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Well I have read numerous sources saying it will be 199.99 with 2 Year Contract.. Now I am seeing receipts for 149.99 with contract or 299.99 without contract. I truly want this phone and the 50$ wont stop me, but hey it is 50$ more dollars for apps and accessories. Does anyone know if they price was changed or if I should bring in a picture of the receipts to get a 50$ off or will I just end up paying 200$?

AT&T and Samsung posted on their twitter that it is $199 with a contract, and $350 without a contract.
I'm hoping it is $350, cause that's how much money i got for it! haha.

Yah, but how are people getting it for 300 or 150?

I have no idea. I haven't seen any receipts and such.

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/576/receiptn.jpg
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http://imgur.com/EYdsN.jpg

Now I'm jealous. I hope it is $300 but i'll settle for $350!

haha yah I mean, paying an extra 50 really won't stop me. But hey, thats 50$'s I can use on accessories etc

I guarantee that it's 349.99 without a contract and 199.99 with a 2 year contract.
The people that are getting 50 or 100 dollars off the prices of the phone is because of the AT&T upgrade advantage.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/upgrade-advantage.jsp
If the primary line on your account is over $100 then that line will be upgrade eligible every year.

I believe they have three ways of paying.
1. upgrade elligable its $199 with a 2 year contract and USE your elligability.
2. Not elligable for an upgrade its $350. with a 2 year extension on your contract but not using your future upgrade.
3. No contract $499.
I just called and thats what two local stores told me.

I was just told 500 off contract from an AT&T store.

chakra said:
I believe they have three ways of paying.
1. upgrade elligable its $199 with a 2 year contract and USE your elligability.
2. Not elligable for an upgrade its $350. with a 2 year extension on your contract but not using your future upgrade.
3. No contract $499.
I just called and thats what two local stores told me.
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Woa, that'd be completely new for att. I've never seen any signs or ads anywhere for previous phones that describe option 2, always just 1 or 3 (renew your contract or just no contract pricing - no inbetween). If I'm wrong, I apologise, but I haven't heard of that before.

I called a store from one of the recepits that people have posted, and they told me that there was no way some of the pricing, nor sales have happened. I was told $500 dollars from a store that was $300.
I was also told $199 from a store that sold one for $149 and that I was reading the receipt wrong and instead of the "samsung i897" like the receipt says, it was really a 3gs 32 gb phone. Basically, I was told that I am an idiot and it wasn't really that price.
what the hell is going on?

Now I'm just more mad than anxious.

tysj said:
Now I'm just more mad than anxious.
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I agree. This whole pricing war is becoming insane, not to mention differen't prices for different people is not right.

AllTheWay said:
I guarantee that it's 349.99 without a contract and 199.99 with a 2 year contract.
The people that are getting 50 or 100 dollars off the prices of the phone is because of the AT&T upgrade advantage.
http://www.wireless.att.com/learn/why/upgrade-advantage.jsp
If the primary line on your account is over $100 then that line will be upgrade eligible every year.
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That makes a lot more sense. So I think that actually clears up everything. Stores don't sell them at different prices, you may just be eligible for an additional discount. But I will still call several places when it is out to try to pick it up for 150$

So since my phone line is $150 a month, but i just upgraded last month, I am able to get this phone for $350 or $500?

wait... I want to get this phone but no data plan... as an att customer already which pricing would fit me

madjsp said:
So since my phone line is $150 a month, but i just upgraded last month, I am able to get this phone for $350 or $500?
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Honestly, I don't think think you are eligible for any of the 50 or 100$ off. Now I still haven't quite found out why some stores are charging 350 or 500 so I would simply suggest calling around.

Danni3 said:
wait... I want to get this phone but no data plan... as an att customer already which pricing would fit me
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Well I don't think you can purchase the phone without a data plan. Maybe off contract, but if you want the 2 year agreement price, you HAVE to get a data plan. As for the 50 and 100$ off, you NEED a 2 year agreement and that means you NEED a data plan.

Panduh said:
Honestly, I don't think think you are eligible for any of the 50 or 100$ off. Now I still haven't quite found out why some stores are charging 350 or 500 so I would simply suggest calling around.
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every retail store I've called is selling for 500 dollars, or they do not have any pricing information yet.

Bought phone on launch..

and paid 200 bucks.. think there is any way i can get att to give me a better deal since i can get it for free at walmart???

From what I read, the only way you can get it for free is if you sign up for an AT&T account that is way higher than standard.
I could be wrong though.

I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks

carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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That's what I paid at BB in SoCal

Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?

