I've just received my fresh new Moto G, and I've been having second thoughts on rooting it. Can anyone convince me on whether or not I should root my phone, thanks!
I voted yes.
But to be honest, you should know for yourself. Do you need root? If not I wouldn't consider rooting. If you don't know, read about what you can do with root!
If you want to root, have a look at the guides and tutorials collection in the Moto G General forum.
If you decided to root, but you have problems (not working): Visit the Modaco Forum Modaco Forum and the topics of PaulOBrien. You'll find more up2date information on his rooting methods there. If you try with superboot, see my post on page 7 in the modaco forum if you have problems.
Happy tinkering
I purchased the International version for a friend of mine who is not technically savvy. I set up the phone and noticed that there was very little customization and bloatware; therefore, I decided to go without root.
As was mentioned a the previous post, you should ask yourself why you need root. If you can't get what you want without root, go ahead and root it.
I'd do it, but I wouldn't bother with custom ROMs when they start to become more abundant for this phone. The software on the Moto G is so close to stock that it's not really worth changing. Root, on the other hand, is pretty nice if only for installing AdAway. I did it pretty much solely for this purpose on the new Moto G I got for my dad's birthday because I know he's not very tech savvy and would likely click on one of the ads in a free version of an app.
Yes....you should only root if any of the above things interest you....if you have a specific reason to root. Otherwise why root.
And a question for you..........should I eat this tuna sandwich?
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Maybe, if you're hungry?
Sorry for ot^^
Wait at least 2 weeks to know if you have a defective phone or not, if in 2 weeks you got no problems then consider Root.
Check: screen, camera, USB , Battery...ETC
I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.
So far i have rooted for the following reasons -
Titanium Backup
Xposed Framework
AdFree
Plus it also gives some antivirus software more features/control.
I say if aren't looking to use particular app that needs Root then don't bother.
I voted Yes even though I haven't rooted it yet (because I have to thoroughly test screen, camera, usb battery), here is why:
- Titanium Backup,
- AdFree
- Tasker
- disabling carier
- adding extra fonts
- adding my locale
- ...other screen tweaks that can't be achieved with non root devices
theoneofgod said:
I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.
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Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I think I'll try to keep it away from root for like a week. Coming from HTC One X, I really miss having AdAway, Xposed, tinted Status Bar, Greenify, and I'm curious to try that MotoGuide and GravityBox though.
Yeah, I'm not gonna do custom ROMs yet, just thinking of rooting it only.
ksuuk said:
Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).
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What can't you disable?
theoneofgod said:
What can't you disable?
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Stuff like:
com.android.xxx
com.motorola.xxx
com.qualcomm.xxx
Motorola Assist Framework
Morotola Notification
Motorola Services
MotoCare
ModemStatsService
Emergency Alerts
Rescue Ass-On
Motorola ID
LocationServices
Google Backup Transport
FMRadioService
DMService
Demo mode
etc
If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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gee2012 said:
If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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Best answer yet I think!
I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.
monchee said:
I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.
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Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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twister99403 said:
Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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kj2112 said:
Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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I should of been more clear no, rooting does not lead to that but if you go into the realm anything a little experimental or even running Roms like CM you are more than likely going to have issues where you can't always just pick up your phone and not worry about anything. I used to be the flashaholic that flashed Roms and tinkered constantly but if you actually have a life, job, kids you run out of time to deal with that. So, all I'm saying is decide what's more important
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I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
Honestly, the only advantage root has vs unrooted so far as this phone goes is the complete removal of bloatware vs disabling it all. You can still disable any and all bloatware by holding the app int he app drawer, opening the app info, uninstall any updates if the option is present, then ultimately disable the junk. This will stop from phone resources being used to crapware on your phone, and will also help with the speed the phone, and of rebooting if you need to.
Lacking root, you're unable to utilize something like GravityBox to give little tweaks to your phone (one I'm fond of being the "Clear All" button in the recent apps drawer) or the Xposed Installer. Not the end of the world; GravityBox and Xposed doesn't have much outside of small quality of life tweaks for your phone. You'll live.
You are still able to install APK's from unknown sources. You are still able to use Nova Launcher to replace the disgusting Verizon phone icons (Phone, SMS, Contacts, Camera, etc) with stick KitKat icons. In fact, Nova Launcher can make your home screen and app launcher look and feel like KitKat. It's honestly very close to having KitKat itself.
