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Bought phone on launch..

and paid 200 bucks.. think there is any way i can get att to give me a better deal since i can get it for free at walmart???

From what I read, the only way you can get it for free is if you sign up for an AT&T account that is way higher than standard.
I could be wrong though.

I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks

carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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That's what I paid at BB in SoCal

Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?

That's how Apple does it too. They tax the highest price.

i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...

captivated said:
Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
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Yes i was told it varies in different states. I was told tht if i wanted to buy an iphone the cost wudve been ($199 + $55 tax) for a 16GB phone.

Lucke said:
i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
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The sales rep who processed my phone told me tht many times ppl aren't charged the tax while buying the phone but it reflects in the first bill and then they hav customers coming in and demanding explanations from them.
So better watch out for this in the first bill

carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.

abezapata said:
Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
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I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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I just ordered it from Walmart as an upgrade on my plan.
They told me it has to be the primary phone if it's a family plan. The secondary lines aren't eligible for the free price. I had the old 550 minutes plan, which I had to change up to 700 minutes. After my discount thru work, it was $8 more than I pay now. Other than that, they told me I just have to maintain that plan for 6 months to avoid charged from them, and I'll get the phone for free.
I guess it could come back from AT&T as a "NO" when they check with them, but I checked 6 ways from Sunday with them and they said I was eligible for any upgrade.

Im in CA too, the tax is just crazy
but one way around it is to get your phone off amazon wireless, which doesnt have tax for CA (yet)
technically your supposed to report that in your taxes but no one does

carporsche said:
I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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Yes you are right!!

I just ordered mine for $125 + $10tax . My contract expired abt an year ago and I never renewed it. When I called them regarding moving to T-Mobile (for Vibrant) they offered me $75 off + 100 extra minutes every month(I currently have 450 min). I am damn excited to get my first Androiiiiiid

The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart

floppy__ said:
The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
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exactly what i did.. the guy at the att store told me to call and complain about he 30 restocking fee and they'll credit my account.. free phone will be here thursday!

If you buy it through Amazon wireless, you pay no tax in CA.

You could try bringing in a printout of the deal but as its been pointed out there are a lot of stipulations to get the fee price and you are agreeing that if you change your account they can charge you thee full retail price of the phone.
Ps I work for att
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veteran's discount

Got my MT4G yesterday and then spent 2 hours on the phone with TMO trying to find out why my bill wasn't what was promised. We got that straightened out (by the way I got the 3000 min, unlimited text, 200 mb data family plan and the data costs $10 per phone, not the $20 they tried to stick me with).
There is an 18% veteran's discount if you ask for it and give them the numbers off your DD-214
Originally, last Sunday, they offered me a 15% law enforcement discount and said my wife could get the same discount as a teacher. Then when I had them on the phone straightening out the bill, I found out they had lied to me (again) and that discount was only good for 2 other counties in NM (two different people at Migration looked it up and informed me of the discount on Sunday)... so I didn't quality anymore. I was going to drop TMO like a hot potato when I asked for a supervisor and he helped me find something I could qualify for. Also a PTA registered member can get a discount! Go figure.

No military/govt/other discounts on the Even More+ (no contract) plans, though. I gave up my discount to move to one but still pay less each month.

Genocaust said:
No military/govt/other discounts on the Even More+ (no contract) plans, though. I gave up my discount to move to one but still pay less each month.
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The no contract plans are a thing of the past for new customers. Look at their website... it's gone! And the contract plans are just as cheap (3000 minutes, unlimited text, 200 mb data). No contract price used to be $139.99 (unlimited data because there was no 200 mb data) and the contract price now is the same (with 200 mb data or $10 more for unlimited data) and the discount on the phones makes the contract price a LOT cheaper than going no-contract.

Wish I knew about the DD214 discount earlier. Do you think they would do it going forward on existing plans and services?

They did it for me a few years back on an existing contract, so it shouldn't be a problem. Just give them a call.

