Hello Community !
I rly dont know what is better, i saw awesome cam shots and videos made with the Mi Note 10 but the Poco F2 Pro is newer and yea ... is it better? I dont know, what do you guys think? Some of you have already some month this Mi Note 10 Phone and whats your opinion about it?
I hope you can help me a little bit
- https://www.mi.com/de/poco-f2-pro/ (8k recording, Snapdragon™
865 , 5G connection, 4700mAh, full display without a notch etc)
- https://www.mi.com/de/mi-note-10/
i was about to get the poco f2 aswell, but decided for the mi note 10 LITE (350€).
the camera sensor on the mi note 10 LITE would be the same like on the poco f2. Sony IMX686 which seems perfect for GCam mods.
the normal note 10 has a samsung sensor, which is "better" specs wise. but i heard multiple times that many prefer the sony sensor in the note 10 LITE (gcam advantages).
regarding the mi note 10 (lite):
performance is perfectly fine on the snapdragon 730g. [email protected] is max. here. i dont miss anything when it comes to performance (iam not a gamer though!).
battery is now even better on android 10 what i have heard. usually getting 8-10h SoT
5g is a useless feature for me. 4g is far enough and it can reach higher distances.
notch can be hidden via UI settings.
if you need massive gaming performance and 8k recording, the s865 is a must then.
As for the main sensors I dont think there is noticeable difference. (IMO sony probably the better choice when using gcam).
The main difference is that with note 10 you get OIS, which you don't get with poco f2. And you also get zoom camera with OIS.
Poco f2 will probably have better and faster processing due to the SD865, which assists HDR prosessing and video. It also has a decent macro camera.
So it is a close race, I'd probably say the note 10 has the most versatile camera system with OIS. But else the poco wins in every aspect. Better performance, no-notch screen, better batterytime ( note 10 battery time is not so impressive despite the large battery, my mi 9t with 4000mah last longer for example).
regarding the battery questions, which was quite important to me:
https://www.chinahandys.net/xiaomi-mi-note-10-lite-testbericht/#akku
https://www.chinahandys.net/poco-f2-pro-testbericht/#akkulaufzeit
Note10LITE > Note10 > POCOF2
As for the note 10 lite you get a downgrade on almost all cameras vs note 10.
No OIS is the most noticeable one. But also downgraded ultrawide, selfie and no zoom.
If want a god camera Note 10 , if not No one, better a Oneplus 7 pro , poco its ok but ith the price 350 eu not 500 3u like a 7pro.
Mi note 10 with 350/400 eu its the best camera phone overall...
Hi DerSky1,
I have both phones here in my hands. Since january this year i was using the Note 10, and I was ordering the Poco F2 Pro, arriving last week.
What is bad about the Note 10?:
-Processor, lags on webpages with lot of advertisment ****.
-Processor, 108MP Pictures take some time to be processed, so you have to wait to shoot the next, as well as to see you shot after taking...
-fingerprint scanner seems to be more slowly than on Poco F2 pro
What is bad about the Poco F2 Pro?:
-The displays color accuracy is not as good as on the Note 10 (more blue)
-No FM-Radio
- IMX686 Sony Sensor is tiny compared to the Samsung 108Mpx from the Note, resulting in, i would say not as good pictures...
What makes no difference:
- batterie lasts same on both phones
-Size is similar, Poco is a bit longer
- Note 10 has a curved display, poco f2 not.
-Charging Speed in real life is very similar.
- 5G in Poco as there is no area wide 5G network in Germany for the next 2 years at least
My conclusion:
Sell the Poco, think of getting a Mi 10, or wait until note 11... hopefully with SD 765G
Fell free to ask further questions.
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
OC-Freak said:
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_poco_f2_pro-review-2116p3.php
Gsm arena review of the poco f2, as expected.the batterylife is excellent, and beating mi note 10 ( and all other sd865 phones!)
Bit conserning is the inconsistent camera performance. This could have been better if it had OIS.
