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Knox is not an eFuse

I've been researching this for a couple of weeks, and have finally managed to change the Flag of Knox on the Bootloader... at the moment, I'm no closer to actually repairing the 0x1 counter, but it does let us know that it is indeed software/firmware related.
Attached file look at Knox Warranty : 0xffffffc and Knox Kernel Lock: 0xffffffc
Regards,
Mat

Interesting work. Perhaps you can share your work or research.
"All men are created equal, some work harder in pre-season."
- Emmitt Smith

It seems you are right but there has to be some kind of encryption...

And why is this a new topic is discussed after the other and I told you what is obtained 0xffffffc

OP, did you use some hex/low level editing to change that value?
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Febby said:
Interesting work. Perhaps you can share your work or research.
"All men are created equal, some work harder in pre-season."
- Emmitt Smith
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The quote is killing me lol
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What happens if you now do something that trips the flag? Does it go 0xfffffffd?
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Wow I thought aboot sent a command to the TrustZone kernel to set the fuse. Where did you find this flag? Newer versions of aboot will probably verify it using public key cryptography.
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MemoryController said:
Wow I thought aboot sent a command to the TrustZone kernel to set the fuse. Where did you find this flag? Newer versions of aboot will probably verify it using public key cryptography.
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that seems to be done since the new KnoxBootloader came into the phone, it looking for matching keys and if they're not present well it will trigger Knox 0x1 and it seems like it won't kill your warranty, but i'm not sure how its outside EU but several people claimed that it doesn't void the warranty (except US)
Well as i'm not wrong it's even stated by samsung that it looks for keys and if it's not the correct key the Knox will be triggered and the TIMA (Knox) won't working unless you somehow contact a service center for help (but yeah it seems even if you've rooted your phone) which means you'll get knox 0x1 you're still able to get the Knox but well that explains much but seems to be not an efuse due to the mention by samsung that it uses keys and also that it can be fixed bla bla

galnet said:
I've been researching this for a couple of weeks, and have finally managed to change the Flag of Knox on the Bootloader... at the moment, I'm no closer to actually repairing the 0x1 counter, but it does let us know that it is indeed software/firmware related.
Attached file look at Knox Warranty : 0xffffffc and Knox Kernel Lock: 0xffffffc
Regards,
Mat
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How do you make the "eMMC Brust Mode" unenable?

SimonGleinert said:
How do you make the "eMMC Brust Mode" unenable?
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On the picture it's enabled...? :what:
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yeah, if u trip knox again, what is gonna happen? maybe u can make overflow that variable!
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nice work out there, waiting for more! good to know it isn't hardware protection, because I triggered it

If it's reversible I'm updating to the new bootloader ASAP, I really dig the MJ7 LTE modem
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Yes in order to be sure, I think you should try to reflash an old bootloader to see if the flag will be set again to 0x1. If not...

How should he do that? With a JTAG?
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Hmmm I'm going to be checking back on this.

@galnet rather than just posting a picture it would be much more progressive for you to document your research, findings, techniques/methods, seeing as how that's most in the spirit of xda.

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@galnet rather than just posting a picture it would be much more progressive for you to document your research, findings, techniques/methods, seeing as how that's most in the spirit of xda.
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Would you release information which you knew could brick peoples phones, because you do know that anything that is printed here, people will go try and then come back crying..
I've known in the past this occurring, and god don't start about the XDA way, the XDA way is still the reason why I don't say much now a days!

galnet said:
Would you release information which you knew could brick peoples phones, because you do know that anything that is printed here, people will go try and then come back crying..
I've known in the past this occurring, and god don't start about the XDA way, the XDA way is still the reason why I don't say much now a days!
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That's why put a big "DEV" or "R&D" tag in the title, and stick it in the developers only section. If anyone has issues as a result of it afterward, you can't say you didn't warn them.
As with many things in life, I'm sure the benefits would outweigh the costs if you simply shared your work.
Of course, in the end it's your choice and no one can force you to do anything.
But realize that there are other ways to go about this. A private hangout for example, or G+ community, or something like that. I simply think discussion would be beneficial.

Just got my Note 3!!

