I am debating if I should sell my Huawai Mate 8 NXT-L10. It is Mocha and full spec. I installed the International ROM, but considering getting the NXT-29 so I don't have to worry about OTA and such.
I don't speak/read Chinese and notice that the Chinese ROM still has messages that show up in Chinese despite English language setting. On the international ROM, I don't come across Chinese at all.
Trying to decide if I should sell my chinese one and just get the international one. I am in San Francisco, and bought directly in China with receipt, so don't think hard to sell. But getting international version seems difficult.
Thoughts? Are there any other differences between AL10 and L29?
nope, just software and 1 different supported LTE band, thats about it: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
if its too much hassle to manually install the software and if u absolutely HAVE to have the latest OTA at the time point of release then yeah, go for the L29
Keep Chinese ROM
I'd personally keep the Chinese firmware for a while. The only thing I'm waiting for is rooting my beast to be able to remove some of the built in Chinese crapware I don't understand.
If I'm to wish for something, I'd want a Mate 8 with Nexus Android with nothing at all but the OS and Google apps. Unfortunately, all the Nexus phones I am aware of have no SD card support which for me is fundamental even with my Mate 8 (128 GB internal memory)
HuaweiMate8 said:
I'd personally keep the Chinese firmware for a while. The only thing I'm waiting for is rooting my beast to be able to remove some of the built in Chinese crapware I don't understand.
If I'm to wish for something, I'd want a Mate 8 with Nexus Android with nothing at all but the OS and Google apps. Unfortunately, all the Nexus phones I am aware of have no SD card support which for me is fundamental even with my Mate 8 (128 GB internal memory)
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I want too. I wonder if that ROM will ever make it.
I think there is no 64/128 gb version of the L29.
64/4gb versions have popped up already, havent seen any 128 models though
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That is the strange thing. I have been reading an excellent post here h_ttp://anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review under Introduction and Design, and it seems there is no 128 GB overseas version!
That's because 128gb model is China exclusive
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sirpaul82 said:
That's because 128gb model is China exclusive
Wysłane z mojego SM-G928F przy użyciu Tapatalka
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Ok, that is what I thought, but a question comes to my mind which is: Even if we could flash the overseas ROM on the Chinese device, will this work fine or would there be some features that won't work or HW failures or malfunctions? Personally, I'm OK with the Chinese version and happy to receive OTA updates, all I want is a root access to remove the unwanted applications.
By the way, I updated my NXT-AL10C00B137 to NXT-AL10C00B156 and I haven't noticed any bug or issues. I am not rooted and have the stock firmware. I live in Italy and I updated over WiFi.
once u root u lose capability of receiving OTA updates.
ive been on an international rom B133 from day one without any issues and im on the chinese model AL10 theyre so similar, almost identical in their hardware, that crossflashing roms doesnt seem to be a problem.
chrisabruce said:
I am debating if I should sell my Huawai Mate 8 NXT-L10. It is Mocha and full spec. I installed the International ROM, but considering getting the NXT-29 so I don't have to worry about OTA and such.
I don't speak/read Chinese and notice that the Chinese ROM still has messages that show up in Chinese despite English language setting. On the international ROM, I don't come across Chinese at all.
Trying to decide if I should sell my chinese one and just get the international one. I am in San Francisco, and bought directly in China with receipt, so don't think hard to sell. But getting international version seems difficult.
Thoughts? Are there any other differences between AL10 and L29?
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The differences between AL10 and L29 could be that AL10 has Dual SIM active and L29 has dual SIM standby.
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The differences between AL10 and L29 could be that AL10 has Dual SIM active and L29 has dual SIM standby.
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What is the difference between active sim and standby sim? Also, is there a difference for certain versions keeping some Chinese?
That's not true. L29 is also Dual SIM active. There is no difference in Dual Sim function between AL10 and L29.
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What is the difference between active sim and standby sim? Also, is there a difference for certain versions keeping some Chinese?
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Dual SIM standby: you can have 2 SIM cards but only use one at a time.
Dual SIM active: you can have 2 SIM cards and use them simultaneous f.ex. make a call on one card and surfe the net on the other or surfe the net on one card and receive a call on the other card.
There are 3 versions of Mate 8.
2 universel : one with dual SIM standby and one with single SIM: m.huawei com
1 chinese with dual SIM full active: etotalk com
I would say that NXT-AL10 is the best one - also most expencive.
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That's not true. L29 is also Dual SIM active. There is no difference in Dual Sim function between AL10 and L29.
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Take a look at GSMARENA, they can tell you otherwise.
knudknud3
I don't have to check it on GSMARENA because i have got this phone and I know, how it works. Do you have this phone or just distribute false information? I have got L29 C432 and everyday I use Dual Sim active functionality.
You'd better go to shop and check it personally.
On internet portals like gsmarena there is lots of errors in specs. Those webs are not reliable sources of any specs informations.
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look at this thread and read it from beginning to the end, if you don't believe me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/dual-sim-dual-active-t3381640
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knudknud3
I don't have to check it on GSMARENA because i have got this phone and I know, how it works. Do you have this phone or just distribute false information? I have got L29 C432 and everyday I use Dual Sim active functionality.
