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hello, I search a phone for my little sister,
I have a 100€ not more, which one do you think is the best at this price between the 4 ?
I will vote for the REDMI 3s. I don't like phones which are 5 inch + .
the 3s has expandable storage
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Hello Jordan,
I see your request and it's easy to answer it in a row.
RN3S is the best and only good choice.
MI4C is obsolete and the 3S has many feature that you have to mind:
the battery is fantastic in use (I know I have tested it during one month, same condition as RN3SD and last longer) , you have ext SD and the phone construction is very robust it doesn't suffer after the JERRY's binding test (not the case for RN3).
about the perf nothing to say because I didn't play games with it but it is a medium end performer, much than enough for everybody daily usage.
The size is perfect in hand and pocket.
And the cherry on the cake you get B20 LTE if you need it.
Go forward
See you elsewhere!
jordandroid64 said:
Mi4C has 5inch screen ...
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I know . But others are not and since you posted it in here under the Mi 4C subforum it makes that by context I am comparint the 3s to mi4c.
Rn3pro for the great soc and custom rom support , just live with the size I guess
I have a note 3 pro for myself but it is a little bit too expensive
I think the only useful advantage of Mi 4C is its camera. Mi 4C camera takes amazing photos in good light.
Mi4c for better camera and better 1080p screen. Let us not forget that Mi4c is flagship series and not a Redmi. If battery life is #1 for you, then Redmi 3S.
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I think the only useful advantage of Mi 4C is its camera. Mi 4C camera takes amazing photos in good light.
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Don't forget excellent 1080p screen!
Mi4C has a 64-bit processor. That's also a big plus
I'd probably still get Mi4c. Great screen, above average camera, fairly fast, great custom ROM selection. Mine has weak GPS, but that's the only bad thing I have to say about the phone (and I suppose it's not an universal problem since many ppl say theirs work great). Go with either one, you won't be disappointed. It can't get much better than this, considering the price point.
This phone is hot, shorter battery, weak gps and no sd card, if you can live with that, why not
I hesitate now...
You should consider the Xiaomi Redmi 4 Pro that came out November 4th. Dirt cheap on resellers sites, just about 10 dollars or so more expensive than Redmi 3S, but performance is obviously a lot better. Battery life shouldn't suffer a lot at all, since the SD 625 is very efficient.
I have a budget of 100€ not one more... it's for a kid...
Mate, just go for either Redmi 3S or Mi4C, both are great and if you're buying it as a gift, then even better. I'm probably a bit biased because I own a Mi4C, but still. I bought it a month ago and I couldn't be happier. The battery is completely okey, it lasts me the whole day without problems, camera is fantastic, the screen is gorgeous and from the technical standpoint it should receive community updates longer than Redmi 3S. But as I said, the Redmi 3S is a good phone as well, so whichever you'll choose, you won't go wrong.
Hi.
In my opinion (I have both devices), 3S is smaller and has longer battery but Screen is HD (thats one reason because battery is longer) and of course fingerprint (that really i never use). However, Mi4c has better resolution and powerful SoC, Wifi capabilities, and also double flash/camera for night photos.
Now I'm using Mi4c with Cm14 and I love it! Smooth, fast... and everything in bright and FullHD.
Hey
I'm currently a lg G6 user and I'm thinking about buying the mi mix 2s !
I live in Paris so had the chance to test it live in their store and found it beautiful, the screen was very good and the camera too, but I also tried the Xiaomi S2 in hand and felt good too.
I know the price would be a factor, but it's not the case for me and Idk what to buy, the S2 or the mi mix 2s.
I mostly use my phone for youtube, chatting sms calls... no games and I take many pictures, so the camera and battery are important to me (I also like to use custom roms ...)
I ask you if you could please give me your opinion and help me choose
Many thanks !
The Mi Mix 2S has the better camera and internal specs, also the build materials are better. But that's because they are different phones, aimed at different targets: The Mi Mix 2S being a flagship, whereas the S2 is a mid tier phone.
I totally agree with Kristof_clg, however keep in mind that the 2s is very heavy. Feels very strange if you are not used to it
I also came from a G6. Don't get the 2S. Hell, don't get any Xiaomi device.
Too many broken/missing features.
Just get another LG or something like that.
I was on LG G5, next ZUK Z2 Pro, next OnePlus 3 and now on Mix 2S and it's A LOT better than all previous ones, smoothness, camera, quality build, the screen, it's very very impressive, I know the G6 and you should leave LG for Xiaomi.