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Glad I got the Mi Note 10 Pro, I had actually ordered the F2 Pro, but at the beggining of the shipment was damage and the seller decided to cancel the purchase I made. I was nervous about the review of the F2 pro on YouTube because they switched out the telephoto camera that was in the Redmi K30 Pro Zoom, and switch out the lens with a Macro Camera, which I have little interest in. After the shiment was cancelled, I ordered the Mi Note 10 Pro. What I really lime about the F2 pro reminds me of when I owned the Mi 9T, and I love you have more options to change the color of the pop-up camere, which the Mi 9T only have one color - (depending of the color of the phone you purchased).
After owning the Xiaomi Mi 9T, which sports the same chip as the Mi Note 10/10 Pro, the battery size was the only let down, the mid range chipset is more than acceptable YouTube and media consumption. Since its an Amoled screen, I rather use a PC or console or tablet only because I prefer not to over use Amoled screens in general = screen burns. I really love the camera on the Mi Note 10 Pro, the curved screen took some time to get used too, esoecially the texting. The texting gotten better once choosing to expanding the edge accidental touch option.. But once I slapped on a slim TPU screen protector on, the screen feels amazing. Have tried a tempered glass on the Mi Note 10, those screens do jot work and takes away from the screen sensitivity. TPU and Hydrogel is the way to go.
The battery usage is amazing and after tweaking more with the CPU processor to 300Mhz minimum, and adb shell-ing out useless apps. I can say this phone is worth getting. Using the latest Xiaomi EU is amazing, I also have tried Miui 12 weekly 5.28, I like the smooth zooming capabilities of the telephoto cameras. The high screen refresh rate take some getting use to, the sooth movements makes my eyes hurt a bit, haha. Feels a bit "too" buttery smooth, but the positive side to the situation is the smooth scrolling in web pages, apps and in general. The smooth scrolling eliminate any microlags left behind from Miui 11, and that is a huge plus ( using Xiaomi Eu 5.28) I am sure Miui 12 will get much better, especially with this phone.
I don't particularly go for high end phones, but.........If the Poco brand release the Poco F2 Pro Zoom, then it will be worth buying only because I love the Xiaomi Mi 9T.
I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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I also came from Mi 9T (best all-round/bang for buck phone 2019 IMO), mainly for OIS in the MI note 10.
And my observations (compared to 9T); battery life of mi note 10 noticeably worse despite larger battery. This has improved with android 10, but still not what I'd expect from the battery size (maybe the visionox amoled display is more power hungry?). Not really much improvement from the main camera in most situations (Using gcam on both phones) but easier to get better night shots, but more versatile camera system overall for mi note 10 of course. Mi note 10 has better quality display, but with the hated notch! And I do not really enjoy the curved egdes that gives distorted image quality along the edges, but I can live with it.
And I agree, it is a pity that poco f2 is not based on the zoom edition. OIS + zoom camera is a major dealbreaker.
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Very true, I would be great if they release a Pro edition. Meanwhile it seems like the Mi Note 10 will have another variant with a Snapdragon 775 and 12x optical zoom, possibly with periscope zoom. Plus support for 120x digital zoom. For sure when more details will be reveal soon, I will definitely stick with this phone until its succesor arrive.
I realy love the Mi 9T too, the experience with that device was similar ti when I had the Mi Mix with its 4500mah and full screen.
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I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.
I love my MI 10 PRO.
I come from Oneplus and for now I don't miss its software at all. Miui 11 is doing very well. And when Miui 12 arrives, it'll be much better.
Stereo speakers are great for music, videos, etc.
Fast charging is fantastic, and the screen makes me 8 hours on!!!!
They are 2 good phones. I did the same thing but I will keep the OnePlus 8 pro. Do not disturb mode is essential to me, I need to be available for many times in a month during night hours. I need to receive calls from anyone and no notification sound and on the Mi 10 / Mi 10 pro do not disturb mode doesn't work (like most xiaomi phones). Even in miui 12 beta.
