What's the use of rooting your NEX? - Vivo Nex Guides, News, & Discussion

I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?

Guy1731 said:
I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?
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I haven't rooted any of my phones for several years for the same reasons.

Guy1731 said:
I used to root my devices for years. Rooting a device allows installing apps which need root, and installing custom roms that allow more settings and tuning. Nowadays many settings are included stock, and most apps which need root have a similar app which doesn't. Since I bought my NEX, I didn't miss anything. So my question is: what's the need of rooting your nex?
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Well since you ask..
1, System-wide ad-blocking.. Yes browsers these days come with ad-blocking support. But have you been able to get rid of the stubborn ads that pop up in other apps. I know ads support the developer. But sometimes, they overdo it.
2, Substratum theming support (without Andromeda).. The Vivo's themes are garbage. Substratum could open up a world of opportunities.
3, Uninstalling junk system apps. Yes there is a method by which we can "uninstall" without root. But that's not a proper uninstall cuz the app is still in the phone and simply gets disabled for the user.
4. Making build.prop changes to add subtle tweaks that could improve usability in areas where the phone maker doesn't give a damn.
5. ViperFX..
So on.. And so forth.. Yes we can live without these things. But having them is definitely an improvement in smartphone usage... Especially with a beautiful beast like the Nex.
Cheers

manu_up said:
Well since you ask..
1, System-wide ad-blocking.. Yes browsers these days come with ad-blocking support. But have you been able to get rid of the stubborn ads that pop up in other apps. I know ads support the developer. But sometimes, they overdo it.
2, Substratum theming support (without Andromeda).. The Vivo's themes are garbage. Substratum could open up a world of opportunities.
3, Uninstalling junk system apps. Yes there is a method by which we can "uninstall" without root. But that's not a proper uninstall cuz the app is still in the phone and simply gets disabled for the user.
4. Making build.prop changes to add subtle tweaks that could improve usability in areas where the phone maker doesn't give a damn.
5. ViperFX..
So on.. And so forth.. Yes we can live without these things. But having them is definitely an improvement in smartphone usage... Especially with a beautiful beast like the Nex.
Cheers
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Meh!
1. My adblocking is system wide through my always-on vpn Windscribe and works better than most adblockers.
2. I don't use themes but I'd like to have a full dark mode.
3. I'm not bothered by them.
4. Not interested.
5. I can live without Viper.
I've never really been a modder but have used root to add functionality. These days the granular controls of miui, emui and funtouch take care of most of my needs.

Meh? I was voicing my opinion. Not giving you recommendations. If you are fine without them, good on you mate.

manu_up said:
Meh? I was voicing my opinion. Not giving you recommendations. If you are fine without them, good on you mate.
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Apologies. I was trying to be humorous. Should have put a smiley after it.

Twotems said:
Apologies. I was trying to be humorous. Should have put a smiley after it.
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No worries.. Cheers

It's my fault and I should have done due diligence, I am never buying another Chinese phone if I'm not sure it isnt rooatable.
No powerful adblocking
No powerful privacy apps/controls
Chinese malware/bloatware preinstalled that I can't remove. Some that run 24/7 and cant be locally uninstalled without breaking the phone. Drain battery life etc
Phone is way less customizable
I will never buy a Vivo phone again, its a shame because the NEX is awesome. Waiting on S10 release, I am getting rid of the NEX.

mewmew123 said:
It's my fault and I should have done due diligence, I am never buying another Chinese phone if I'm not sure it isnt rooatable.
No powerful adblocking
No powerful privacy apps/controls
Chinese malware/bloatware preinstalled that I can't remove. Some that run 24/7 and cant be locally uninstalled without breaking the phone. Drain battery life etc
Phone is way less customizable
I will never buy a Vivo phone again, its a shame because the NEX is awesome. Waiting on S10 release, I am getting rid of the NEX.
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this device its a shame..... its a global version bought with gearbest..... I gave it to my wife replacing her asus zf3 and replaced by a mi mix 3

rafik25 said:
this device its a shame..... its a global version bought with gearbest..... I gave it to my wife replacing her asus zf3 and replaced by a mi mix 3
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Your wife will love it and wonder what she did to deserve such an awesome phone. :laugh:

Twotems said:
Your wife will love it and wonder what she did to deserve such an awesome phone. :laugh:
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Guide to root Nex??
Please.

first of all, we need to find way to root nex, then talk about why lol

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[Q] Should I root my Moto G?