Just got off the phone with TMo. The 18% veterans discount is there, but they want to extend all lines on my account for two years (with the $200 cancellation fee one each line).
Since I may be dropping one line soon, I did not accept it. Do not like the way they want to do this at all.
If you just have one line with a promo for the phone with a two year commitment already - no problem,

gaww said:
Wish I knew about the DD214 discount earlier. Do you think they would do it going forward on existing plans and services?
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Yes, they will do military/govt at any time.
@lonlawrence -- Did not know they ditched the no contract plans; glad I got mine! It is like $120/mo for 1500min unlimited txt across all 5 lines (we only use like 800min ever) and unlim data on 2 lines. So...I'm happy with it! It also only costs me $5/mo per add a line past the first 2, so I have my inlaws on my account. They pay me $180/yr and get full phone and text service! Hard to beat helping family for a price that cheap!

lonlawrence said:
The no contract plans are a thing of the past for new customers. Look at their website... it's gone! And the contract plans are just as cheap (3000 minutes, unlimited text, 200 mb data). No contract price used to be $139.99 (unlimited data because there was no 200 mb data) and the contract price now is the same (with 200 mb data or $10 more for unlimited data) and the discount on the phones makes the contract price a LOT cheaper than going no-contract.
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They don't do them online but they will over the phone or in store. Check the tmonews.com article
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Genocaust said:
No military/govt/other discounts on the Even More+ (no contract) plans, though. I gave up my discount to move to one but still pay less each month.
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I'm on the Even More + and still get my Freelancers discount. It doesn't apply to the phone plan but all the add ons. ie: I went with the Talk + text, and added 2 webs at $20/ea (instead of T + T + W for $40 for both) so I could get the discount off each web feature. It helps saving ~$3 off of web, making it like $17

Genocaust said:
Yes, they will do military/govt at any time.
@lonlawrence -- Did not know they ditched the no contract plans; glad I got mine! It is like $120/mo for 1500min unlimited txt across all 5 lines (we only use like 800min ever) and unlim data on 2 lines. So...I'm happy with it! It also only costs me $5/mo per add a line past the first 2, so I have my inlaws on my account. They pay me $180/yr and get full phone and text service! Hard to beat helping family for a price that cheap!
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@Genocaust, yes, I mentioned that in an earlier post about doing away with the no-contract plans. And "for now" you can talk one of the sales reps into selling you a no-contract price on the phone, but they told me that was going to go away. However, why would you want one? It's the same price as a contract plan with the new pricing, but you get the phones a lot cheaper with a contract. Just like ATT and Sprint, there's now no advantage to buying the phones outright unless you are willing to pay $500 a phone just to get out of a contract. In that case, it's cheaper to pay $150 for the phone with a contract and pay $200 to break the contract.

lonlawrence said:
@Genocaust, yes, I mentioned that in an earlier post about doing away with the no-contract plans. And "for now" you can talk one of the sales reps into selling you a no-contract price on the phone, but they told me that was going to go away. However, why would you want one? It's the same price as a contract plan with the new pricing, but you get the phones a lot cheaper with a contract. Just like ATT and Sprint, there's now no advantage to buying the phones outright unless you are willing to pay $500 a phone just to get out of a contract. In that case, it's cheaper to pay $150 for the phone with a contract and pay $200 to break the contract.
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With the plans I can see online it's still cheaper than a contract plan at this point. Show me 1500min + text + 2 unlim web for < $120 and $5/mo add a lines.

Just got off the phone with migrations, and had my discount changed from my work corp disc 12-13% to the veteran 18%disc. I wish I had known about it sooner, I've been with tmobile for like 6 or 7 years. I have been a vet for almost 10 years and only been getting my corp disc for the last 3 years. I wish they had mentioned sooner. Thanks for the heads up. There was an article about the no contract plans on tmonews and tmobile said that stores and tele-sales would continue to carry plans.

