, and give you no support. Just want to let you know that, just so you get prepared. You might think about finding someplace that can JTAG it for you, that is in your half of the world. I am guessing there are places on the web that do that service, which you can send it to.

Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...

vinamilk said:
Oh so I save money and maybe my next phone will be Sammy S3 like you ...
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Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.

jimbridgman said:
Dude, I can not say enough great things about the SGS 3 and I have never liked the sammy phones until this one. I had a captivate, and I vowed after that to never have another samsung galaxy phone, until this one. I am switching between CM9 and CM10 right now every other day just to see all the progress we are making with the Jelly bean and project butter coding in the CM10 dailies.
The Atrix2 is my last Motorola phone. I also have a Xoom, and that is why I go this phone, hoping it would be like the xoom, but the A2 is too locked down for any real good mods.
Yeah I would save up for the SGS 3 it is a monster piece of hardware just don't buy a verizon version as they locked the bootloader on that one only.
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Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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Off topic but
I followed the sg3 train too. Thought it would be delivered yesterday. Going to have to what til Monday. Should have gone to best buy and just upgraded there.
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Mine says I still have warranty, so it is a really good news for me.
But I live in Aruba I don't know how to send it to them.

Apex_Strider said:
Jim,
I was this close (touching thumb and forefinger together) to early upgrading to the SGS3 yesterday. Next week, I think I'm going to pull the trigger on it. Had it not been for your rave reviews on the SGS3 I'd likely not be considering it at all. So, I will shall see you in the SG3 forums soon...
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The s3 is a truly wicked piece of hardware. Gonna steal the wifes for awhile when i get home.
Motorola lied and I'm still locked mb865

Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.

jimbridgman said:
Guys, the SGS 3 with CM9 and even the CM10 builds have been AMAZING!!!! I am getting 48 hours with decent use on a charge with CM9 and CM10, and with the stock I was getting about 20+ hours with the same amount of use.
With CM9 and CM10, there is no way any other phone even comes close in terms of performance, battery, useability and fun. With CM10 and project butter, it is just fantastic performance and smooth as butter.... LOL.
See all you guys over there... and the forum over there is handeled much better no one puts up with crap over there, and bad posts get removed so fast it is not even funny.
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Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Man... Still stuck with A2. I need to gather up $500 somehow!!!

Apex_Strider said:
Everything you just mentioned has me now on my way to the closest Best Buy for a 'buy back' on my A2! Was going to do so yesterday, but decided to wait. Now I'm sold...
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Good luck, I hope you get it, it is a bad A$$ phone, and so easy to do anything to and you have CWM working by default on this phone.. just flash the rooted image with ODIN and then install ROM Manager, and have it flash the latest version of recovery and touch recovery works so nice.....
All I can say is you will love this beast.

I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?

sjc807 said:
I also hard bricked my phone, but I'm kinda glad I did. I went to AT&T and told them it bricked from an OTA update, so they told me they'll send out a new one and I'll have to ship the bricked one to them. Then I was going to exchange the new one along with my Samsung Captivate for the Galaxy S III (in total I'll get $120 off ). My question is, is there a chance that AT&T will figure out I bricked it from the leaked update?
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Nope.
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Clericgram said:
I am torn between the s3 and the one x.
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The SGS 3 all the way... the one x does not have an SDcard slot, so you HAVE to have unlimited data, and if you don't then you are going to be screwed if you like to have music and pics and stuff at your fingertips, because you will have to use cloud services for all that. Oh and the one x does not have a replaceable battery. Oh and AOSP and AOKP have official builds for the SGS 3, good luck with that on the one X.

Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.

sjc807 said:
Good! I was afraid that they would of asked for the replacement back after I traded it for a GSIII. Thanks for the quick reply by the way.
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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...

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They will ask for it back possibly, but don't worry, I have done this with phones I have totally hacked, and I always play very dumb and act like it is AT&T's fault my phone broke... they really do not care, becuase they will have already given you your upgrade... just say that you did a factory rest and had to redo the OTA and it will not even turn on now... they will pretty much tell you NP, just don't say the words ICS or leak...
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That's pretty much what I told them lol. As long as they don't realize that I updated to the leak I'll be fine. Thanks again, I feel better now.