You'd better go to shop and check it personally.
On internet portals like gsmarena there is lots of errors in specs. Those webs are not reliable sources of any specs informations.
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look at this thread and read it from beginning to the end, if you don't believe me:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-8/help/dual-sim-dual-active-t3381640
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Of course I believe you. But that thread is saying nothing. Copycat is only confirming. Grofock is talking about AL10 (to me the real DSA/DSDA phone). Tsiglas is not explaining understandable (to me).
I hope you can explain to me in simple words, how you can do two different things AT THE SAME TIME on your phone. Please.
I've asked you to read this thread till the end... copysat AND tsiglas confirm, that L29 is Dual Sim Full Active. I confirm it too AS L29 OWNER. We know what we say, because we have got this phone.
It seems, that you have never had this phone, but you insist that L29 is not Dual Sim Active, because you have read about it on the website.
3 persons having this phone confirm, it is DS active, but you still says it means nothing....So i'm sorry, but I think there is no method to explain you anything, because it is impossible, that you can understand something more.
To the author of topic: don't listen to knudknud3. L29 and AL 10 have the same Dual Sim Active functionality. I confirm that as an European L29 owner.
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I've asked you to read this thread till the end... copysat AND tsiglas confirm, that L29 is Dual Sim Full Active. I confirm it too AS L29 OWNER. We know what we say, because we have got this phone.
It seems, that you have never had this phone, but you insist that L29 is not Dual Sim Active, because you have read about it on the website.
3 persons having this phone confirm, it is DS active, but you still says it means nothing....So i'm sorry, but I think there is no method to explain you anything, because it is impossible, that you can understand something more.
To the author of topic: don't listen to knudknud3. L29 and AL 10 have the same Dual Sim Active functionality. I confirm that as an European L29 owner.
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I am sorry, but can you at least tell me, where I can buy a phone like yours.
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Does anyone know, really, what are the differences between the versions NXT-AL10 and NXT-AL29?
It has to do with the regions where they are sold?
The software is different from one version to another?
I ask this questions is because I've read almost all of the post on this forum, and frankly, I could not understand what the differences are...
IMHO I think the answer to this question is the key in order to install the different versions that are not yet available, but certainly in the near future will be.
By the way, my Mate 8 has the NXT-AL10C00B156 version. It is the Chinese or international version?
As others have said, I am also impressed with the overall performance of this machine, and my only disappointment results from the pre-installed software that has huge Chinese junk (of course, no offense to the Chinese people I greatly respect).
Thanks a lot
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
Do you guys think we'll be able to flash the Chinese models into fully thinking they're L29?
good question, no idea. in principle, wed only need to manipulate the device name in about phone, so as to fool future OTA´s
I had the 10, returned for the 29 with preloaded Google Apps. I was having an issue on the Chinese version with Google Apps and my Google account. The Chinese language on some apps was annoying as well. Now with the International version all is good. Plus it was cheaper.
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AL10.... you can get 128gb version, l29 you cant.
ALL THAT SPACE.
DaffyOnLSD said:
AL10.... you can get 128gb version, l29 you cant.
ALL THAT SPACE.
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Some of you guys have any idea if briefly there will be a European version of the L29 ,as to L10 this will never happen ...
That would be ideal as we would be with 64 (which is my case ) or 128GB and the fully functional mobile phone !
Hi All,
I bought TL00 (China Mobile). Can I root it? And flash international rom?
hm, where are u located? have u made sure that it works with sim cards from carriers other than china mobile? just wondering
aside from that, some others have already flashed the international rom on their carrier locked china devices. although it didnt seem to help in terms of sim card functionality, the firmwares did seem to work. no promises though!
Huawei mate 8 NXT-AL10C00B156
Hi all,
Got my phone with all kind of chinese apps which ofcourse where of no use for me, as i do not speak Chinese. It came with google play store though so i was able to not only get rid of the apps they allowed me to delete and inhabilitated others. Installed all I wanted and more or less I am happy. The phone is absolutely great with 128GB and do not feel any yearning to the many samsungs I had in the past and got fed up about, and which I always bought in Asia with Dual sim i need for my double geaographical life. Would only wish to get the European version if their is guarantee that it works. I am far from an expert but have installed several times in the past different IOS via ODIN with good result. If anybody has tried this change with succes from the chinese IOS to the European variant, kindly indicate.
Thanks in advance,
Br
Tonardus
just read through the mate 8 subforums here, there is all the info u need in order to install the international rom on the chinese model
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jbmc83 said:
just read through the mate 8 subforums here, there is all the info u need in order to install the international rom on the chinese model
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Great, will do that.
Thanks a lot.
jbmc83 said:
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
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Is the L09 interchangeable with L29 roms?
And what is UL00 version?
dredre2017 said:
Is the L09 interchangeable with L29 roms?
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i think so. at least ive seen L29 users successfully installing L09 roms and vice versa
NXT-DL00 - Locked?
