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Is you knox triggered?
Was it intentional or by accident?
1 - yes knox triggered unintentionally.
1 - not triggered...
I tried to root device for Titanium Backup and Adblocker and maybe to play around a little bit. At first I was afraid of this new counter and how bad it could affect my mobile life. I tried a safe method to root but at least I'd done anything wrong or it hadn't worked with my device at all. So it was an accident but it didn't change anything for me xD. I am used that Samsung devices are die-hard and in the past if something was to repair the most easiest and fastest way was to repair it by myself. So never mind.
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I used Root de la Vega and it worked. But when I wanted to try out Knox it told me I'm unable to do so. I checked it and I tripped the flag. But it also has its advantages because I'm pretty much open for new Roms etc
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Latest UK firmware - Knox Flag 0x0 - Rooted with Universal RDLV
But it takes much time to make sure nothing goes wrong. Maybe I'm getting bored from reading forums for hours, just to keep the knox flag at 0x0. If it takes too much afford or stops me from getting new firmwares, I'm not afraid to trigger the flag, because I don't need Knox and the loss in sales value should be marginal.
I'm trippin
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does tripping the knox counter affect the system integrity by any chance? a damage to system or anything? or is it just for warranty purposes so that samsung service centers can check for unauthorized modding? i am planning to get a n9005 note 3 myself in the coming days but this knox thing has me spooked...i read it everywhere with so many people tiptoeing around it...thank you
linx1287 said:
does tripping the knox counter affect the system integrity by any chance? a damage to system or anything? or is it just for warranty purposes so that samsung service centers can check for unauthorized modding? i am planning to get a n9005 note 3 myself in the coming days but this knox thing has me spooked...i read it everywhere with so many people tiptoeing around it...thank you
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Self explanatory, warranty void 0x1....
Doesn't affect anything else except the using of the Knox security which is geared more for businesses anyway...
Not intentional, vega root method did it. 0x1
New to Samsung... How to check this?
Triggered, intentionally.. I really don't see what the fuzz is about. All these counters, just let them count... I betting that everybody that's on xda usually swaps phones at least once a year and what would you need the warranty for anyway? if somethings broke, you probably broke it yourself and you will be able to fix it. (expecting lots of flame now )
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I didn't trigger knox on the 900V with the Kingoapp root.
To check Knox Status :
1. Power Off Phone
2. Hold Power, Volume Down and Home button at the same time till it boots
3. Press Volume Down
4. Check Status then Hold the Power Button till the Phone reboots.
Tripped intentionally .. look at the de la vega thread and cf root thread.. way simpler..
anyway.. who cares.. I live in europe.. the warranty is in the store.. not samsung.. the people working there think root is something from a tree ..
Sammy has fu***d me intentionally as I m on exynos. Updated to mj6 and now it says "warranty bit 1 ".
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Tripping Knox is no concern at all for me and shouldnt be for any UK/EU personal user. I would never use Knox itself anyways, to be this is for corporate use not personal. I have Vodafone insurance so if there is a problem with the phone the Knox status is moot.
Yes
Intentionally, first day root cameout.
Yes intentionally although this will be my last Samsung phone ever... Don't like the new Apple tactics.
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Not triggered
CekMTL said:
Yes intentionally although this will be my last Samsung phone ever... Don't like the new Apple tactics.
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With you there. Problem is that there aren't many alternatives that are any better, at least in the US. I moved away from Motorola because of that. Ironically, now Samsung is locking down and Motorola is loosening up. My timing sucks.
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Yes intentionally although this will be my last Samsung phone ever... Don't like the new Apple tactics.
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Same for me.
Used Root de la Vega, not tripped.
Hello im new here, I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505 LTE version (I assume this is 4g version correct me if im wrong) and I live in england on three which has not rolled out android 4.3 to my device yet
Can somebody tell me the benefits to Knox and the disadvantages to Knox thanks.
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
Unless your business uses knox it's totally useless AFAIK
Problem is you cannot root your phone or use custom firmware, or it will trip the knox flag. In some countries this means your warranty is voided. It cannot be reversed.
nwsk said:
http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
Unless your business uses knox it's totally useless AFAIK
Problem is you cannot root your phone or use custom firmware, or it will trip the knox flag. In some countries this means your warranty is voided. It cannot be reversed.