Google Now is still very strong, even without the "always listening" from the home screen. My phone is rooted, but I have made no changes that would affect or enhance Google Now simply because I haven't felt the need. Mentioned above, disabling a bunch of crapware that Verizon puked onto this phone might have unforeseen performance benefits. Do your best.
Otherwise, I - like you - am eagerly awaiting KitKat to land on our phones. Having run CyanogenMod, XenonHD, BeanStalk, it's blatantly obvious that this phone is more than capable of handling KitKat without stutter. With Motorola opening their eyes about unlocked bootloaders, one can hope that after KitKat, custom ROMs will also be ported to the RAZR without all this stupid bootloader fuss.
Thank you for playing the waiting game with me.
Try out this launcher.
Be sure and choose "just once" when choosing it as home!!
A hit of home will allow the blur home back.
A safe boot will fix if you mess up, btw.
That is until you are sure it works.
Screen shots
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2165979&d=1375681495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2165985&d=1375681521
I actually use Nova Prime. It has really given me some fresh air into my phone. I also love that they make your phone look closer to kit kat.
My main desire for a root is the chance to try out a kit kat ROM, due to the fact that it has such a low RAM requirement.
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FancyPants91 said:
I actually use Nova Prime. It has really given me some fresh air into my phone. I also love that they make your phone look closer to kit kat.
My main desire for a root is the chance to try out a kit kat ROM, due to the fact that it has such a low RAM requirement.
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The 4.4 ROMs require an unlocked bootloader, so root wouldn't really help you out there.
RikRong said:
The 4.4 ROMs require an unlocked bootloader, so root wouldn't really help you out there.
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What he said. You're already in a spot where you cannot root.
You need root, but cannot root.
You need and unlocked bootloader to flash a rom, but you need to root first. Since you're on 9.30, you absolutely cannot root or unlock yet.
FancyPants91 said:
I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
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Try using Nova Launcher. Its pretty fast. Also try Power Widgets from play store.
If you like stock one then don't put too many icons and widgets on home screens. You can also try to disable animations in developers options.
If you are using Chrome turn the sync off. I find it to be more responsive that way. Google now can be slow because of search history. Try cleaning up a little bit. :good:
I disabled Google Now since I never need it and it smooths out the phone a bunch. Google Now bogs this phone down. Try it!
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FancyPants91 said:
I am not the only one on this topic. I have come to a conclusion that my device (Razr maxx HD 9.30.1.XT926) won't be getting any root. Alright, what is next? What sorts of recommendations do you guys have to improve my phone? Faster Google Now response, tips and tricks? Anything to hold off till the unscheduled (at least to the public) 4.4 update.
Thanks!
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Guess what! Hell must have frozen over because those with locked devices can now root on the latest OTA.
Go here to reroot your devices -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Happy days for people with locked devices.
iBolski said:
Guess what! Hell must have frozen over because those with locked devices can now root on the latest OTA.
Go here to reroot your devices -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Happy days for people with locked devices.
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This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
jewbydoo said:
This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
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Screenshots here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49241975&postcount=3
This amazing. I will definitely be spending my night doing this! Thank you for the heads up!
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jewbydoo said:
This looks promising! People within the thread are noting success. It's a bit iffy since there are no screenshots. but I don't have reason beyond that to doubt this too will work. No harm in trying I feel.
Up until now, I had simply been denying the "Update" popup until 4.4 came around. This sounds like a welcome fix!
I'll try and report results when I get off work later today.
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I can't attest that it works because my phone is unlocked, so I don't have to resort to exploits, but I've ready numerous threads that state it works. It's using an exploit within the Linux Kernel.
Sorry folks, I've been running into a snag.
I tried to apply the 9.30 update, but it doesn't take. Preliminary Googling tells me that because I've already rooted the phone, I need to flash it back to complete stock through RSD Lite or something of the sort. The internet tells me that a simple factory reset doesn't do it.
So I either do flash it back to stock, or I wait (sigh) until 4.4 comes out for the razr hd.
jewbydoo said:
Sorry folks, I've been running into a snag.
I tried to apply the 9.30 update, but it doesn't take. Preliminary Googling tells me that because I've already rooted the phone, I need to flash it back to complete stock through RSD Lite or something of the sort. The internet tells me that a simple factory reset doesn't do it.
So I either do flash it back to stock, or I wait (sigh) until 4.4 comes out for the razr hd.
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You must use voodoo to unroot during the ota process. Then you will not need the new root exploit...