Hello
I have Huawei Mate 8 NXT-DL00. What it means is locked for Chinese carriers. And if anyone tried to unlock it? I use this phone from 01.10.2016 in Poland. I think it works well but I can not change the language in the application Hiapp to any other without bushes nor register - server always busy, try later. I thought me change the software on the other, and everything will be fine.
Regards
MJ
jbmc83 said:
AL10 = chinese version, unlocked
TL00, DL00, CL00 = chinese versions, locked to chinese carriers
L29 = international version, unlocked, dual sim
L09 = international version, unlocked, single sim, only available in 3/32 GB
only differences between AL10 and L29 are in the preinstalled software (AL10 has "chinese junk" on it and no preinstalled google apps & services, opposite is the case with L29 & L09 models)
also, they differ in one single supported LTE band: http://www.anandtech.com/show/9878/the-huawei-mate-8-review
scroll down for the specs table, differences are listed there
thats it! and exactly because theyre so similar we can crossflash roms between the two models
cheers
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are you able to get group text messaging functions like you would on a US based phone? for example a galaxy s7 that was bought in a Verizon store.
i bought the international redmi 3pro and i cannot get normal group messaging functions, i cannot see the group messaging all together in 1 single group text. it sends all responses to me as individual messages instead of a group. i dont want to buy the mate8 if it does that as well. i want my old group messaging functions back
depends on the app youre using i guess... also check and see if the app settings include anything about group messages.
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I got L29 andI have problem connecting to TMobile network. My have another L10 and has no problem connecting to tmobile.
Any idea ?
Can we use dual sim on AL10 ?
So reading around here about the issues with Chinese versions of Mate 9's and Google Play. I am confused on a few points and thought maybe it would help others, and myself, to have a thread just for the purpose of version clarity. Can someone chime in with a yay or nay to the following:
- My understanding is there are 3 versions; Euro version, International version, and Chinese version.
- Read somewhere around here that the single sim version is Euro.
- Read around here that dual SIM version is International.
- Read around here that 128/6 GB is Chinese.
- With regard to all of the above are they mutually exclusive meaning that, for instance, any 128/6 GB Mate 9 would necessarily be a Chinese version? However, getting a 64/4 GB model might not mean you are avoiding a Chinese variant? If you get dual SIM you are avoiding Chines variant?
- Deducing from what I have read here it seems that any version other than the Chinese version is fine out of the box to work with Google Play.
- Is color in play for versions, all this color a that version or something like that.
I ordered a 128/6 GB White Mate 9 from Oppomart and just trying to see if I need to change to a 64/4 GB or what. Also read around here someone quoted Oppomart as saying they are selling International versions but figured that could change over time (also emailed Oppomart and will share their response when I get it).
*edit*. Adding info that answers my questions so, hopefully, others questions as well. Thanks to all here and elsewhere for the clarity:
The Chinese model is MHA-AL00, and two international models are MHA-L29 and MHA-L09. The MHA-AL00 and the MHA-L29 both support the same bands, basically almost all bands. The MHA-L09 supports all of the bands of the other two models except Band 41 (so bad news for Sprint and China/India if my research is correct). The MHA-L09 is single sim while the MLA-AL00 and MHA-L29 are dual-sim (the hybrid kind so second SIM slot is SD slot). Only the MHA-AL00 now comes in the 128 or 256 and 6 GB variant. Some, not many, MHA-AL00 phones will have the B109SP01 firmware but maybe not many - if it does then you basically got the same thing as an International version in terms of Google Play working (just don't do system update until word here is the Play issue is fixed in the ROM they are pushing out), SIM slots, etc and in future it is likely with unlocked bootloader it could be flashed to become an International version. In short, it seems MHA-AL00 (Chinese) and MHA-L29 (International) are the same hardware phone with the former have the 128/256 and 6 GB option out there and the MLA-L09 is the same but missing the aforementioned band and second SIM slot.
100% you have the Chinese version. There is no MHA-L29 (international) or MHA-L09 in that format...yet...sorry . A lot of these Chinese retailers will lie to fool you into a sale. Only some of them really know their stuff and list it all correctly with the right information/product.
MHA-AL00:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device..._9_dual_sim_td-lte_mha-al00__huawei_manhattan
MHA-L09:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device&id=10917&c=huawei_mate_9_td-lte_mha-l09__huawei_manhattan
MHA-L29:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=device...e_9_dual_sim_td-lte_mha-l29__huawei_manhattan
I can't comment on software capabilities of each version in terms of LTE etc (I was pretty damn sure that was always limited to hardware). I've coded BMWs so I know hardware limitations for Europe vs USA, and they are there (most notably in tail lights and headlights - orange vs red, glare free LEDs vs regular LEDs due to DOT regulations).
@duraaraa knows more on development on our Mate 9s though since he has tinkered a bit and helped Chinese Mate 9 owners already in the google play/version thread. The phone is still brand new, so hard to say what's true without real world users actually doing tests in each region on select carriers, etc.
So 128/6 GB is going to be useless Chinese brick without Google Play. Why even ship such a pointless device? Not sure it is worth even trying to find right one somewhere.
Starting to see why not bothering with these Chinese phones is probably smart. Thanks for the info. Just so sick of Samsung and that new Pixel iPhone with bigger bezels are no real choices. Ugh.