I moved from LG6 to MIX 2S and don't regret it. all specs are obviously better, including battery life. took me a while to get used to weight, MIX 2s is a very, very heavy device. there were few problems with original software, but latest update fixed it. Camera is much better. design was the reason i bought MIX, but if i should do it again, i will not buy Xiaomi device again.
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I moved from LG6 to MIX 2S and don't regret it. all specs are obviously better, including battery life. took me a while to get used to weight, MIX 2s is a very, very heavy device. there were few problems with original software, but latest update fixed it. Camera is much better. design was the reason i bought MIX, but if i should do it again, i will not buy Xiaomi device again.
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SolarisSixth said:
I also came from a G6. Don't get the 2S. Hell, don't get any Xiaomi device.
Too many broken/missing features.
Just get another LG or something like that.
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Could you please explain the reasons why? Since I already had a redmi note 4 it was great overall besides the camera.
Thanks !
"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all ?
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"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all
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Depends on what phone you had before. I bought the 2s after I used the oneplus one for a long time... The 1+1 is wonderful lightweight and the 2s feels like I can murder someone with it
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"Very, very heavy" ?! Seriously ? I don't feel it heavy at all
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191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?
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191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?
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Maybe for girls
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191 g vs 163 g that's a very big difference, isn't it?
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It simply doesn't make a big deal to me.
I owned 11 smartphones and it truly doesn't bother me. In fact I'm okay with it.
Just my personal preference.
I came from an HTC 10 and a Nexus 6 before that. Neither of those phones was built to be a lightweight, and even I noticed how heavy the 2S is. That said, it doesn't bother me a bit. To me if feels sturdy and I would much rather that than it feeling cheap and like it couldn't take a drop (my first couple of Samsung phones come to mind). Plus as stated earlier, you could use it as an effective weapon if needed
LG have had quality build issues. G4 bootloop due to bad memory, G5 gps Very weak, to not working at all. I have a g5 currently and have a mix 2s on its way to me. I dont know what missing features apart from headphone jack and no microsd slot there are. Mix 2s has an ir blaster like g5 has which you wont find on any other current flagship main stream device now and 8gb ram 256gb rom is more than what samsung or lg give you, 4gb of ram on s9 is terrible for a premium device. Micro sd cards are reletively slow anyway, getting 256gb mix 2s negates the need for microsd.
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LG have had quality build issues. G4 bootloop due to bad memory, G5 gps Very weak, to not working at all. I have a g5 currently and have a mix 2s on its way to me. I dont know what missing features apart from headphone jack and no microsd slot there are. Mix 2s has an ir blaster like g5 has which you wont find on any other current flagship main stream device now and 8gb ram 256gb rom is more than what samsung or lg give you, 4gb of ram on s9 is terrible for a premium device. Micro sd cards are reletively slow anyway, getting 256gb mix 2s negates the need for microsd.
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The Mix 2S has an IR blaster? I tried the Mi Remote app and it told me the phone wasn't compatible.
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The Mix 2S has an IR blaster? I tried the Mi Remote app and it told me the phone wasn't compatible.
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Sorry it doesn't. Some sites that list specs incorrectly say it has. Obviously googling for "mix2s ir blaster" takes you to those sites, my mistake. I have my mix 2s now, I didn't when I posted that.
Hello Community !
I rly dont know what is better, i saw awesome cam shots and videos made with the Mi Note 10 but the Poco F2 Pro is newer and yea ... is it better? I dont know, what do you guys think? Some of you have already some month this Mi Note 10 Phone and whats your opinion about it?
I hope you can help me a little bit
- https://www.mi.com/de/poco-f2-pro/ (8k recording, Snapdragon™
865 , 5G connection, 4700mAh, full display without a notch etc)
- https://www.mi.com/de/mi-note-10/
i was about to get the poco f2 aswell, but decided for the mi note 10 LITE (350€).
the camera sensor on the mi note 10 LITE would be the same like on the poco f2. Sony IMX686 which seems perfect for GCam mods.
the normal note 10 has a samsung sensor, which is "better" specs wise. but i heard multiple times that many prefer the sony sensor in the note 10 LITE (gcam advantages).
regarding the mi note 10 (lite):
performance is perfectly fine on the snapdragon 730g. [email protected] is max. here. i dont miss anything when it comes to performance (iam not a gamer though!).
battery is now even better on android 10 what i have heard. usually getting 8-10h SoT
5g is a useless feature for me. 4g is far enough and it can reach higher distances.
notch can be hidden via UI settings.
if you need massive gaming performance and 8k recording, the s865 is a must then.
