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[Q] Constant Loss of Signal (Sprint)

Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?

TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.

jell3d said:
I don't "think" I've had LOS... but if I notice it over the next couple days I'll let you know.
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Sweet, thanks

Yes, I was just about to create a thread asking the same thing. The signal icon turns to an empty triangle randomly for no more than a minute. It's been happening all day =/
The phone is locked and 3G is working. Not sure about LTE just yet.
Edit: Here's a pic (lasted ~30 seconds)
http://i.imgur.com/mS4EUgd.jpg
Sent from my Nexus 5

I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.

KiNG OMaR said:
I think it's because the N5 just has terrible reception in general. I get 1 LTE bar in areas where my Moto X used to get full LTE bars.
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I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Cheater912 said:
I'm not sure because it'll drop when I have full bar 3G.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I have experienced random signal drops, even when I have full bars. It might only happen when it's switching between LTE/HSPA, but I haven't really payed attention.

Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.

I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
Sent from my Nexus 5

Cheater912 said:
I went to the online chat and the guy apparently "refreshed the network and fixed the glitch." I thought he was full of ****, but I haven't lost bars yet ^.^
Edit: never mind, he was full of ****...
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I have been having the same problem at work and I can trace it to switching between network types. LTE to 3G to 1x. At home I'm good to go. I think it may be because Sprint installed a micro cell in our building and it's not LTE compatible.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Might just be a not so great radio software/firmware at the moment. Most likely future updates will make it better. Now, that doesn't help you in the interim but that's most likely it.

my worst fear.. LG's are notorious for dropping signal. I know this because my old LG Optimus G did it, and many others had this problem as well. You can google or look at my old posts.

I ran a Network Signal Pro log last night and it was a constant signal/no signal. Not sure if it was just voice or voice and date. I have attached it, if someone who knows how to read that better than me could look at it that would be great. I'm running another log right now, will be 60 minutes with a 30 poling rate. I'll post that later. The signal is pretty weak since I am in a hangar at an airport. So we will see how it is.

TempeDuck said:
Is anyone anyone else constantly losing and regaining signal? I just noticed it once I got home from work. I'm unlocked and rooted. I updated the PRL and profile. I noticed the signal lose after this, but I wasn't paying much attention before I got home.
Anyone have any advise before I RMA this thing?
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I'm having this issue -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516543
I thought it was a bad sim/the fact that sprint doesn't even recognize the device. I plan on waiting until the 8th to take any action personally.

lilotimz said:
Sprint is doing a lot of backend tweaking to support the Nexus 5s. Lots of performance changes hour by hour as they try and set up the network to allow unlocked Nexus phones.
First time allowing a phone on their network that's not sold them so these are all part of the growing pains. Just keep giving Sprint productive feedback so they can iron out the issues.
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Why should any "tweaking' be required? GSM networks have let on all phones for years. It would seem that once Sprint allows a phone on the network, it should be in the same position as a GSM network with respect to phones that it did not sell.

Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?

Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
Juiceboxxhero said:
Also OP, do you mind providing your general location?
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Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.

TempeDuck said:
Here is the next log. Never lost a connection.
The only difference I see here is EVDO A at work vs EHRPD at home. Wonder if that is part of the issue?
Home is near 48th St and Elliot Rd in Phoenix and work is at Sky Harbor Airport.
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Ah - other side of the country. Didn't see you had it in your profile as well, my bad.
Other side of the country which makes me nervous that it's not a sprint issue - I'm in Detroit near campus martius and still having similar issues.

it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG

dicecuber said:
it isn't only Sprint, it happens in Rogers and Fido in Canada as well. So I believe it is LG
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I feel it may be a sprint issue only due to it constantly losing connection of EHRPD but it being fine now that I on on EVDO A at work. It is the same radio and antenna for EHRPD and EVDO A, right?
I'm going to Salt Lake City this weekend, I'll have to see how it preforms there.