See my stickys for voodoo. You must get SS off your HD too.
aviwdoowks said:
You must use voodoo to unroot during the ota process. Then you will not need the new root exploit...
See my stickys for voodoo. You must get SS off your HD too.
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Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
jewbydoo said:
Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
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My signature/recovery goodies/ 1/4 down
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jewbydoo said:
Thanks for the tip. Mind linking the sticky you're referring to? I'm digging through your posts and I'm not seeing it...
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You must not be using a phone browser. Tapatalk & the like really are poor! Get Maxthon HD browser, more info in goodies too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
aviwdoowks said:
My signature/recovery goodies/ 1/4 down
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You must not be using a phone browser. Tapatalk & the like really are poor! Get Maxthon HD browser, more info in goodies too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2327340
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Thanks again for the help. I was using my computer actually, just me being blind I guess.
You mentioned that "SS" must not be on my phone. Could you clarify what you meant?
jewbydoo said:
Thanks again for the help. I was using my computer actually, just me being blind I guess.
You mentioned that "SS" must not be on my phone. Could you clarify what you meant?
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Just good guess on my part, never confirmed that it's presence will bork the ota but you would be wise to unenable it reboot & uninstall it.
aviwdoowks said:
Just good guess on my part, never confirmed that it's presence will bork the ota but you would be wise to unenable it reboot & uninstall it.
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I'm asking what "SS" is. SuperSU?
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
jcnbama said:
I don't want to get into a whole debate about root but I am coming from the G3 and previously had the G2. I had both of these rooted with excellent Cloudy stock Roms.
It is my goal to live without root on this phone. It seems to run great, has enough ram and battery to handle lost background apps with little to almost zero lag. I am just kinda tired of the TWRP, ROOT, TB, Flashing lifestyle... Lol. Been doin it since the HD2.
However I did not discover until yesterday while using the phone unrooted that Dual Window is only limited to a handful of apps. I guess with the rooted Roms the mod for other apps was already in place so I never noticed. I honestly gotta say that's pretty terrible. I don't understand the thought process behind why LG would limit such a strong multitasking feature. I personally used it to balance my checkbook beside my bank app. SUPER EASY! Now this kind of sucks. It might be enough to make me root it. I am trying the ad block thing I found in another post but this dual window thing is a FAIL without root IMHO.
Otherwise this is a bad ass phone. I am loving it.
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There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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mgbotoe said:
There is always that TINY reason to root lol
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Yep
Yep... And this is the first phone I tried to go without Titanium Backup... How do people live like this?!?! Lol... I guess we'll see.... What I'd like to see is the manufacturers just do stuff like that on their own.....
Samsung, the creators of multi-window, have a restrictive list too. I never bypassed it though. Kind of annoying. They've had it for years too.
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Might try once I get home what app you suggest?
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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Hooooly crap that's alot of work to have something as simple as dual window support. What happens when the app updates? Does that change anything?
Again this just goes back to manufacturers just taking care of their customer base. This should be a non-issue.... Maybe I'll fool around with this at some point but honestly just rooting will probably be easier and provide more overall benefits once it is accomplished (which I would imagine would be sooner rather than later.) I'm always willing to donate for developers hard work. Definitely worth it.
Thanks for sharing this friend!
It's not as bad as it looks tbh. Once you become familiar it's a fairly quick process.
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Bootup said:
But...umm..you can add any app you want to dual window without root
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3pw4oq/how_to_add_dual_window_support_to_any_app_no_root/
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I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
Triavius said:
I've used this on a few apps and it works great. Took a little bit of time to figure it out the first app (I have zero experience with this type of thing), but after that it went pretty quick.
I just verified it with some apps I edited for my G3 that it works fine on the fancy new V10.
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Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
jcnbama said:
Maybe I will give it a try. It seems intimidating but perhaps it's not. What happens if an app updates via the Play store? Does it overwrite your changes?
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Hah, I've got no idea honestly. That reddit thread that was posted isn't too old; I haven't had any of the apps I messed with updated yet.
Hi,everybody .I try to sign FM Cube to dual window and it is work great but when I try to do the same with Waze it show me error when I try to build apk back.
Can anybody help me with that ? And also I did a Google Map but can not install on my phone because the original one is a system app.
I just got a note 5 on sprint and I love it, but I'm really not sure if I want to root. Every device since I got my Samsung moment has been rooted (htc evo 4g lte, s3,s5 for the day I had it, and then the g3). Anyways, my question is losing Samsung pay worth rooting? I mean I love all the things I can do with root, I just wanna know what everyone's opinion is, so I can weigh pros and cons of rooting.