I've just received my fresh new Moto G, and I've been having second thoughts on rooting it. Can anyone convince me on whether or not I should root my phone, thanks!
I voted yes.
But to be honest, you should know for yourself. Do you need root? If not I wouldn't consider rooting. If you don't know, read about what you can do with root!
If you want to root, have a look at the guides and tutorials collection in the Moto G General forum.
If you decided to root, but you have problems (not working): Visit the Modaco Forum Modaco Forum and the topics of PaulOBrien. You'll find more up2date information on his rooting methods there. If you try with superboot, see my post on page 7 in the modaco forum if you have problems.
Happy tinkering
I purchased the International version for a friend of mine who is not technically savvy. I set up the phone and noticed that there was very little customization and bloatware; therefore, I decided to go without root.
As was mentioned a the previous post, you should ask yourself why you need root. If you can't get what you want without root, go ahead and root it.
I'd do it, but I wouldn't bother with custom ROMs when they start to become more abundant for this phone. The software on the Moto G is so close to stock that it's not really worth changing. Root, on the other hand, is pretty nice if only for installing AdAway. I did it pretty much solely for this purpose on the new Moto G I got for my dad's birthday because I know he's not very tech savvy and would likely click on one of the ads in a free version of an app.
Yes....you should only root if any of the above things interest you....if you have a specific reason to root. Otherwise why root.
And a question for you..........should I eat this tuna sandwich?
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@kj2112
Maybe, if you're hungry?
Sorry for ot^^
Wait at least 2 weeks to know if you have a defective phone or not, if in 2 weeks you got no problems then consider Root.
Check: screen, camera, USB , Battery...ETC
I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.
So far i have rooted for the following reasons -
Titanium Backup
Xposed Framework
AdFree
Plus it also gives some antivirus software more features/control.
I say if aren't looking to use particular app that needs Root then don't bother.
I voted Yes even though I haven't rooted it yet (because I have to thoroughly test screen, camera, usb battery), here is why:
- Titanium Backup,
- AdFree
- Tasker
- disabling carier
- adding extra fonts
- adding my locale
- ...other screen tweaks that can't be achieved with non root devices
theoneofgod said:
I say no for now. The whole reason I root phones apart from adaway, is to clear it of crap. The Moto G comes with no crap, and you can always disable installed apps. If you really want the added functionality that root gives then you wouldn't be asking.
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Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).
Thanks for the suggestions guys, I think I'll try to keep it away from root for like a week. Coming from HTC One X, I really miss having AdAway, Xposed, tinted Status Bar, Greenify, and I'm curious to try that MotoGuide and GravityBox though.
Yeah, I'm not gonna do custom ROMs yet, just thinking of rooting it only.
ksuuk said:
Well, it does include Motorola crap, which I can't disable. And the main reason for rooting is blocking ads, removing unwanted apps and optimizing phone cpu and memoryusage, no custom roms etc.
I will do it sooner or later, I just have to decide, root 4.3 or wait for 4.4.4 (as seems 4.4.2 is a crap).
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What can't you disable?
theoneofgod said:
What can't you disable?
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Stuff like:
com.android.xxx
com.motorola.xxx
com.qualcomm.xxx
Motorola Assist Framework
Morotola Notification
Motorola Services
MotoCare
ModemStatsService
Emergency Alerts
Rescue Ass-On
Motorola ID
LocationServices
Google Backup Transport
FMRadioService
DMService
Demo mode
etc
If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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gee2012 said:
If you have to be convinced then you don't need root.
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Best answer yet I think!
I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.
monchee said:
I like this answer! But seriously, I'd want to know if adaway, greenify, xposed, and gravitybox is worth it for the phone. But I don't know, maybe I'll give a week of staying in stock and see how it goes.
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Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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twister99403 said:
Honestly this phone gets awesome battery life so I don't think greenify would be necessary however I'm with everyone else, I might root my fiancés just to throw adaway on it I personally haven't even rooted my nexus 5 or 7 though and have rooted every other device I've come in contact with. I just think stock android is too nice and it just works without having to worry about force closes and other things that come up with rooting
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Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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kj2112 said:
Rooting does not cause force closes...Rom glitches do...or bad apps or settings.
Without root you can't get rid of ads, debloat or customize and add features with xposed.
But if someone didn't care about any of that ....then yes, no need to root.
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I should of been more clear no, rooting does not lead to that but if you go into the realm anything a little experimental or even running Roms like CM you are more than likely going to have issues where you can't always just pick up your phone and not worry about anything. I used to be the flashaholic that flashed Roms and tinkered constantly but if you actually have a life, job, kids you run out of time to deal with that. So, all I'm saying is decide what's more important
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Would you trade the S7e for the Pixel XL?