That's how Apple does it too. They tax the highest price.

i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...

captivated said:
Why would you pay tax on the full price of the phone? I was only taxed for the $200 price. I live in Arizona though, different taxing methods in CA?
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Yes i was told it varies in different states. I was told tht if i wanted to buy an iphone the cost wudve been ($199 + $55 tax) for a 16GB phone.

Lucke said:
i was only charged tax on the actual purchase price of $199.99 in socal... but then again, this was a manager override because the stores were having issues with the actual pricing when the barcode was scanned...
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The sales rep who processed my phone told me tht many times ppl aren't charged the tax while buying the phone but it reflects in the first bill and then they hav customers coming in and demanding explanations from them.
So better watch out for this in the first bill

carporsche said:
I thgt tht i could get a good discount on my captivate phone, but the sales rep told me at the ATT store that if anyone was eligible for an upgrade it would show automatically on their account.
He said the ATT software runs some "algorithms" based on the prev history, plans etc etc..
The walmart eligibility requires tht u should be on a plan paying $100 or more for month for the past year and no upgrade has been made on the phone over some period, Additional points if u have a lower rate plan.
Bottomline, not everyone can get the phone for free at walmart. Likewise not everyone can get the $50 off on the $199 contract plan.
My phone cost me $199 + $45 (9.25% on the original price of $499) in California. can anyone in CA confirm this?
Thanks
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Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.

abezapata said:
Same here bro. I paid 143 for it after my 100 discount with an upgrade. The phone was 99.99 and taxes were the rest of the cost which are from the original 499 price.
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I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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I just ordered it from Walmart as an upgrade on my plan.
They told me it has to be the primary phone if it's a family plan. The secondary lines aren't eligible for the free price. I had the old 550 minutes plan, which I had to change up to 700 minutes. After my discount thru work, it was $8 more than I pay now. Other than that, they told me I just have to maintain that plan for 6 months to avoid charged from them, and I'll get the phone for free.
I guess it could come back from AT&T as a "NO" when they check with them, but I checked 6 ways from Sunday with them and they said I was eligible for any upgrade.

Im in CA too, the tax is just crazy
but one way around it is to get your phone off amazon wireless, which doesnt have tax for CA (yet)
technically your supposed to report that in your taxes but no one does

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I think you need to change ur signature now.. change status to "Obtained..."
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Yes you are right!!

I just ordered mine for $125 + $10tax . My contract expired abt an year ago and I never renewed it. When I called them regarding moving to T-Mobile (for Vibrant) they offered me $75 off + 100 extra minutes every month(I currently have 450 min). I am damn excited to get my first Androiiiiiid

The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart

floppy__ said:
The only way, I thing, would be to go back to AT&T and use your 30 day money back (except $30 for restocking) and the buy your phone at walmart
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exactly what i did.. the guy at the att store told me to call and complain about he 30 restocking fee and they'll credit my account.. free phone will be here thursday!

If you buy it through Amazon wireless, you pay no tax in CA.

You could try bringing in a printout of the deal but as its been pointed out there are a lot of stipulations to get the fee price and you are agreeing that if you change your account they can charge you thee full retail price of the phone.
Ps I work for att
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Want to get a phone for development, but have a question.

Hi Guys,
I've been trying to get a phone for development for around 250ish but havn't been successful. Well, it seems my chance might be comming up since T-Mobile is having a Free Smart Phone sale this weekend.
My plan is to go buy the phone, use it for 16 days and cancel my contract. If everything's done fair, it should cost $200 + 16 days of service + any taxes/activation fees.
So I have a few questions.
1) Has anyone done this before? Where there any suprises?
2) Is WP7 functional with Wifi? (i.e. marketplace, games, internet, etc).
3) Think I'll still be able to get updates or what not?
4) Anything else I should be looking for?
Thanks!

A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.

I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?

vetvito said:
A bill from t-mobile for full price of the phone.
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From experience?
orangekid said:
I don't get it, you want to develop for 16 days?
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Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.

If you keep the phone, that whole special goes out the window. Read the contract. They will charge you full price.

cohowap said:
Umm, no, T-Mobile requires you return hardware when you cancel your contract within 15 days. But they don't charge a fee.
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don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?

orangekid said:
don't they charge an ETF when you sign a contract and cancel it after 16 days?
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No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.

cohowap said:
No, they don't charge an etf if you cancel and return everything before the 15th day.
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ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.

orangekid said:
ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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looks like the op is trying to get the phone for just the subsidized price... then kill contract, and not owe tmo money. good luck, not going to happen. they'll bill for the difference.

orangekid said:
ok now im confused...
you want to get a phone on a discount with a contract, then return it for a refund? I don't get what you're trying to do here.
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No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.

