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Quick question for anyone who has looked into this before ...
I know when you get an upgrade and new phone you are increasing your contract by 2 years, and that contract is what essentially gives you a discounted price on the phone... so... I'm wondering... If you were to cancel your contract (paying the $150 fee) would you also be responsible for the difference in retail price on the phone??? Or is the $150 cancellation fee the ONLY charge???
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Zenoran said:
Quick question for anyone who has looked into this before ...
I know when you get an upgrade and new phone you are increasing your contract by 2 years, and that contract is what essentially gives you a discounted price on the phone... so... I'm wondering... If you were to cancel your contract (paying the $150 fee) would you also be responsible for the difference in retail price on the phone??? Or is the $150 cancellation fee the ONLY charge???
jw
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I have been through this with Sprint and AT&T/Cingular and the cancellation fee with them is all you pay. I have never used Verizon and probably never will.
I'm just wondering my options for down the road... not too happy with Verizon.. service does work in my home city but if I try going outside or visit my hometown I can never get any signal.
will have to see who releases the newest badass pda device.. usually sprint wins the race for some reason... att & verizon still haven't even gotten the touch yet! I'm not too concerned with ATT cuz they're clearly sleeping with apple but verizon really needs to get off their asses and come up with something innovative to capture our geeky attention... IT'S NOT IN THE NETWORK.
AT&T by far have the best coverage for HSDPA in Ohio and around the USA except for the west coast for some reason. The best devices are not at the carrier's stores. Check out some options at www.onthegosolutions.com
phones on that website are NOT cheap!...
$150 cancellation fee ? You have nice contracts in the U.S. ! Here, to resign we must pay the fee for every month remaining in our mobile contract, which would amount to something like €500 ($800) for me...
m3uch4 said:
$150 cancellation fee ? You have nice contracts in the U.S. ! Here, to resign we must pay the fee for every month remaining in our mobile contract, which would amount to something like €500 ($800) for me...
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ouch! Well, that's why I was wondering if you have to pay for the phone or not too??? reason being.. I paid $100 for my Titan from Verizon with all the discounts and such.. I'm sure that would turn around and sell on ebay for 250+??? that's easily cost of my phone + cancellation fee... could easily jump ship to another carrier for a new model with little or no cost... that is, however, if they dont charge you for the phone in addition to contract cancellation.
buying phones retail seems silly though... i surely cant afford $600+ for a phone... eek!
As the title says, on no contract right now $79 unlimited everything plan with a G2, and want to get a G2x.
Amazon is selling it for $509 outright (no tax and shipping included).
Or sign a contract on the same $79 plan and get it for $149 and port my # over to the contract line and cancel the no contract one.
Now here's my theory. I looked it up and Tmo's ETF is $200. $149+200=$349. Much cheaper than $509 and the same plan I have now. Yes, I know 2gb data before throttling but I checked my history and I havent used more than 6-700mb at the most, so its a non-issue.
Any thoughts if going contract is the best way since the ETF + on contract phone price is cheaper and getting the same plan for the same price anyways? BTW, no plans to cancel Tmo anytime soon (not trying any sing contract and cancel gimmick), I just mean as an insurance policy down the road to get out if need be.
ive thought about signing a 2 year contract, keeping my unlimited data (3g, dont care for 4g) then canceling.
I don't know if your in the united stated but I got mine at a Radioshack for $499.99 plus tax. Also they have a trade and save program so i traded in my hd2 and got $95 for it so that helped a bit.
If you are not signing the contract, you can get Even More Plus unlimited plan for 59.99 and save 20$ per month.
1 yr in the off-contract, you would have saved 240$. Cheaper compared to the contract price. I got mine directly from tmo store for full price.
It's $80 a month for unlimited talk, text, and data. $60 is for talk only. Thing is if you use Google Voice for texting you don't need a text plan.
The 59.99 unlimited everything plan existed, but only for about a day before Tmo shut it down.
Its the same on or off contract right now $79.99.