Back to looking.
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SWBgHz said:
So 128/6 GB is going to be useless Chinese brick without Google Play. Why even ship such a pointless device? Not sure it is worth even trying to find right one somewhere.
Starting to see why not bothering with these Chinese phones is probably smart. Thanks for the info. Just so sick of Samsung and that new Pixel iPhone with bigger bezels are no real choices. Ugh.
Back to looking.
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Your not alone, Hang in there till there's some better information & legitimate details...
Saw the guy who figured out how to work around and downgrade them, but can't spend that kind of money for a device from a company that would ship a useless brick like that. Really sad to me the so called tech press doesn't lambast a company for doing this kind of stuff. Lapdogs, sadly.
So here is the gist of it:
MHA-AL00:
Useless crap
MHA-L09 & MHA-L29
Usable smartphones
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SWBgHz said:
Saw the guy who figured out how to work around and downgrade them, but can't spend that kind of money for a device from a company that would ship a useless brick like that. Really sad to me the so called tech press doesn't lambast a company for doing this kind of stuff. Lapdogs, sadly.
So here is the gist of it:
MHA-AL00:
Useless crap
MHA-L09 & MHA-L29
Usable smartphones
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Well, they can't really slam them for adhering to the Chinese market. You're buying a Chinese variant with all that entails. That's just how these things work. Huawei can't ship a device with play services in China.
Why don't you buy from a more local shop with better credibility? I assume it's because you are in a location where it hasn't launched (yet).
So, why bringing out a MHA-L09 and a MHA-L29?
I checked the database (thanks opasha) and the difference seems to be the number of bands they support. L09 seems to be a subset off L29.
Any ideas? I'm in the Netherlands and I would have expected the 09 but I received the 029.
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Well, they can't really slam them for adhering to the Chinese market. You're buying a Chinese variant with all that entails. That's just how these things work. Huawei can't ship a device with play services in China.
Why don't you buy from a more local shop with better credibility? I assume it's because you are in a location where it hasn't launched (yet).
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Yes, in US. As for slamming them ... not installing Google Play in understand but no capability for it to run? That is pretty messed up. Got a mi mix and easy to install and use Play store and Google services.
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SWBgHz said:
Yes, in US. As for slamming them ... not installing Google Play in understand but no capability for it to run? That is pretty messed up. Got a mi mix and easy to install and use Play store and Google services.
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Two reasons for not being able to do it: Chinese market banning Google products and to avoid people buying devices cheaper from China - instead buying them locally.
If you have a Mi Mix, why would buy another phone?
The US is very restrictive towards Huawei and particularly the Kirin SoCs and the brand isn't particularly strong in the US, so that's why they're hesitant to launch the Mate 9 or Mate 9 Pro in the US.
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If you have a Mi Mix, why would buy another phone?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-mix/help/mi-mix-google-voice-issue-t3506686/page1
That is why I got rid of the Mi Mix, everything worked great but Google Voice could not make calls and my home area was problematic with the limited bands.
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So I found a guy on eBay (yes, I know - but I do fine in eBay and know how to use the protections it affords) that has Chinese version with the B109SP01 firmware that will run Google Play services. This solves the issues, right? It is dual SIM and 128/6 GB (has other sizes too) so question is will this work or just not worth bothering with it?
Oops, yes I know - should have edited previous post instead of adding another.
Adding info that answers my questions so, hopefully, others questions as well. Thanks to all here and elsewhere for the clarity:
The Chinese model is MHA-AL00, and two international models are MHA-L29 and MHA-L09. The MHA-AL00 and the MHA-L29 both support the same bands, basically almost all bands. The MHA-L09 supports all of the bands of the other two models except Band 41 (so bad news for Sprint and China/India if my research is correct). The MHA-L09 is single sim while the MLA-AL00 and MHA-L29 are dual-sim (the hybrid kind so second SIM slot is SD slot). Only the MHA-AL00 now comes in the 128 or 256 and 6 GB variant. Some, not many, MHA-AL00 phones will have the B109SP01 firmware but maybe not many - if it does then you basically got the same thing as an International version in terms of Google Play working (just don't do system update until word here is the Play issue is fixed in the ROM they are pushing out), SIM slots, etc and in future it is likely with unlocked bootloader it could be flashed to become an International version. In short, it seems MHA-AL00 (Chinese) and MHA-L29 (International) are the same hardware phone with the former have the 128/256 and 6 GB option out there and the MLA-L09 is the same but missing the aforementioned band and second SIM slot.
Will edit original post with this info too so easy for anyone to see. Thanks all.
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I just received the MHA-L00 Mate 9 couple of days ago and I was able to install google play without any issues after installing GMSinstaller from Huawei app, I received a firmware OTA as soon as I connected to my wifi B165SP01 which has been working fine. I will keep you posted once I do more tests on it and using it on a daily basis.
I have the international L29 with B158 and 64gb. Dual.
Runs exactely like any other phone vis-a-vis Google / Facebook / Whatsapp
kolembo said:
I have the international L29 with B158 and 64gb. Dual.