So... There is anything else I can do....
Have had both of them same time..they are both great phones,1+8 litle bit smoothier but with 1H less screen sot,mi 10 pro better speakers(best in phone i have heard till now) screens almost same in terms of quality/brightness..
But there is a but..many people having issues with 1+8 pro screens so its a big deal for me that..overall i can call it like a tie in terms of what to choose.
Grimm-reaper said:
I bought Oneplus 8 pro because of mi10 pro was not available in time when I have done purchase. I consider now return my 8 pro and buy mi 10 pro? Is it worth to do that? Does mi10 pro is overall really much better than 8 pro? I have a lot of Xiaomi accessories and I am used to Xiaomi smartphone. My one concern is miui... How mi10 pro keep background task and Have you noticed notification issue one this device? It was always a huge pain on Xiaomi device and only one reason which prevent me from swapping right now.
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Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)
deus_ex_yue said:
Both phones haves pros and cons.
MI 10 PRO
PROS
Better camera quality with zooms from 2x to 10x. With MIUI 12 it will get better with new functions, night mode 3.0 and new interface.
Better stereo speakers
Good battery life (with 90Hz display it goes from 5 to 8 SoT depending on use) - With MIUI 12 it will receive 120Hz option, i must retest battery life
Good screen (FHD+ is good for resolution and save battery instead of WQHD+)
CONS
108MP camera is not "easy" to use. It's big with a la low f. value. Focus point is very small but natural bokeh is amazing. You should take a lot of pictures to understand how it works.
Big and heavy.
ONEPLUS 8 PRO
PROS
Better UI. Oxygen is faster and smoother
Better support. OnePlus beta is a very good program
Better design of the back
CONS
Good camera setup but not yet a top cameraphone
Battery is slighlty under MI 10 pro (with WQHD and 120HZ from 4 to 5 hours of SoT depending on use - with FHD and 120Hz from 4 to 6 hours)
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Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.
You missed the wonderful fast charge of the MI 10 PRO. I'm totally impressed.
About the battery life is spectacular. I do 8 hours of screen!!!
About the software, I have to say that my previous mobile was Oneplus and to this day, they don't miss anything.
Miui 11 is a marvel and tomorrow now comes Miui 12 which will be even better.
Jinthegodstyle said:
Hello,about 120HZ on MIUI 12 did you read it somewhere or you just believe that will be?
Thanks in advance.
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
deus_ex_yue said:
MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Wow.. that's awesome! Good to have it for try.. not necessary to have it because of battery drain,but to be there for some times it's nice!
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Does it work?
I come from the OP7 Pro, mainly switched to the Mi 10 Pro because of the camera. Also, the OP8 pro looks too similar to my Op7 Pro IMO. These also got rid of the amazing popup camera. The screen on the op8 pro ist way too curvy at the edge IMO. You can unlock the bootloader on both of them. MIUI 11 runs perfect for me, but Oxygen OS is also perfect IMO.
Just pick the one you prefer.
I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.
vodovodo said:
I come from OnePlus 8 pro and I don't get the fuzz about oxygen os which is very poooooor compared to miui !!!
For example.
In xiaomi.eu rom the music player can act exactly like YouTube premium. No ads and can play in the background
With mi browser YouTube with no ads and you can easily download media from Facebook and Instagram.
Actually there is a video tools can make any video app play in the background
Plus battery life and charging speeds
Speakers quality
Camera is better quality and functions
Qhd is nice. But nah.
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Oxygen os is known to be a snappy os. Do you find it snappier than miui?
First of all trust me It is OVERRATED!
Used to be the snappiest yes but not anymore for a long time. Please check phonebuff speed test between the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung note 10 plus... Yes Samsung oneui !!!! and you will be shocked that even Samsung is faster!
It's a poor limited os compared to others! Reviewers is paid to say it's snappy. That's all
MI 10 Pro: 10/10
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MIUI internal test firmware on Mi 10 pro.
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Thats Not the Mi 10 pro.