Genocaust said:
With the plans I can see online it's still cheaper than a contract plan at this point. Show me 1500min + text + 2 unlim web for < $120 and $5/mo add a lines.
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That's the same price with the contract, but it's 200 mb now. They lowered the data rate so if you don't need more than 200mb a month per phone, you can buy the contract at the same price as the no contract unlimited... then you save $300 per phone and just do the math... it's cheaper to go with the contract, plus you only get your discounts like veterans 18% per month if you take the contract. Then you can pay off the $200 per line to cancel early if you want to, and you still make money. Reality, MOST people can't begin to use 200 mb of data a month... maybe not you... but most people. Also it's the same price ($5 per line) to add a line with the contract and only $10 per phone for data for the 3rd line. Keep trying... you haven't convinced me no-contract is cheaper! LOL

I'm paying $140/mo no contract with unlimited everything. Same deal with contract is $30 more a month. 30x24= $720; my phone was $450 outright, still saving money no contract.

lonlawrence said:
The no contract plans are a thing of the past for new customers. Look at their website... it's gone! And the contract plans are just as cheap (3000 minutes, unlimited text, 200 mb data). No contract price used to be $139.99 (unlimited data because there was no 200 mb data) and the contract price now is the same (with 200 mb data or $10 more for unlimited data) and the discount on the phones makes the contract price a LOT cheaper than going no-contract.
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They didn't ditch it, they only took it off there site. If you want the no contact plans then you have to call and ask for it. Reason being is that they wanted their site to be "user friendly"
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mlockman said:
I'm paying $140/mo no contract with unlimited everything. Same deal with contract is $30 more a month. 30x24= $720; my phone was $450 outright, still saving money no contract.
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You guys are missing the point. If you don't need unlimited data, you can get the same rate with a contract as without a contract. Most people could never use over 200 mb a month of data, so why pay $460 for your phone? With a contract and 200 mb of data, you get the same rate, but pay $150 for the MT4G. If you bought your phone outright and are without a contract, yes, you can get unlimited data for the same price, but look what you paid for your phone! It's a no-brainer to go with a contract. If you don't want a contract, cancel and pay the $200 early cancellation fee and you still saved $150 on the price of your phone! Geez, I don't understand why you guys don't understand that! Unlimited everything is $140 no contract. Same price as unlimited talk, text and 200 mb of data with a contract... but you save $300 per phone and give up unlimited data. It's really a simple choice if you don't need unlimited data.

Who said I didn't need the unlimited data? That is why it's cheaper for me to go the route I did.

T-Mobile vs Amazon vs Wirefly for Upgrades (Tried all 3)

T-Mobile.com:
+ Can keep your plan
- $325 ridiculous up-front cost ($250 + $50 tax + $18 Upgrade Fee + $6 Shipping) (See attached screenshots)
- $50 Mail-In Rebate hassle
- $50 SENSATION50 promo code box doesn't appear for upgrades, wtf??
Amazon:
+ $179.99, No Tax
+ Free 2-Day Shipping
- $35 Activation Fee
- Can't keep your current plan at all, you MUST choose from the new plans
Wirefly:
+ $179.99, No Tax
+ Free FedEx Shipping
- $18 Activation Fee
? There is a "Keep My Plan" option available but what plan options does it keep if forced to choose a new data plan anyway??
Is there a less expensive way to go about it?
And what the heck is this "Activation Fee" if my account is already active, and why is it more expensive on Amazon?
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The activation fee is a joke. T-Mobile has to do zero work to get the phone to work on their network. All we need to do is move a sim from one phone into the other. I wonder if they'll waive the fee if you call t-mo?

I got mine from letstalk for $149.99 with free overnight shipping.
But I am a new customer.

brian85 said:
I got mine from letstalk for $149.99 with free overnight shipping.
But I am a new customer.
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$249 for existing customers

Wow that sucks.
Let'stalk even paid for the california taxes (which would be $50 since smartphones are taxed the full price of the phone in california), so I only paid a total of $149. Seemed like an awesome deal to me.