The question really is $509 from Amazon or $149 with a contract (if the tmo ETF is $200 as I believe it still is).
Seems like off contract and pay $500 for a phone isnt cheaper anymore now that they dropped the contract plan to $79.99 also and the discount on the phone is more than the ETF.
I bought mine from amazon because tmobile refused to sell it to me w/o upgrading my plan. Im on an old g1 plan @ $59. So i ponied up the $509, and recieved a g2x a few days later. Unfortunately the one i got has screen bleed pretty badly so called amazon and they are sending out a replacement and labels to ship old one back for free. They also said i could wait up to 30 days to ship back the old one...pretty nice. So the one thing i can say about going with amazon is they have great customer service...at least for me.
I just refuse to pay 80 a month for phone service. Its just too rich for my blood.
At T-Mobile store I got no contract family plan for 2 lines for 110 750 minutes unlimited text and data. Also they offered 500 bucks credit with no apr which I used to get my g2x. So um paying 130 a month for unlimited without contract
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I bought mine Saturday from a T-Mobile store without a contract and use my Simple Mobile SIM in it, which does not require you to SIM unlock the phone since its still tied to T-Mobiles infrastructure. $60/month for unlimited talk,text and internet.
You do have to set a custom APN in order to get proper service.
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As the title says, on no contract right now $79 unlimited everything plan with a G2, and want to get a G2x.
Amazon is selling it for $509 outright (no tax and shipping included).
Or sign a contract on the same $79 plan and get it for $149 and port my # over to the contract line and cancel the no contract one.
Now here's my theory. I looked it up and Tmo's ETF is $200. $149+200=$349. Much cheaper than $509 and the same plan I have now. Yes, I know 2gb data before throttling but I checked my history and I havent used more than 6-700mb at the most, so its a non-issue.
Any thoughts if going contract is the best way since the ETF + on contract phone price is cheaper and getting the same plan for the same price anyways? BTW, no plans to cancel Tmo anytime soon (not trying any sing contract and cancel gimmick), I just mean as an insurance policy down the road to get out if need be.
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If you cancel your plan, don't you also have to pay the difference between the full retail price of the phone and what you originally paid for it?
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Do you really think T-Mobile and its sellers are not smart enough to do the math on this?
Read the contracts....here is what Amazon Wireless says:
$150.00 for phone
$ 35.00 for activation
$ 1.50 for taxes
$200.00 for T-Mobile early termination
$250.00 for Amazon wireless early termination
$636.50 vs $509 for just buying the phone without a contact....
yukkerz said:
I don't know if your in the united stated but I got mine at a Radioshack for $499.99 plus tax. Also they have a trade and save program so i traded in my hd2 and got $95 for it so that helped a bit.
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HD2's are selling for 200+ on Craigslist. Why not sell it there?
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You do have to set a custom APN in order to get proper service.
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And what would that be? (Mine works fine, just asking for those that choose to go this route.)
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I bought mine Saturday from a T-Mobile store without a contract and use my Simple Mobile SIM in it, which does not require you to SIM unlock the phone since its still tied to T-Mobiles infrastructure. $60/month for unlimited talk,text and internet.
You do have to set a custom APN in order to get proper service.
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Never heard of Simple Mobile until now. It seems like a great deal from looking at the website. So it's basically just like having T-Mobile service? What's the catch?
If you sign a contract with t-mobile and cancel, I know they make you either return the phone or pay the difference between what you bought it for and the full price of the phone. I'm not sure how long you have to be on the contract so they won't charge you that difference.
There is an even more plus plan that is $60/month with 500 min, m2m, unlimited text and web. Unless you need more minutes, that's a pretty good deal.
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There is an even more plus plan that is $60/month with 500 min, m2m, unlimited text and web. Unless you need more minutes, that's a pretty good deal.
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Not anymore, unfortunately. They axed the EM+ plans a couple weeks ago.
That sucks. I'm on EM+ $79 (1000 min, unlimited SMS/Data, 5gb cap).