I'm debating between the two. I have a change to get one soon but I'm leaning on keeping the S7e since the U firmware runs well. I also think the S7e looks way better than the XL. It also means giving up SPay, Qi, IP68, compact body,... But Android 7.0 with the new goodies... hmmmm
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Samsung Pay, and the sleek look of the S7edge are the only things that keep me on.
I've never liked the camera UI of vanilla android.... also water resistant, sd card support & big ass battery
wait for the Galaxy S8 edge it will have all the upgraded specs and way more.
to get rid of touchwiz..... in a heartbeat
I'll put an end to this. The S7 Edge has the following advantages over the Pixel XL:
Bigger battery
Edge shortcuts
Waterproof
Better always on display
SD card
Wireless charging
Floating window
Screen gets brighter in daylight and darker at night
Scroll capture
Samsung widgets, magazine, weather, calendar..
Can still use JOD
Can use T-Mobile insurance
Samsung backup
Samsung pay
Better price
Dimensions are way better
As you can see the choice is a no-brainer. Shouldn't even require any thought actually. The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera. 7.1 doesn't do much (I have it on my Nexus) and the photos look better in all lighting conditions on the S7e, even though the Pixel has really great stabilization and is faster at snapping the photo.
The only thing the Pixel has is android 7.1 and some software tricks for the camera.
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...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
DOMF said:
...Yeah, what's "real root on a usable kernel" anyway?
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I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
seh6183 said:
I don't know why don't you explain to me exactly what you'll be gaining with root. And then explain how that is worth throwing away android pay.
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Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
DOMF said:
Host-file based ad blocking, Xposed and everything that goes along with that, viper, freezing system apps you don't like, DriveDroid...
All for the low low price of "having to swipe a credit card instead of tapping your phone on a thing"
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Ad blocking can be done without root.
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
DriveDroid? Lol
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
seh6183 said:
Ad blocking can be done without root.
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Not very effectively
seh6183 said:
Viper is buggy and totally unnecessary.
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Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
seh6183 said:
Freezing system apps can be done without root.
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Again yea kinda
seh6183 said:
Xposed is the only decent thing on your list and even it is buggy and questionable.
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WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Not very effectively
Untrue, dont even know where to start on this..
Again yea kinda
WTF are you even doing on XDA? Are you a shill for closed systems and locked bootloaders? If you are that naive about the benefits of real root then you really should do some homework.
Custom roms
debloating
Overclocking
Expanded app features
Root explorer and the like (and if you say samsungs file manger is good enough I'll beat you with a sack of doorknobs)
Titanium backup
X touchwiz
Feature tweaking and customization
Busybox
Actual Privacy control
Actual control to do what you want with your property
And more, not to mention each of those has a bunch of reasons all their own.
Android and samsung pay and any other mobile pay option are jokes. I have credit cards that also are tap and pay and have been for many years. You feel free to explain why something available in cards already is worth throwing all that away just to put it on a phone that is unless all youre doing is trolling.
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Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you. Maybe you don't even know what mst is? Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
Your arrogance is amazing, do you purport know better than everyone else?
seh6183 said:
Ad blocking is not very effective without root? I don't see a single ad, don't have root. Seems pretty effective to me.