Metro PCS Signal Issue (Brooklyn Area)

My friend purchased a new 1+1 and is having issues obtaining a good signal in his basement apartment in Brooklyn. I was wondering if anyone else in the NY area that may be in a basement area is experiencing these issues on MetroPCS.
Also does anyone have a good wifi based calling app that works well. He has tried Uber and Viber I believe but had issues with both. Any help would be appreciated and he is running full stock no root.
I understand that in a basement not all carriers operate well but just trying to see if anyone out there has a solution that I have not been able to find. If not there will be a 1+1 for sale... LOL
Thanks in advance

Can't speak for MetroPCS but since they're pretty much with T-Mobile. I live in Brooklyn and don't have any difficulties obtaining signal in my basement.
I'm not sure if it would even help if he switched to T-Mobile since they're pretty much the same company.

zephiK said:
Can't speak for MetroPCS but since they're pretty much with T-Mobile. I live in Brooklyn and don't have any difficulties obtaining signal in my basement.
I'm not sure if it would even help if he switched to T-Mobile since they're pretty much the same company.
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We are going to try that today since my boy who is on T-Mobile is getting his phone today. He is going to go over there and check it out. The difference is of course T-Mobile has priority on the towers and not sure where MetroPCS falls in with the other MVNO's as far as priority for the towers.
He had an old LG 770 or something that apparently worked great but it was also a MetroPCS specific phone

playya said:
We are going to try that today since my boy who is on T-Mobile is getting his phone today. He is going to go over there and check it out. The difference is of course T-Mobile has priority on the towers and not sure where MetroPCS falls in with the other MVNO's as far as priority for the towers.
He had an old LG 770 or something that apparently worked great but it was also a MetroPCS specific phone
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Wow lol your friends sure have a lot of invites .... if they're now starting to get T-Mobile and want a good plan, they should get the T-Mobile $30 plan. 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5GB of high speed data. Its a bummer that the 7 day trial for TMo the iphone uses a nano.. if he has a adapter, he can use the adapter to turn the nano to a micro and then put it in the opo.

zephiK said:
Wow lol your friends sure have a lot of invites .... if they're now starting to get T-Mobile and want a good plan, they should get the T-Mobile $30 plan. 100 minutes, unlimited text, 5GB of high speed data. Its a bummer that the 7 day trial for TMo the iphone uses a nano.. if he has a adapter, he can use the adapter to turn the nano to a micro and then put it in the opo.
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Wow do they really use a nano because thats exactly what I told him to do but like I said we will be testing it out on T-Mobile later today. He actually purchase a signal booster and I have no idea why. I would simply try different companies since most are month to month now.
Hold on one of my friends just did that and got the Iphone on Monday. He said it was an Iphone 5s that was sent to him for testing. That has a nano?

playya said:
Wow do they really use a nano because thats exactly what I told him to do but like I said we will be testing it out on T-Mobile later today. He actually purchase a signal booster and I have no idea why. I would simply try different companies since most are month to month now.
Hold on one of my friends just did that and got the Iphone on Monday. He said it was an Iphone 5s that was sent to him for testing. That has a nano?
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Yeah Apple standardly uses Nano-SIMs... he can buy a Nano to Micro SIM adapter. Thats weird that he bought a signal booster, T Mobile usually supplies you one for free if you fulfill certain criteria when it comes to having 1 bar of signal or something like that.
SIM Nano-SIM
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http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-5685.php
Nano-SIM
iPhone 5s is not compatible with existing micro-SIM cards
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https://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/

zephiK said:
Yeah Apple standardly uses Nano-SIMs... he can buy a Nano to Micro SIM adapter. Thats weird that he bought a signal booster, T Mobile usually supplies you one for free if you fulfill certain criteria when it comes to having 1 bar of signal or something like that.
http://www.gsmarena.com/apple_iphone_5s-5685.php
https://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/
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Yea I was just reading up on it now. Not an Iphone guy at all so I was not sure but I saw that its different. Well my boy will have to change his sim card today....

playya said:
Yea I was just reading up on it now. Not an Iphone guy at all so I was not sure but I saw that its different. Well my boy will have to change his sim card today....
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Or a adapter if he goes into a phone shop, they should carry them there. Its really weird too because when I powered on my OPO with the tmobile sim, it defaulted to metropcs apn instead of the tmo 4g apn so he should watch out for that as well

zephiK said:
Or a adapter if he goes into a phone shop, they should carry them there. Its really weird too because when I powered on my OPO with the tmobile sim, it defaulted to metropcs apn instead of the tmo 4g apn so he should watch out for that as well
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Yeah so did mine but I did not even know it was an issue till I started messing around with stuff. I got signal and was able to make calls. I changed it in both Hangouts and Mobile Networks
Edit: I am on T-Mobile as well and it works fine for me

playya said:
We are going to try that today since my boy who is on T-Mobile is getting his phone today. He is going to go over there and check it out. The difference is of course T-Mobile has priority on the towers and not sure where MetroPCS falls in with the other MVNO's as far as priority for the towers.
He had an old LG 770 or something that apparently worked great but it was also a MetroPCS specific phone
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I have T-Mobile and a guy at work always rags me since the merger saying I'm on Metro. I live and work in the Tampa Bay area so both T-Mobile and Metro have 4G/LTE service here. A few co-workers have Metro and I always kill them on speed test. In fact some of them need to walk outside just to make a phone call or download something while I can do it all inside without any loss in service.
In fact the guy who rags me is on Verizon and he now shuts his mouth since I also destroyed his speed test results.
I really just think it has to do with Metro.