Runs exactely like any other phone vis-a-vis Google / Facebook / Whatsapp
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How did you get B158? Regular OTA or some kind of black magic? Mine is still on B126 with nothing to update...
Is that really B158, or B138?
received OTA B167 update on my MHA-AL00 working fine using T-mobile, google apps installed using GSM from HiApp. Only annoying thing is not able to use stock audio controls (Everything is in chinese) and notification bugs considering to rebrand to international verison whenever I have time
I ordered the Mate 9 from a local supplier (Switzerland) 6 months ago. They sent me the MHA-AL00 which - intriguingly - already had Google Play installed. There was no sign of the phone having been set up before to allow the supplier to install Google Play.... Anyway, everything worked as expected and they only thing I noticed that a few obscure menus were in Chinese as well as some text on the lock screen. Last month I broke the screen and since I liked the phone so much (the battery life is a-ma-zing!) I ordered a new one. This time they sent me the MHA-L29 and the only difference I noted is that all the traces to Chinese were gone. Other than that the phones look, feel and act exactly the same. If you figure out how to tweek the very aggressive power management features, this phone is easy to love.
Alright guys I know I am late to the party but I am considering buying a chinese version with 128GB and 6GBRAM from Ebay. My only question is, now that the phone has been out for a while, is it possible to unlock the bootloader and install the international ROM on the chinese 128/6 mate 9?
Or is it safer to stick with the 64GB/4GB RAM MHA-L29?
Btw I am from Australia
i have the international version, mha-l29c185...works great with google installed...also they do have google play store and all the apps on huawei app market...i seen the 128gb mate 9 6gb ram runing play store in videos....not sure whats all the if are about...can easily install a rom with google in it...
s8plususer said:
Alright guys I know I am late to the party but I am considering buying a chinese version with 128GB and 6GBRAM from Ebay. My only question is, now that the phone has been out for a while, is it possible to unlock the bootloader and install the international ROM on the chinese 128/6 mate 9?
Or is it safer to stick with the 64GB/4GB RAM MHA-L29?
Btw I am from Australia
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Yeah. It is possible. Even it will detect that you have 6 / 128 specs on world ROM.
Maximum you will have some troubles with unlock bootloader. In strange cases Chinese models get wrong unlock code via official way. Also, you have to register Huawei account and use phone with it in 14 days to approve your legitimate reason to unlock.
After reading the below report from Gsmarena, I did a quick search on the internet and found an online store (to2c) in China selling international version with 6/128 with all four colors. It's been available for a few days now. I ordered the black version and it should arrive by the end of this week. Apparently, since it's not Chinese and the model is MHA-L29, it should have the original international ROM. I will update you when I receive it.
http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_mate...am_and_128_gb_internal_storage-news-22773.php
How much?
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How much?
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$812.99
http://www.to2c.com/original-huawei...hd-android-7-0-fingerprint-id-smartphone.html
That's what I figured. I know it has 128GB but... Wish it was only $50 or max $100 more
Is it really?
At my info, it is possible to install mha-l29 rom onto Chinese models AL00, which are different colors and with extended combinations ram/rom.
Probably, this Chinese shop to2c do this trick. But it does not have model L29 with 6gb ram and 128gb rom. Need information from box.
Amazon GSM 6/128
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product...act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A35WDPB4Y8D904
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Amazon GSM 6/128
https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product...act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A35WDPB4Y8D904
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At this link in 'Product Information' in 'Item Model Number' is MHA-AL00
So it can not be international model.
Additionally, sales are not in official Amazon-shop.
5[Strogino] said:
At this link in 'Product Information' in 'Item Model Number' is MHA-AL00
So it can not be international model.
Additionally, sales are not in official Amazon-shop.
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Good catch, my bad.
The International Version (LON-L29) is available:
https://www.wondamobile.com/best-se...sim-free-with-google-play-installed-2627.html
I know people who have bought Mate 8s & Honor Note 8s from this reseller. He is very professional. Enjoy
Hi,
I just got my MHA L29, 4gb/64gb version. This phone is not recognizing micro sd card. Due to various versions of the phone, I am not sure this model supports sd card or just second sim. Anyone have any idea?
Trijunction said:
Hi,
I just got my MHA L29, 4gb/64gb version. This phone is not recognizing micro sd card. Due to various versions of the phone, I am not sure this model supports sd card or just second sim. Anyone have any idea?
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It must support microsd. I have MHA-L29 and microSD Transcend Premium 300x. Works great.
Can you try another microsd?
worldsoutro said:
$812.99
http://www.to2c.com/original-huawei...hd-android-7-0-fingerprint-id-smartphone.html
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I just placed an order for the Mate 9 L29 6/128 in white, will report back once I get it and I plan to return my Mate 9 US model once I get the INT one.
RMXO said:
I just placed an order for the Mate 9 L29 6/128 in white, will report back once I get it and I plan to return my Mate 9 US model once I get the INT one.
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Afaik, US model is international model. Isn't it ?
AL00 is chinese model and L29 is international model that is being sold in US.
L0N-L29:
That is the Mate 9 pro. 5.5" curved AMOLED, Daydream approved
5[Strogino] said:
Is it really?
