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Thoughts on rooting this bad boy

I just got a note 5 on sprint and I love it, but I'm really not sure if I want to root. Every device since I got my Samsung moment has been rooted (htc evo 4g lte, s3,s5 for the day I had it, and then the g3). Anyways, my question is losing Samsung pay worth rooting? I mean I love all the things I can do with root, I just wanna know what everyone's opinion is, so I can weigh pros and cons of rooting.
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***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever

954wrecker said:
***get any available promotions before you root***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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On that note, I can't get the $200 promotion to work... But what other promotions are there?
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Nevermind, turns out it was my Internet not uploading my receipt... So i did it on lte, and it was fine
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What's the $200 promo can someone share?

NotLinusTorvalds said:
What's the $200 promo can someone share?
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https://samsungpromotions.com/celebratefootball/Mobile
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I'm waiting on my promotions to go through, once they do, this thing is getting root treatment
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how to root
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks

Antrock23 said:
does anyone know how to root the sprint note 5. looking for a way thats the easiest and wont brick my phone. thanks
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There is a thread on it here over in the general forum.
You need to use ODIN to flash TWRP and then flash a custom kernel, or just flash TWRP with ODIN and then flash a custom ROM. They are already rooted.

954wrecker said:
***get any available promotions before you root. I only got the free charger promo back in September***
-Root is useful all day everyday
-Samsung Pay is slightly useful at most a few times a day if ever
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Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?

clockedtouch said:
Why do you say Samsung Pay is only slightly worth it?
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How often does anyone go out without your keys and wallet and drivers license. I mean really, I used it a bunch when I went jogging, but it's not 100%. The first time it didn't work I luckily had my wallet and my regular card swiped just fine. I rooted my phone the second I got home that day.

It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.

I stayed stock for exactly 4 weeks and used samsung pay a few times a day with 5 different credit cards. I've been rooted for the past 3 months and i do NOT miss samsung pay at all. I reap the benefits of root all day everyday because of the amazing ROM dev @tdunham and the amazing KERNEL dev @UpInTheAir.

travisw0204 said:
It's totally up to the user to root if need be. I, however, chose not to root this phone only because everything I needed root for I can accomplish without it whilst keeping Samsung Pay and Android Pay intact. I use the latter more than the previous so root is a no go for me based on that. However, I've tried Samsung Pay a few times and it worked with no issues. You just have to ask yourself what exactly do I need root for? These were my needs for root and the fixes I found to accomplish what I needed without rooting:
Camera Shutter Sound fix( Enforced Stream Silencer app)
Hotspot Mod( APN Settings mod. Need MSL # for this which can be gotten through Sprint Chat)
Ad Remover( AdGuard Premium App)
APK Backups/Restore( App Backup and Restore app)
System UI Backup( Smart Switch on PC)
Bloatware Removal/System App Disabler( Package Disabler Pro)
Add any app to MW( MW- Pen App Enabler Pro)
Themes( Samsung Theme Store)
These can all be achieved without root. More importantly, everything works as it should and when you need it to work without getting the dreaded FC and doing trial and error to fix it. If the Pros outweigh the Cons then do it. If not, don't root.
I honestly don't miss it. I have more time to spend with my family and not trying to find what a developer took out to make a feature of the phone work. I get updates on time without waiting for a rooted rom to be posted. I'm not trolling XDA or any other blog seeing when the next update is to whatever rom I'm using to see if hopefully the issues I had with the rom were addressed with the new build. Do I miss root? Sometimes. But ultimately I'm glad I didn't root. This was my choice. As I said, everyone is different. You have to do what works for you. I love that I have full functionality of my phone and confidence knowing if I try a feature it will work as advertised.
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Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?

clockedtouch said:
Thanks for your insight, is there a bloatware List that you referenced?
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No. I usually just remove the stuff I know about like Nascar, Ebay, etc. The system apps I disable are usually like the Calculator, Picasa maybe and a couple other things.

still waiting for my promos to go through, once they do, im gonna root it

Second thoughts on my T-Mobile S8 Plus Order

My S8 Plus should arrive any moment now but I am thinking about rejecting the package and cancelling the order. I have rooted my last 3 phones and the thought about having a such an expensive phone without TWRP and root is making me have second thoughts. My 6P works amazing with Resurrection Remix ROM, ElementalX Kernel w/butterfly governor profile, and I love not having to deal with YouTube Ads thanks to the modified YouTube app I flashed on it (thanks XDA). The S8 Plus is a beautiful device but I feel like I would be going backwards in terms of functionality... Any thoughts?