bp328i said:
I have T-Mobile and a guy at work always rags me since the merger saying I'm on Metro. I live and work in the Tampa Bay area so both T-Mobile and Metro have 4G/LTE service here. A few co-workers have Metro and I always kill them on speed test. In fact some of them need to walk outside just to make a phone call or download something while I can do it all inside without any loss in service.
In fact the guy who rags me is on Verizon and he now shuts his mouth since I also destroyed his speed test results.
I really just think it has to do with Metro.
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I agree with you and like I said the test will be done later today but trying to keep him from doing anything crazy till we test. He has to stand in one part of his apartment just to make a call. I would be upset too but then again its a basement.... :laugh:

Its probably on lower priority like what playya said to make people switch over from MetroPCS to T Mobile as they're slowly and slowly reallocating the spectrum to tmo.
http://allthingsd.com/20131206/t-mobile-taps-metropcs-spectrum-to-boost-lte-network-speeds/
Edit: Kinda off topic but found this interesting http://blog.laptopmag.com/tmobile-phones-longer-battery-life

Yea my house in NY was out in Long Island and in my basement there I was still able to get reception and about 20 down speeds while I was there. I even told him to put his phone on Edge but it did not work either. I think/hope a different carrier like T-Mo will solve issue

playya said:
Yea my house in NY was out in Long Island and in my basement there I was still able to get reception and about 20 down speeds while I was there. I even told him to put his phone on Edge but it did not work either. I think/hope a different carrier like T-Mo will solve issue
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Lets hope so too. Looking forward to hearing the results

@zephiK No luck with T-Mobile and basement. It seems the antenna does not like his basement with MetroPCS or T-Mobile

Thats a bummer did he try the signal booster? Does he have any windows in the basement?

zephiK said:
Thats a bummer did he try the signal booster? Does he have any windows in the basement?
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He ordered it and is waiting for it to come to him. Yes he has windows but still an issue. I see a lot of complaints in reference to signal strength on here. I dont suffer from any of these issues

playya said:
He ordered it and is waiting for it to come to him. Yes he has windows but still an issue. I see a lot of complaints in reference to signal strength on here. I dont suffer from any of these issues
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Same here. The only thing I can think of is that there are a lot of walls and not a lot of windows so signal is hard to penetrate. Does he get LTE speeds as well? Too bad the T Mobile Take Action page is down, it was a page to note down complaints on signal.

AT&T - Just activated last night - Issues

Hello all,
I love being able to go on a forum again... I have been rocking an iPhone for the past year. Anyway, I just put my sim card yesterday. Unplugged this morning at 6:30AM., already down to 41%... I uninstalled most of everything. This is an E6653 Unlocked from Handtec.
Do I have to do anything special to make this work better with ATT. It's working, but the signal has not gone past 4G. I know for a fact that there is great LTE right from where Iam typing this. But blah. Do I need to call ATT and tell them I'm no longer using an iPhone?
The battery I'm guessing it's just settling. It was warm this morning, maybe some enrant thing from booting up yesterday. After a recycle today, it seems fine.

'4G' icon means 'LTE' though (on international models). Check this one out -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62587394&postcount=83
But your speed could still be throttled. ATT used to have 'different' LTE plans for iphones (they still do - I think). So people had to call ATT to put them on android LTE plan. Then ATT used to ask them to provide 'ATT branded' android phone's IMEI to activate the plan. It was a PITA & happened only when people were switching from iphone to android & vice versa (android to android has always been fine on ATT)

I just called ATT., and redid the APN's for ATT. Just to be safe. Still says 4G., it's my understanding that it should say H+ or something along those lines. But what you sent says it means mid ground. With the 4G, I'm getting 11Mbps Down, 5Mbps Up...