Guess I better not change it any time soon.
I sold my Nexus One for $250. Bought the G2x outright. So $250 out of pocket.
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Never heard of Simple Mobile until now. It seems like a great deal from looking at the website. So it's basically just like having T-Mobile service? What's the catch?
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Simple Mobile sounds amazing on the surface. The catch is that they lie about their "unlimited" plans. After 1 GB they throttle you. I've heard this in multiple places, but a quick Google search brings up many results:
- http://www.phonenews.com/simple-mob...b-accounts-terminated-when-cap-reached-11989/
- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=909359
- etc
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There is an even more plus plan that is $60/month with 500 min, m2m, unlimited text and web. Unless you need more minutes, that's a pretty good deal.
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That is the plan i am using now.
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Not anymore, unfortunately. They axed the EM+ plans a couple weeks ago.
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Nah.
They just removed them from the website.
They did this to "reduce confusion". Iin reality, they just wanted to make people think that they're gone (and succeeded for the most part), so that people sign up for higher rate plans and 2 year contracts.
Check out the FlexPay page:
http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/flexpayplans.aspx
Even More Plus™ 500 Talk + Unlimited Text + Unlimited Web w/FlexPay®
$59.99
If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
Good Reasons..
The $49 phone will likely be SIM-locked. In addition to getting the ability to use the phone on any GSM network in the world, this would likely increase the resale price in ebay when you get your next phone.
You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
Plus, in California, you would have to pay sales tax on the full Sprint retail price of $449, reducing the differential by another $9 or so.
You can buy an Iphone 5s at the subsidized price, never open the box, and sell it on ebay. You will get far more than the differential between the $149 and the $349.
There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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History often repeats. Sprint has never sold a phone that was SIM unlocked for US use. They have in the past sold some phones that were unlocked for internatioal use, but morw recently they have been sold locked for all GSM networks.
I would bet a signficant sum of money that it will be locked.
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The $49 phone will likely be SIM-locked. In addition to getting the ability to use the phone on any GSM network in the world, this would likely increase the resale price in ebay when you get your next phone.
You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
Plus, in California, you would have to pay sales tax on the full Sprint retail price of $449, reducing the differential by another $9 or so.
You can buy an Iphone 5s at the subsidized price, never open the box, and sell it on ebay. You will get far more than the differential between the $149 and the $349.
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I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
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History often repeats. Sprint has never sold a phone that was SIM unlocked for US use. They have in the past sold some phones that were unlocked for internatioal use, but morw recently they have been sold locked for all GSM networks.
I would bet a significant sum of money that it will be locked.
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The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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Ting and Ringplus currently offer access to Sprint LTE and both say they will support the Nexus 5 (unless Sprint vetoes it).
Tomeygun said:
I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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Guys at the Sprint store have also said in recent days that you can't activiate a phone on Sprint unless it has a Sprint logo.
All I'm saying is Sprint appears to be a new ballgame under Softbank ownership. With the pressures from T-Mobile's new attitude and stodgy attitude of the big gorilla Verizon, don't assume anything about Sprint right now in my opinion.
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Guys at the Sprint store have also said in recent days that you can't activiate a phone on Sprint unless it has a Sprint logo.
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There are already multiple threads with people getting Sprint SIMs for the Play Store version as well as news reports from reputable sites stating that the Play Store version can be activated on Sprint.
The real question is, how many people who lose their Sprint subsidized Nexus 5 will then pay $449 to Sprint (for a likely locked phone) instead of $349 to Google?
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How did you get that price? Gamestop website says they will pay $378: http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5S+32GB+Sprint+-+A1453
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I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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[/COLOR]How did you get that price? Gamestop website says they will pay $378: http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5S+32GB+Sprint+-+A1453
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That link is the 5s, I bought the 5c:
http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5c+32GB+Sprint+-+A1456
Trade in is $448 (store credit), plus if you buy ANY used game(even one for a dollar).... they will give you 30% more for your trade in. 448 x 1.3 = $582.