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***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
954wrecker said:
***get any available promotions before you root***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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On that note, I can't get the $200 promotion to work... But what other promotions are there?
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Nevermind, turns out it was my Internet not uploading my receipt... So i did it on lte, and it was fine
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What's the $200 promo can someone share?
NotLinusTorvalds said:
What's the $200 promo can someone share?
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https://samsungpromotions.com/celebratefootball/Mobile
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I'm waiting on my promotions to go through, once they do, this thing is getting root treatment
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how to root
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks
Antrock23 said:
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks
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There is a thread on it here over in the general forum.
You need to use ODIN to flash TWRP and then flash a custom kernel, or just flash TWRP with ODIN and then flash a custom ROM. They are already rooted.
954wrecker said:
***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?
clockedtouch said:
Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?
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How often does anyone go out without your keys and wallet and drivers license. I mean really, I used it a bunch when I went jogging, but it's not 100%. The first time it didn't work I luckily had my wallet and my regular card swiped just fine. I rooted my phone the second I got home that day.
It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.
I stayed stock for exactly 4 weeks and used samsung pay a few times a day with 5 different credit cards. I've been rooted for the past 3 months and i do NOT miss samsung pay at all. I reap the benefits of root all day everyday because of the amazing ROM dev @tdunham and the amazing KERNEL dev @UpInTheAir.
travisw0204 said:
It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.
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Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?
clockedtouch said:
Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?
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No. I usually just remove the stuff I know about like Nascar, Ebay, etc. The system apps I disable are usually like the Calculator, Picasa maybe and a couple other things.
still waiting for my promos to go through, once they do, im gonna root it
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
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IMHO, the main purpose for rooting is to boost the device security and privacy: to stop google, facebook et al. from spying on you.
I will root mine too, so i can use AFWall+, ADBlock, Tasker and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
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I've found that the best way to satisfy my rooting urges these days is to keep a stock Pixel handy and a Nexus 5x for rooting goodness. These other phones (be it Samsung, LG, HTC) I am now leaving completely stock and will enjoy them for what they are. Other than light debloating and an occasional launcher change, there just isn't the desire anymore to root these and ROM them up.
I'm on the T-Mobile JOD plan, and for those of you that also happen to be...it has come to light that T-Mobile doesn't have a way of tracking whether or not customers are using only 3 JOD's a year in their database. MEANING, you can theoretically jump into a new (or the same phone if you have issues w/ your current JOD phone) every 30 days if your heart desires. I jumped from the LG v20 to the dreaded iPhone 7plus within a 45 day timeframe while waiting on the s8+ release. I plan to hold onto it until the upcoming Note release, buttttttttt I guess it depends what else is released in the interim!
To think that you can stop Google or Facebook from spying on you with root is humorous, they don't care about you, unless you're in some terrorist group or something... There's a no-root adblocker for Samsung called Adhell, it works through modifying Knox, no VPNs, and works as well as any root adblocker. The S8 also has a built-in DAC that lets you modify sound settings like Viper
Annie the Eagle said:
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
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All I need is viper4android but I'm on tmobile and when I rooted my s7e it was never the same so with that being said my note 4 is rooted with all that I need for listening to loud tunes or podcasts for work... and I'll be keeping my s8+ unrooted because it's just too smooth and lag free for me at the moment hoping it doesn't crap out in a couple months....
The reason I was going to root was so I could force the phone into LTE only mode, but the 4G switcher app works and does that so now I don't really have a need for root!
Rooting mainly for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root. Being able to do per apps settings for full screen, battery/performance, timeout and hw buttons.
I guess bixby button remapping would be another reason for root.
Except for this it looks like there's not that many more reasons to root anymore..:
Adhell and Adblock plugin for Sammy browser should take care of advertisemens and as sound settings and other functions in the ROM seems very good this year, so I'm not too bummed out if root doesn't happen.
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Always prefer XDA and Root ftw!
I pretty much stopped flashing different roms when I got my note 4, not that I had a huge choice since root came late. But when I did flash a ton, it was just a stock debloated and tweaked one.
But my number one reason for root is ad blocking. I absolutely hate ads. So I really only want to root my new s8+ so I can run ad block and install xposed to get the YouTube adblocker.
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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Perhaps they dont have snapdragons....