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I agree I was worried at first but as my phone is only personal use I thought "who cares" ultimately if the phone fails due to a hardware issue it is still covered by warranty on most countries. .. I'm now on 4.3 rooted , phillz touch and Abyss Kernal ... I'm glad I did .. hope this helps
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in my opinion is bad, im tired of getting those stupid knox messages about it stopping an app from doing who knows what
it does this like twice an hour
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negrobembon said:
in my opinion is bad, im tired of getting those stupid knox messages about it stopping an app from doing who knows what
it does this like twice an hour
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You can delete knox if u don't mind to activate the knox bit. No more messages, better battery, more happy...
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colang said:
I agree I was worried at first but as my phone is only personal use I thought "who cares" ultimately if the phone fails due to a hardware issue it is still covered by warranty on most countries. .. I'm now on 4.3 rooted , phillz touch and Abyss Kernal ... I'm glad I did .. hope this helps
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I agree, I have a rooted 4.3, activated warranty bit, for me it is not a problem, but people should know in some countries warranty wouldn't cover it even if fail is not a direct hardware issue but a sw issue. For example, they could think that if you have wb to 1 is because you probably flashed in any moment a custon rom or custom kernel > maybe overclocked > maybe inapropiated overclock > burn any component > hardware issue...
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From a legal perspective, at a basic level no company has to guarantee/warranty you /anything/. They give warranties to attract customers as part of the contract of buying the item. However, they are free to put whatever terms&conditions that will void your warranty.
The reason you can get warranties covered even with the knox disabled etc is because in some countries the government passes consumer protection laws that make it mandatory to give warranties (because of unequal bargaining power - who really negotiates the terms&conditions with these mega corporations?). These statutory laws override a company's power to negotiate freely in contract, therefore they may be forced to cover hardware damage etc. This is by far from a global standard, so you have to know what your local laws are to know what your rights are. Samsung (and any other company) will always put in their t&c something like 'warranty does not cover blahblahblah; unless required to by local laws'. They're never going to tell you in the contract whether or not your local law covers it, their default position is that it doesn't.
Picked up my new Note 3 today.
Oh so cool!!!!!!
Sorry, really excited
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Grats... just that we're not that lucky to get that model in india we have only N9000 note 3. But nonetheless grats again n enjoy
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Congrats and enjoy. Make sure to look on the forum and YouTube to learn what the phone can really do.
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congrats!! I got mine 1 week ago, very happy with it, not a single complain, everything as good ss expected, nice screen, good sound, long lasting battery, quick and nimble responses, as a bonus, the screen is very grease resistant, my former phone was a S3, I had to clean it several times a day, the note 3 barely shows any fingerprint, Im very happy with this phone
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
stanley08 said:
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
Ramsey said:
Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
radicalisto said:
Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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My other phone's a Ferrari.
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It's just a secure container, mainly designed for business use and IT Managers and such. It can put data on a secure part of the phone also which no one can access except you. If you are rooted, your KNOX becomes void, therefore secure container can no longer be guaranteed secure.
I did not recive mine N9005 yet, so I dont know which rom on it
but I read that flashing or rooting will void the warranty, with my old note 1 flashing the stock rom will return device to official state, is it the same with note 3?
congrats on ur note 3! have fun! make sure u explore and find just how useful and awesome the s pen and the features made for it are!
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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@radicalisto said it all!
Thanks guys! by the way, I'll be in Canada soon and I'll probably get it there. Can I still root it safely or that will void warranty? Is it better to buy one that is unlocked already?
Thanks for the replies everyone. Been loving it, don't feel the need to root it yet is awesome stock.
Gonna watch a few videos and see if I can find some cool tips or tricks.
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Just got my note 3 yesterday from Verizon I traded my nexus 4 in and only paid $95 for it.
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Should I really root my note 3 or need yet?