Then you just use all that store credit for gift cards. I got all shell gas cards... I spend about 400/month in fuel, so its like pre-paying for my fuel, and using the funds I would have spent on fuel... for my nexus.
I even bought a few used 4s models off craigslist, met at sprint... then traded them in at gamestop for a profit same day.
Beware gamestop has google PLAY gift cards, but they cannot be used for hardware.
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You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
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Is that true? I thought activation charge was mandatory on every phone that hasn't ever been activated on Sprint's network
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Is that true? I thought activation charge was mandatory on every phone that hasn't ever been activated on Sprint's network
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This is not true. Only phones you buy from sprint or places representing sprint like best buy and radio shack have activation fees.
Only reason I'm staying with Sprint is due to an employee discount. My second choice would be T-Mobile. Sprint reception in my area isn't really THAT bad. I don't ever get dropped calls. But, the data is slow as balls though, so that's kind of a disappointment. For some reason too, I keep having faith that Sprint will implement LTE in my area (Sacramento) which I've been receiving little bits of. I'm not looking forward to activating my Nexus, though.. Seems like it'll be a pain.
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This is not true. Only phones you buy from sprint or places representing sprint like best buy and radio shack have activation fees.
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I certainly hope you are right (Some of the Sprint reps usually have no idea what they are talking about).
In the past, I've bought unactivated phones from craigslist, and have had to pay activation fees (but they likely bought it from Sprint in the first place). Hopefully, Google play purchases are exempt from this charge. I'll update this post once I receive and activate my phone later this week.
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If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
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I'll give you my two reasons:
1. Still on contract
2. Have Sprint Family Plan, so the economy does work out
Why stay on Sprint at all?
Sprint is the only carrier that has a tower in the perfect place to penetrate signal where I work (in basement level offices).
Tomeygun said:
I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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Perhaps you live in a state with no sales tax? I'm in California, so the $199 Iphone 5c is actually $271. However, the 30% bonus combined with buying some sort of stored value card is a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't drive a gasolin car, so the Shell cards won't work for me, I'll have to see what else they have in stock.
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Perhaps you live in a state with no sales tax? I'm in California, so the $199 Iphone 5c is actually $271. However, the 30% bonus combined with buying some sort of stored value card is a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't drive a gasolin car, so the Shell cards won't work for me, I'll have to see what else they have in stock.
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Yes and no, sales tax only on the amount spent - so like $12.
A friend of mine got all google play gift cards... and because you cant buy hardware with google play credit, he called and got a "one time" refund of his entire play balance in the form of a check. Boom, cash for his Nex5
Ps - got my nex5 yesterday. paranoid to even carry it without a case, still rocking the evo lte...
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I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
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Good thing you did that when you did. Gamestop is showing only $250 trade in value for a Sprint 32 GB 5C now, which would be only $300 with the 30% bonus.
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If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
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Because the guy getting his N5 for $49 is joining Sprint as a new customer and porting his/her number to Sprint as well otherwise he is paying $149 not $49 and a $36 one time activation fee as well. Also, this person can only be a new customer once and not everytime. We were all new customers to a carrier at one time and got to benefit from the subsidy model at some point.
I'm not one to play the song and dance of bed-hopping from carrier to carrier every few months or thereabouts. Longetivity sometimes counts, in my case, counts for a lot. Been with the same carrier going on 14 yrs now. Guess what i pay including taxes, ~$58, i get 500 anytime, unlimited N/W @ 7pm, unlimited M2M, unlimited SMS/MMS, unlimited data 3G/LTE, roaming etc.
A plan like this would typically run double, and for the MVNO, you get rationed on the data (which still meets most people's needs anyway).
When new stuff comes out, i can either choose to re-up, get the subsidy price and continue with my plan, or buy the phone outright and continue with my plan. I'm usually never in a hurry to have the cool stuff on day one. For example, rather than re-up for a Note 2 at whatever the 2yr extension price was when it was all the rage (it still is :fingers-crossed: ), i just bought it off CList for 300 mint in box. Either way, in my case, i'm just peachy.