rmd0311 said:
I just called ATT., and redid the APN's for ATT. Just to be safe. Still says 4G., it's my understanding that it should say H+ or something along those lines. But what you sent says it means mid ground. With the 4G, I'm getting 11Mbps Down, 5Mbps Up...
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Did you reboot after ATT has changed your plan? 4G & LTE icons are mutually exclusive on Sony phones (country dependent) & they both represent 'LTE' in the US. So yes, yours should say H+ according to the speed, which can also vary wildly even on LTE. Check out the screenshot - all three were done on LTE. Interestingly, the second one was the slowest one when I added 'hipri' to 'APN type'. You don't have that, do you?

schecter7 said:
Did you reboot after ATT has changed your plan? 4G & LTE icons are mutually exclusive on Sony phones (country dependent) & they both represent 'LTE' in the US. So yes, yours should say H+ according to the speed, which can also vary wildly even on LTE. Check out the screenshot - all three were done on LTE. Interestingly, the second one was the slowest one when I added 'hipri' to 'APN type'. You don't have that, do you?
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Those three speedtests were run at the same location using the same tower?!
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rmd0311 said:
I just called ATT., and redid the APN's for ATT. Just to be safe. Still says 4G., it's my understanding that it should say H+ or something along those lines. But what you sent says it means mid ground. With the 4G, I'm getting 11Mbps Down, 5Mbps Up...
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I've got the E6653 on AT&T and it only shows 4G as well. As schecter7 stated, 4G is LTE on Sony international firmware. You are correct about battery as well, it does settle down after several cycles.

So., phone finally died. At 2:44PM when I unplugged it at 6:30AM. That is shameful. Hopefully it was just the first run... I did nothing intensive, no videos, no anything. Ran waze for 15-20 minutes during morning commute. It died half way through my walk this afternoon using RunKeeper.

augie7107 said:
Those three speedtests were run at the same location using the same tower?!
Yep, while I was sitting at the same spot & watching movies! Talk about the nation's most reliable LTE network lol But I live downtown & my ATT line is consistently faster than my other Tmob line. So I can't complain.
Also someone mentioned adding 'hipri' [=high priority] to 'APN Type' speeds up things. But it did exactly the opposite thing (second ~2mpbs reading) lol So that case was an outlier. But I do see 10-50 mbps range daily.
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schecter7 said:
augie7107 said:
Those three speedtests were run at the same location using the same tower?!
Yep, while I was sitting at the same spot & watching movies! Talk about the nation's most reliable LTE network lol But I live downtown & my ATT line is consistently faster than my other Tmob line. So I can't complain.
Also someone mentioned adding 'hipri' [=high priority] to 'APN Type' speeds up things. But it did exactly the opposite thing (second ~2mpbs reading) lol So that case was an outlier. But I do see 10-50 mbps range daily.
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That is wild, thanks for the clarification. Also, based on your advice, I am going to remove hipri from my APN as well. I entered mine manually after I could not get LTE at all even though it was present. I found out AT&T downgraded my account to 3G only after using a Xiaomi device for a few months. I had to call and give them an LTE IMEI to get it switched back. Of course, I used an IMEI from a LTE AT&T device I have in my closet as the Z5 one was showing up as an old Sony P900 on the website under my account.
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4G is LTE on a US network. If you had a US, Canada or Mexico firmware, then it would show up as LTE. Once one of these stock firmwares get released from Sony, then you can flash it and it'll show LTE.
As for your battery, let it recycle a couple of times and if it's still a problem, you can always reset the phone.

rmd0311 said:
Hello all,
I love being able to go on a forum again... I have been rocking an iPhone for the past year. Anyway, I just put my sim card yesterday. Unplugged this morning at 6:30AM., already down to 41%... I uninstalled most of everything. This is an E6653 Unlocked from Handtec.
Do I have to do anything special to make this work better with ATT. It's working, but the signal has not gone past 4G. I know for a fact that there is great LTE right from where Iam typing this. But blah. Do I need to call ATT and tell them I'm no longer using an iPhone?
The battery I'm guessing it's just settling. It was warm this morning, maybe some enrant thing from booting up yesterday. After a recycle today, it seems fine.
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Going back to iPhone? See your Z5 on Ebay. Out of curiosity I have to ask why?

augie7107 said:
Going back to iPhone? See your Z5 on Ebay. Out of curiosity I have to ask why?
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I liked it.. and gave it a whopping two days.... I just can't get used to Android again. Plus, while I was all giddy about getting it, and finally getting everything perfect. My entire house is all iPhones, iPads and MacBooks. I have turned into the ultimate iSheep, if this amazing phone could not pull me back. Not sure what would.
It's on eBay and CG locally. Should sell, if not, the RMA is already set with Handtec will just ship back on Monday.

rmd0311 said:
I liked it.. and gave it a whopping two days.... I just can't get used to Android again. Plus, while I was all giddy about getting it, and finally getting everything perfect. My entire house is all iPhones, iPads and MacBooks. I have turned into the ultimate iSheep, if this amazing phone could not pull me back. Not sure what would.
It's on eBay and CG locally. Should sell, if not, the RMA is already set with Handtec will just ship back on Monday.
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Definitely understand. I don't knock Apple because I've never tried it. Nice having you around, for a few days anyway Enjoy the weekend.