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LOL wow so because you dont have any adds that means the method you use is just as good for everyone? If everyone uses your method there would be no adds whatsoever, is that what you are saying?
seh6183 said:
I have 180 apps frozen on my phone right now. What is this "kinda" you speak of?
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As for freezing, you cant freeze certain system apps w/o root that's why I said kinda. See how that works? Not to mention the overall problem of freezing instead of removing. But yea keep the bloatware and limit your space.
seh6183 said:
XDA was created when phones NEEDED to be rooted and tweaked just to make them enjoyable. The OEMs are eliminating the need for root one item at a time and eventually it will be totally unnecessary. Believe it or don't but that's reality and it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks in the next year or two.
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As far as you rationale on xda and rooting, OEMs are not eliminating the need for root, otherwise most people wouldnt be on here. And who are you to say what is needed to make other's phones more enjoyable? The fact that people want root is indicative of their need to make modifications to make their phone enjoyable to them. And also is that why the international versions have unlocked bootloaders? To educate you, OEMS lock bootloaders at the request of carriers. Locked bootloaders have been available to be instituted for many years, and seeing as US carriers are starting to utilize them the demand for unlocked phones are increasing.
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-introduces-unlocked-galaxy-s7-and-galaxy-s7-edge-in-the-u-s
Samsung even admits it and has released a carrier independent unlocked s7
seh6183 said:
Every single thing that you mentioned can be done without root or is unnecessary.
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Again who says its unnecessary? You? Since when do you speak for the majority?
seh6183 said:
If you have to have those features you mentioned, excellent then go ahead and choose a phone that can be rooted, and root your heart out so you can change the color of your status bar LOL
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Again I will and many others will to due to our need to make our phones more enjoyable
seh6183 said:
I personally prefer not to give up things such as Samsung pay. If you cant wrap your head around why Samsung pay is popular and useful then there is nothing I can say to educate you.
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AGAIN so... because you have settled on that tradeoff and others dont agree with your opinion, you are saying that we must not be educated? What a narrow world view, agree with everything I say and do or you're wrong and must be corrected. The Nazis had the same idea but took it a step further and eliminated opposition.
seh6183 said:
Maybe you don't even know what mst is?
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Do you? Yes I know what MST is, its Samsung's latest push towards wireless payment technology utilizing NFC. And if the merchant doesnt use it then samsung pay will go ahead and use older "Less Secure" Technology or wont work at all resulting in you having to pull out your bank card and use it either by tap and pay, chip or good old fashioned swiping.
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Anyway have fun with whatever it is that you do.
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Yes, I like many others, will keep trying to get real root because of OUR need to make our devices more enjoyable.
Oh and btw I forgot to mention Xposed by itself, does absolutely nothing, its a framework for root apps to make the modifications and in fact most apps are quite stable on real root. Real root enables the users to fix and streamline the performance of their devices not just customize. Like disabling DVFS, odex/deodex, custom kernels, these are not for aesthetic purposes but functional. To make up for problems like this
http://bgr.com/2016/03/25/galaxy-s7-performance-test-us-vs-global-pt-2/
But keep drinking the koolaid and insist that security is paramount to freedom. The establishment will love you for it.
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a bunch of annoying babbling