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Good thing you did that when you did. Gamestop is showing only $250 trade in value for a Sprint 32 GB 5C now, which would be only $300 with the 30% bonus.
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yeah saw that. Stopped my little business cold (buying on craiglist, selling to gamestop). Seems like someone got caught paying too much... hehe
If I were to purchase a Nexus 5 on contract through Sprint, will is work on T-Mobile as well?
I am up for upgrades and want to upgrade to new device before switching over to TMobile. If this works, I wouldn't have to buy same phone on TMobile.
Thanks in advance.
Yes it'll work. It has all the band's necessary.
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OP - Just remember that if you want to take advantage of T-Mobile paying your ETF, you must trade-in your phone too. You cannot bring the phone over if you go this route.
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OP - Just remember that if you want to take advantage of T-Mobile paying your ETF, you must trade-in your phone too. You cannot bring the phone over if you go this route.
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I have older phones that I can trade in (couple of blackberries and android). I think it can be any working phone, just that I won't get any credit for it.
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Yes it'll work. It has all the band's necessary.
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I'm assuming it's the same thing with Moto X?
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I have older phones that I can trade in (couple of blackberries and android). I think it can be any working phone, just that I won't get any credit for it.
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You also have to purchase a T-Mobile phone. I guess you can always sell that one. I just wanted to make sure you know all the fine print before going through the trouble.
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You also have to purchase a T-Mobile phone. I guess you can always sell that one. I just wanted to make sure you know all the fine print before going through the trouble.
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Here's the plan, let me know if there's any flaw in it:
-upgrade 4 lines on Sprint (N5 @ $175 + $36 activation each, can only upgrade though Sprint site as it's employee discount perk): $844
-Trade-in older, working phones to T-Mobile: $0 credit
-Buy the $72 refurbished Android phones from T-Mo ($3/month x4)
-Switch sims and use N5
-Sell the current Sprint phones (3 GS3 and Lg Optimus G) to recoup cost of N5s
-T-Mobile will give Mastercard GC for ETF
Edit: Is the trade-in, paying the ETF only done in-stores?
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Here's the plan, let me know if there's any flaw in it:
-upgrade 4 lines on Sprint (N5 @ $175 + $36 activation each, can only upgrade though Sprint site as it's employee discount perk): $844
-Trade-in older, working phones to T-Mobile: $0 credit
-Buy the $72 refurbished Android phones from T-Mo ($3/month x4)
-Switch sims and use N5
-Sell the current Sprint phones (3 GS3 and Lg Optimus G) to recoup cost of N5s
-T-Mobile will give Mastercard GC for ETF
Edit: Is the trade-in, paying the ETF only done in-stores?
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Yeah that would probably work. If you are ok with paying $1400 worth of ETF fees up front and waiting 8 weeks to get your Giftcard.
Nexus 5's are zero down right now as well with a price of $396. You'd save some money your method though.
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Yeah that would probably work. If you are ok with paying $1400 worth of ETF fees up front and waiting 8 weeks to get your Giftcard.
Nexus 5's are zero down right now as well with a price of $396. You'd save some money your method though.
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Right now, I'm paying $214 on 4 lines. If I switch and with 15% discount, TMo will be $132. That's $82/month savings and I get new phones. Gotta convince rest of the family members though.
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Here's the plan, let me know if there's any flaw in it:
-upgrade 4 lines on Sprint (N5 @ $175 + $36 activation each, can only upgrade though Sprint site as it's employee discount perk): $844
-Trade-in older, working phones to T-Mobile: $0 credit
-Buy the $72 refurbished Android phones from T-Mo ($3/month x4)
-Switch sims and use N5
-Sell the current Sprint phones (3 GS3 and Lg Optimus G) to recoup cost of N5s
-T-Mobile will give Mastercard GC for ETF
Edit: Is the trade-in, paying the ETF only done in-stores?