Thats the Mi 10pro PLUS which will come Out soon.
Hello
Next week im buying new mobile and need your help to choose one
My deliberation is among the following devices:
Mi 10 8/256: (we have no Mi 10 Pro in my country )
Pros:
( + ) Good camera
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Good screen.
( + ) Good Speakers.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
Pocophone F2 Pro 8/256:
Pros:
( + ) Good cooling.
( + ) Good battery life.
( + ) Fast.
Cons:
( - ) Weak vibration motor.
( - ) Lack of OIS on cam just EIS.
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom
OnePlus 8 256/12:
Pros:
( + ) Good Speakers.
( + ) 12GB RAM.
( + ) Near stock android.
Cons:
( - ) No Portrait Telephoto zoom.
( - ) Mediocre camera
( - ) Small battery compared to Mi10 / F2 PRO
Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better
One thing the OnePlus 8 has going for it is the dev community is good.
I thought this phone would have more Devs!
The poco f2 pro camera is a very good camera, macro mode is amazing, and the gcam make a perfect work.
I only wait a more kinds of roms for this beast.
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Who told you the vibration is bad on the Poco f2 pro?
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So it's simple, if you care about camera, go for mi 10.
If you care about a full screen display without a horrible punch hole, go for Poco f2
Out of these 3 , there's not reason to go for OnePlus. Mi 10 has a bigger battery, bigger screen, and looks better
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MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys
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MKHD mentioned that the vibration motor is "fine" thats why i've mentioned it.
Anyone has Mi 10 Non-pro \ Pocophone F2 Pro and give their opinion?
2nd question, do you think that 8GB ram is enough for the next 2yr's?
That's why i was considering the OP8 256/12 in first place
Again thanks helping me guys
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I can compare the vibra motor to a mi 9t pro and even to an iPhone 11 pro max (I own both as well as the poco). I have to say I quite like it. Its a great improvement from the last years mi 9t pro and not falling much behind of the iPhone. Over all its a good experience.
Why do you think 8gb isn't enough? I strongly recommend you to read about how a smartphone memory works. Unused Ram can also have a hit on the battery life. Therefore as others suggested I wouldn't go for the OP 8Pro, don't even mention its nearly double the price of the poco. GL with your purchase.
I'm seeing 5-6gb ram usage on my F2 Pro. Still plenty to spare.
I only see 1 phone better than Poco F2 if you are willing to pay more, and it's the Oneplus 8 Pro, I prefer the Poco F2 Pro over Mi 10 and normal Oneplus 8.
So my recomendation is if you want pay more get the Oneplus 8 Pro not the normal version, if you want better price and this year phone Poco F2 Pro is the best one quality/price. And counting 2019 phones Realme X2 Pro or Oneplus 7T are amazing also.
Many thanks guys going for the F2Pro
Btw these arrived today from AliExpress
Hope they are good...
Nice one mate. I'm sure you'll enjoy this phone. Can't put mine down lol.
I was deciding between the exact same devices. The OnePlus 8 Pro and the Poco F2 Pro. Although I kind of see different pros and cons.
For myself I don't play games and would choose the lower res and lower refresh screen to get additional hours in battery.
I don't do a lot of photos, so can likely get by without OIS on the camera. The option for to have the headphone jack, pop up camera, infrared and longer battery was enough to make me go for the Poco F2 Pro.
I haven't received one yet, but ordered one, so I hope I haven't made a mistake. Still no custom ROMs for this phone, so hopefully there are some options soon.
I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
OnePlus 8 Pro
Pros: 120Htz Screen, Wireless Charging, Water Proof, Camera
Cons: No headphone jack, front camera hole punch
Poco F2 Pro
Pros: Price, Battery life, headphone jack, pop up camera (for security reasons), InfraRed (old, but handy), full display with no cut out
Cons: No OIS on Camera, More limited with custom ROMs than OnePlus
birleytweet said:
I probably won't open the phone until there's some ROMs, if I can't get LineageOS for it, I'll probably sell it and go for the OnePlus 8 Pro.