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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Look buddy take a hike. No one cares. Go to a forum for a phone that has "proper root" and tell them about how much you love root and all the cool things you can do with it.
The fact of the matter is, like I've stated before, almost everything can be accomplished without root. I don't need you to believe this for it to be fact.
Go buy the inferior pixel so you can load a custom rom that allows you to have a floating side bar or buggy app addons and then wait for the dev to fix them all.
Either way just go away. This isn't a root thread, it's about the s7e vs the pixel and I've already blown that argument out of the water.
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LOL awwwww did I make the troll mad? "the fact of the matter is" I respond with structured facts and refrences, you refuse to refute my points with anything other than a tantrum and unfounded opinions. YOU were the one that tried to act like everything you said was fact with no proof, You began this debate and now that its plain to see that you have no real ground to stand on, you are gonna knock the pieces off the board. And apparently people care, you may not but others do. So your "No one cares" is yet another unfounded opinion that has no basis in truth. And as far as going to a forum where people care about root, I did, that's what XDA is, all of it! Its XDA DEVELOPERS! Maybe you should find a new site to spout your locked bootloader/anti root vitrol and where you can refuse to act like a reasonable adult. LMFAO.
All my ads are blocked.
I can freeze every single process on my phone.
You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
Im eating popcorn while reading all this.
I would not trade the GS7E for a pixel or any other Google branded phone. Had bad experiences with prior Nexus phones. To put it simply, the plusses of this phone easily outweigh the plusses of the pixel, which really is only that it has stock Android and quick updates. I couldn't care less about root, as another poster stated, ad blocking and freezing apps can be done without. Never had good experiences with xposed. And lastly, if you want the UI to look stock, Samsung good lock has you covered. Overall, this phone doesn't lag, doesn't crash, has excellent battery life, water resistance, and reasonably quick updates. Life is too short to deal with rooting and other nonsense. I want a phone that works with minimal input from me, and this gives me that.
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You don't know how mst works.
FAIL.
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This is literally all I saw...the failure to realise what MST is and/or how it works. NFC is kind of weak...android pay uses it some cards have it the samsung gear s2 watch uses it for sam pay....but mst...mst since nobody wanted to educate the other guy...creates an electromagnetic field of sorts that mimics the magnetic frequency resonance whatever what have you of said card (well actually a secondary card number to protect yours) to emulate a card swipe...works places NOTHING else does..android pay apple pay paypal none of them work because you are in the country somewhere at some hillbilly gasstation that has only a card reader...sam pay will save you. It should even work with square pay readers ?. I will say though...v4a Viper4Android...is VERY useful especially if you are an audiophile. No other app compares...period...coming from someone with an s7e that isnt rooter because i use sam pay. And i must say yea i miss the abilities of a rooted phone...but ive been fine since march without. Also heard tmobile was checking to see if devices were rooted now on insurance....i already cracked my screen once(sparks shooting across the room actually did it)...if thats true i would have been a $$ out if rooted...oh and to answer your question...not in a million years...tmobiles bill credit isnt even enticing enough coupled with the note7 fiasco. Ill be getting the 5.5 s8 or s8e however they will market the moniker as soon as it drops
I didn't want to explain mst to the guy because I was hoping he would continue to live his life believing that mst is just nfc lol
I guess I just don't see what is so great about viper. An equalizer is very important to me but that is built into the apps these days. All the other functions of viper are unimportant to me. I'm not an audiophile so I'm probably missing it, but adding an echo or virtual surround to my music is not important. And I've had bugs and drain with viper before (only on certain devices)

