Hey,
I noticed that when a light shining directly into the lens and the brightness is set to low in camera i got a weird glow, like if there was patches / scratches on the lens. But there isn't. Everything is fine on the surface.
now does anyone else face something like that? What could it be? Should I get a replacement?
Look at the examples below. I'd appreciate any suggestions, help or confirmation if someone is having the same issue.
I know it looks like lens flare. But 1cm to the right or left and its gone.
Heres the glowy pictures:
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And heres how it seems to be normal, with "normal" blur / flare
Please tell me what you think
This is not just a light. This is like laser light which every optical mouse equipped with and it has light reflector in there too so it is normal to have this effect in low light condition. Try to take pic of it in normal day light condition.
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This is not just a light. This is like laser light which every optical mouse equipped with and it has light reflector in there too so it is normal to have this effect in low light condition. Try to take pic of it in normal day light condition.
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Yes I know I just had nothing else to demonstrate.
And as you can see even with the laser the effect is only in the upper left corner of the picture. It's like a patch
When not forcing the artifact with putting the light 8ns the top left corner its barely visible in any situation. But I know it's there and it's bugging me a lot.
Here's an example with a light (led) in my room.
First is upper left second is upper middle
Nilleiz said:
Yes I know I just had nothing else to demonstrate.
And as you can see even with the laser the effect is only in the upper left corner of the picture. It's like a patch
Here's an example with a light (led) in my room.
First is upper left second is upper middle
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Weird. Did you zoom in? what are your camera settings? is it auto mode or manual mode? Any adjustments? is it 8mpx pic (stock settings) or 23 or?
Here are my examples. Photo taken with 23pmx resolution at different angels. As you can see one photo is fine and second one has similar to what you are having. If you are taking photo of the light bulb that close you still get the effect of super nova lightning lol Also make sure your camera glass isn't full of your finger prints or dirty. Because if your camera lens receiving dirty lightning it might reflect that too
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Weird. Did you zoom in? what are your camera settings? is it auto mode or manual mode? Any adjustments? is it 8mpx pic (stock settings) or 23 or?
Here are my examples. Photo taken with 23pmx resolution at different angels. As you can see one photo is fine and second one has similar to what you are having. If you are taking photo of the light bulb that close you still get the effect of super nova lightning lol Also make sure your camera glass isn't full of your finger prints or dirty. Because if your camera lens receiving dirty lightning it might reflect that too
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These were cropped pictures of a full image.
The first one Is taken like in the first exams here with the light source in the marked area, you see this rays.
The second one is taken like in the second example here with the light source in the middle. (any other position apart from top left looks fine.
Settings are 23mp superior mode brightness to low (so it's visible better ) it's actually always visible apart from 16:9 aspect ratio because it cuts some centimetres from the top and the bottom of the 4:3 image.
It's forced like that
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These were cropped pictures of a full image.
The first one Is taken like in the first exams here with the light source in the marked area, you see this rays.
The second one is taken like in the second example here with the light source in the middle. (any other position apart from top left looks fine.
Settings are 23mp superior mode brightness to low (so it's visible better ) it's actually always visible apart from 16:9 aspect ratio because it cuts some centimetres from the top and the bottom of the 4:3 image.
It's forced like that
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So looks like you have unlocked/rooted device and you have manual control in superior mode. Are you using chinmoy32 modified camera app? I am on stock Nougat (no root, not unlocked)
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So looks like you have unlocked/rooted device and you have manual control in superior mode. Are you using chinmoy32 modified camera app? I am on stock Nougat (no root, not unlocked)
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These are just the sliders for brightness and colour as your can toggle over settings in stock camera.
Unlocked and rooted. Drm fix applied. So that's not the problem.
As I marked in the first picture the rays only appear in that area. It's not software related.
Would you try to place a light near that area I marked and see if you get something similar?
Nilleiz said:
These are just the sliders for brightness and colour as your can toggle over settings in stock camera.
Unlocked and rooted. Drm fix applied. So that's not the problem.