I Faced so many hard times routing my Sgs+ now I really find the phone itself so good with latest android version so what rott can add more hour such device
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I had the same problem. I bought my note 3 in December and since then I was thinking about rooting. Finally, few days ago I finally decided to root my phone. And to be honest, now I feel like I have a new phone. Finally I could install apps like SD maid, greenify, Wanam, I could freeze/uninstall all this bloatware I have never been using like Knox, printing services etc. Now I have full control over my phone and I don't regret rooting and voiding my varranty (I used cf auto root)
My battery is a lot better now too!
Thinking right now about flashing a custom kernel to improve my phone even more.
If you don't worry too much about varranty, i would recommend rooting this phone. Even though this phone is one of the fastest devices now, there is still room for improvements.
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.NetDeveloper said:
Should I really root my note 3 or need yet?
I Faced so many hard times routing my Sgs+ now I really find the phone itself so good with latest android version so what rott can add more hour such device
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If you don`t need it and don`t miss anything atm don`t do it, and don`t let others convince you that you should or that its cool
I really dunno I scared really because the custome ROM will not add any new for the phonebut maybe disable do much features on it. I Agree with you that phone really do good and one of the best now but. .. This need to think about it so much so lol
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.NetDeveloper said:
I really dunno I scared really because the custome ROM will not add any new for the phonebut maybe disable do much features on it. I Agree with you that phone really do good and one of the best now but. .. This need to think about it so much so lol
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Look here too for warranty after rooting within the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801.
gee2012 said:
Look here too for warranty after rooting within the EU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998801.
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This nice news but how I make sure that this is real. Should I call the warranty?
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If you have to ask, then don't root.
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Root!! No brainer, free your phone!
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I also haven't rooted yet - will wait until Samsung officially stop providing updates... I don't want to have to flash ota updates
There really is no downside to rooting, if you know what you are doing.
It can only help your phone IMO
I'm caught in limbo too. I've rooted every Android device I've had and that is a lot of handsets. For me just to remove bloat and put a decent ad blocker on makes it all worth while. However, when it came to selling my Note 2 I noticed how hard it was to sell my device rooted. The only time I got any interest was when I completely returned it to stock and reset the flash counter etc. As this is currently not possible as I'm on 4.4.2 then I'm sat very much on the fence. I don't want a device that has no resale value but I wan't all that root has to offer.
I am broadly very happy with the phone. The battery is remarkable and it's as snappy as I need. but I am inching towards the rash decision to flash away and root. TBH the bloat stuff isn't bothering me and KitKat makes it easy to freeze apps... but I really detest all the adds in the browser and adds when using YouTube. If there was a non rooted solution for adds I doubt I'd even bother. The custom ROM scene is fairly ho hum by the look of it if you wan't to keep S-Pen functionality so which way to go?
Root it -> Install Custom ROM and Kernel
Don't wuss out after you start rooting, they joy of the scene are the new things developers can put into the device to enhance the experience.
The KNOX is your only thing you should think about, but once the tables are turned, go all the way in.
The battery may be friendly at first, but it can't be as friendly as a custom kernel built upon the basis of battery saving.
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I'm caught in limbo too. I've rooted every Android device I've had and that is a lot of handsets. For me just to remove bloat and put a decent ad blocker on makes it all worth while. However, when it came to selling my Note 2 I noticed how hard it was to sell my device rooted. The only time I got any interest was when I completely returned it to stock and reset the flash counter etc. As this is currently not possible as I'm on 4.4.2 then I'm sat very much on the fence. I don't want a device that has no resale value but I wan't all that root has to offer.
I am broadly very happy with the phone. The battery is remarkable and it's as snappy as I need. but I am inching towards the rash decision to flash away and root. TBH the bloat stuff isn't bothering me and KitKat makes it easy to freeze apps... but I really detest all the adds in the browser and adds when using YouTube. If there was a non rooted solution for adds I doubt I'd even bother. The custom ROM scene is fairly ho hum by the look of it if you wan't to keep S-Pen functionality so which way to go?