Picked up my new Note 3 today.
Oh so cool!!!!!!
Sorry, really excited
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Grats... just that we're not that lucky to get that model in india we have only N9000 note 3. But nonetheless grats again n enjoy
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Congrats and enjoy. Make sure to look on the forum and YouTube to learn what the phone can really do.
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congrats!! I got mine 1 week ago, very happy with it, not a single complain, everything as good ss expected, nice screen, good sound, long lasting battery, quick and nimble responses, as a bonus, the screen is very grease resistant, my former phone was a S3, I had to clean it several times a day, the note 3 barely shows any fingerprint, Im very happy with this phone

All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....

stanley08 said:
All is well and good until Samsung's new annoying security features start haunting you! Lol! Note 3 is Awesome, But sadly, it could be my Last Samsung Phone....
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Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?

Ramsey said:
Looking to buy this phone but not sure what you mean by the new annoying security features? Can you explain, please ?
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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)

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Samsung KNOX - http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/10/22/samsung-knox/
Basically if you trigger KNOX by flashing custom ROM's or rooting via a certain way you Void your warranty.
Plus it suffers from REGION LOCK which means you cannot use outside of the region you buy it in unless it has been deactivated, or bypassed. (Note: some don't have region lock on them)
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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Has anyone installed the knox browser and used it? What is the point in it?
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It's just a secure container, mainly designed for business use and IT Managers and such. It can put data on a secure part of the phone also which no one can access except you. If you are rooted, your KNOX becomes void, therefore secure container can no longer be guaranteed secure.

I did not recive mine N9005 yet, so I dont know which rom on it
but I read that flashing or rooting will void the warranty, with my old note 1 flashing the stock rom will return device to official state, is it the same with note 3?

congrats on ur note 3! have fun! make sure u explore and find just how useful and awesome the s pen and the features made for it are!
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@radicalisto said it all!

Thanks guys! by the way, I'll be in Canada soon and I'll probably get it there. Can I still root it safely or that will void warranty? Is it better to buy one that is unlocked already?

Thanks for the replies everyone. Been loving it, don't feel the need to root it yet is awesome stock.
Gonna watch a few videos and see if I can find some cool tips or tricks.
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Just got my note 3 yesterday from Verizon I traded my nexus 4 in and only paid $95 for it.
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[Q] Should I root my Moto G?

I've just received my fresh new Moto G, and I've been having second thoughts on rooting it. Can anyone convince me on whether or not I should root my phone, thanks!

I voted yes.
But to be honest, you should know for yourself. Do you need root? If not I wouldn't consider rooting. If you don't know, read about what you can do with root!
If you want to root, have a look at the guides and tutorials collection in the Moto G General forum.
If you decided to root, but you have problems (not working): Visit the Modaco Forum Modaco Forum and the topics of PaulOBrien. You'll find more up2date information on his rooting methods there. If you try with superboot, see my post on page 7 in the modaco forum if you have problems.
Happy tinkering

I purchased the International version for a friend of mine who is not technically savvy. I set up the phone and noticed that there was very little customization and bloatware; therefore, I decided to go without root.
As was mentioned a the previous post, you should ask yourself why you need root. If you can't get what you want without root, go ahead and root it.

I'd do it, but I wouldn't bother with custom ROMs when they start to become more abundant for this phone. The software on the Moto G is so close to stock that it's not really worth changing. Root, on the other hand, is pretty nice if only for installing AdAway. I did it pretty much solely for this purpose on the new Moto G I got for my dad's birthday because I know he's not very tech savvy and would likely click on one of the ads in a free version of an app.

Yes....you should only root if any of the above things interest you....if you have a specific reason to root. Otherwise why root.
And a question for you..........should I eat this tuna sandwich?
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@kj2112
Maybe, if you're hungry?
Sorry for ot^^

Wait at least 2 weeks to know if you have a defective phone or not, if in 2 weeks you got no problems then consider Root.
Check: screen, camera, USB , Battery...ETC

I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.

So far i have rooted for the following reasons -
Titanium Backup
Xposed Framework
AdFree
Plus it also gives some antivirus software more features/control.
I say if aren't looking to use particular app that needs Root then don't bother.

I voted Yes even though I haven't rooted it yet (because I have to thoroughly test screen, camera, usb battery), here is why:
- Titanium Backup,
- AdFree
- Tasker
- disabling carier
- adding extra fonts
- adding my locale
- ...other screen tweaks that can't be achieved with non root devices

theoneofgod said:
I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.
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Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).