At my info, it is possible to install mha-l29 rom onto Chinese models AL00, which are different colors and with extended combinations ram/rom.
Probably, this Chinese shop to2c do this trick. But it does not have model L29 with 6gb ram and 128gb rom. Need information from box.
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You are right. I just cancelled my order. They confirmed that the model number on the box is not MHA-L29, it is MHA-AL00 which is the Chinese version. They are installing the international ROMs on the Chinese versions and selling them as international variants.
That sucks. I will wait couple of more months and hopefully Huawei will decide to provide the International 6/128 variant.
Moe100021 said:
You are right. I just cancelled my order. They confirmed that the model number on the box is not MHA-L29, it is MHA-AL00 which is the Chinese version. They are installing the international ROMs on the Chinese versions and selling them as international variants.
That sucks. I will wait couple of more months and hopefully Huawei will decide to provide the International 6/128 variant.
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I'm glad to help you. It is very strange decision from Huawei release 6/128 Mate9 only for China.
If you want International variant contact WonderMobile:
https://www.wondamobile.com/contacts
To clarify that he sells the international variant:
https://www.wondamobile.com/best-se...sim-free-with-google-play-installed-2627.html
That many people do not sell.
5[Strogino] said:
Is it really?
At my info, it is possible to install mha-l29 rom onto Chinese models AL00, which are different colors and with extended combinations ram/rom.
Probably, this Chinese shop to2c do this trick. But it does not have model L29 with 6gb ram and 128gb rom. Need information from box.
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SlyUK said:
If you want International variant contact WonderMobile:
https://www.wondamobile.com/contacts
To clarify that he sells the international variant:
https://www.wondamobile.com/best-se...sim-free-with-google-play-installed-2627.html
That many people do not sell.
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Thanks, but I am looking for the regular Mate 9 international variant 6/128 and not the pro version.
I got my L29 from Wonda too (Excellent service from them )
It definately won't take an Ext SD card (I was mislead by the internet on this!), it just has 2 nano sim slots.
This phone however is fantastic - working on EE here in London.
Only problem I am having is some calls go straight to voicemail and don't ring the phone - it seems it might be numbers that are not in my contact list that are affected.
If anybody has this problem I would love to find the solution
I thought all the dual-sim models could take a microSD card. Is your sim tray different than the ones that can accept a microSD?
Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.
koloure2211 said:
Hello I need to know if the uk version of x2 pro is dual, or single sim?
Thank you.
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Hello, it's pretty simple in this case.
512 GB version is available internationally, is single-SIM, has fully working VoLTE and VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PCH and its global ROM is vastly superior to the Chinese one (less bloatware, very little restrictions about customization).
256 GB version is available only in China, is dual-SIM, has neither VoLTE nor VoWi-Fi, has firmware named PDEM and its Chinese ROM has some bloatware and more importantly unpleasant and incovenient restrictions for the user.
Hope that helps
More advanced answer:
Currently there's a battle on two fronts:
users try to flash the much more user-friendly Global ROM on the Chinese device but without success so far; it seems that an unlocked booloader might be required which is still a long way to go
users try to make the Global model work as dual-SIM as it actually physically has a double SIM-card tray so there is a tiny possibility that it's a very weird software limitation (breakable in the future) but I would't have high hopes
Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......
koloure2211 said:
Thank you, I want / need dual sim, (work etc) so will probably have to give this a "miss" unless.......
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No problem, glad I could.. "help".
No one has a clue why Oppo made this limitation, both phones (CPH and PDEM) are identical (hardware-wise), both have dual SIM-card tray but only the Chinese software is capable with working with two SIMs.
The phone is so great I might let go of dual-SIM requirement but I understand it's the decisive factor for many. Oppo has surely cut their profits by doing this and I've never seen anything like this before (phone hardware supporting it but an artificial software change blocking it).
I agree totally, it's ludicrous that this should be the case?
If only they gave users the choice? After all it's £1099 phone, it should be!?
Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.
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Apparently Clove, (UK) has the dual sim version. Ceramic black only though, at the moment.
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It's either a typo (misleading information), or they're offering the Chinese model with Chinese software and 256 GB storage (the latter option is very unlikely).
Remember, technically the phone is always dual-SIM. That might be the source of their information.
I have emailed them for clarification, awaiting reply!
Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
Just for clarity...
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Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Got the reply!
Hope this helps ?
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they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones
daindian said:
they are wrong. the orange model is a carphone warehouse exclusive. carphone warehouse don't sell locked phones
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Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.
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Actually Amazon, (UK) are selling the orange one also.
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yeh again unlocked. carphone warehouse is the exclusive seller on contract I should of clarified
Yes this is very odd...not sure what game they are playing. Why would the UK get dual SIM, or some specific market. This is driving me nuts.
Maybe I'll contact oppo directly.
Killer007TV said:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Killer007TV said:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??
I thought i posted this here also :
Ok after some research, and reading another post in the forum, i can mostly confirm that there ARE 2025 GLOBAL models with dual sim around. Apparently the Clove is getting the dual sim.
Clove find x2 pro
and i confirm this is correct by going to the UK site of oppo...