Well I cancelled mine after preordered. Because I want to see if the international varients have unlocked Bootloader...

I got an LG V20 before it was rooted and I enjoyed (briefly) the experience of no root and Android Pay but once root came out (well, a couple of weeks after), I caved in and rooted. I decided to take my chances with this phone as there's only a short list of reasons to root (and without Xposed, there's little reason to want root). Only thing I really miss would be Titanium Backup but I'm finding work arounds for my other issues.

Any workaround you can share for no root ad blocking on Youtube?

da_committee said:
Any workaround you can share for no root ad blocking on Youtube?
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yah, buy Youtube red. Its a very good service.

This is where each person's experience is different, I subscribe to Google Play Music and so YouTube Red comes in the package and I don't see ads. Admittedly I'm now back to seeing ads in all my apps, one forgets how many ads there are until you don't have an ad blocker...

yah, buy Youtube red. Its a very good service.
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Thanks for the insight Captain Obvious. I am sure all of those on XDA that have xposed and and a patched version of Youtube on their phones don't know about YouTube red as well.

da_committee said:
Thanks for the insight Captain Obvious. I am sure all of those on XDA that have xposed and and a patched version of Youtube on their phones don't know about YouTube red as well.
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Internationaly will likely get twrp, ive been told bl is unlocked

No Need Root ?

i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.

I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup

saifullah90 said:
if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
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IMHO, the main purpose for rooting is to boost the device security and privacy: to stop google, facebook et al. from spying on you.

I will root mine too, so i can use AFWall+, ADBlock, Tasker and Titanium Backup

saifullah90 said:
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
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I've found that the best way to satisfy my rooting urges these days is to keep a stock Pixel handy and a Nexus 5x for rooting goodness. These other phones (be it Samsung, LG, HTC) I am now leaving completely stock and will enjoy them for what they are. Other than light debloating and an occasional launcher change, there just isn't the desire anymore to root these and ROM them up.
I'm on the T-Mobile JOD plan, and for those of you that also happen to be...it has come to light that T-Mobile doesn't have a way of tracking whether or not customers are using only 3 JOD's a year in their database. MEANING, you can theoretically jump into a new (or the same phone if you have issues w/ your current JOD phone) every 30 days if your heart desires. I jumped from the LG v20 to the dreaded iPhone 7plus within a 45 day timeframe while waiting on the s8+ release. I plan to hold onto it until the upcoming Note release, buttttttttt I guess it depends what else is released in the interim!

To think that you can stop Google or Facebook from spying on you with root is humorous, they don't care about you, unless you're in some terrorist group or something... There's a no-root adblocker for Samsung called Adhell, it works through modifying Knox, no VPNs, and works as well as any root adblocker. The S8 also has a built-in DAC that lets you modify sound settings like Viper

Annie the Eagle said:
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
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All I need is viper4android but I'm on tmobile and when I rooted my s7e it was never the same so with that being said my note 4 is rooted with all that I need for listening to loud tunes or podcasts for work... and I'll be keeping my s8+ unrooted because it's just too smooth and lag free for me at the moment hoping it doesn't crap out in a couple months....

The reason I was going to root was so I could force the phone into LTE only mode, but the 4G switcher app works and does that so now I don't really have a need for root!

Rooting mainly for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root. Being able to do per apps settings for full screen, battery/performance, timeout and hw buttons.
I guess bixby button remapping would be another reason for root.
Except for this it looks like there's not that many more reasons to root anymore..:
Adhell and Adblock plugin for Sammy browser should take care of advertisemens and as sound settings and other functions in the ROM seems very good this year, so I'm not too bummed out if root doesn't happen.
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Always prefer XDA and Root ftw!

I pretty much stopped flashing different roms when I got my note 4, not that I had a huge choice since root came late. But when I did flash a ton, it was just a stock debloated and tweaked one.
But my number one reason for root is ad blocking. I absolutely hate ads. So I really only want to root my new s8+ so I can run ad block and install xposed to get the YouTube adblocker.

How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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Perhaps they dont have snapdragons....

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.

cpufrost said:
An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
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try bixremap it launches bixby then a mili sec later opens google now , you just need to undisable bixby from package disabler first

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary

saifullah90 said:
well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
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I HAVE to have Viper. Android should buy V4a and have it as a stock feature on all their phones.