As I marked in the first picture the rays only appear in that area. It's not software related.
Would you try to place a light near that area I marked and see if you get something similar?
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I dont have those settings. I've read somewhere that xz camera makes the corners of the pics blur.
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I dont have those settings. I've read somewhere that xz camera makes the corners of the pics blur.
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Well that's not at all in that area. but thank you for your help
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Well that's not at all in that area. but thank you for your help
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Well it is the mouse. I dont have the light bulb like yours at work. When I get home I will see if it is the same. But I'd say it is normal
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Well it is the mouse. I dont have the light bulb like yours at work. When I get home I will see if it is the same. But I'd say it is normal
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Thank you for your support
If you don't mind, try to get it right next to the front / back camera switch in camera app (like in the red square I drew on that one example picture.
Thanks again
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Hi to all,
Im having some problem regarding picture quality, The pictures that are taken indoor seems to be ok, but out door images always having reddish tone, it is annoying, ill post a sample image here below, is there any solution for it?
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Whats the white balance settings are you using?
What scene settings are you using?
These 2 settings determine the outcome of the color tone.
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Whats the white balance settings are you using?
What scene settings are you using?
These 2 settings determine the outcome of the color tone.
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White balance is set to auto and scene settings is set to none.
A request for all i9003 users, can you test the same with your cameras in daylight and post pictures here?
1st reduce the size & dimensions of your images posted in this thread 600pixel is more than sufficient to see the color cast, its a pain to download that amount of data on 2g plans.
White balance is set to auto and scene settings is set to none.
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if these are the settings then instead of auto try daylight & see if that corrects the color cast or not, if not then you are having a real bug as I don't have such problems.
What firmware are you using?
Ill reduce the size mate
Im using the stock DDKB2 firmware. What about yours? CAn you post a smaple picture taken in your camera in daylight?
I have attached 2 images which are shot on auto white balance they both look good in color.
Here is the Exif info from the images
Camera Model: GT-I9003
Firmware: fw 05.15 prm 08.56
Date/Time: 2011:03:15 14:49:34
Shutter speed: 1/347 sec
Aperture: 2.6
Exposure mode: Av
Exposure compensation: +1/2
Flash: Off
Metering mode: Average
ISO: 50
Focal length: 3.5mm
Image size: 1600 x 1200
Rotation: none
Color space: sRGB
Saturation: Normal
Sharpness: Normal
Contrast: Normal
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I have Kb1 that's what I got the phone shipped to me,
I have not been able to update via kies.
Reset all the camera options & then try shooting some subject with something white in it so test if it still gives you a color cast, if it does then YES there is a problem.
Your images are looking good dude, well if there is a problem is that related to hardware or software, whats your opinion
Problem could be anywhere, need to get this test done by some other users who have Kb2 on there phone.
I also notice that there is a FW version for the camera (2nd line in exif info)
mine is Firmware: fw 05.15 prm 08.56
I still request you to reset all the camera defaults & then shoot a test image & post the results. Then we ask some other user to do the same only then we will be able to conclude if its hardware or software related issue.
I just reset the camera and took some pictures, ill post it back soon
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Problem could be anywhere, need to get this test done by some other users who have Kb2 on there phone.
I also notice that there is a FW version for the camera (2nd line in exif info)
mine is Firmware: fw 05.15 prm 08.56
I still request you to reset all the camera defaults & then shoot a test image & post the results. Then we ask some other user to do the same only then we will be able to conclude if its hardware or software related issue.
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May i know where i can find the camera firmware?
I googled for that software and got it
Nowhere only samsung would have it, but 1st post the images & let me check the exif info of your images, that will tell us a bit more.
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I googled for that software and got it
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Which software, are you talking about the camera firmware?
Dont do anything as yet with the camera fw.
I was talking about this software dude,
https://market.android.com/details?id=since2006.apps.exifdroid
Shows the info about the picture taken
This is the image taken after resetting the camera
Is that wall white (distant right side) if yes then it has some uneven color cast of slight red color which suggest 2 things that either there is indeed some hardware issue or check the lens for any smudge marks which will make it work like some filter.
