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I am debating if I should sell my Huawai Mate 8 NXT-L10. It is Mocha and full spec. I installed the International ROM, but considering getting the NXT-29 so I don't have to worry about OTA and such.
I don't speak/read Chinese and notice that the Chinese ROM still has messages that show up in Chinese despite English language setting. On the international ROM, I don't come across Chinese at all.
Trying to decide if I should sell my chinese one and just get the international one. I am in San Francisco, and bought directly in China with receipt, so don't think hard to sell. But getting international version seems difficult.
Thoughts? Are there any other differences between AL10 and L29?
nope, just software and 1 different supported LTE band, thats about it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
if its too much hassle to manually install the software and if u absolutely HAVE to have the latest OTA at the time point of release then yeah, go for the L29
Keep Chinese ROM
I'd personally keep the Chinese firmware for a while. The only thing I'm waiting for is rooting my beast to be able to remove some of the built in Chinese crapware I don't understand.
If I'm to wish for something, I'd want a Mate 8 with Nexus Android with nothing at all but the OS and Google apps. Unfortunately, all the Nexus phones I am aware of have no SD card support which for me is fundamental even with my Mate 8 (128 GB internal memory)
HuaweiMate8 said:
I'd personally keep the Chinese firmware for a while. The only thing I'm waiting for is rooting my beast to be able to remove some of the built in Chinese crapware I don't understand.
If I'm to wish for something, I'd want a Mate 8 with Nexus Android with nothing at all but the OS and Google apps. Unfortunately, all the Nexus phones I am aware of have no SD card support which for me is fundamental even with my Mate 8 (128 GB internal memory)
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I want too. I wonder if that ROM will ever make it.
I think there is no 64/128 gb version of the L29.
64/4gb versions have popped up already, havent seen any 128 models though
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That is the strange thing. I have been reading an excellent post here h_ttp://anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review under Introduction and Design, and it seems there is no 128 GB overseas version!
That's because 128gb model is China exclusive
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sirpaul82 said:
That's because 128gb model is China exclusive
Wysłane z mojego SM-G928F przy użyciu Tapatalka
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Ok, that is what I thought, but a question comes to my mind which is: Even if we could flash the overseas ROM on the Chinese device, will this work fine or would there be some features that won't work or HW failures or malfunctions? Personally, I'm OK with the Chinese version and happy to receive OTA updates, all I want is a root access to remove the unwanted applications.
By the way, I updated my NXT-AL10C00B137 to NXT-AL10C00B156 and I haven't noticed any bug or issues. I am not rooted and have the stock firmware. I live in Italy and I updated over WiFi.
once u root u lose capability of receiving OTA updates.
ive been on an international rom B133 from day one without any issues and im on the chinese model AL10 theyre so similar, almost identical in their hardware, that crossflashing roms doesnt seem to be a problem.
chrisabruce said:
I am debating if I should sell my Huawai Mate 8 NXT-L10. It is Mocha and full spec. I installed the International ROM, but considering getting the NXT-29 so I don't have to worry about OTA and such.
I don't speak/read Chinese and notice that the Chinese ROM still has messages that show up in Chinese despite English language setting. On the international ROM, I don't come across Chinese at all.
Trying to decide if I should sell my chinese one and just get the international one. I am in San Francisco, and bought directly in China with receipt, so don't think hard to sell. But getting international version seems difficult.
Thoughts? Are there any other differences between AL10 and L29?
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The differences between AL10 and L29 could be that AL10 has Dual SIM active and L29 has dual SIM standby.
knudknud3 said:
The differences between AL10 and L29 could be that AL10 has Dual SIM active and L29 has dual SIM standby.
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What is the difference between active sim and standby sim? Also, is there a difference for certain versions keeping some Chinese?
That's not true. L29 is also Dual SIM active. There is no difference in Dual Sim function between AL10 and L29.
Darriousx said:
What is the difference between active sim and standby sim? Also, is there a difference for certain versions keeping some Chinese?
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Dual SIM standby: you can have 2 SIM cards but only use one at a time.