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
cpufrost said:
An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
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try bixremap it launches bixby then a mili sec later opens google now , you just need to undisable bixby from package disabler first
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How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
saifullah90 said:
well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
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I HAVE to have Viper. Android should buy V4a and have it as a stock feature on all their phones.
Eddiemc said:
...for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root....
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I wont be rooting because Verizon. that's why
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S7e boot was locked but we all rooted anyway different root from the norm tho....
I used to be a crack flasher all the way back to the original SGN. It slowed down when I got the 5T. Only rooted the 6 but never did root the 6T but I did unlock the bootloader.
With the 7 Pro I feel no need to unlock the bootloader or even think about root. Is this just due to Android getting better or something else?
I was on the fence but ended up rooting mainly for the VPN-less adblocking.
Yes
For,
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Tasker & Tasker Plugins
YouTube Vanced
Custom text, alarm and ringtones (removing stock and replacing with custom in /system/media/audio/)
Custom boot animations
Custom fonts
iOS emojis
Renovate Magisk ROM
Substratum for themeing
Dolby Digital Plus
SysConfig Patcher
The way I look at it now is you can not do certain things without root. Thats reason enough.
There is really nothing you cannot do with root (that you can do unrooted)
miffymiffy said:
The way I look at it now is you can not do certain things without root. Thats reason enough.
There is really nothing you cannot do with root (that you can do unrooted)
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Except take every Google Pay update not worried about whether it's going to work or not...lol
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Except take every Google Pay update not worried about whether it's going to work or not...lol
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Google Pay isn't what breaks it's Google play services that will block your card use. I update google pay the second it says there's an update and I never once had an issue with root and google or Samsung pay for that matter (Gear S3 Frontier)
Eric214 said:
Google Pay isn't what breaks it's Google play services that will block your card use. I update google pay the second it says there's an update and I never once had an issue with root and google or Samsung pay for that matter (Gear S3 Frontier)
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Ok, then Google Play services.
Netflix hd playback too
Yeah definitely. I really need Xposed Edge for the gestures. I have assigned 12 functions amongst the four edges which works wonders on this already super fast phone.
Exi for Swiftkey, for far easier and quicker typing.
ChromePie, easier to access various options.
Minminguard, in-app ad blocking.
Adaway.
GravityBox, for finer tweaking of ROM.
Titanium Backup.
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YouTube Vanced
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You don't need root for that really.
Have always rooted my phones since 2009, but this is the first where I haven't rooted (yet). Normally I'd root a new phone within 10 minutes after receiving it. But this phone pretty much has it all so no need to root (yet). Only thing I miss is a complete dark theme. OPs strategy with only theming about 70% of the interface is odd, but I hope that Android Q will fix that once it's officially released for this phone.
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Have always rooted my phones since 2009, but this is the first where I haven't rooted (yet). Normally I'd root a new phone within 10 minutes after receiving it. But this phone pretty much has it all so no need to root (yet). Only thing I miss is a complete dark theme. OPs strategy with only theming about 70% of the interface is odd, but I hope that Android Q will fix that once it's officially released for this phone.
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Same as you. Sometimes I rooted my new phones even before a complete boot cycle! But with the OP7P I guess I don't feel the need to do it.
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You don't need root for that really.
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Seems like it's installed the easiest and most seamless with root though.
Regardless, there are several other reasons I mentioned I use root for, so why not just install YouTube Vanced with root as well
I'm on the fence myself. I do miss Substratum, but afraid to lose Netflix HD permanently and i had issues with SPay not working on my Pixel 3 XL after rooting. Not sure what i want to do......
Been rooting my phones since my first Android and the OG Droid Motorola A855. I doubt you may find too many members here that will vote the last question of your poll, since this site has become THE place for those who want to root and ROM.
For me it's:
Titanium
Ad Away
Renovate
and whatever other reason I feel like. I received my 7 Pro, charged the battery and the only reason I booted it to system was to get developers options and OK the oem unlocking. Didn't even sign it in on first boot.
I finally rooted a few days ago. Basic root is easy. EdXposed and gravity box and that kind of stuff you need to pay attention to a bit more unless you've done it before (which i have not)
Life begins after root! Google pay and Samsung pa works without issues on OP 7 Pro. Just hide Magisk from all google and Samsung apps (if using a Gear S3 like I am)
I find that I need it for my personal needs/wants due to Swift installer support and native call recording. Plus having TB to uninstall some system apps that I don't want/need is also a plus.
Personally, I don't need root do much. But I do need magisk and modules as well as magisk ROMs. Everything else is a plus.
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