Thanks for the suggestions guys, I think I'll try to keep it away from root for like a week. Coming from HTC One X, I really miss having AdAway, Xposed, tinted Status Bar, Greenify, and I'm curious to try that MotoGuide and GravityBox though.
Yeah, I'm not gonna do custom ROMs yet, just thinking of rooting it only.

ksuuk said:
Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).
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What can't you disable?

theoneofgod said:
What can't you disable?
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Stuff like:
com.android.xxx
com.motorola.xxx
com.qualcomm.xxx
Motorola Assist Framework
Morotola Notification
Motorola Services
MotoCare
ModemStatsService
Emergency Alerts
Rescue Ass-On
Motorola ID
LocationServices
Google Backup Transport
FMRadioService
DMService
Demo mode
etc

If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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gee2012 said:
If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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Best answer yet I think!

I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.

monchee said:
I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.
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Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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twister99403 said:
Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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kj2112 said:
Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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I should of been more clear no, rooting does not lead to that but if you go into the realm anything a little experimental or even running Roms like CM you are more than likely going to have issues where you can't always just pick up your phone and not worry about anything. I used to be the flashaholic that flashed Roms and tinkered constantly but if you actually have a life, job, kids you run out of time to deal with that. So, all I'm saying is decide what's more important
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Root ever going to be available?

I've been stuck on the note 4 for Verizon without full root after 10 months. Will this ever get root and unlocked bootloader?
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Ummm... are you referring to your Note 4 or the new Note 5? People only just started receiving them yesterday (myself included), so it'll take time for any root/unlocking stuff to come about if it'll be possible.

Talking about the note 5. Just wondering if anyone heard of Verizon locking it down in a similar fashion.
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Honestly, with Samsung and Verizon...just assume that root will never be available. It likely won't, but if it is..it's just a bonus.
Regardless, it's way too early to tell.

If root is important to you, DON'T BUY A PHONE UNTIL ROOT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.
EVER.
These days root is not guaranteed. And in some cases even if you get 'root', you can't write to the system partition without an unlocked bootloader to change out the kernel, severely gimping what many want root for on the first place.

JasonJoel said:
If root is important to you, DON'T BUY A PHONE UNTIL ROOT IS ALREADY AVAILABLE.
EVER.
These days root is not guaranteed. And in some cases even if you get 'root', you can't write to the system partition without an unlocked bootloader to change out the kernel, severely gimping what many want root for on the first place.
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Very true. I purchased the Note 5 because I like the phone. Root would be nice but it won't break my heart if it doesn't come. The S6 had root but it didn't last long if you like to stay up to date on the software. Samsung and Verizon locked these phones up pretty tight where even just flashing the modem will cause you to have to flash the whole update and loose root. I'm not holding my breath for root.

Probably Yes in the future but not right away. So i decided to talk to a Samsung customer service representative to ask weather the bootloader would be unlocked on Verizon note 5. It took me 20 whole minutes just to find that out bumped into a such a stupid representative on the live chat

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Probably Yes in the future but not right away. So i decided to talk to a Samsung customer service representative to ask weather the bootloader would be unlocked on Verizon note 5. It took me 20 whole minutes just to find that out bumped into a such a stupid representative on the live chat
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dont know why you even tried that. a fly is smarter then their chat reps

Exactly! I guess someone was brave enough to ask... I'd give it about 6 months until root comes out. In the keantime, this phone is pretty awesome.
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This is one of the reasons I stopped using samsung phones.

AthruZ79 said:
Exactly! I guess someone was brave enough to ask... I'd give it about 6 months until root comes out. In the keantime, this phone is pretty awesome.
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I'd be shocked if it ever gets root. Almost a year later note 4 still isn't

oneandroidnut said:
I'd be shocked if it ever gets root. Almost a year later note 4 still isn't
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I was just being optimistic. Lol
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+1
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That's right bro lol you got my back haha

It be nice.. went from note 2 to the 5. Had a lot of problems with Verizon trying to lock it down. Ended up rooting a building my own rom. Hopefully someone is working on it
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From what I read if rooted Knox 5 will lock the phone down...on Verizon and att only. Root looked to be done already on other carriers. Something in Knox 5 called "Root of trust"
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Yeah.. if that's the way verizon and Samsung want to play the game.. They can go the way of the dodo bird.
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Jacob11701 said:
From what I read if rooted Knox 5 will lock the phone down...on Verizon and att only. Root looked to be done already on other carriers. Something in Knox 5 called "Root of trust"
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I am ignorant on this, but if ALL the Knox software is disabled how could Knox be tripped? Anything related it Knox, I have disabled using Debloater. I am a Windows guy, and when a service is disabled it is not running but the software is still present. Wouldn't it be the same on android and Verizon/Samsung bastardization of android? Baby steps I know, but wouldn't that also leave the possibility of Root more likely then knowing Knox wont screw the phone?