Dual SIM active: you can have 2 SIM cards and use them simultaneous f.ex. make a call on one card and surfe the net on the other or surfe the net on one card and receive a call on the other card.
There are 3 versions of Mate 8.
2 universel : one with dual SIM standby and one with single SIM: m.huawei com
1 chinese with dual SIM full active: etotalk com
I would say that NXT-AL10 is the best one - also most expencive.
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jano666 said:
That's not true. L29 is also Dual SIM active. There is no difference in Dual Sim function between AL10 and L29.
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Take a look at GSMARENA, they can tell you otherwise.
knudknud3
I don't have to check it on GSMARENA because i have got this phone and I know, how it works. Do you have this phone or just distribute false information? I have got L29 C432 and everyday I use Dual Sim active functionality.
You'd better go to shop and check it personally.
On internet portals like gsmarena there is lots of errors in specs. Those webs are not reliable sources of any specs informations.
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look at this thread and read it from beginning to the end, if you don't believe me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/dual-sim-dual-active-t3381640
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knudknud3
I don't have to check it on GSMARENA because i have got this phone and I know, how it works. Do you have this phone or just distribute false information? I have got L29 C432 and everyday I use Dual Sim active functionality.
You'd better go to shop and check it personally.
On internet portals like gsmarena there is lots of errors in specs. Those webs are not reliable sources of any specs informations.
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look at this thread and read it from beginning to the end, if you don't believe me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/dual-sim-dual-active-t3381640
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Of course I believe you. But that thread is saying nothing. Copycat is only confirming. Grofock is talking about AL10 (to me the real DSA/DSDA phone). Tsiglas is not explaining understandable (to me).
I hope you can explain to me in simple words, how you can do two different things AT THE SAME TIME on your phone. Please.
I've asked you to read this thread till the end... copysat AND tsiglas confirm, that L29 is Dual Sim Full Active. I confirm it too AS L29 OWNER. We know what we say, because we have got this phone.
It seems, that you have never had this phone, but you insist that L29 is not Dual Sim Active, because you have read about it on the website.
3 persons having this phone confirm, it is DS active, but you still says it means nothing....So i'm sorry, but I think there is no method to explain you anything, because it is impossible, that you can understand something more.
To the author of topic: don't listen to knudknud3. L29 and AL 10 have the same Dual Sim Active functionality. I confirm that as an European L29 owner.
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I've asked you to read this thread till the end... copysat AND tsiglas confirm, that L29 is Dual Sim Full Active. I confirm it too AS L29 OWNER. We know what we say, because we have got this phone.
It seems, that you have never had this phone, but you insist that L29 is not Dual Sim Active, because you have read about it on the website.
3 persons having this phone confirm, it is DS active, but you still says it means nothing....So i'm sorry, but I think there is no method to explain you anything, because it is impossible, that you can understand something more.
To the author of topic: don't listen to knudknud3. L29 and AL 10 have the same Dual Sim Active functionality. I confirm that as an European L29 owner.
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I am sorry, but can you at least tell me, where I can buy a phone like yours.
Does anyone know, really, what are the differences between the versions NXT-AL10 and NXT-AL29?
It has to do with the regions where they are sold?
The software is different from one version to another?
I ask this questions is because I've read almost all of the post on this forum, and frankly, I could not understand what the differences are...
IMHO I think the answer to this question is the key in order to install the different versions that are not yet available, but certainly in the near future will be.
By the way, my Mate 8 has the NXT-AL10C00B156 version. It is the Chinese or international version?
As others have said, I am also impressed with the overall performance of this machine, and my only disappointment results from the pre-installed software that has huge Chinese junk (of course, no offense to the Chinese people I greatly respect).
Thanks a lot
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
Do you guys think we'll be able to flash the Chinese models into fully thinking they're L29?
good question, no idea. in principle, wed only need to manipulate the device name in about phone, so as to fool future OTA´s
I had the 10, returned for the 29 with preloaded Google Apps. I was having an issue on the Chinese version with Google Apps and my Google account. The Chinese language on some apps was annoying as well. Now with the International version all is good. Plus it was cheaper.