You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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t0ny0 said:
You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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So let's say you bought a HTC Sensation at full retail price, you can return it within 90days no charge?
I wonder if you accidently bricked your phone.. I wonder if they will let you return/exchange it within 90days.

t0ny0 said:
You cant go wrong with costco... 199 after rebate, you keep your plan and you can exchange the phone for a new one in the next 90 days.
Got my g2x and after me being very disappointed with it - swaped for the sensation.
Plus, they will match the price if it ever goes down (got my g2x for 200 and got 100 back when they started offering the phone for 99)
So id say -costco has the best deals on cell phones. Ever. And to think that I used to get phones from amazon before....
Good luck in your search!
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Unfortunately, they force you into the 5 GB plan no matter what, even if you keep your plan:
And they do charge tax too
And they charge the $18 upgrade fee too (see bottom of picture). They just don't add it to the final price.
So it ends up being almost as much as T-Mobile for a total of $315 (free shipping though at least)

Wait, the SENSATION50 promo code doesn't work for upgrades? What the hell?
The $50 “SENSATION50” discount code is valid for new customers, new 2-yr agreements, or for add a line. http://goo.gl/3Jxa1 (Web Only Offer)
http://twitter.com/TMobile/status/81023766955687937
Isn't a new two year agreement an upgrade?

aNYthing24 said:
Wait, the SENSATION50 promo code doesn't work for upgrades? What the hell?
The $50 “SENSATION50” discount code is valid for new customers, new 2-yr agreements, or for add a line. http://goo.gl/3Jxa1 (Web Only Offer)
http://twitter.com/TMobile/status/81023766955687937
Isn't a new two year agreement an upgrade?
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The box to put the promo code in just doesn't appear.
It's simply just not there.
So maybe the promo works for upgrades, but you can't actually enter it.
Perhaps someone at T-Mobile forgot about that box?

Walmart! $148.88 + 18 upgrade fee + tax. Keep your plan, no MIR.
Good luck.

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Walmart! $148.88 + 18 upgrade fee + tax. Keep your plan, no MIR.
Good luck.
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But you mean for new customers only though, right?

Paul22000 said:
Unfortunately, they force you into the 5 GB plan no matter what, even if you keep your plan:
And they do charge tax too
And they charge the $18 upgrade fee too (see bottom of picture). They just don't add it to the final price.
So it ends up being almost as much as T-Mobile for a total of $315 (free shipping though at least)
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Ummm... I kept my unlimited Data plan... I just called in to make sure, and Yes - my unlimited Data is still active!
Try your local Costco, its different when you deal with a live person. They tried to sell me the 5GB, but they couldnt. I said that that would be the day that i move to ATT, cause thats the only thing keeping me with tmobile, since their signal at my house is just... missing in action
So try the local store, they can work with you better than the website.

t0ny0 said:
Ummm... I kept my unlimited Data plan... I just called in to make sure, and Yes - my unlimited Data is still active!
Try your local Costco, its different when you deal with a live person. They tried to sell me the 5GB, but they couldnt. I said that that would be the day that i move to ATT, cause thats the only thing keeping me with tmobile, since their signal at my house is just... missing in action
So try the local store, they can work with you better than the website.
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Thanks. Did they charge you tax?

no the walmart deal applies to upgrades as well
i got it for 159 total last week

Alpha Class said:
no the walmart deal applies to upgrades as well
i got it for 159 total last week
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I think the 149 upgrade price expired yesterday.

I asked T-Mobile about the promotion and the rep didn't seem to have a clue about it...
~Tracy W: I am not finding anything in regards to a promotion code, what I would recommend is calling our sales department at 1-800-672-5390

I asked a rep from Amazon and they said that you can keep your $10 data plan and you don't actually need the $30 one.. you can switch it at any time.
Also, I think you clicked 'new plan' instead of existing plan, I get a different checkout page.. see attachment

Hey Paul you should try checking craigslist. I got mine brand new for $365 yesterday. Might be worth a shot instead of paying up to 325 and having to use your upgrade.