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You have to buy phones in a retail store which usually means the web only refurbished models are not available.
I bought the Alcatel units for $99 in store and sold them on Craigslist the next day for $80 each. Not a huge loss but worth it to get away from Sprint.
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Would this prevent you from buying it if it's still locked just like the S5? (for Verizon and AT&T variants). Discuss
You know, I was just thinking the same today. I think since Samsung appears to not be using Qualcomm, they should be using the same Exynos processor on all variants. What that means is that there shouldn't be a huge issue whether you get the original or Tmobile version. More than likely AT&T version will have a locked bootloader. I would say wait until the phone gets released and see if it has it or not. Hopefully this locked boot loader wont make a difference from here on.
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I will never be fettered by Verizon or AT&T after spending my money on my own phone again. The only way they will get my money is through Straight Talk, and I'll buy my own device.
If you dont want locked bootloader then why not pay full price for 900$?
They'not forcing you buy locked version for only 200$.
Aircondition said:
If you dont want locked bootloader then why not pay full price for 900$?
They'not forcing you buy locked version for only 200$.
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The locked version isn't "only $200." That's just what you pay up front, but they collect the balance from you with every billing cycle for 24 months. In the end, no amortized phone is cheaper than a phone purchased outright.
And if you wait out the first couple months, the price always lowers to a sane level.
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The locked version isn't "only $200." That's just what you pay up front, but they collect the balance from you with every billing cycle for 24 months. In the end, no amortized phone is cheaper than a phone purchased outright.
And if you wait out the first couple months, the price always lowers to a sane level.
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That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
zathus said:
That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
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On AT&T right now, a Note 4 is $27.54 x 30 mo. = $826.20. Their 3GB mobile data plan is $65/mo. before taxes & fees, so probably ~$80 with. Over 2 years (and the remaining 6 mos. on the phone), that's $2,746.
Or I buy the phone outright for $630 unlocked and use Straight Talk (AT&T's equipment) for $45/mo. = $1,710, $1,036 cheaper. I can sell the phone when I get bored with it and still come out way ahead.
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On Verizon, $300 for the phone and $80/mo. 2 yr. contact before taxes & fees (probably ~$100/mo.), so about the same as AT&T for 1GB less data.
CafeKampuchia said:
On AT&T right now, a Note 4 is $27.54 x 30 mo. = $826.20. Their 3GB mobile data plan is $65/mo. before taxes & fees, so probably ~$80 with. Over 2 years (and the remaining 6 mos. on the phone), that's $2,746.
Or I buy the phone outright for $630 unlocked and use Straight Talk (AT&T's equipment) for $45/mo. = $1,710, $1,036 cheaper. I can sell the phone when I get bored with it and still come out way ahead.
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On Verizon, $300 for the phone and $80/mo. 2 yr. contact before taxes & fees (probably ~$100/mo.), so about the same as AT&T for 1GB less data.
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That's the edge program (for Vzw) and is in place so that you can upgrade every 6 months. Which would void the 24 moth discussion. On a regular contract. You pay the 200 or 250 subsidized price.
Here's my plan. I have 5 lines, each line is 40 per month. 2 lines are still unlimited, 3 are 6 gigs. My plan is 80 a month. My Wifes company gets us a 15% discount. (i think) all in all I spend 193 a month. 3 lines are off contract ( obviously 2 are unlimited lines) and the price is the same as the on contract lines. I subsidized a droid turbo on launch, 64 gig for 180 (got a few discounts) sold it last weekend for 490. (wasn't happy with it) so I pocket 300 for a line I was going to be paying for no matter what. I have no intentions of leaving Verizon, so why not use the program that gets me a massive discount and no extra cost? So now, I take that 500, subsidize a s6 when it comes out, pay..250ish.. And basically I got the s6 for free..
How is buying the phone outright a better deal then that? Obviously it's situational. But for my situation it works
zathus said:
That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
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On any carrier besides Verizon both of those are in fact the case.