As for the main sensors I dont think there is noticeable difference. (IMO sony probably the better choice when using gcam).
The main difference is that with note 10 you get OIS, which you don't get with poco f2. And you also get zoom camera with OIS.
Poco f2 will probably have better and faster processing due to the SD865, which assists HDR prosessing and video. It also has a decent macro camera.
So it is a close race, I'd probably say the note 10 has the most versatile camera system with OIS. But else the poco wins in every aspect. Better performance, no-notch screen, better batterytime ( note 10 battery time is not so impressive despite the large battery, my mi 9t with 4000mah last longer for example).
regarding the battery questions, which was quite important to me:
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi-note-10-lite-testbericht/#akku
https://www.chinahandys.net/poco-f2-pro-testbericht/#akkulaufzeit
Note10LITE > Note10 > POCOF2
As for the note 10 lite you get a downgrade on almost all cameras vs note 10.
No OIS is the most noticeable one. But also downgraded ultrawide, selfie and no zoom.
If want a god camera Note 10 , if not No one, better a Oneplus 7 pro , poco its ok but ith the price 350 eu not 500 3u like a 7pro.
Mi note 10 with 350/400 eu its the best camera phone overall...
Hi DerSky1,
I have both phones here in my hands. Since january this year i was using the Note 10, and I was ordering the Poco F2 Pro, arriving last week.
What is bad about the Note 10?:
-Processor, lags on webpages with lot of advertisment ****.
-Processor, 108MP Pictures take some time to be processed, so you have to wait to shoot the next, as well as to see you shot after taking...
-fingerprint scanner seems to be more slowly than on Poco F2 pro
What is bad about the Poco F2 Pro?:
-The displays color accuracy is not as good as on the Note 10 (more blue)
-No FM-Radio
- IMX686 Sony Sensor is tiny compared to the Samsung 108Mpx from the Note, resulting in, i would say not as good pictures...
What makes no difference:
- batterie lasts same on both phones
-Size is similar, Poco is a bit longer
- Note 10 has a curved display, poco f2 not.
-Charging Speed in real life is very similar.
- 5G in Poco as there is no area wide 5G network in Germany for the next 2 years at least
My conclusion:
Sell the Poco, think of getting a Mi 10, or wait until note 11... hopefully with SD 765G
Fell free to ask further questions.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
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https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
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Glad I got the Mi Note 10 Pro, I had actually ordered the F2 Pro, but at the beggining of the shipment was damage and the seller decided to cancel the purchase I made. I was nervous about the review of the F2 pro on YouTube because they switched out the telephoto camera that was in the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, and switch out the lens with a Macro Camera, which I have little interest in. After the shiment was cancelled, I ordered the Mi Note 10 Pro. What I really lime about the F2 pro reminds me of when I owned the Mi 9T, and I love you have more options to change the color of the pop-up camere, which the Mi 9T only have one color - (depending of the color of the phone you purchased).
After owning the Xiaomi Mi 9T, which sports the same chip as the Mi Note 10/10 Pro, the battery size was the only let down, the mid range chipset is more than acceptable YouTube and media consumption. Since its an Amoled screen, I rather use a PC or console or tablet only because I prefer not to over use Amoled screens in general = screen burns. I really love the camera on the Mi Note 10 Pro, the curved screen took some time to get used too, esoecially the texting. The texting gotten better once choosing to expanding the edge accidental touch option.. But once I slapped on a slim TPU screen protector on, the screen feels amazing. Have tried a tempered glass on the Mi Note 10, those screens do jot work and takes away from the screen sensitivity. TPU and Hydrogel is the way to go.
The battery usage is amazing and after tweaking more with the CPU processor to 300Mhz minimum, and adb shell-ing out useless apps. I can say this phone is worth getting. Using the latest Xiaomi EU is amazing, I also have tried Miui 12 weekly 5.28, I like the smooth zooming capabilities of the telephoto cameras. The high screen refresh rate take some getting use to, the sooth movements makes my eyes hurt a bit, haha. Feels a bit "too" buttery smooth, but the positive side to the situation is the smooth scrolling in web pages, apps and in general. The smooth scrolling eliminate any microlags left behind from Miui 11, and that is a huge plus ( using Xiaomi Eu 5.28) I am sure Miui 12 will get much better, especially with this phone.