Why not go to Settings -> About Phone -> Status to check what kind of signal you are getting? It should correctly tell you whether you are on LTE regardless what you see on notification bar.

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4G is LTE on a US network. If you had a US, Canada or Mexico firmware, then it would show up as LTE. Once one of these stock firmwares get released from Sony, then you can flash it and it'll show LTE.
As for your battery, let it recycle a couple of times and if it's still a problem, you can always reset the phone.
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Factory resetting doesn't do anything, of the firmware is somehow corrupted you would be installing the same thing over and over. Yes it will reset caches but that can be done much faster and simpler.
I know first hand about the firmware problems, I'm on my 4th Z5 now previous ones had horrible battery life. This one is alright but not fantastic. Especially compare to my old Z3.

I would like to add..I am using Att and have the lte apn set-up.
It actually says LTE
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Joosty, any issues using it on ATT so far? How is battery life for you?

It's going quite well. Reception is great. Nothing out of the normal.
I managed 2 hours screen time with 50% battery left.
I'd say the battery should last you a day with heavy use.
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I just received my Xperia Z5 E6653 from Clove UK.
I got my nano sim from AT&T and they set it up to use the Z5 IMEI and it would only show 4G at the top of the screen.
We fiddled around with it in the store and were unable to get LTE working so we set the IMEI back to my Galaxy S5. Still no 4G LTE.
I am using the standard AT&T LTE APN.
Please help

4G is LTE on UK firmware, check speed test.

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4G is LTE on UK firmware, check speed test.
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This is the most frequently asked question by the US folks. I can't blame them though. Remember Xperia Play 4G ? LMAO
Since OP, the ultimate isheep (just kidding ), left this thread behind, let me go retarded for a second
Read the post above by augie7107 before you dare to ask this 4G question

US T-Mobile

So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.

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So I have bought a HTC u11 plus and should get it today. What I have done the past week is check my bands at the places I visit most. And while driving. I used lte discovery app to help me with this and some Google searches. In my findings band 2 is hardly used when I am at home or driving. My 1+5 is always on band 4 or 12. At home is the only place where it is on band 2 but it switches to 4 and uses this mostly but I use wifi calling at home due to coverage sucking at my house. I did a Google search on band 2 and it is not very good around my areas. So people with TMobile USA should be fine to get this phone and use here. Also my cousin has a HTC 10 from overseas which has less bands enabled and has never had an issue with lte or call connection with TMobile. Once I get the phone I will do more testing for TMobile folks. Let me know your results if you have any.
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Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!

R2-Brute said:
Any updates, CJ? Thinking about doing this myself, but I worry about that Band 2. Thanks!
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Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.

cameljockey1 said:
Lol i got the notification on this and saw CJ. For a minute i was like is he referring to me? Who the heck is CJ lol i laughed after i figured it out. . Anyway so after having the phone in my hands with all of its beauty and awesomeness. I could not take it anymore. This phone works great if you have a wifi and data connection all the time. But for people who still makes voice phone calls it is the worst.. so bad i put it on ebay yesterday. I got so frustrated the other day. I was trying to make a call and when you do, it drops down to 2g,3g. The call qualty on that is horrible. The calls always dropped and when i did have a good connection the quality was horrible. Half the time i would not get text messages and not everyone uses whats app and that is what i was trying to use because i always will have data. No VOLTE which i missed no WIfi calling which does come in handy. So i kept looking and band 2 does more than LTE I believe that band 2 also deals with AWS which is needed for calling. Man i tried.... i tried to put up with it here in the states. The phone itself is just amazing the Pixel that got away is what i call it. So if you are here in the states Dont buy it unless you have data connection and everyone has like data messaging or calling for a strong data connection. I am really sad and dissapointed at HTC the phone i have been waiting for since the HTC sensation 4g. Hopes this helps.
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Well, crap. Thank you for conducting the experiment. Yeah, it's the Pixel 2XL WITH an sd card slot, which is what I want, except apparently without Band 2, the thing's hobbled. I was gonna install the Google HDR+ camera app and have it all! Damn.
I got my hopes up because I saw reports of people bringing the Exynos Note 8 over here and getting it to work, but IT has Band 2! Seriously, how tough is it to add these bands! Do people want to sell phones or not?!!
Anyway, thanks again. An answer is an answer, even if it's not the one I was hoping for.
And yeah, if you're reclaiming that term, I completely respect that, but I still gotta go with CJ.

Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.

Eclipsed830 said:
Sucks to hear that. I've been using my HTC U11+ in the Bay Area for about two weeks now and so far it's been absolutely flawless. Not a single issue finding LTE or dropping calls.
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I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.

Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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JrWriter87 said:
If you don’t mind me asking where and which model did you order?
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Sorry for the delayed response, but I got it from Amazon. Took about 4-5 days to receive it even though Amazons system said 2 weeks. I also just noticed that it's a decent amount cheaper now as well compared to when I bought it in December by over $100.
HTC U11 Plus (2Q4D100) 6GB / 128GB 6.0-inches LTE Dual SIM Factory Unlocked - International Stock No Warranty (Ceramic Black) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07849L28F/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_TMqHAbDAA316F

Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I agree with this I've had zero issues so far since getting this phone. Only had it for a day now but prior to I ran LTE Discover on my HTC U11 and saw I very rarely used Band 2 (San Diego). After some digging I saw how Band 2 works on T-Mobile and I'm OK without it. I'll be in Vegas in a week so I'll be curious how it holds up there, though I don't really expect hiccups. The one thing I do want to get back is VOLTE/VOWIFI.

Chund3r said:
I've had the phone since late December and have had the same experience in the greater Baltimore area. Must be different bands/stronger network in our areas.
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I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.

LadyDi said:
I'm not far from you and I just picked up my U11+ from Swappa. Does this phone actually read "4G LTE" when in LTE service area? I have not seen it yet. I have the Nexus 6 and a Note 5 and both have had that when in and around Maryland. THanks for replying when you do.
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No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.

Chund3r said:
No, it just says 4G. However, when using apps such as Speed Test by Ookla, it says I'm connected to "LTE T-Mobile", and the speed test are roughly what I was getting on my previous iPhone 6S Plus.
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Thank you. I did install LTE Discovery and was able to get information on what band I am on and more. It keeps flipping back to 'H' loads which is made me wondering what I might be doing wrong if it is not in the phone itself. I am in a strong 4G LTE area for work (base) and home. My Nexus 6 and my Note 5 always read 4G LTE in an area as such. I still love this phone even though it's not 2 weeks old yet.

I'm tempted to get this for an upgrade from my HTC 10. I don't care too much about the dual camera for the HTC 12+, plus I want it in Red which might not even come out in the US. So with the bigger battery 3,900 mah, about $200 less and the red color now. Would this be a good buy if I typically travel around the east coast?

I have one I purchased on a recent trip overseas to Taiwan. My carrier here in the US is Tmobile and I only have connectivity issues in rural areas. Can someone point me to a stock ROM from Tmobile that would be compatible with this phone?
Thanks.