No Need Root ?

i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
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IMHO, the main purpose for rooting is to boost the device security and privacy: to stop google, facebook et al. from spying on you.
I will root mine too, so i can use AFWall+, ADBlock, Tasker and Titanium Backup
saifullah90 said:
i don't think i'm going to root my phone this time it has all the future and it freaking fast and blotware less , gonna give samsung apps a chance and use then for good . if you are going to root please give me some feedback on WHY ty.
i got myphone yesterday.
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I've found that the best way to satisfy my rooting urges these days is to keep a stock Pixel handy and a Nexus 5x for rooting goodness. These other phones (be it Samsung, LG, HTC) I am now leaving completely stock and will enjoy them for what they are. Other than light debloating and an occasional launcher change, there just isn't the desire anymore to root these and ROM them up.
I'm on the T-Mobile JOD plan, and for those of you that also happen to be...it has come to light that T-Mobile doesn't have a way of tracking whether or not customers are using only 3 JOD's a year in their database. MEANING, you can theoretically jump into a new (or the same phone if you have issues w/ your current JOD phone) every 30 days if your heart desires. I jumped from the LG v20 to the dreaded iPhone 7plus within a 45 day timeframe while waiting on the s8+ release. I plan to hold onto it until the upcoming Note release, buttttttttt I guess it depends what else is released in the interim!
To think that you can stop Google or Facebook from spying on you with root is humorous, they don't care about you, unless you're in some terrorist group or something... There's a no-root adblocker for Samsung called Adhell, it works through modifying Knox, no VPNs, and works as well as any root adblocker. The S8 also has a built-in DAC that lets you modify sound settings like Viper
Annie the Eagle said:
I will be rooting so I can use Viper4Android, AdAway and Titanium Backup
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All I need is viper4android but I'm on tmobile and when I rooted my s7e it was never the same so with that being said my note 4 is rooted with all that I need for listening to loud tunes or podcasts for work... and I'll be keeping my s8+ unrooted because it's just too smooth and lag free for me at the moment hoping it doesn't crap out in a couple months....
The reason I was going to root was so I could force the phone into LTE only mode, but the 4G switcher app works and does that so now I don't really have a need for root!
Rooting mainly for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root. Being able to do per apps settings for full screen, battery/performance, timeout and hw buttons.
I guess bixby button remapping would be another reason for root.
Except for this it looks like there's not that many more reasons to root anymore..:
Adhell and Adblock plugin for Sammy browser should take care of advertisemens and as sound settings and other functions in the ROM seems very good this year, so I'm not too bummed out if root doesn't happen.
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Always prefer XDA and Root ftw!
I pretty much stopped flashing different roms when I got my note 4, not that I had a huge choice since root came late. But when I did flash a ton, it was just a stock debloated and tweaked one.
But my number one reason for root is ad blocking. I absolutely hate ads. So I really only want to root my new s8+ so I can run ad block and install xposed to get the YouTube adblocker.
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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Perhaps they dont have snapdragons....
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
cpufrost said:
An exploit has to be found. One can have root with a locked bootloader obviously.
Of course an unlocked bootloader allows us to flash recoveries, custom roms and other goodies.
I do miss Titanium.
And centered clock and custom icons.
Package disabler pro helps a lot.
I had to kill bixby. Hitting that button when trying to turn down the volume and having that interrupt me was really annoying.
I'd like to have that button dedicated to something.
But for now, it's a dummy.
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try bixremap it launches bixby then a mili sec later opens google now , you just need to undisable bixby from package disabler first
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
saifullah90 said:
well once we got the chance i guess, but im skipping the root on s8 not necessary
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I HAVE to have Viper. Android should buy V4a and have it as a stock feature on all their phones.
Eddiemc said:
...for full automation through tasker. Shell commands, GPS, etc needs root....
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+1000
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I wont be rooting because Verizon. that's why
vibrantliker said:
How do all of you plan on rooting when the bootloader is locked?
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S7e boot was locked but we all rooted anyway different root from the norm tho....