Guys can we do anything about what HTC and at&t are doing to us?

okay so by now I have learned that it might not just be htcs fault but is most likely atts fault that were not getting the unlocked boot loader or the proper sources to be released
Why is att doing this? There's nothing positive for them or HTC in doing this
Is there anything we can do, does any one have connections with people in bigger companies that make this very public and sound like the huge issue that it is
Is there any else that we can do besides for that?
I think it would just be a good idea to brainstorm on wht to do to fix this dilemma
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Vote with your dollars cancel service and tell them why.

Source has been released except for the most recent updates. Those will be released eventually.
I doubt AT&T is going to budge on the locked bootloader because the number of people who really care probably represent about 1% of their HOX customers.
If you're intent on pushing, the place to start would be making a stink on AT&T's social media pages.

Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.

XNine said:
Well, if you have the money to start a class action against them, sure.
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Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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I'd probably just punch him in the Face
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If you guys really want to try, just go to small claims courts claiming that you were convinced that you had the ability to unlock the bootloader, and use Peter Chou's statement on unlocking bootloaders as evidence, and then say that you couldn't unlock it. If you lose, nothing happens to you. If you win, and a lot of other people win, AT&T is going to be bleeding money.

karan1203 said:
Doesn't the AT&T contract say you can't sue them?
I think you can still take them to small court which is limited to a few thousand dollars.
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I've never seen anything saying you couldn't sue AT&T. A Class action would be there to reverse their grip on a handset, which is HTC's flagship in North America (and arguably, the best phone out right now). It hurts devs more than anything.

tony_5309 said:
Besides... we have unlocked bootloaders and root I'd love to go to Corporate AT&T and get to the guy who decides this stuff and show them my phone and tell them they can't stop us. There's ways around everything.
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We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...

Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!

lazarat said:
Buy samsung. Let htc go bankrupt!
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its not HTC its ATT so that comment really didnt help. ATT wants the locked bootloader on all thier flagship phones. The dont want people to do tethering, and they want to be able to force you to keep that ****ty bloatware for the possible sales they would get from it. its flat out ATT greed that has them keeping the bootloader locked down. Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.

blessedswine said:
Unfortunatly right now HTC doesnt have the pull Samsung does to force ATT hand.
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Then they better have the pull because people pay high amount of $ for their device and do not care whether they have the pull or not. Maybe htc should call themselves apple2 since all I read about them is giving devs hard time not releasing sources etc while on their webpage they claim to be dev friendly which is total bull****.

This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.

SkizzMcNizz said:
This new software update isn't good. Patching the hboot, no root, no bootloader unlock. We shouldn't expect any new developers developing for this phone. AT&T sealed that deal for us when they release 2.20.
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yep and the att guy at the store updated my wifes before giving it to her and i asked him why he said they were told they have to do the update on all HTC One X they sell. i returned it and ordered from amazon hoping to get 1.85 on the phone. This was earlier today when she wanted to upgrade to the HOX too.

vioalas said:
We might, but anyone that is getting this phone now with the new update is screwed for a while. And it's not fair that they have to wait just because these companies are being dumb.
I suggest we all get on a bus, go to Houston where AT&T is based and just drop our pants and leave them something at their front entrance....
Just kidding...
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LoL! This is true..
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app

Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?

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Now, who's coding the HBoot? It can't be AT&T, can it? I would think it would have to be HTC because no one at AT&T is smart enough to do this...
Edit: As well, just checked HTC's site... the rom is listed for manual download. Perhaps a dev can reverse engineer it?
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Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.

gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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Has anyone who's taken the ota and kept root confirmed which partitions are/aren't WP?

gunnyman said:
Root will come. The question after that is can CID be changed again or has htc locked it down again? The locked up nature of htc and att is so anti android it makes me sick.
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I hear ya man. ****, I should have got an iPhone. At least I could pester Siri about her hot sister or ask advice on hiding bodies. Even iPhones are having better luck getting unlocked.
Regardless, I do love this phone. Probably the best phone since the Nexus One.
Like you said though, just a matter of time, and, will we have bootloader unlock access? I'm going to be hopeful. For anyone who buys their device with 2.20 loaded, it would really suck to not be able to at least achieve root.
Question, gunny... do you know (assuming one has root and TBU), is there a way to freeze the updates? Is their a system app or process that could be frozen so that OTA's never show again?