Nope, got mine using my full upgrade today for 148.88 + tax at walmart. but the deal only works I'm store though I think.
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T-Mobile new plans

New plans coming to T-Mobile. Check it out
http://m.cnet.com/Article.rbml?nid=20080486&cid=null&bcid=&bid=-94
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are we gonna be able to switch to this plan if we are existing customers? I just got my phone 2 months ago and im paying 79.99

corrupt05 said:
are we gonna be able to switch to this plan if we are existing customers? I just got my phone 2 months ago and im paying 79.99
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You can switch plans whenever you want, the only thing is you'll get a new 2 yr. Contract each time.
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corrupt05 said:
are we gonna be able to switch to this plan if we are existing customers? I just got my phone 2 months ago and im paying 79.99
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The new price plans are equivalent to the old "even more plus" plan. Except with a 2yr contract now. Existing customers that had service for @ least 90 days can switch to these plans..the big difference is you lose out your discounted upgrade when eligible..phones are purchased at full retail price with the option to finance the phone by adding $10-$15 a month on your bill..same goes for new activations.
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You can switch plans whenever you want, the only thing is you'll get a new 2 yr. Contract each time.
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You can change plans anytime you want, and it won't affect your 2 year contract or upgrade eligibility. You do need to keep a data plan if you are on contract with a smart phone, otherwise the lowest cost plan available will hold up your end of a contract.

I know where I am going on monday. I just got my phone in the middle of June so there should not be an issue with me getting this plan.
Actually, this is my plan, just 20 bucks cheaper now.

Yeh, thanks for posting this. I just signed up on the 13th of June, and this new plan offers me the same that I have now for $20 less. Unlimited talk, text, and data, throttled after 2GB/month. I will be looking for customer service next week.

I could switch, but my 5GB before throttle would go down to 2GB, not that it matters now because I'm stuck on 2G, but if I move... I might miss that extra 3GB, but is it worth $20 more?
T-Mobile is set to announce Wednesday that it plans to cut the price of its smartphone plans. Most significantly, its mid-tier plan--which includes unlimited phone calls, text messages, and data--drops by $20 to $59.99 a month. In comparison, Sprint's comparable plan--which includes unlimited data, text, and calls to other cell phones--costs $69.99 a month.
For heavier data users, T-Mobile offers a $74.99 plan with an allotment of 5 gigabytes of data before throttling, which is $15 less than before. It also offers a lower-end, data-less plan for $49.99 with unlimited phone calls and text messages. That plan was previously $65. If you choose to pay for the phone through monthly installments, you can sign up for a 200-megabyte data option for $5 a month. Traditional contract customers can get the same option for $10 a month. The plans will be available on July 24.
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Ah let's see. I'm paying $80 now for 1500 minutes, unlimited texts, 5 GB of data
With the new plan:
unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, 2GB data for $60
unlimited minutes, unlimited texts, 5GB data for $75
Wow, even switching to the new plan at 5GB is cheaper! I might as well switch to 2GB until my city gets 3G then up to 5GB later...
Is there any catch to these new plans?

so basically if we bought our phones on the $79.99 deal and did not have to pay full price, we will have to pay for the phone in full but will get $20 less per month in monthly bill?

jblah said:
so basically if we bought our phones on the $79.99 deal and did not have to pay full price, we will have to pay for the phone in full but will get $20 less per month in monthly bill?
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U will not have to pay for your current phone at full price if u change to the new plan, There just won't be any discount The next time u want to upgrade your phone
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No problem, I signed up about a month ago, is this going to work in family plans?
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i'm hoping that i am allowed to switch this Monday. i got my phone in late May so it hasn't been a full 2 months yet.

I am on the 5gig plan but check it, prepaid. 70 bucks. Have been on this plan since i bought my phone used online back in june. prepaid plans are comin up in the world. no more pay by the minute. I get unlimited everything with 5gig 4g cap. beautiful. been on tmo prepaid for about 3 years now starting way back with flexpay. its worked out great for me
so in all actuallity you can go and just buy a prepaid sim card and hop on the plan right now if you wanted to.