The last time I used root was on the s3 and that was about it. Note 5 not needed. Even the bloatware doesnt bother me. Disabled/uninstall most of them. Phone is smooth as butter, for now at least.

darksidesh007 said:
I am ignorant on this, but if ALL the Knox software is disabled how could Knox be tripped? Anything related it Knox, I have disabled using Debloater. I am a Windows guy, and when a service is disabled it is not running but the software is still present. Wouldn't it be the same on android and Verizon/Samsung bastardization of android? Baby steps I know, but wouldn't that also leave the possibility of Root more likely then knowing Knox wont screw the phone?
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I would like to think this is true but with the way they control the phone I doubt Samsung doesn't have it programmed in the startup to check
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Is a root method without tripping knox feisable?

I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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Goddly said:
Would be nice, but. Samsung pay isn't working for me on any card I have. So I'm about to pull the trigger on Knox , and get new recovery and flash deodex rom.
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It only works for Bank of America or US Bank cards now I believe although there is support for Amex, Visa and Mastercard. They will probably be up and running once Samsung Pay is officially launched on the 28th. I can tell you this. Samsung Pay is a battery hog. It runs all the time unlike Google Wallet that you open when you need it. And the way you unlock your phone is tied into Samsung Pay. For example, if you select fingerprint scanner for Samsung Pay it automatically becomes the lockscreen default to unlock the phone. So if you want a pattern to unlock your phone you have to change it in Samsung Pay to unlock the device. You can't have both. Well at least when I tried you couldn't. LoL

I dont think enough devs have a note 5, i would guess something may come out of another phone maybe and translate over. I'm in the same boat, my n3 was rooted right away once I was convinced sprint wasnt going to deny a warranty claim over knox. I'm kinda holding out for s pay, but if it sounds like a bunch of brain damage....
Actually just thought of something, I use drive through and eat at bars and restaurants a lot, not keen on handing my phone to someone, probably gonna pass on s pay...

juvenile43 said:
I know i may get some slack for this post but is it realistically possible that someone could find a root method that doesnt trip knox. My last device was a note 3 so i havent followed whether the s5, note 4 or s6 have acheived this. I like the idea of samsung pay (even though im in the beta and it doesnt work with my car) and im hoping it works with my card once the app is public. I cant live with a phone that cant run a custom rom but if i at least have root i feel like i could manage. So am i just being stupid and say screw samsung pay or is their a real possiblity that someone could find root without the knox trip.
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check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.

TheCyberpunk said:
check out king root. I've recently seen a post and it claims to not trip Knox.
You may want to search xda.
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That would be amazing. Thanks for the heads up. I looked through a couple pages of the kingroot main thread and couldnt find anything. Will keep searching.
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Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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Also offering 20 bux to developer for root method that don't trip Knox on 5.1.1 sprint s6 edge plus

I actually have many compatible Samsung Pay cards and am enjoying the service... really don't want to lose it. Hopefully someone comes up with something.

Don't think it will ever happen!!!!!!

My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????

Allaboutthemoney said:
My money is burning a whole in my pocket waiting to be sent to the person that successfully obtains permanent root WITHOUT tripping the dreadful knox! $10 $20 $30 $40????
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Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen

Chaz187 said:
Better keep your money don't think it will ever happen
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https://youtu.be/ddsZTFSfXaw

juvenile43 said:
Im guessing no one else has found any data to support this. I would assume someone would be talking about it by now....but, it seems development is kinda slow (absolutely no disrespect intended) or the possiblity is people who want root are not concerned about knox so there hasnt been alot of interest. From what i can tell though is kingroot was for earlier devices and doesnt even work on an updated note 4 let alone a 5. Someone tell me im wrong. Im offereing 20 bucks for a root method. lol i know thats weak but maybe other people will join me. Thanks to anyone that looks into this.
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I have a T567V Verizon tab E that is a Farley new device and although king root said it didn't have a root method I was able to continue and get root on a Verizon without tripping Knox so see no reason it would on the note 5

Tried it and it seems it does not work. Seemed to good to be true
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why not just trip the knox and use google pay or other services out there? for me rooting and being able to customize and overclock is the priority than samsung pay..ill just use google pay instead

Having to switch kernals everytime i need to use gearvr is whats kinda stopping me. Also i thought android pay now detects all root even "systemless"
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