Clean the lens & take some thing real white from your house (can be multiple white items) arrange that on the roof or garden & shoot in full daylight.
Don't shoot against light as you have done instead the sun should be behind you or to any side but not against you. We will be able to conclude soon.
As per your image exif info we both have the same fw 05.15 prm 08.56
Some more images, unfortunately the 1st image still has the red tint, but i think it depends on the angle and the amount of light!! It cant be a hardware error, as the 2nd image is still good in the same location
These look okay, but I'd take it to Samsung and ask them to check it out, just to be sure
It does show the reddish cast,
in some shots its more in another its less,
the best method to test is what i suggested in my earlier post. your camera does seem to have a problem when I compare the images with my camera shot on auto WB.
Took my mobile to samsung service center, they said they will reflash the same firmware and it may solve the problem. I bought the mobile exactly 12 days before, Can i ask them to replace my mobile? In need of your opinion guys
Hi does anyone else have a grainy and noisy front camera experience? I mean in the view finder is horrible and then when saved the picture gets kind of fixed, but still snapchat doesn't make this arrangement for example.. Of course it's more noticeable in poor lightning conditions
Nothink u can do ,all xperia z3 have same engine : Take a photo and then remove noises .The problem is snapchat only "take a photo" ,this app won't remove noised (i think its related with DMR keys algorithm)
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Nothink u can do ,all xperia z3 have same engine : Take a photo and then remove noises .The problem is snapchat only "take a photo" ,this app won't remove noised (i think its related with DMR keys algorithm)
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But in a dark environment If you cover the front camera with your finger what do you see exactly, I mean is it completely dark? Would you upload a screenshot for me please? [emoji16]
If i using default camera my screen is almost perfectly black (of corse i talking about photo ,not camera viewer) ,in snapchat i have little blue noises ,its all of high ISO (if camera see low light ISO get high ,and noises become more visible) its normal for everyone ,cuz as i said snapchat can't use our algoritms to remove noises (its feature only for default camera ;/)
Zaiid said:
If i using default camera my screen is almost perfectly black (of corse i talking about photo ,not camera viewer) ,in snapchat i have little blue noises ,its all of high ISO (if camera see low light ISO get high ,and noises become more visible) its normal for everyone ,cuz as i said snapchat can't use our algoritms to remove noises (its feature only for default camera ;/)
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these is my snapchat photo whit my finger on top of the lense, the default camera app is the same in the view finder, not in the pics though ad you mentioned, is it normal?
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these is my snapchat photo whit my finger on top of the lense, the default camera app is the same in the view finder, not in the pics though ad you mentioned, is it normal?
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Black screen while you have your finger over it? Yea that's what you want...
Looks like we are trouble shooting your nude pics being too blurry for snapchat based off that second pic ahha
dannycalgary said:
Black screen while you have your finger over it? Yea that's what you want...
Looks like we are trouble shooting your nude pics being too blurry for snapchat based off that second pic ahha
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Please I'm talking seriously, it's not just snapchat instagram as well I just want to know if other people experience the same
As i said, photos from your smartphone look corect
Sad indeed.
Guess when i finally get a Z3, I probably wont be snapchatting much because I already dont on my Moto G due to poor front camera
LOL!! You guys should check out the front camera comparison at phonearena. Z3 came last. Surprisingly in both front and rear camera comparisons....
I use the screen as flash you can turn that on in the snapchat settings. The photo's now have much better quality.
Other camera apps can use the algorithms to correct noise, snapchat can't apparently
Guys an easy fix to this Snapchat problem is just to download the app SaveMySnaps. It allows you to use the default camera to take snaps. Im sure there are alternative apps for instagram too that use the default camera.
I've noticed that my brightness keeps changing for no reason. It would randomly increase for a second and then go back. And it sometimes keeps doing that like it is caught in a loop.
Has anyone else noticed anything similar?