Eddiemc said:
...for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root....
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+1000
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I wont be rooting because Verizon. that's why

vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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S7e boot was locked but we all rooted anyway different root from the norm tho....

What's the use of rooting your NEX?

I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?

Guy1731 said:
I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?
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I haven't rooted any of my phones for several years for the same reasons.

Guy1731 said:
I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?
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Well since you ask..
1, System-wide ad-blocking.. Yes browsers these days come with ad-blocking support. But have you been able to get rid of the stubborn ads that pop up in other apps. I know ads support the developer. But sometimes, they overdo it.
2, Substratum theming support (without Andromeda).. The Vivo's themes are garbage. Substratum could open up a world of opportunities.
3, Uninstalling junk system apps. Yes there is a method by which we can "uninstall" without root. But that's not a proper uninstall cuz the app is still in the phone and simply gets disabled for the user.
4. Making build.prop changes to add subtle tweaks that could improve usability in areas where the phone maker doesn't give a damn.
5. ViperFX..
So on.. And so forth.. Yes we can live without these things. But having them is definitely an improvement in smartphone usage... Especially with a beautiful beast like the Nex.
Cheers

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Well since you ask..
1, System-wide ad-blocking.. Yes browsers these days come with ad-blocking support. But have you been able to get rid of the stubborn ads that pop up in other apps. I know ads support the developer. But sometimes, they overdo it.
2, Substratum theming support (without Andromeda).. The Vivo's themes are garbage. Substratum could open up a world of opportunities.
3, Uninstalling junk system apps. Yes there is a method by which we can "uninstall" without root. But that's not a proper uninstall cuz the app is still in the phone and simply gets disabled for the user.
4. Making build.prop changes to add subtle tweaks that could improve usability in areas where the phone maker doesn't give a damn.
5. ViperFX..
So on.. And so forth.. Yes we can live without these things. But having them is definitely an improvement in smartphone usage... Especially with a beautiful beast like the Nex.
Cheers
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Meh!
1. My adblocking is system wide through my always-on vpn Windscribe and works better than most adblockers.
2. I don't use themes but I'd like to have a full dark mode.
3. I'm not bothered by them.
4. Not interested.
5. I can live without Viper.
I've never really been a modder but have used root to add functionality. These days the granular controls of miui, emui and funtouch take care of most of my needs.

Meh? I was voicing my opinion. Not giving you recommendations. If you are fine without them, good on you mate.

manu_up said:
Meh? I was voicing my opinion. Not giving you recommendations. If you are fine without them, good on you mate.
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Apologies. I was trying to be humorous. Should have put a smiley after it.

Twotems said:
Apologies. I was trying to be humorous. Should have put a smiley after it.
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No worries.. Cheers

It's my fault and I should have done due diligence, I am never buying another Chinese phone if I'm not sure it isnt rooatable.
No powerful adblocking
No powerful privacy apps/controls
Chinese malware/bloatware preinstalled that I can't remove. Some that run 24/7 and cant be locally uninstalled without breaking the phone. Drain battery life etc
Phone is way less customizable
I will never buy a Vivo phone again, its a shame because the NEX is awesome. Waiting on S10 release, I am getting rid of the NEX.

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It's my fault and I should have done due diligence, I am never buying another Chinese phone if I'm not sure it isnt rooatable.
No powerful adblocking
No powerful privacy apps/controls
Chinese malware/bloatware preinstalled that I can't remove. Some that run 24/7 and cant be locally uninstalled without breaking the phone. Drain battery life etc
Phone is way less customizable
I will never buy a Vivo phone again, its a shame because the NEX is awesome. Waiting on S10 release, I am getting rid of the NEX.
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this device its a shame..... its a global version bought with gearbest..... I gave it to my wife replacing her asus zf3 and replaced by a mi mix 3

rafik25 said:
this device its a shame..... its a global version bought with gearbest..... I gave it to my wife replacing her asus zf3 and replaced by a mi mix 3
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Your wife will love it and wonder what she did to deserve such an awesome phone. :laugh:

Twotems said:
Your wife will love it and wonder what she did to deserve such an awesome phone. :laugh:
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:good:

Guide to root Nex??
Please.

first of all, we need to find way to root nex, then talk about why lol

Root - Yes or No?

I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?