[DISCUSSION] - Moving Verizon S9+ to T-Mobile

I decided to move from VZW to T-Mo! Woooot!
First I will share my experience with the setup and porting of my new accounts then talk about using a VZW Phone on a T-Mo line. Yeah, I know there are couple of these threads already but they are somewhat old and unmonitored.
The transition went smooth but seemed to take almost 1.5 hours in the T-Mo store! I thought that was kinda excessive! I think the employee that was helping us was new. She didn't know much, couldn't explain anything, and kept going to her manager with every simple question I asked. Its all good, new employees have to learn! So I was fine with that aspect of the switch. It was a Sunday afternoon with nothing else going on.
They moved me from a 24GB Plan on VZW to the T-Mo One Military plan. I then added the $10.00 advanced data package on our phones. Its nice not worrying about overages and NOT paying an arm and leg for the data plan!
So my VZW bill went from about $350 to $150.00 on T-Mo. In all fairness I do have device payments on VZW, but moved those phones to save money. Will pay them off on the final bill. Still pretty happy with this! The device payments accounted for $80.00 of the VZW Bill. So I am still saving about $120.00 a month.
So now onto the service aspect.... Over all T-Mo, in FARGO ND, cant compete with Verizon! Not at all. Oh well, not too worried, I get decent coverage and "fair" data speeds.
At home, T-Mo gets about 10 megs down and 2 megs up. This was about the same speed Verizon had before they upgraded whatever tower was near my house. So, ok, at home, data sucks. No biggie, I have decent home internet package and to be quite frank, I never use my phone when I am home. I have so many gadgets with bigger screens to surf with.
At Work, Both Verizon and T-Mo get the same, 5 to 10 down and 1 to 5 up. Oh well. I can say that T-Mo is more reliable in this specific building for data when you are near a window, which I am. However, when you go into the building, where there are no Windows, T-Mo drops its data pretty low. We are talking about EDGE data. Verizon speeds would drop but not as drastic as the T-Mo. All in all I would say at work everything is equal.
Have not been around town much but when driving to work today I was using speedtest.net along the way. In general, Verizon beets T-Mo all the way from home to work.
So, now that I am a T-Mo customer with a Verizon phone I realized that there was going to be a minor learning curve. I cant get Advanced Calling features such as WiFi Calling, HD Calling, and Simultaneous Talk and Text! I knew something like what would happen because of difference in carrier implementation of those services. No biggie there. I understand that I would only need to flash the USERDATA partition to transform my VZW to a T-Mo s9+. Can anyone confirm that?
Also, I heard that the latest T-Mo update is hosed and not being pushed to the phone. I am currently on Verizon build ARE6 Dated Mid May 2018. I am not sure of the boot loader versions but I am thinking I should be able to go back one build on the T-Mo build and flash it. Hopefully. Anyone know about this?
Right now, I am at work, and I was wondering, was anyone able to turn on the advanced calling on Verizon Firmware without flashing USERDSATA? Also, those of you that made this switch with this phone, did you flash the T-Mo USERDATA? I was actually thinking about flashing the International Snap Dragon or the US Unbranded Snapdragon ROM on this phone instead of T-Mo. Did anyone do that? What sort of drawbacks did you have?

Scott said:
I decided to move from VZW to T-Mo! Woooot!
First I will share my experience with the setup and porting of my new accounts then talk about using a VZW Phone on a T-Mo line. Yeah, I know there are couple of these threads already but they are somewhat old and unmonitored.
The transition went smooth but seemed to take almost 1.5 hours in the T-Mo store! I thought that was kinda excessive! I think the employee that was helping us was new. She didn't know much, couldn't explain anything, and kept going to her manager with every simple question I asked. Its all good, new employees have to learn! So I was fine with that aspect of the switch. It was a Sunday afternoon with nothing else going on.
They moved me from a 24GB Plan on VZW to the T-Mo One Military plan. I then added the $10.00 advanced data package on our phones. Its nice not worrying about overages and NOT paying an arm and leg for the data plan!
So my VZW bill went from about $350 to $150.00 on T-Mo. In all fairness I do have device payments on VZW, but moved those phones to save money. Will pay them off on the final bill. Still pretty happy with this! The device payments accounted for $80.00 of the VZW Bill. So I am still saving about $120.00 a month.
So now onto the service aspect.... Over all T-Mo, in FARGO ND, cant compete with Verizon! Not at all. Oh well, not too worried, I get decent coverage and "fair" data speeds.
At home, T-Mo gets about 10 megs down and 2 megs up. This was about the same speed Verizon had before they upgraded whatever tower was near my house. So, ok, at home, data sucks. No biggie, I have decent home internet package and to be quite frank, I never use my phone when I am home. I have so many gadgets with bigger screens to surf with.
At Work, Both Verizon and T-Mo get the same, 5 to 10 down and 1 to 5 up. Oh well. I can say that T-Mo is more reliable in this specific building for data when you are near a window, which I am. However, when you go into the building, where there are no Windows, T-Mo drops its data pretty low. We are talking about EDGE data. Verizon speeds would drop but not as drastic as the T-Mo. All in all I would say at work everything is equal.
Have not been around town much but when driving to work today I was using speedtest.net along the way. In general, Verizon beets T-Mo all the way from home to work.
So, now that I am a T-Mo customer with a Verizon phone I realized that there was going to be a minor learning curve. I cant get Advanced Calling features such as WiFi Calling, HD Calling, and Simultaneous Talk and Text! I knew something like what would happen because of difference in carrier implementation of those services. No biggie there. I understand that I would only need to flash the USERDATA partition to transform my VZW to a T-Mo s9+. Can anyone confirm that?
Also, I heard that the latest T-Mo update is hosed and not being pushed to the phone. I am currently on Verizon build ARE6 Dated Mid May 2018. I am not sure of the boot loader versions but I am thinking I should be able to go back one build on the T-Mo build and flash it. Hopefully. Anyone know about this?
Right now, I am at work, and I was wondering, was anyone able to turn on the advanced calling on Verizon Firmware without flashing USERDSATA? Also, those of you that made this switch with this phone, did you flash the T-Mo USERDATA? I was actually thinking about flashing the International Snap Dragon or the US Unbranded Snapdragon ROM on this phone instead of T-Mo. Did anyone do that? What sort of drawbacks did you have?
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You'll need to wait until the U1 rom gets updated to bootloader V2. You'll need to successfully flash to the unlocked without Sim, then flash the Tmobile specific files with the Tmobile Sim in.