deadeye0908 said:
U will not have to pay for your current phone at full price if u change to the new plan, There just won't be any discount The next time u want to upgrade your phone
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This is not correct. I just finished dealing with the retentions department on the phone (and this can be confirmed if you go online and try to change your plan to the Value Unlimited Plan). If you change to the Value plan, you are charged $200 migration fee on your next bill, which accounts for the difference in price for the phone.
I argued for 15 minutes that I HAD a brand new phone, but that since it was so problematic, the retentions department rep sent me a replacement phone...never said it was a refurbished model. And that when I went to update it the other day, it refused to update...so I called LG and it was confirmed that my DWP model is a factory refurbished model. I argued that I should not have to pay $200 for the difference in price for a brand new phone, since I have a refurb. She came back after several minutes and offered to put me on the new value plan starting next month if I meet them halfway and agree to pay $100 instead of the $200. I was tired of arguing and went ahead and agreed. I figured $20 less per month for 24 months is worth a lot more than $100 today. She was telling me that the biggest problem with them agreeing to move me over for free was that I'm such a new customer...I haven't built up any "tenure". So if you have been with T-mobile for much longer, I suppose it's possible for you to argue your way to a free migration.
Anyway, I'm satisfied with the deal.

So, being I signed up for a new plan on June 21st, I will have to pay 200 dollars to switch from paying 80 a month for unlimited talk, text, and 2GB data to the 60 plan that is the exact same thing, just 20 bucks less?
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aowendoff said:
So, being I signed up for a new plan on June 21st, I will have to pay 200 dollars to switch from paying 80 a month for unlimited talk, text, and 2GB data to the 60 plan that is the exact same thing, just 20 bucks less?
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Yes, I just signed up June 13th for the same plan you did. But since I took the discounted price for the phone and signed the 2 year contract, when I wanted to switch to this cheaper version of the same plan today, they asked me for the difference of the cost of the phone...$200. I feel fortunate to have gotten the deal for $100 instead. It's still a great savings overall.

I agree. I will still do it, that is for sure.
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Well called T-mobile about this plan and this is what they told me i could do. Since im a new customer i can do either these options:
Pay 59.99 Unlimited everything, BUT charged extra 5-15 dollars(depending on phone) and pay full price of phone in monthly installments over 20 month period.
Buy a phone off ebay, CL, or Pay full price in store of any phone and then i just get charged just 59.99
Or sign up for a "Regular contract" and pay 79.99 and buy phone of choice(discounted 2yr agreement price) And they run credit check to see if their is a deposit.
So many choices idk which one i should do? lol

Ok. I see uncertainty so I will try to address them all in this post. The new plans are great.. No matter how you look at them you are always going to come out in the positive in the long run. Unlimited Talk, Text, and Unlimited web with 2 GB of high speed data is $59.99. You will have to sign a new 2 Year contract. If you are on the Even More Plus plan you CANNOT come over onto the new plan (I know a loop hole). If you currently are on T-mobile and are in contract you will have to pay a migration fee that ranges from $200-0 depending on your current tenure. 18+ months will not have to pay a migration fee. On the new plans you must purchase your phone at the full retail but many will have EIP (Equipment Installment Plan) which will allow them to break the payments over a period of 21 months (If done at the store first payment will be at the store so that will make it 20 months).
For a family plan for 2 Lines Unlimited Talk, Text, and 2 GB of high speed web it will cost 99.99!!! That is super cheap. The same applies to a family plan as an individual. On the Even more plans it used to cost $179.99 ($80 savings) and compared to the classic plans $139.99, you save $40. Think about it..
Compared to the classic plan it is cheaper to be on the value plan on the long run. If you purchased 2 sensations (I chose this because its the most expensive phone I have) that makes is $550 x 2 = $1,100. If you take $40 savings x 24 months = $960 in rate plan. On the classic plan you still have to purchase the phones at $200 x 2 = $400. So for the value plan over 2 years take 99.99 x 24 (months) + $1,100 for phones = $3,500. While the classic plan will cost you 139.99 x 24 (months) + $400 (for the phone with MIR applied) = $3,760.
For 5 Lines Unlimited Talk Text and web 2 GB high speed on the value plan cost $205. Compared to the classic it will cost $290. 5 sensation on the value plan will cost $2750 while on the Classic it will cost $1000.
Value plan: $205 x 24 + $2750 = $7670.
Classic plan: $290 x 24 + $1000 = $7960.