If only happen in certain place, check if there are sources of IR or UV in the environment, like a surveillance | remote control | fish tank..., light sensor also sensitive to invisible light.
Also can do a test, in stable light source cover/release light sensor, use some sensor test app, if the reading jump like hell, maybe something error with hardware or system.
And don't use case during test, notch-less phone's light sensor on the very edge of the top glass, most third-party case actually blocked a bit.
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If only happen in certain place, check if there are sources of IR or UV in the environment, like a surveillance | remote control | fish tank..., light sensor also sensitive to invisible light.
Also can do a test, in stable light source cover/release light sensor, use some sensor test app, if the reding jump like hell, maybe something error with hardware or system.
And don't use case during test, notch-less phone's light sensor on the very edge of the top glass, most third-party case actually blocked a bit.
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Thank you for your suggestions. I've already looked into the sensor data, and did not find any significant errors.
What I did find however, is that the sensor seem to be really sensitive. I found a certain position at my room desk, where the illuminance measured by the sensor fluctuates sporadically even if I turn the phone by 1 degree. I don't know how these sensors work, but it seems to be taking data from the point it is directly facing. In my case, this causes the value to jump between 10 and 30 lux, which is apparently enough to change the brightness level. I am using the preinstalled screen protector, so that might cause some random light refraction.
ULTRAJC said:
If only happen in certain place, check if there are sources of IR or UV in the environment, like a surveillance | remote control | fish tank..., light sensor also sensitive to invisible light.
Also can do a test, in stable light source cover/release light sensor, use some sensor test app, if the reding jump like hell, maybe something error with hardware or system.
And don't use case during test, notch-less phone's light sensor on the very edge of the top glass, most third-party case actually blocked a bit.
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Also, the circle at the back above the flash, is that another light sensor?
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Also, the circle at the back above the flash, is that another light sensor?
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Yes, you reminded me, that's ambient light sensor too, also affects screen brightness. third party software cannot detect that sensor. but still can do "cover" test look at the screen brightness changes
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Yes, you reminded me, that's ambient light sensor too, also affects screen brightness. third party software cannot detect that sensor. but still can do "cover" test look at the screen brightness changes
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Are you sure that is also a brightness sensor? Nothing happens when I cover mine. Can you please test on yours?
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Thank you so much for your time and effort! I feel kinda stupid for not doing a test like this before... Either way, mine reacts to a flashlight as well, and to dimmer light as well if I cover the front sensor. Thanks again and have a nice day!
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Also, just one more thing. Do you have any explanation for this - https://photos.app.goo.gl/r4WfrqxKYKGq5np6A
The whole thing is really annoying as it keeps randomly increasing/decreasing the brightness while the ambient light remains the same. It does only seem to happen with illuminance levels between 10 and 30 lux, so I'm not sure if it could be hardware related...
That reading seems glitch to me, if lighting is stable.
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That reading seems glitch to me, if lighting is stable.
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It is weird, as it only happens in one room. I've also tried with my girlfriend's Nord, and it jumped between 10 and 80 at a similar spot. Whatever, thanks!
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So can anybody help with this disaster?
Severely cropped to not nuke the servers.
The more distant classic sunset was fine, but then we got an amazing and huge red sun just before it set. The whole ball was the colour of the edge or the stripe in this shambles of a shot.
Other than turn off AI what else should I do?
I have to say my old Mate 40 RS Porsche Edition would have got the shot no problem. Very disappointed in my new S22 Ultra.
This is one of those possibly never see again chances, gutted.