Root - Yes or No?

I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?
Only ones I can think of is you can't use the Netflix app and you need to login to Snapchat before you root
You can use Netflix by hiding it in Magisk but videos will play only in 480p.
silvercat said:
You can use Netflix by hiding it in Magisk but videos will play only in 480p.
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I have had it hidden in Magisk and it makes me update whenever I open it then google play said this app isn't compatible with your device anymore. I don't really care that much about Netflix and don't really care at all if it's not in HDR but I'm curious how you got it working.
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I have had it hidden in Magisk and it makes me update whenever I open it then google play said this app isn't compatible with your device anymore. I don't really care that much about Netflix and don't really care at all if it's not in HDR but I'm curious how you got it working.
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Netflix works perfectly for me and never had an issue and I've rooted every phone I've had since owning a smartphone back in 2010. If you open the play store and go to settings, scroll down to the bottom and see if your device is certified or uncertified. If uncertified you need to hide root for all Google apps. I do Google pay, play, services the Google app I have it all and reboot and your device should show as certified.
As far as the op and root... I wouldn't own a phone if could not root. It's my phone, I want to do with it what I want to. If not that's what iPhones are for. Locked down junk that owners are told what they can do it not do with the phones they own.
I do not root.
I plan on rooting purely for tether hiding as my phone is my internet on the road. Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?
why isn't this a poll?
I rooted. For Google sans. Kernels can give even better battery life. also renovate gives some handy options like, centre clock, nav bar height. High brightness mod.
Not forgetting substratum if you fancy some more theming
Tb0n3 said:
Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?
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The TWRP dev is planning on a guide to update (with root) once he has the device (next couple days - give or take the fact he has exams next week).
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79648973&postcount=499
tbh I not see reason to buy OnePlus for stay on stock and not rooted, no custom kernel etc
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memocatcher said:
I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?
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You won't get small OTA updates, you would need to install the full zip.
On the other hand you get full control of your device
memocatcher said:
I kind of want to root my 7 Pro, since I really miss Substratum.
I also don't care about Widevine, but are there any more disadvantages with rooting the 7 Pro?
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Since it's so easy to root it is worth it for what u are wanting, if want to unroot it is easy too using patched boot and stock boot images. You don't even need twrp.
It is also so easy to update with root too.
Eric214 said:
Netflix works perfectly for me and never had an issue and I've rooted every phone I've had since owning a smartphone back in 2010. If you open the play store and go to settings, scroll down to the bottom and see if your device is certified or uncertified. If uncertified you need to hide root for all Google apps. I do Google pay, play, services the Google app I have it all and reboot and your device should show as certified.
As far as the op and root... I wouldn't own a phone if could not root. It's my phone, I want to do with it what I want to. If not that's what iPhones are for. Locked down junk that owners are told what they can do it not do with the phones they own.
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Hmm, I unfroze all my google apps and then hid them with magisk and im still not showing certified Any other ideas? I'm betting its EdXposed
EDIT: Screw Google, just ended up going to apkmirror and getting the newest apk and it works
rmn.br said:
tbh I not see reason to buy OnePlus for stay on stock and not rooted, no custom kernel etc
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It's not because you can flash a phone that it's what they created expected for it. Why bother developping their OS and launcher if they made for people to remove both as soon as they get it ? They should just sell naked hardware with a tutorial to flash a rom.
I normally waited until phone stopped getting official support to root and try out custom rom. That could be one to three years depending on the phone.
Ueihtam said:
It's not because you can flash a phone that it's what they created expected for it. Why bother developping their OS and launcher if they made for people to remove both as soon as they get it ? They should just sell naked hardware with a tutorial to flash a rom.
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Actually they do encourage people to root and develop for it. OnePlus takes things that the development community adds to their OOS base and incorporates stable thing they feel enhances their OS. It's also the reason they are one of the very few phones that unlocking and rooting does not count your warranty.
OOS is the first and only OEM skin/OS that I have never replaced with a custom ROM. My last custom ROM was Pure Nexus with the Nexus 6P. The OnePlus 5, 6 and now the 7pro all were tied with stock ROM, rooted, TWRP and custom kennel (ex kerenel)
OnePlus is the inherit unofficial successor to the Nexus line on XDA! Unlock the boot and root... Cheers
I would root my phone If I had some tutorial how to use Netflix in HD. OnePlus 7 pro's best feature is a screen. I bought it to use Netflix and do not want to spoil the pleasure of using it in 480p.
Another root reason for me would be to change font color globally from white to black. I dream of phone theme where all is red and font is black
Still not sure should I do it or not....
Tb0n3 said:
I plan on rooting purely for tether hiding as my phone is my internet on the road. Does anybody know what happens with updates on rooted op7p?
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How do you do that? Can you pm me or something? Thanks.

Do you find you need root?