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Best way for non-rooted users is using "Static DNS for WiFi" with FoolDNS's servers, unfortunately only on WiFi, but it's something:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.usb0.wifistaticdns
http://www.fooldns.com/fooldns-community/english-version/
Ive sold rooted rom installed phones the last two phones I owned and had no trouble...warrenty should be the only drawback
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To me, an unrooted android phone is similar to an iphone. Cute, shiny toy, does very little for a very lot of money . Then again, a hell damn lot of my apps require root access...
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I'm still happy with my official rom and don't want to lose warranty
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I'm still happy with my official rom and don't want to lose warranty
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You won't lose your warranty because rooting or changing system software does not directly void your warranty i.e if you rooted and flashed a ROM, then a repair was needed, Samsung have to prove that rooting or changing the system software was the direct cause of the malfunction, if they can't then they are obliged to fix the problem at no cost to you under statutory law.
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You won't lose your warranty because rooting or changing system software does not directly void your warranty i.e if you rooted and flashed a ROM, then a repair was needed, Samsung have to prove that rooting or changing the system software was the direct cause of the malfunction, if they can't then they are obliged to fix the problem at no cost to you under statutory law.
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I'm not sure, but I have an experience with this. My previous phone (not samsung) is refused for warranty because it's rooted when I came back to the store where I buy it. And I have no time to argue with them, so I decide to paid for them to fix my phone.
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You won't lose your warranty because rooting or changing system software does not directly void your warranty i.e if you rooted and flashed a ROM, then a repair was needed, Samsung have to prove that rooting or changing the system software was the direct cause of the malfunction, if they can't then they are obliged to fix the problem at no cost to you under statutory law.
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Even if that's the case in your country of residence there is still a risk of being denied if you trip knox. You then face a lengthy dispute process to get them to honour it. In the mean time you are either without phone or have to pay for the repair.
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magez.it said:
I'm not sure, but I have an experience with this. My previous phone (not samsung) is refused for warranty because it's rooted when I came back to the store where I buy it. And I have no time to argue with them, so I decide to paid for them to fix my phone.
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You need to throw the book at them, they are obliged to repair it unless they can prove your actions caused the phone to break. Read this https://fsfe.org/freesoftware/legal/flashingdevices.en.html
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not long , i root my s7 and i forget that i buy last month :laugh:
now i afraid my s7 have problem too :crying:
i want to know today , have how to reset knox warranty to 0 or not?
ps. i so sorry my english very bad i can't spaek eng but i try it,
JujuffXSuper said:
not long , i root my s7 and i forget that i buy last month[emoji23]
now i afraid my s7 have problem too :crying:
i want to know today , have how to reset knox warranty to 0 or not?
ps. i so sorry my english very bad i can't spaek eng but i try it,
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Afaik, when knox is tripped it is irreversible...
Guys please confirm
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omg :crying:
Correct, the mainboard should be replaced if you want a clean knox.
JujuffXSuper said:
not long , i root my s7 and i forget that i buy last month :laugh:
now i afraid my s7 have problem too :crying:
i want to know today , have how to reset knox warranty to 0 or not?
ps. i so sorry my english very bad i can't spaek eng but i try it,
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don't worry my friend, if you have hardware problems, will be really difficult to the warranty to not accept it and replace the parts that should be replaced only because your knox is 1 instead of 0, if they do it you can even try to sue samsung, but I aways root my phones and with one phone that I had I sent to warrant to replace some parts ( If I remember right was the LCD and microphone ) and I didn't have any problem with it, I also had and Nexus 5 that I used a lot for about 2 years and it's still working flawlessly ! actually I sold it to buy the S7, but what you have to think is, it can have hardware problems some time, but it's really difficult, today we have a very hard tolerances and a lot of technology in the industries, you can leave and enjoy your phone with root, I can even told you taht you will sell you phone before it starting to have problems on their hardware !
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omg :crying:
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What problem? If it is software relayed maybe we can help
Yeah, in terms of resetting Knox, it's not possible. Whether they'll check for it though is a different matter entirely (some service centres do, some don't).
That said, in any rooting how-to thread, the whole "this will trip Knox and may void your warranty" is prominently mentioned. A good reminder for everyone actually to read before jumping in.
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thanks everyone , now my phone don't have promblem
but i just worry when i come to service center of sumsung ..