Oppo official site
This means that's even crazier than i thought... some markets, even in the EU get the dual sim and others dont....
but just to make you laugh check this out :
Oppo says ALL their phone are dual SIM
koloure2211 said:
I might add, that until this question is clarified? I will not be ordering,
Single SIM?
Dual SIM??
it's just all over the place at the moment??
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Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?
koloure2211 said:
Is it a physical dual SIM or SIM and...
e-sim?
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I stand corrected!!! Oppo is really not clear on this.
As this is very WRONG
on the top of their site : it says "dual 5G" which can make one believe that it's dual SIM. But when you scroll down to "network" it clearly says "Single sim".
Uk Oppo site
So why do they mention dual 5G ?(maybe the two 5G (mmWave and the other one).
I sent an email to Oppo asking for some clarfication.
I checked all around the world which markets have dual sim (outside of China) and apparently none have it.
So i'm waiting on feedback from another member who has a 2025 but dual SIM... this is all very confusing.
just to add some more confusion (salt into wounds, so to speak) into this... Amazon UK also claims "dual-sim" in their pre-order for June 10th release. Also Orange version, 12GB 512GB.... sold and dispatched by Amazon... :crying: :fingers-crossed:
I loved this phone in PDEM version but the lockdown of the software made me switch to Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro (plus I can use custom roms). Dual SIM especially since this is band capable for TMobile and Verizon in the states. I love dual sim... if dual sim is confirmed, i'm switching back in a heartbeat... just given the facts though, I think it is sellers typo in their information. Oppo clear states on UK site, CPH2025 model, Single SIM.
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I sent an email to Clove UK and Amazon to clarify their listings for these phones... I'll wait to see reply..
PDEM30 is China version(dual sims) and CPH2025 is global version(single sim)
correct?
how can i change from PDEM30 to CPH2025 to support local using in my country?
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
vosszaa said:
PDEM30 is China version(dual sims) and CPH2025 is global version(single sim)
correct?
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Stunna903 said:
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
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For the life of me I cannot find any sites that have dual sim as CPH2025. They are all PDEM30
Would you mind telling me where did you get it from please?
I ordered my from the Official Oppo store on JD.com. But they only ship to Thailand, had a friend there and they shipped it to me.
Stunna903 said:
PDEM is China yes and CPH2025 is international version, but they do come with dual sims as well. I ordered mine from Thailand and I have dual sim with CPH2025 model number.
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No, you don't. The international version of the phone physically has a dual SIM-card tray (same as the Chinese one) but only supports single SIM. ¨
That applies for every phone with Snapdragon 865 - either 5G functionality or dual-SIM.
You can't enable dual-SIM functionality on the international model.
No I don't what? I have dual sim so I don't understand what you're saying?
Killer007TV said:
No, you don't. The international version of the phone physically has a dual SIM-card tray (same as the Chinese one) but only supports single SIM. ¨
That applies for every phone with Snapdragon 865 - either 5G functionality or dual-SIM.
You can't enable dual-SIM functionality on the international model.
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No I don't what? I have dual sim so I don't understand what you're saying?
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You might just be new to this Find X2 Pro forum, so let me know you about the situation:
It's established here that the Chinese (PDEM) version supports dual-SIM while the Global one (CPH) only supports single-SIM.
People tried so hard to modify the Global ROM so it would support dual-SIM (as it has the very same hardware as the Chinese one, even the same dual SIM card tray) but without success at all.
So the bottom line is (so far has been) that there is no way to make dual-SIM work on the Global (CPH) version of the phone.
So now if you're saying that you own a CPH version of the phone and dual-SIM works for you, it's revolutionary and we would really like to see the proof.
I'll copy here what I wrote in another thread to a user who reportedly found a Global dual-SIM version of the phone:
Ok, that sounds strange (or interesting, depending on the point of view). Currently, as the international CPH version of Find X2 Pro doesn't support dual-SIM, there are two possibilities:
- they're still sharing misleading information (deliberately or not) and the phone will be single-SIM
- the phone will come with a brand new version of Global ROM firmware which somehow enables dual-SIM (and which hasn't been released yet), which would give hope to other users of international CPH version.
Hardware-wise the version you're ordering is 99% the same as the ones already released in countries like Netherlands, Germany.
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Well apparently you know everything there is to know about this phone, but here's a screenshot for you. Please explain.....
Killer007TV said:
You might just be new to this Find X2 Pro forum, so let me know you about the situation:
It's established here that the Chinese (PDEM) version supports dual-SIM while the Global one (CPH) only supports single-SIM.
People tried so hard to modify the Global ROM so it would support dual-SIM (as it has the very same hardware as the Chinese one, even the same dual SIM card tray) but without success at all.
So the bottom line is (so far has been) that there is no way to make dual-SIM work on the Global (CPH) version of the phone.
So now if you're saying that you own a CPH version of the phone and dual-SIM works for you, it's revolutionary and we would really like to see the proof.
I'll copy here what I wrote in another thread to a user who reportedly found a Global dual-SIM version of the phone:
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Ok,
but how?
Stunna903 said:
Well apparently you know everything there is to know about this phone, but here's a screenshot for you. Please explain.....