This is due to Infra Red blooming. The sensors are very sensitive to IR, so there is an IR blocking filter in the system. Unfortunately, this does not block 100% of the IR on bright objects like the Sun. You can see this effect by taking a shot of a hot electric stove burner with the camera; you don't even have to take a picture to see the effect just look at the screen. I've attached a shot here, the stove was not a bright pink to the eye, that is due to IR leaking through the filter. Because IR has a longer wavelength than Red, the light is focused by the lens farther away, and it can cause a bloom around the Sun like that. Other cameras have the same problem, and it depends on the strength of the IR filter. There are disadvantages to making the IR filter stronger like color distortion in the other colors so it is always a compromise. There isn't much that can be done about it.
edit - I have to add that taking a picture of the low Sun like that is just about the worst case and you probably won't notice it anywhere else. When the Sun is low and most of the light is being blocked so you can actually stand to look at it (still not good to stare), almost all of the IR light is still getting through, and so the IR component is a lot more than usual. You can even get the same effect on a pro DSLR.
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This is due to Infra Red blooming. The sensors are very sensitive to IR, so there is an IR blocking filter in the system. Unfortunately, this does not block 100% of the IR on bright objects like the Sun. You can see this effect by taking a shot of a hot electric stove burner with the camera; you don't even have to take a picture to see the effect just look at the screen. I've attached a shot here, the stove was not a bright pink to the eye, that is due to IR leaking through the filter. Because IR has a longer wavelength than Red, the light is focused by the lens farther away, and it can cause a bloom around the Sun like that. Other cameras have the same problem, and it depends on the strength of the IR filter. There are disadvantages to making the IR filter stronger like color distortion in the other colors so it is always a compromise. There isn't much that can be done about it.
edit - I have to add that taking a picture of the low Sun like that is just about the worst case and you probably won't notice it anywhere else. When the Sun is low and most of the light is being blocked so you can actually stand to look at it (still not good to stare), almost all of the IR light is still getting through, and so the IR component is a lot more than usual. You can even get the same effect on a pro DSLR.
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Many thanks for the detailed reply. So turning off the AI assist stuff wouldn't have helped then. Anything in Pro mode or Expert Raw that could help?
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Many thanks for the detailed reply. So turning off the AI assist stuff wouldn't have helped then. Anything in Pro mode or Expert Raw that could help?
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Probably not, since it is an optical effect. You might be able to 'shop it out. On a pro camera, you can use a very small aperture which brings the IR light more into focus, but that's not an option on the phone which has a fixed aperture. I've got a very similar shot from my old Note 20 U that had the same problem. Below is a cropped in shot from an Olympus mirrorless camera that shows the same Red ring thing, just to a smaller degree. It isn't helping that the "100x" zoom works by cropping the 10X image, it amplifies small defects like that.
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Many thanks for the detailed reply. So turning off the AI assist stuff wouldn't have helped then. Anything in Pro mode or Expert Raw that could help?
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Only a stronger UV/IR cut filter would help.
I shoot IR/UV and full spectrum with a DSLR and RAW video cameras... Its a balance between visible light and correct look with most sensors.
Unless you use (physical) filters, nothing you can really do. Most cameras are very sensitive to IR light, and blocking IR/near IR completely wipes out a lot of deep reds and throws off colors as well. Sensors do not see at all like our eyes do.
Channel swapped 590nm IR shot attached.
Hey gang,
I would love a developer or anyone in the know to investigate this potential bull**** moon filter that kicks in automatically when you zoom in on the moon. This first came to my attention on the Note 9. Basically it looks like the camera app is detecting the moon phase, then after a bright flash it loads the appropriate phase image.
While zooming in, the light and fuzziness just goes away and you have this clear image and no light, no stars or clouds, just this prefect moon shot. Tonight o tested through a dirty window and I got the same clear photo. I took two and noticed they are different hues between the shots. So.... anyone already know what's up or care to investigate? Maybe there's some moon phases photos in a directory somewhere.
If you need anything from me please hit me up.
Thank you
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I remember reading posts from Samsung users claiming the moon pics from Samsung phones are very much real, unlike the ones from Huawei and other Chinese brands.
I'm not an expert on the matter because I never cared much about this stuff, personally I always thought all brands use some sort of AI for the moon shots.
The moon is super bright, when I focus my DSLR with a zoom lens on the moon I can't see any stars as well. To photograph the moon the camera uses daylight shutter settings.