Only ones I can think of is you can't use the Netflix app and you need to login to Snapchat before you root

You can use Netflix by hiding it in Magisk but videos will play only in 480p.

silvercat said:
You can use Netflix by hiding it in Magisk but videos will play only in 480p.
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I have had it hidden in Magisk and it makes me update whenever I open it then google play said this app isn't compatible with your device anymore. I don't really care that much about Netflix and don't really care at all if it's not in HDR but I'm curious how you got it working.

Mibuix0r said:
I have had it hidden in Magisk and it makes me update whenever I open it then google play said this app isn't compatible with your device anymore. I don't really care that much about Netflix and don't really care at all if it's not in HDR but I'm curious how you got it working.
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Netflix works perfectly for me and never had an issue and I've rooted every phone I've had since owning a smartphone back in 2010. If you open the play store and go to settings, scroll down to the bottom and see if your device is certified or uncertified. If uncertified you need to hide root for all Google apps. I do Google pay, play, services the Google app I have it all and reboot and your device should show as certified.
As far as the op and root... I wouldn't own a phone if could not root. It's my phone, I want to do with it what I want to. If not that's what iPhones are for. Locked down junk that owners are told what they can do it not do with the phones they own.

I do not root.

I plan on rooting purely for tether hiding as my phone is my internet on the road. Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?

why isn't this a poll?

I rooted. For Google sans. Kernels can give even better battery life. also renovate gives some handy options like, centre clock, nav bar height. High brightness mod.
Not forgetting substratum if you fancy some more theming

Tb0n3 said:
Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?
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The TWRP dev is planning on a guide to update (with root) once he has the device (next couple days - give or take the fact he has exams next week).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79648973&postcount=499

tbh I not see reason to buy OnePlus for stay on stock and not rooted, no custom kernel etc
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memocatcher said:
I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?
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You won't get small OTA updates, you would need to install the full zip.
On the other hand you get full control of your device

memocatcher said:
I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?
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Since it's so easy to root it is worth it for what u are wanting, if want to unroot it is easy too using patched boot and stock boot images. You don't even need twrp.
It is also so easy to update with root too.

Eric214 said:
Netflix works perfectly for me and never had an issue and I've rooted every phone I've had since owning a smartphone back in 2010. If you open the play store and go to settings, scroll down to the bottom and see if your device is certified or uncertified. If uncertified you need to hide root for all Google apps. I do Google pay, play, services the Google app I have it all and reboot and your device should show as certified.
As far as the op and root... I wouldn't own a phone if could not root. It's my phone, I want to do with it what I want to. If not that's what iPhones are for. Locked down junk that owners are told what they can do it not do with the phones they own.
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Hmm, I unfroze all my google apps and then hid them with magisk and im still not showing certified Any other ideas? I'm betting its EdXposed
EDIT: Screw Google, just ended up going to apkmirror and getting the newest apk and it works

rmn.br said:
tbh I not see reason to buy OnePlus for stay on stock and not rooted, no custom kernel etc
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It's not because you can flash a phone that it's what they created expected for it. Why bother developping their OS and launcher if they made for people to remove both as soon as they get it ? They should just sell naked hardware with a tutorial to flash a rom.

I normally waited until phone stopped getting official support to root and try out custom rom. That could be one to three years depending on the phone.

Ueihtam said:
It's not because you can flash a phone that it's what they created expected for it. Why bother developping their OS and launcher if they made for people to remove both as soon as they get it ? They should just sell naked hardware with a tutorial to flash a rom.
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Actually they do encourage people to root and develop for it. OnePlus takes things that the development community adds to their OOS base and incorporates stable thing they feel enhances their OS. It's also the reason they are one of the very few phones that unlocking and rooting does not count your warranty.
OOS is the first and only OEM skin/OS that I have never replaced with a custom ROM. My last custom ROM was Pure Nexus with the Nexus 6P. The OnePlus 5, 6 and now the 7pro all were tied with stock ROM, rooted, TWRP and custom kennel (ex kerenel)

OnePlus is the inherit unofficial successor to the Nexus line on XDA! Unlock the boot and root... Cheers

I would root my phone If I had some tutorial how to use Netflix in HD. OnePlus 7 pro's best feature is a screen. I bought it to use Netflix and do not want to spoil the pleasure of using it in 480p.
Another root reason for me would be to change font color globally from white to black. I dream of phone theme where all is red and font is black
Still not sure should I do it or not....

Tb0n3 said:
I plan on rooting purely for tether hiding as my phone is my internet on the road. Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?
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How do you do that? Can you pm me or something? Thanks.