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AL10.... you can get 128gb version, l29 you cant.
ALL THAT SPACE.
DaffyOnLSD said:
AL10.... you can get 128gb version, l29 you cant.
ALL THAT SPACE.
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Some of you guys have any idea if briefly there will be a European version of the L29 ,as to L10 this will never happen ...
That would be ideal as we would be with 64 (which is my case ) or 128GB and the fully functional mobile phone !
Hi All,
I bought TL00 (China Mobile). Can I root it? And flash international rom?
hm, where are u located? have u made sure that it works with sim cards from carriers other than china mobile? just wondering
aside from that, some others have already flashed the international rom on their carrier locked china devices. although it didnt seem to help in terms of sim card functionality, the firmwares did seem to work. no promises though!
Huawei mate 8 NXT-AL10C00B156
Hi all,
Got my phone with all kind of chinese apps which ofcourse where of no use for me, as i do not speak Chinese. It came with google play store though so i was able to not only get rid of the apps they allowed me to delete and inhabilitated others. Installed all I wanted and more or less I am happy. The phone is absolutely great with 128GB and do not feel any yearning to the many samsungs I had in the past and got fed up about, and which I always bought in Asia with Dual sim i need for my double geaographical life. Would only wish to get the European version if their is guarantee that it works. I am far from an expert but have installed several times in the past different IOS via ODIN with good result. If anybody has tried this change with succes from the chinese IOS to the European variant, kindly indicate.
Thanks in advance,
Br
Tonardus
just read through the mate 8 subforums here, there is all the info u need in order to install the international rom on the chinese model
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jbmc83 said:
just read through the mate 8 subforums here, there is all the info u need in order to install the international rom on the chinese model
Sent from my Huawei Mate 8 NXT-AL10 using Tapatalk
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Great, will do that.
Thanks a lot.
jbmc83 said:
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
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Is the L09 interchangeable with L29 roms?
And what is UL00 version?
dredre2017 said:
Is the L09 interchangeable with L29 roms?
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i think so. at least ive seen L29 users successfully installing L09 roms and vice versa
NXT-DL00 - Locked?
Hello
I have Huawei Mate 8 NXT-DL00. What it means is locked for Chinese carriers. And if anyone tried to unlock it? I use this phone from 01.10.2016 in Poland. I think it works well but I can not change the language in the application Hiapp to any other without bushes nor register - server always busy, try later. I thought me change the software on the other, and everything will be fine.
Regards
MJ
jbmc83 said:
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
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are you able to get group text messaging functions like you would on a US based phone? for example a galaxy s7 that was bought in a Verizon store.
i bought the international redmi 3pro and i cannot get normal group messaging functions, i cannot see the group messaging all together in 1 single group text. it sends all responses to me as individual messages instead of a group. i dont want to buy the mate8 if it does that as well. i want my old group messaging functions back
depends on the app youre using i guess... also check and see if the app settings include anything about group messages.
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I got L29 andI have problem connecting to TMobile network. My have another L10 and has no problem connecting to tmobile.
Any idea ?
Can we use dual sim on AL10 ?
hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
grafik2 said:
hi i'm still running an M8 but the U11 looks like finally the phone that will trigger me to upgrade. I'm confused about how the US versions will be getting 4GB RAM 64GB storage, while the international versions will get 6GB RAM 128GB storage.
Anyone know if it's possible to get the international version to work on US Carrier? I'm on AT&T.
Thanks
excited to see how the edge sensitivity stuff works out
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Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
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Gotcha. Well thanks for the info. I won't need dual SIM and use an SD card so I was really just interested in getting 25% more RAM if it wasn't hard to get an international version.
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Not necessary to have those extra juice. Didn't make a lot in terms of performance on such a phone. Especially as long as it is driven by such an SoC and very well done software optimization.