903tex said:
Well called T-mobile about this plan and this is what they told me i could do. Since im a new customer i can do either these options:
Pay 59.99 Unlimited everything, BUT charged extra 5-15 dollars(depending on phone) and pay full price of phone in monthly installments over 20 month period.
Buy a phone off ebay, CL, or Pay full price in store of any phone and then i just get charged just 59.99
Or sign up for a "Regular contract" and pay 79.99 and buy phone of choice(discounted 2yr agreement price) And they run credit check to see if their is a deposit.
So many choices idk which one i should do? lol
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i don't not see this on their website? also do you know if you already have a plan with them for 2 months, do you still have to pay the full price for the phone? for me they did a price match.

Questions for T-Mobile users.

Alright, so currently I have an S3 with T-Mobile and I'm paying around $100 for just my line that includes 500mins, unlimited data and text.
I rarely break the 150min mark each month so I would definitely like to change my plan to something that offers less minutes. Makes no sense on paying for something I don't use, right.
What would be my best option right now? Go on a prepaid plan and buy the Nexus 5 from the playstore? Is there a hassle from switching to a normal plan to a prepaid plan with T-Mobile?
I would be more than happy paying less to get 200mins, unlimited text, and data. 2.5 or 5gb before throttling is fine with me.
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The T-Mobile $30 plan.. 100 minutes, unlimited texts, 5GB of 4G LTE.
Just add like $50 every month and you'll have around , what.. 275-300 minutes you can use.
But if you're still on contract with T-Mobile, the ETF is $200.
And yes, you can buy the phone from the Play Store.

Wow that's crazy expensive. My T-Mobile plan is $120/month for 3 lines, unlimited everything. Data IS throttled after 500mb though. Not an issue for me since I'm always on wifi. I can bump it to unlimited for an extra $20

IXChicharitoXI said:
Alright, so currently I have an S3 with T-Mobile and I'm paying around $100 for just my line that includes 500mins, unlimited data and text.
I rarely break the 150min mark each month so I would definitely like to change my plan to something that offers less minutes. Makes no sense on paying for something I don't use, right.
What would be my best option right now? Go on a prepaid plan and buy the Nexus 5 from the playstore? Is there a hassle from switching to a normal plan to a prepaid plan with T-Mobile?
I would be more than happy paying less to get 200mins, unlimited text, and data. 2.5 or 5gb before throttling is fine with me.
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Not sure how you're paying so much for the classic 500min plan, maybe you got extra services along with it? Should only be $85/w tax. And if you said you don't use as much minutes then go with the prepaid $30/mo like that person said. Or you can go with straight talk for $45/mo unlimited talk text and web (might throttle 2.5gb). I'm not sure if they are still selling GSM sim cards because they kept being pulled off the shelves.
Synyster06Gates said:
Wow that's crazy expensive. My T-Mobile plan is $120/month for 3 lines, unlimited everything. Data IS throttled after 500mb though. Not an issue for me since I'm always on wifi. I can bump it to unlimited for an extra $20
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Well you're on the new simple/value plans that T-mobile has. 3 lines should cost you $90 ($50 first line $30 second $10 add a line) for unlimited talk text and unlimited web throttled at 500mb. You might be over paying as well unless you have the 2.5gb data plan or the jump plan services.

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Well you're on the new simple/value plans that T-mobile has. 3 lines should cost you $90 ($50 first line $30 second $10 add a line) for unlimited talk text and unlimited web throttled at 500mb. You might be over paying as well unless you have the 2.5gb data plan or the jump plan services.
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Unfortunately I am over paying by $30. I didn't get the simple value plan. I switched from AT&T right before they ended the classic unlimited contracts. What really sucks is the T-Mobile service went to **** in my area a few days after my "2 week trial period" (that was really maybe a week after getting the phones shipped and activated) and they refuse to help me out in any way. It's a story for another time, but I'm absolutely furious at T-Mobile.

I got the Ptel Paygo plan (on T-Mobile network), I don't really need data (on wifi almost everywhere, with T-Mobile 4G hotspot at $17.50/mo for 1.75gb). 5 cents per minute. Bought a $100 card with coupon for $78, so 2000 minutes for a year. Haven't got my sim yet, will run speed test once I get it.