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The moon is super bright, when I focus my DSLR with a zoom lens on the moon I can't see any stars as well. To photograph the moon the camera uses daylight shutter settings.
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Oh ****, on a DSLR too huh? Maybe this is just how it works then. Thank you
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Oh ****, on a DSLR too huh? Maybe this is just how it works then. Thank you
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At night, the moon is the brightest object in the sky. The human eye can compensate for the difference which allows us to see stars and moon at the same time. Most DSLR cameras and all phone cameras are not sophisticated enough to allow both stars and the moon to be visible. Pretty much every moon shot where you see both the moon and the stars are composite shots. Where the photographer exposed for the moon then exposed for the stars. Then take both shots and overlay one on the other.
There was an article written when the s21u was first released and they compared the s21u moon shots to shots taken using a DSLR of the same time. They found that the s21u moon shots were real and there was no overlay used.
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Hey gang,
I would love a developer or anyone in the know to investigate this potential bull**** moon filter that kicks in automatically when you zoom in on the moon. This first came to my attention on the Note 9. Basically it looks like the camera app is detecting the moon phase, then after a bright flash it loads the appropriate phase image.
While zooming in, the light and fuzziness just goes away and you have this clear image and no light, no stars or clouds, just this prefect moon shot. Tonight o tested through a dirty window and I got the same clear photo. I took two and noticed they are different hues between the shots. So.... anyone already know what's up or care to investigate? Maybe there's some moon phases photos in a directory somewhere.
If you need anything from me please hit me up.
Thank you
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Photographing stars with good detail takes about 20-30 seconds. A telephoto pic of the moon takes only a fraction of a second since it's so bright so you won't see much of any star detail in the background.
Funny I just took a couple photos the other day and thought the same, then I saw this post
Huawei fakes it for sure and OP's theory is spot on for Huawei.
Samsung - Well, I didnt expect that from Samsung,
JazonX said:
Huawei fakes it for sure and OP's theory is spot on for Huawei.
Samsung - Well, I didnt expect that from Samsung,
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Samsung isn't faking it. Here is a shot I took a few weeks ago. I had to do some Lightroom work.
I've taken enough pictures of the moon to know.
If you really need to go down the rabbit hole, here is the article that confirms Samsung is not faking it unlike Huawei. - https://www.gsmarena.com/myth_debunked_samsungs_100x_zoom_doesnt_fake_moon_photos-news-47487.php
A few months late, but there is a video of someone comparing the S22's telephoto capabilities with those of the Nikon P1000 and he did confirm that the S22 applies a filter to the moon with the 30x zoom. It's pretty obvious once you see the difference side by side. If you watch the video you'll see it relatively clearly. (Just look for S22 vs P1000 on YouTube, creator is named Versus, skip to 5 minutes)
The best method to test it out for yourself is to take a photo of the moon through some treebranches. Some people tried this and got the filter to only partially cover the moon this way. 2 of the pictures posted here also have this smooth artificial look, but it seems like the AI got the colors right.
Lunar Ellipse take 1.5 months ago in Tokyo
Took this last night and did a remaster on it.. noticed a square like the moon was pasted on top of the black background... looks faked to me... 
The original picture and then remastered.
Quite possibly the reason it's "debunked" is because people that are trying to debunk it are taking pictures not pointing in the direction of the moon.. the phone does have sensors in it which let it know what direction it's facing, where its looking and so on.. so if you're taking pictures of a ping pong ball in your house... the phone knows you aren't pointing it in the actual direction of the moon..
This is interesting, this would be an awesome conspiracy. It wouldn't be too hard to debunk: find a small circular object that would match the size of the moon and brightness (use an led or a pen light), use full zoom mode, aim the phone exactly where the moon should be.
Shot some days ago with my 22U/Exynos (edited with Lightroom on Android)
Just stepped out of the door, seen the moon, seen where the plane was flying, and took my chance
phatmanxxl, could probably spoof the phones sensors to trick it into thinking it's looking at the moon.. not sure what sensors would need to be spoofed but I'm guessing gps would be one of them.