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There's a 7 day cool down on bootloader unlock for this device so I'd recommend you do the unlock process when you first get it to start the timer. This won't unlock the phone unless you do the unlock process again after 7 days.
That way you can unlock and start modding whenever you are ready rather than waiting 7 days from the point you decide to start modding.
Hi,
I've been saving to get a Mi 9T pro for quite some time... and of course now it isn't available at a reasonable price, so my eyes are on a Poco F2 Pro (i live in Europe right now).
My only requirements would be:
mandatory:
- headphone jack (check)
- Super AMOLED without bloody hole (who would do that??) (can you confirm it is a super amoled screen like mi 9T pro and Mi 9 lite, not just amoled (like Mi 9T) please?) (check i guess)
slightly less important:
- stereo speakers (not checked, i live w/o it i guess! cause in that price range i can't find anything, specially with the 2 first requirements)
- microSD slot (ok i'll plug it more often then...)
and last but not least:
- good community regarding development, tweaks, custom roms and so on => will this one be checked one day ? What do you think ? I see sources are out but missing a lot of parts... are people gonna get some enthusiasm on that phone at one point ? (so, yeah, if somebody could tell me the future ^^ and the next lottery numbers while you're at it...)
So, well, maybe I'm too demanding, what do you guys think, and is there a way to be happy with stock MIUI (debloating?) to begin with ?
Sorry if all of that was already address, I take my chances asking my concern to the community before I buy anything as it is a big expense for me.
THANKS A LOT for your time and your help
Cheers !
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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Hesitating between the OnePlus Nord and the F2 Pro too, considering the F2 is vastly superior for less than 100 bucks more. If only I had some time to get back in the dev community... Some OmniROM on this things would be nice
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OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
LaMarMôt said:
OnePlus Nord seems nice, but:
slighty less processing power (still a lot)
LPDDR4X RAM vs LPDDR5 (still totally fine!!)
no cooling system
no LED (lol)
no jack
no IR (^^)
but:
maybe better screen (a bit smaller though)
probably better camera (OIS)
lighter weight (but no IP and plastic design)
so that could do it...
BUT.... has a f*** hole in the screen !
Let us know if you pick one
And may the time be with you one day to build some code
Cheers !
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What? No, the f2 has better screen. Well as long as you don't care about Refresh rate. But touch sampling is better 120 Vs 180 on the f2
Camera is better on the f2 even with ois
LaMarMôt said:
How do you compare the screen of K20 Pro and F2 pro ?
Same same ?
One plus 7T pro seems nice, still expensive though, and no jack -p) but good development i guess...
Cheers !
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I can not say for Poco F2 Pro/K30 Pro as I have the Zoom edition (different hardware) but the Zoom has slightly brighter screen than K20 Pro. I had for the short time Oneplus 7T pro. it had better color accuracy and 90 Hz
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reliot said:
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
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why? I think poco f2pro is a good cheap and balance phone.
reliot said:
I would suggest getting Mi9T pro/K20 Pro or better yet get One plus 7T pro. I have K30 Pro Zoom edition and K20 Pro.
To your points:
Both have headphone jack.
Both very nice screen. K30Pro/PocoF2 Pro has bigger screen. There are reports here that the poco F2 Pro may have yellow/green tint. Mine has perfect screen no issues
Stereo has K20Pro ... sort of, if u mod it otherwise no stereo for both phones
No SD Card slot for both.
Also both have USB 2.0 speed on USB C port. Speed is around 30 MB/s
I will bet poco F2 pro will not get development community as did K20 Pro.
I use on both phones Chinese MIUI with heavy debloatet script and magisk module. I have better experience this way than any other ROM (even miui eu)
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It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
Suraj Pandey said:
It will get bettter development community than K20 pro lol. Just wait for it to launch in India and you'll see official custom ROMs in just 4-5 weeks.
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Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
LaMarMôt said:
Do you know when the launch date would be in India ?