I used to be a crack flasher all the way back to the original SGN. It slowed down when I got the 5T. Only rooted the 6 but never did root the 6T but I did unlock the bootloader.
With the 7 Pro I feel no need to unlock the bootloader or even think about root. Is this just due to Android getting better or something else?
I was on the fence but ended up rooting mainly for the VPN-less adblocking.
Yes
For,
Titanium Backup
AdAway
Tasker & Tasker Plugins
YouTube Vanced
Custom text, alarm and ringtones (removing stock and replacing with custom in /system/media/audio/)
Custom boot animations
Custom fonts
iOS emojis
Renovate Magisk ROM
Substratum for themeing
Dolby Digital Plus
SysConfig Patcher
The way I look at it now is you can not do certain things without root. Thats reason enough.
There is really nothing you cannot do with root (that you can do unrooted)
miffymiffy said:
The way I look at it now is you can not do certain things without root. Thats reason enough.
There is really nothing you cannot do with root (that you can do unrooted)
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Except take every Google Pay update not worried about whether it's going to work or not...lol
bp328i said:
Except take every Google Pay update not worried about whether it's going to work or not...lol
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Google Pay isn't what breaks it's Google play services that will block your card use. I update google pay the second it says there's an update and I never once had an issue with root and google or Samsung pay for that matter (Gear S3 Frontier)
Eric214 said:
Google Pay isn't what breaks it's Google play services that will block your card use. I update google pay the second it says there's an update and I never once had an issue with root and google or Samsung pay for that matter (Gear S3 Frontier)
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Ok, then Google Play services.
Netflix hd playback too
Yeah definitely. I really need Xposed Edge for the gestures. I have assigned 12 functions amongst the four edges which works wonders on this already super fast phone.
Exi for Swiftkey, for far easier and quicker typing.
ChromePie, easier to access various options.
Minminguard, in-app ad blocking.
Adaway.
GravityBox, for finer tweaking of ROM.
Titanium Backup.
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YouTube Vanced
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You don't need root for that really.
Have always rooted my phones since 2009, but this is the first where I haven't rooted (yet). Normally I'd root a new phone within 10 minutes after receiving it. But this phone pretty much has it all so no need to root (yet). Only thing I miss is a complete dark theme. OPs strategy with only theming about 70% of the interface is odd, but I hope that Android Q will fix that once it's officially released for this phone.
slonn said:
Have always rooted my phones since 2009, but this is the first where I haven't rooted (yet). Normally I'd root a new phone within 10 minutes after receiving it. But this phone pretty much has it all so no need to root (yet). Only thing I miss is a complete dark theme. OPs strategy with only theming about 70% of the interface is odd, but I hope that Android Q will fix that once it's officially released for this phone.
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Same as you. Sometimes I rooted my new phones even before a complete boot cycle! But with the OP7P I guess I don't feel the need to do it.
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You don't need root for that really.
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Seems like it's installed the easiest and most seamless with root though.
Regardless, there are several other reasons I mentioned I use root for, so why not just install YouTube Vanced with root as well
I'm on the fence myself. I do miss Substratum, but afraid to lose Netflix HD permanently and i had issues with SPay not working on my Pixel 3 XL after rooting. Not sure what i want to do......
Been rooting my phones since my first Android and the OG Droid Motorola A855. I doubt you may find too many members here that will vote the last question of your poll, since this site has become THE place for those who want to root and ROM.
For me it's:
Titanium
Ad Away
Renovate
and whatever other reason I feel like. I received my 7 Pro, charged the battery and the only reason I booted it to system was to get developers options and OK the oem unlocking. Didn't even sign it in on first boot.
I finally rooted a few days ago. Basic root is easy. EdXposed and gravity box and that kind of stuff you need to pay attention to a bit more unless you've done it before (which i have not)
Life begins after root! Google pay and Samsung pa works without issues on OP 7 Pro. Just hide Magisk from all google and Samsung apps (if using a Gear S3 like I am)
I find that I need it for my personal needs/wants due to Swift installer support and native call recording. Plus having TB to uninstall some system apps that I don't want/need is also a plus.
Personally, I don't need root do much. But I do need magisk and modules as well as magisk ROMs. Everything else is a plus.
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