What Nothing???

Any one getting this phone? Sure hope so it looks great. I have the Note 4 but looking to take it back on Thursday when the Edge comes out. Hope we can get root on this phone..

WhiteReign said:
Any one getting this phone? Sure hope so it looks great. I have the Note 4 but looking to take it back on Thursday when the Edge comes out. Hope we can get root on this phone..
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Same boat as you. Note 4 on hand ready to be sold. Waiting to see what happens on Thursday, but don't hold your breath..........If root is found for the Verizon Note 4, it should be simple to port to the Edge.

Geronimo.USMC said:
Same boat as you. Note 4 on hand ready to be sold. Waiting to see what happens on Thursday, but don't hold your breath..........If root is found for the Verizon Note 4, it should be simple to port to the Edge.
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harrumph Doubt it cuz the bootloader will be locked Verizon is notorious for this...

Thepooch said:
harrumph Doubt it cuz the bootloader will be locked Verizon is notorious for this...
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yeah, I know this

Think Positive people!

I plan on getting one tomorrow. I'm kind of nervous that Verizon has still not confirmed the launch. I think that our hopes for root depend on the efforts of the Note 4 with it's huge bounty. If that bounty gets some publicity I would imagine some Linux pros could get on it and get it done. And if they get it done one of our awesome devs could port it to the Edge. My fingers are crossed. :fingers-crossed:

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I plan on getting one tomorrow. I'm kind of nervous that Verizon has still not confirmed the launch. I think that our hopes for root depend on the efforts of the Note 4 with it's huge bounty. If that bounty gets some publicity I would imagine some Linux pros could get on it and get it done. And if they get it done one of our awesome devs could port it to the Edge. My fingers are crossed. :fingers-crossed:
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I spoke with VZW today and the rep told me it would be in store on 01-08-2015. I guess we will see.

I work there lol. They are already here. Just cant sell them till tomorrow.

WhiteReign said:
I work there lol. They are already here. Just cant sell them till tomorrow.
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I just ordered mine online. I already have one on my tmo account and really like the phone.

I can't believe I found one in the store on release day. Only store around me for 100 miles had just one. I lucked out since it was my nearest store. I flat out bought it. I Been playing with it all day. Now time to sell my practically brand new Note 4.

Geronimo.USMC said:
I can't believe I found one in the store on release day. Only store around me for 100 miles had just one. I lucked out since it was my nearest store. I flat out bought it. I Been playing with it all day. Now time to sell my practically brand new Note 4.
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Nice. Hope the Dev's can get root on this one soon. I cant wait.

WhiteReign said:
Nice. Hope the Dev's can get root on this one soon. I cant wait.
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Doubt it, sorry.

pieces of cake said:
Doubt it, sorry.
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That is not very positive now is it?

WhiteReign said:
That is not very positive now is it?
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I'm positive that the chances are EXTREMELY small that you'll ever see a rooted Verizon Edge. No reason to get your hopes up. Don't waste your time and energy.

pieces of cake said:
I'm positive that the chances are EXTREMELY small that you'll ever see a rooted Verizon Edge. No reason to get your hopes up. Don't waste your time and energy.
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This looks like the end. I will be in the woods with a 12 gauge. Its been fun all but no point in living now.

WhiteReign said:
This looks like the end. I will be in the woods with a 12 gauge. Its been fun all but no point in living now.
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From what I've read in the Note 4 forums, finding root on Lollipop is more likely than finding root on KitKat. Also, there is supposed to be a Developer Edition released soon. While this won't help root on the retail version, that is another possibility if you really want root.