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should be fine with sd835 and 4 gb
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
I was kinda bummed about this too, but at least we have an SD card slot and HTC doesn't bloat the hell out of their phones with crap like "Touchwiz" so I think it wouldn't make much difference.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Wrong information mate. All countries will get the same 4GB RAM/64GB internal configuration. Only difference are Taiwan and China were HTC will ship an 6GB RAM/128GB internal version as well. If your not running dual SIM the 64GB variant would suffice I think. But if you really want the larger storage you'd have to import it. Don't know if all US bands are present on this asian versions and if it'll run on AT&T though.
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Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
Kisakuku said:
Wait, but there's five MIDs, two of which are dual-SIM. So how can "all countries be getting the same 4/64 config"?
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Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Yeah I know bit MID isn't directly tied to storage options. And as far as I know EMEA and US and others are getting 4GB/64GB, while Aisa is the only region getting 6GB/128GB.
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Right, I just wanted to make sure that by "the same 4/64 config" you didn't mean all 4/64 devices have the same MID )
Also, @hamdir reported ME is getting 6/128.
fr0st420 said:
Watch out for the dual sim variants. They don't have all the US bands.
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Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
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Can you please elaborate, or tell me where I can find out more on this? I need a dual sim device and I'm AT&T. Thanks!
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You'd have to import one from China / Taiwan / Europe / Middle East or buy a gray market device on Ebay, etc.
Hello all,
I have the opportunity to import the 128 gb version of the HTC u12 plus cheaper than the 64gb European version.
Will I be able to use the kernels, ROMs and unlocking/rooting tools that are made for the 64gb version of the u12 plus?
EMJI79 said:
Hello all,
I have the opportunity to import the 128 gb version of the HTC u12 plus cheaper than the 64gb European version.
Will I be able to use the kernels, ROMs and unlocking/rooting tools that are made for the 64gb version of the u12 plus?
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Yes. There is no significant hardware difference besides the memory size. Other than that the two models are identical. Just watch out for the Dual and single SIM variants.
I am reading that people are really disappointed the Global version is Exynos based and not snapdragon but my requiremetns are these
I need it rooted, after I found out that S8 Snapdragon had no root for longest time - and even now the solution is not good, I was totally put off by Samsung
I understand Exonys versions have root come out fairly quick
I need to use Samsung Pay or Google pay( which If i am not mistaken can be done via Magisk? ) as its currency not possible in S8 or S9 Snapdragon due to its rooting method
Dual SIM - MAIN Reason - I beleive US version wont have Dual and Exonys wil?
Bring out the inner artist in doing some sketching
So considering he above, is the Exynos chip t hat and compared to my requirements above?
Any other recommendation? seek Note 10+?
Hello, on all that i still suggest you using Snapdragon version. As far as i can see you need root for custom rom. I have rooted Note 10+ (Exynos) and going for also Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon, since the Exynos is still prone to overheat and underperform. I dont know which is having dual sim and which not, but as far as updates go Samsung change their game... official updates are really fast they even announce 3 year support with updates. Rooted phone i think it means so much less now since google is closing everything good about it. Thats my opinion. And from my Exynos 9825 there is 33% performance increase on Snapdragon where Exynos is only about 15%. And i am from Europe and i feel offended by Exynos...
It is my understanding that the South American and Hong Kong varians twill be Snapdragons with an unlocked bootloader. Although they can be rooted, traditionally development might be slow on these variants.
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Eudeferrer said:
It is my understanding that the South American and Hong Kong varians twill be Snapdragons with an unlocked bootloader. Although they can be rooted, traditionally development might be slow on these variants.
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the Korean versions are snapdragon this year also which is new since they have always been exynos.
i may go this route since the idiots at samsung only have the 512gb version in black in Canada and the US.
they are so stupid...did the sme thing last year with the 10 plus..only 512gb in black.
Here is a question, is the model/variant: SM-N9860, will it come in 512GB / 12GB RAM / Dual Sim (is it dual physical sim or hydrid dual sim - 1 slot for SD/Nano SIM & and 2nd slot for Nano SIM), and it will be the snap dragon variant with unlocked bootloader.
Also, will these models support Canadian Telcom's 5G network?