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How can you be so sensitive? Why do you think I attacked you in any way? Seriously lol.
It's internet, words can have various tones and I was as polite as in every single other thread.
I'm a part of this Oppo forum since early March and I wanted to show you what multiple (rather dozens) users concluded here with their efforts.
If you fail to understand that, I apologize, I can't be any more gentle.
So now who's being sensitive. All I said was you know a lot about the phone, which you do and I wanted you see that my phone has dual sims, that's all. We are a family here, no need for the bickering. We are all here to try to help each other right.
Killer007TV said:
How can you be so sensitive? Why do you think I attacked you in any way? Seriously lol.
It's internet, words can have various tones and I was as polite as in every single other thread.
I'm a part of this Oppo forum since early March and I wanted to show you what multiple (rather dozens) users concluded here with their efforts.
If you fail to understand that, I apologize, I can't be any more gentle.
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My phone came like this. I thought all CHP2025 versions were the same.
dgardel said:
Ok,
but how?
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Stunna903 said:
So now who's being sensitive. All I said was you know a lot about the phone, which you do and I wanted you see that my phone has dual sims, that's all. We are a family here, no need for the bickering. We are all here to try to help each other right.
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Agreed. The sarcasm on your side wasn't really necessary but I'm sure we can leave it behind.
Would you mind sharing your OS version (exact build)? So we may have a chance to find out whether you have a newer firmware. You wouldn't believe how many users here (and for how long) are eager to hear about a dual-SIM global Find X2 Pro. You're actually the very first one.
Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
Killer007TV said:
Agreed. The sarcasm on your side wasn't really necessary but I'm sure we can leave it behind.
Would you mind sharing your OS version (exact build)? So we may have a chance to find out whether you have a newer firmware. You wouldn't believe how many users here (and for how long) are eager to hear about a dual-SIM global Find X2 Pro. You're actually the very first one.
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Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
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That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
Sent from my OPPO CPH2025 using XDA Labs
hunhool said:
That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
Sent from my OPPO CPH2025 using XDA Labs
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Maybe if you flash that it would enable the dual sims functionality? But without the physical dual sims tray, how would you use dual sims??
vosszaa said:
Maybe if you flash that it would enable the dual sims functionality? But without the physical dual sims tray, how would you use dual sims??
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There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray. That is the most incomprehensible thing - why did Oppo bother with blocking dual-SIM for the rest of world.
Maybe it's got something to do with 5G? In good sources I read that you can't use both 5G and dual-SIM at the same time (you have to "decrease" to connection to 4G on both SIMs) - limitation of X55 modem on the Snapdragon 865.
hunhool said:
That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
Sent from my OPPO CPH2025 using XDA Labs
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Killer007TV said:
There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray.
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That's the thing. If I buy the global version, the tray I get would be a single tray so I have to look for dual sims tray elsewhere which i dont even see it selling anywhere. More headache
There is no dual sim "tray" in the global version. There are the "connectors" in the phone for dual SIM
Killer007TV said:
There IS a physical dual-SIM card tray. That is the most incomprehensible thing - why did Oppo bother with blocking dual-SIM for the rest of world.
Maybe it's got something to do with 5G? In good sources I read that you can't use both 5G and dual-SIM at the same time (you have to "decrease" to connection to 4G on both SIMs) - limitation of X55 modem on the Snapdragon 865.
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You can "trim it" down with sand paper or a dremel, that's what i did. But even then with various codes like *#800#* etc... you can't enable the dual sim.
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That's the thing. If I buy the global version, the tray I get would be a single tray so I have to look for dual sims tray elsewhere which i dont even see it selling anywhere. More headache
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Now, you @Stunna903 i'm interested in your phone, but i have some questions for you :
1. Where did you buy your phone? (online, physical shop?) -> ok just saw you got it on jd.com
2. Have you tried to change the Launcher on your phone (like installing Nova, etc.) and does it work. If you ADB unistall the launcher on the chinese version you lose the gesture controls at the bottom of your screen.
3. what language choices do you have ?
you are running A.18 which is the UK ROM... so please, i'm very interested in your phone, where you bought it, if Volte and wificalling are working...
As this is amazing for me. We had both phones in our hands Chinese and Global version, we tried EVERYTHING to port the Global to the Chinese, enable dual sim on the Global.
This could mean, depending where you bought it, that there is a specific market where they sell the X2Pro with global dual SIM... and that, might interest me A LOT.
Stunna903 said:
Yes sir.... I'm running Android 10, ColorOS 7.1, CPH2025_11_A.18.
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Can you please provide the screenshots of the the "sim info and settings", "build number" (hide your IMEI). Because this is drving me nuts lol. thx @Stunna903
edit : I just checked on jd.com and they are selling the PDEM version... so i'm very curious to get more info on how Stunna did it...(see attached screenshot of JD.com)
hunhool said:
That 11.A.18 version available for download from oppo UK website. I already downloaded (somewhere) but didn't have time to try flashing
Sent from my OPPO CPH2025 using XDA Labs
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Just in case, this is what i had to do with my tray lol.
He already said he bought it from jd.com