Cheers !
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13th August
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13th August
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Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
Amazing phone, but MIUI with zero custom rom development is a no-go for me.
I have the poco f2 pro and owned 2 mi9t pro before as well. The phone is not bad but not great. Have it over a month now, miui 12 was a nice improvement but I see some bugs since the update. The screen sometimes go dark and take a good few seconds to recover. Happened when using chrome or various other apps. I had to even reboot at one point because it didn't recover. I know a wipe could resolve the issue just too lazy to do it and I only see the above bug a few times.
Comparing to the mi9t pro it has much nicer features such as the harptic feedback is nicer. Camera and touch response is also better, not even mention the longer battery life. However due to the size and weight I did find the mi9t pro much more usable. I have small hand and for me does require 2 hands to operate cause I cannot reach much with one hand.
Custom rom does exist check xiaomi.eu but its very limited compare how the mi9t pro\k20 pro was. I'm not planning to mess around with roms just wanted a device which works, this doesn't really bothers me.
Is it worth it? Hmm the market is fludded with good devices, if you want a full screen display there isn't much option available, the cut out or teardrop style is more common then anything else. The answer is subjective but owning the device I may look around and chose a different one.
Since this phone will 100% sure get Android 11 , I think most logical way forward (from dev perspective) is wait for that release before doing any custom ROM. Doing it now with current release base (its buggy too) is probably waste of time.
This is not the first phone with the same situation happened before.
I own both mi9t pro 128gb and k30 pro 256gb (zoom edition) and I can certainly says it surely an upgrade especially when you do gaming often.
Im not sure about everybody else, but in my experience, mi9t pro do stutter in games from time to time which I suspect comes from thermal throttling. On the other hand, my k30 pro did not have such issue at all. Mind you, it was both on miui 12 latest stable rom.
Oh yes, plus the added benefit of getting UFS 3.1, LPDDR5, bigger battery, IR blaster, faster charging, bigger battery, latest chipset, 5G (future-proofing), and most importantly for me, the OIS on both telephoto and main camera lens enable me to take long exposure and night shot without those blurry image. 3x telephoto lens not just better in zooming but also double as macro lens with AF! I can zoom up to 30x and have a decent moon-shot, albeit not so great but still good enough. All in all, its well worth to be considered as an upgrade.
Before i forgot, yes the screen is definitely super amoled, which comes with good factory-calibration on "Standard" or "Original" mode. P3 and sRGB mode as preset are great option to have which mi9t pro really missing.
LordWurstbrot said:
Source for that release date?
Because I just read that India will not get the phone at all!
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Yup. Poco f2 pro won't launch in India. They'll launch it as K30 Pro. It is because of this Covid situation that launch has been delayed. Also Xiaomi India is trying to clear their existing stocks of K20 pro before launching K30 Pro
I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
wait for pixel 5 4a with 765 processor is uber trash
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I am cosidering between the Google Pixel 4a (340€) vs the POCO F2 Pro (399€),
Which one do you guys think is the better choice?
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Now POCO F2 Pro is about 300,00€ in Italy. That is a so low price for these specs (Snapdragon 865), if there are two big lack:
1. no slot card at all and
2. no development due to the fact that the source code tree is partially hidden in order to block the development.
It seems like there's a collusion between the phone house to give a price to the possibility of development.
Actually google pixel it costs much more than the value of the money suggests for its specs.
Like "future development of the phone" must be paid by the costumers. That is my paranoia. :confuso:
i'm a heavy RAW photography shooter via the ultrawide lens , and from what i've researched im tempted to get a CC9 pro ~$370 USD and shoot computational RAWs with gcam with it. With this price range, there seems to be a huge explosion of "flagship killers" like the POCO F2 / X3, K30 Ultra, Realme X2/X7 etc. While all of these seem to have really competitive processors like the Dimensity 1000+ being almost equiv to SD865, none of them have as good cameras as the Mi note 10 especially the ultrawide.