But then again, if you use Verizon you probably don't care about whether or not you're being screwed.
MikeyMike01 said:
On any carrier besides Verizon both of those are in fact the case.
But then again, if you use Verizon you probably don't care about whether or not you're being screwed.
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Like I said. Its situational. Generalizing it is fun, but doesn't make it fact. If I switched to tmoble today, who's coverage doesn't even come close to VZ in my area, I would pay 140 more per month, and I have to pay full price for the phones...yeah, I'll pass! Lol...situational!
My plan on Verizon:
- 15GB data: $100/month - 22% discount = $78/month
- 5 lines (no contract and/or EDGE): $40/line - $25/line discount for month2month = $200 - $125 = $75
- Insurance on 3 lines = ~$30
Total: ~$200-205 after taxes
Edit: What I'm trying to say is.... those 3 lines you have with no contract, you get $25/line off your bill. But most Verizon reps don't know about it, and will keep saying "that's only if you're on the Verizon EDGE program", its called the month2month discount, for not having a contract, and if a rep doesn't know about it, tell them to go ask their manager where the discount is located in their system.
zathus said:
That's the edge program (for Vzw) and is in place so that you can upgrade every 6 months. Which would void the 24 moth discussion. On a regular contract. You pay the 200 or 250 subsidized price.
Here's my plan. I have 5 lines, each line is 40 per month. 2 lines are still unlimited, 3 are 6 gigs. My plan is 80 a month. My Wifes company gets us a 15% discount. (i think) all in all I spend 193 a month. 3 lines are off contract ( obviously 2 are unlimited lines) and the price is the same as the on contract lines. I subsidized a droid turbo on launch, 64 gig for 180 (got a few discounts) sold it last weekend for 490. (wasn't happy with it) so I pocket 300 for a line I was going to be paying for no matter what. I have no intentions of leaving Verizon, so why not use the program that gets me a massive discount and no extra cost? So now, I take that 500, subsidize a s6 when it comes out, pay..250ish.. And basically I got the s6 for free..
How is buying the phone outright a better deal then that? Obviously it's situational. But for my situation it works
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I don't root anymore, so locked bootloaders don't have any effect on my decisions. But I wish rooting was more like the "good ole' days (htc hero - galaxy s3 days, and windows mobile before that).
it wont prevent me, but its sad that my bootloader is locked when the other carriers arent (vzw)
vikramjatt11 said:
My plan on Verizon:
- 15GB data: $100/month - 22% discount = $78/month
- 5 lines (no contract and/or EDGE): $40/line - $25/line discount for month2month = $200 - $125 = $75
- Insurance on 3 lines = ~$30
Total: ~$200-205 after taxes
Edit: What I'm trying to say is.... those 3 lines you have with no contract, you get $25/line off your bill. But most Verizon reps don't know about it, and will keep saying "that's only if you're on the Verizon EDGE program", its called the month2month discount, for not having a contract, and if a rep doesn't know about it, tell them to go ask their manager where the discount is located in their system.
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I will look in to that. Thanks
Definately changing my mind.. Locked BL.. So boring.. Last four month i am look like iphone users always the same.. I used evo 4g, photon, s3 and s4 with sprint i enjoy this all phones.. Now i will buy tmobile s6 or m9 then be free.
Droid_Evo_8 said:
Would this prevent you from buying it if it's still locked just like the S5? (for Verizon and AT&T variants). Discuss
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Hell yeah! Had the S5 from att for 14 days and returned it. Became boring and went back to my s3
I'm done with locked bootloaders. If i can't root it, I don't want it. Bought the T-Mobile S6 to use on AT&T. Now all i have to do is get it sim unlocked.
greyhulk said:
I'm done with locked bootloaders. If i can't root it, I don't want it. Bought the T-Mobile S6 to use on AT&T. Now all i have to do is get it sim unlocked.
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How did you do that? Were you able to get it without getting a t mobile account.