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Not sure how you're paying so much for the classic 500min plan, maybe you got extra services along with it? Should only be $85/w tax. And if you said you don't use as much minutes then go with the prepaid $30/mo like that person said. Or you can go with straight talk for $45/mo unlimited talk text and web (might throttle 2.5gb). I'm not sure if they are still selling GSM sim cards because they kept being pulled off the shelves.
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Yeah, I think I'm being charged $8 or $10 for insurance on the phone.
How exactly do pre paid plans work? I assume the bill won't arrive to my house anymore? Do I have to to to the T-Mobile store before the month ends to pay for the following month before it gets disconnected?
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Also if I were to sign up for the pre paid plan. Could I bring the phone to a T-Mobile store and could they activate the new sim at the store or do I have to do it myself online?
Thank you for the responses everyone, i really appreciate it.
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Synyster06Gates said:
Unfortunately I am over paying by $30. I didn't get the simple value plan. I switched from AT&T right before they ended the classic unlimited contracts. What really sucks is the T-Mobile service went to **** in my area a few days after my "2 week trial period" (that was really maybe a week after getting the phones shipped and activated) and they refuse to help me out in any way. It's a story for another time, but I'm absolutely furious at T-Mobile.
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That's unfortunate, sorry to hear. So you're on a 2-year contract then I suppose? Did you get basic phones or smart phones when you signed up? If anything you can always try to call customer service (Dial 611) and ask to be switched to the new simple choice plan but they might charge you a $200 migration fee per line. In that situation, you can probably argue that your service has not been working well ever since you got it and hopefully they'll work something out.
IXChicharitoXI said:
Yeah, I think I'm being charged $8 or $10 for insurance on the phone.
How exactly do pre paid plans work? I assume the bill won't arrive to my house anymore? Do I have to to to the T-Mobile store before the month ends to pay for the following month before it gets disconnected?
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The only service that does that still bills to your house is T-Mobile Family Mobile (only in walmart) $39.88/mo unlimited talk text unlimited web 2.5 throttle (3G, some say 4G). That service is no contract and you can set auto pay with your debit/credit card or pay at any walmart location.
Other T-mobile pre-paid services is the "monthly 4G" which you will need to purchase a pre-paid card at any convenience store and refill your service at the end of each month. Or you can pay the balance of the bill online through T-Mobile prepaid website. If you don't pay your remaining balance by the end of the month it will get shut off and I believe T-Mobile will hold for 7-14 days before they release the number.
I can't give you a suggestion on which service you should use because I use both Verizon and T-Mobile services (note 2 and nexus 5) on a dealer line. Believe it or not, T-Mobile pulls off 21mb vs verizon 12mb in my home. If anything i'd start with the $30 pre-paid plan and test out the service to see whether or not it works in your area. If you feel that you get a lot of drop calls, you can try the actual T-Mobile service (Simple choice plan) because it's running on a primary network. Don't want to get too technical on why contracts vs pre-paid services are good or bad.
Replying to your second question:
You can purchase a Sim starter kit on the actual T-mobile site and you can activate it yourself, very easy. Follow the steps and select the plan that you desire.
t-mobile (dot) com/shop/plans/activatecodes (dot )aspx

Deekayy said:
That's unfortunate, sorry to hear. So you're on a 2-year contract then I suppose? Did you get basic phones or smart phones when you signed up? If anything you can always try to call customer service (Dial 611) and ask to be switched to the new simple choice plan but they might charge you a $200 migration fee per line. In that situation, you can probably argue that your service has not been working well ever since you got it and hopefully they'll work something out.
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I will attempt to do this over the weekend. I am on a 2 year contract. When we signed up, I got a Galaxy S3, an LG F3, and an LG F6.
Since we started, none of the phones will reliably get phone calls or text messages. More often than not when people try to call us (even the T-Mobile reps calling me back) the phone will ring on their end, but I never get a ring or even missed call notification. A voice-mail will randomly pop up later in the day. Text messages will stop for hours on end then all of a sudden 10 or so will come to my phone at once. MMS won't reliably send or download. It's been a FRUSTRATING experience to say the least.