todd3835 said:
You'll need to wait until the U1 rom gets updated to bootloader V2. You'll need to successfully flash to the unlocked without Sim, then flash the Tmobile specific files with the Tmobile Sim in.
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Thanks for the heads up.

Why the switch? Here I get free Verzion service as long as I have Comcast (Xfinity) internet. No internet? You can get cell phone service for $10 bucks.

yuppicide said:
Why the switch? Here I get free Verzion service as long as I have Comcast (Xfinity) internet. No internet? You can get cell phone service for $10 bucks.
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Wow! Thats crazy good. WE dont have Comcast here and I can assure that CableOne and Midcontitennt cable will not be offering cell service anytime soon! Hell, we barely have a decent selection of HD channels. The big cable company doesnt even have Comedy Central.
I live in Fargo man. We dont have options. We just take what we can get, lol

And an update to anywho who may have read this...
The U1 v2 Bootloadder for th eunlocked device is now available thanks to @bboii86
The thread is here: //G965U1 XAA\\ Stock Odin Files Firmware G965U1UES2ARF4
I flashed this and I am totally Verizon free now! When the phone booted up it asked to reboot so it could provision the phone with the SIM (T-Mo).
When i did it came back up and WiFi calling was enabled.
Woot! My jouney is complete!

Scott said:
And an update to anywho who may have read this...
The U1 v2 Bootloadder for th eunlocked device is now available thanks to @bboii86
The thread is here: //G965U1 XAA\\ Stock Odin Files Firmware G965U1UES2ARF4
I flashed this and I am totally Verizon free now! When the phone booted up it asked to reboot so it could provision the phone with the SIM (T-Mo).
When i did it came back up and WiFi calling was enabled.
Woot! My jouney is complete!
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Hey, I'm planning to do the same you did in the next few weeks.
I'm a bit lost on what to do (first samsung phone ever), could you go trough the steps you performed?
Did you had to change the CSC at all?
Thanks!

Scott said:
Wow! Thats crazy good. WE dont have Comcast here and I can assure that CableOne and Midcontitennt cable will not be offering cell service anytime soon! Hell, we barely have a decent selection of HD channels. The big cable company doesnt even have Comedy Central.
I live in Fargo man. We dont have options. We just take what we can get, lol
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I don't use cable (other than their internet). I get all my shows off torrents. My relative does have cable and does have 3 televisions, I just don't use it.

juanjosedag said:
Hey, I'm planning to do the same you did in the next few weeks.
I'm a bit lost on what to do (first samsung phone ever), could you go trough the steps you performed?
Did you had to change the CSC at all?
Thanks!
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No, I did not do a CSC change. I only flashed the U1 firmware linked in the prior post.
I let it factory reset, the phone booted, told me it needed to reboot to adjust features for the SIM and then it came back up a second time. Walked through set up and everything worked fine.
If you are new to Samsung then you need to get familiar with an app for your PC called Odin. Its the too that is used to flash factory firmware to Samsung devices. There are tons of tutorials on how to use Odin so I wont bother with a walk through.

And one last follow up.
I have now flashed the T-MO ARF4 update and have ALL the T-Mobile Features. When I call I get the "HD+" icon now.

Scott said:
And an update to anywho who may have read this...
The U1 v2 Bootloadder for th eunlocked device is now available thanks to @bboii86
The thread is here: //G965U1 XAA\ Stock Odin Files Firmware G965U1UES2ARF4
I flashed this and I am totally Verizon free now! When the phone booted up it asked to reboot so it could provision the phone with the SIM (T-Mo).
When i did it came back up and WiFi calling was enabled.
Woot! My jouney is complete!
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i had seen it before prolly on rev1 but totally didnt remember how to do it haha.. i guess U1 is the key

elliwigy said:
i had seen it before prolly on rev1 but totally didnt remember how to do it haha.. i guess U1 is the key
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Indeed it is!

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77410988&postcount=181