It's VERY difficult to find any phone with a good sensor for the ultrawide, phone companies just dont seem to care. The only other one is Huawei Mate 30 pro but it doesnt support google pay and that's a deal breaker.
Is the CC9 Pro my best option...?
Thanks,
Hi, for this price range is for sure the best option. Other competitors better with ultrawide (bigger sensor/ better lens) would be probably closest as you mentioned Huawei Mate 30 Pro, P40 Pro, OP 8 Pro and newest samsung s20 series. Also Xiaomi M10 Ultra seems with same sensor, but updated lens design - providing less distortion and better details.
Do know, when you shoot RAW, gcam or stock cam does not provide distortion correction - so you have to do it afterwards in post-processing software. Love the output from gcam, can manage all preferences and detail, denoise etc. With adequate settings and provided very good light, it is really usable next to my DSLR in photoshoots (don't have wide angle lens). With little post production photos comes astonishing (especially from tripod and night sight astro setting). If you don't raise expectations too high - it won't disappoint!
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Can anyone check the sensors on the X3 PRO?
F3 is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/attachments/screenshot_2021-05-29-10-06-24-239_ru-andr7e-deviceinfohw-jpg.5323087/
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Please go here for what you need.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/camera-sensor-id.4265251/post-84879149
rafa_apmm said:
Hey guys, what are your thoughts about this phone? I have bought one last week, my previously phone was a one plus 3t (quite old).
I think it was a nice upgrade, very snappy, câmera is good, and the price is on point.
I read about the screen being way worst comparing to the OLED, but i think is okay, colours and brightness wise.
I dont know how to feel about the MIUI interface since i come from oxygenOS, also phone is a bit on the heavy side and the back vibrates a lot when the volume is mid/high.
How has been your experiences?
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Well, to be honest, I am dissapointed with the phone. I upgraded from Redmi Note 7 Pro and the only thing Poco has better is the performance and dual speakers. Everything is super smooth and snappy. The screen, besides having 120Hz refresh rate is no different than redmi notes' screen. And that is about it. Everything else is not even as good as on Redmi Note 7 Pro. The camera on my redmi note takes noticeably better pictures. The audio quality (in-call and media) is also noticeably better on my redmi note. Even though Poco has larger battery (5160 vs 4000 mAh) usage time is about the same. Plus, poco is a very thiccc phone... So, two years between phones and only the performance is an upgrade, everything else is basically a downgrade. I wish i bought Redmi Note 10 Pro, but that phone is almost 100 EUR more expensive here.
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Yeah, the very notable difference for this phone is it's cheap price for it's spec.
For some people, 3.5mm jack together with microSD is better.
And something different from the Redmi Note 7 Pro that you didn't told is the UFS 3.1 internal storage. This makes read/write very fast. So for photos and games, it's faster. That's also the reason other than the SOC that makes it very smooth and snappy.
I had a Nokia 7 Plus for about two years before and the X3 Pro is a rocket by comparison. I also thought about getting the Note 10 Pro for a while, but the "bad" SoC put me off. OLED is of course nice to have, but without a real always-on display it is of little use in my opinion. In any case, I am more than satisfied with the X3 Pro in all respects. MIUI and all the bloatware is an evil abomination if you were only used to Vanilla Android before, but thanks to ADB you can fix a lot.
I switched from Moto G5 Plus and I find this phone much better in almost every aspect, except size
I don't care much about photo quality, they are good enough for me.
Screen seems to be dimmer than on my old Moto. Colors are ok, I like that it supports reading mode without relying on third party apps. I don't need smooth animations so 60Hz is enough for me.
Storage - I had to buy model with bigger storage as I need dual sim active all the time.
Audio quality on headphones (cable and BT) is very good.
Battery (after playing with location settings to stop drain) life is satisfying. Charging is super fast.
Performance - I don't play games that requires all that power so for every day use I find it outstanding.
Ocassionally I need to calibrate location (?) sensors in some apps, might need to find more permanent solution.