I don't particularly go for high end phones, but.........If the Poco brand release the Poco F2 Pro Zoom, then it will be worth buying only because I love the Xiaomi Mi 9T.
I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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Very true, I would be great if they release a Pro edition. Meanwhile it seems like the Mi Note 10 will have another variant with a Snapdragon 775 and 12x optical zoom, possibly with periscope zoom. Plus support for 120x digital zoom. For sure when more details will be reveal soon, I will definitely stick with this phone until its succesor arrive.
I realy love the Mi 9T too, the experience with that device was similar ti when I had the Mi Mix with its 4500mah and full screen.
Hello guys!
I've watched a couple of videos of Poco x3 and was kinda impressed by the performance and what the device has to offer. My question is if it would be a smart thing getting this device (I currently use a S10 lite) considering the cameras seem to be better on the Poco especially the front cam. I'm not a heavy gamer by any means so it's not my main focus in a phone. I want to hear you guys think and what your experience using the poco is
Regards
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Hello guys!
I've watched a couple of videos of Poco x3 and was kinda impressed by the performance and what the device has to offer. My question is if it would be a smart thing getting this device (I currently use a S10 lite) considering the cameras seem to be better on the Poco especially the front cam. I'm not a heavy gamer by any means so it's not my main focus in a phone. I want to hear you guys think and what your experience using the poco is
Regards
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As much as I love Poco, I would stay with S10 Lite.
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As much as I love Poco, I would stay with S10 Lite.
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Agreed :good:
I'll third that. There just isn't the much to gain for the money I think.
Arnova is about to build gcam 8 for poco x3
It will give the best picture quality
Thanks for the input guys. I'm just wondering since the 120 hz screen seems smoother than s10 lite's 60 hz screen. Also as I mentioned the camera especially the selfie-cam on poco seems better. I also like the fact that poco has IP rating and stereo speaker which the s10 lite lacks both of..
And another thing that's bothering me is the lack of development in custom roms for the s10 lite compared to poco...
Most if not all issues some people are having with the X3 isn't hardware related. Miui12 not really optimised for this phone yet and with more custom rom support i'd stick with X3. It's still the best bang for buck phone imo
Buy poco just for fun if you have the cash, I got 2 of them, just to keep a daily and mess with custom roms.
120Hz might be tempting but it's not really fixed 120 and most importantly it's an LCD display. If you decide to get the x3 just remember that from now on GREY is your new BLACK. My 2 years old HUAWEI tablet (also an IPS panel) has better contrast,viewing angles and deeper blacks.
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Arnova is about to build gcam 8 for poco x3
It will give the best picture quality
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When and where bro?
Update: I actually bought a Poco x3,and I must say it feels smoother than S10 Lite and the LCD screen is actually a very good one, so I don't notice all that much of a difference between the S10 lite and the Poco. Also the poco has a bigger community than s10 lite which is good .
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Please go here for what you need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-sensor-id.4265251/post-84879149
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Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Yeah, the very notable difference for this phone is it's cheap price for it's spec.
For some people, 3.5mm jack together with microSD is better.
And something different from the Redmi Note 7 Pro that you didn't told is the UFS 3.1 internal storage. This makes read/write very fast. So for photos and games, it's faster. That's also the reason other than the SOC that makes it very smooth and snappy.
I had a Nokia 7 Plus for about two years before and the X3 Pro is a rocket by comparison. I also thought about getting the Note 10 Pro for a while, but the "bad" SoC put me off. OLED is of course nice to have, but without a real always-on display it is of little use in my opinion. In any case, I am more than satisfied with the X3 Pro in all respects. MIUI and all the bloatware is an evil abomination if you were only used to Vanilla Android before, but thanks to ADB you can fix a lot.
I switched from Moto G5 Plus and I find this phone much better in almost every aspect, except size
I don't care much about photo quality, they are good enough for me.
Screen seems to be dimmer than on my old Moto. Colors are ok, I like that it supports reading mode without relying on third party apps. I don't need smooth animations so 60Hz is enough for me.
Storage - I had to buy model with bigger storage as I need dual sim active all the time.
Audio quality on headphones (cable and BT) is very good.
Battery (after playing with location settings to stop drain) life is satisfying. Charging is super fast.
Performance - I don't play games that requires all that power so for every day use I find it outstanding.
Ocassionally I need to calibrate location (?) sensors in some apps, might need to find more permanent solution.