cohowap said:
No... I'm trying to get a WP7 phone to develop with. But I don't have the 600 bucks to buy if "off contract".
So, if I enter a contract, get the phone discounted for FREE this weekend, then "Terminate" the contract a month later, I have to pay the $200 ETF + the month bill + taxes which would be significantly less than the 600 bucks off contract.
Once I terminate the contract, I have no obligation on returning the device, I was asking to see what the outcome would be. T-Mobile online rep blantly said, I'd be responsible for the ETF + Monthly Fee + Taxes, but god knows if they are right, I wanted to see if anyone else tried this.
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I see, let's take a look though.
$200 ETF
$80 monthly fee (cheapest monthly price you can get on WP7 with tmobile)
$35 activation fee
$35 (approx.) taxes and fees
$350 total for the phone.
not sure where you live but here you could get it for something like this:
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2205022524.html
or
http://houston.craigslist.org/mob/2202253067.html
of course there are people asking fro $400 but I can guarantee they will not get near that money for this phone.
If you really want to try what you're talking about then go for it, it seems like it would work, but:
1) they may have a stipulation where you cannot cancel your contract for X months due to the "free" phone or you owe the difference, I'd check the fine print on that one.
2) seems like too much work and drama.
retail for an HD7 on tmobile is $500,

This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.

gcianc said:
This is why Verizon & att (real carriers in the usa) have $350+ ETFs.
watch for mail in rebate that will void if your contract is expired before xx days
orangekid pointed out the actual higher cost though. You might want to check ATT price for a Focus off-contract i've heard can be had for $399 but ymmv. better phone and more coverage if you ever needed to use it as a phone later.
The phone will be fully functional (on wifi) but sim locked to the carrier.
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I don't know what you mean by "real carrier" @ att, since in my city they drop more calls than tmobile ever does even though they probably have more subscribers. ATT's monthly rates (as verizon's) are insanely high too, and they have tiered data, whereas tmobile does not.
off contract they usually give you the sim unlock code, but on contract they generally don't from my experience.

Ugh 2 pages and no answer. The answer to your question is this.
1. You don't need an actual phone to develop apps. The development tool package comes with a simulator.
2. You cannot install apps you are developing on the phone without having it being flagged for development. This process costs 99$ a year and requires you send some identification data to the company that verifies your identity.
So buying a phone for 16 days is pointless. Even if you had the phone you couldn't put any apps on it without paying Microsoft 99$. Personally I would use the simulator to learn how to develop an app, develop one and then buy the phone when you're ready to release. The advantage here is obviously newer better phones in the future compared to right now.
hope that helps

very good points, I figured since OP is trying to scratch, claw, gamble, and steal his way to get the phone, he was just going to use Chevron on it instead of dropping $99 on the fee.

Tmobiles New 49.99 plan

Just called T-Mobile about their new 49.99 unlimited plan to find out some info because my other half and my daughter are on a plan together and the bill is over 200 a month .... The Rep told me there's a $200 migration fee PER LINE then the price of a new phone because we were going to get our daughter a new phone... I asked the Rep who in their right mind would want to pay a $200 migration fee per line.... They make like the plan is so great but oh wait then there's a migration fee of 200.... I told the Rep I was amazed that Tmo is charging that... I've paid a $35 fee but come on... She agreed its crazy and said she actually only heard of two people doing it.... And to add to all that craziness your not eligible for upgrade discounts anymore on that plan.. The higher ups at Tmo are losing it...
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Isn't the migration fee basically a contract termination fee?

So you terminate, hopefully they have recent phones, You sell those phones for 200 each (if they are recent one could be more or less), you offset you phone cost, you then get the new G2x's at the free price. Yes its a new contract, you paid to terminate the old one, you are a new customer again.
If they have G2x's selling the used models at 200 is simple. It one heck of an IPOD music player at that price, combined with all the GPS and wifi usage.
Hopefully they have new phones. The raw deal, it takes 8 months to break even with 400 out of pocket.

The phones are un subsidized, they wouldn't be free. The plan is for people who already have phones.
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swuln said:
Just called T-Mobile about their new 49.99 unlimited plan to find out some info because my other half and my daughter are on a plan together and the bill is over 200 a month .... The Rep told me there's a $200 migration fee PER LINE then the price of a new phone because we were going to get our daughter a new phone... I asked the Rep who in their right mind would want to pay a $200 migration fee per line.... They make like the plan is so great but oh wait then there's a migration fee of 200.... I told the Rep I was amazed that Tmo is charging that... I've paid a $35 fee but come on... She agreed its crazy and said she actually only heard of two people doing it.... And to add to all that craziness your not eligible for upgrade discounts anymore on that plan.. The higher ups at ATT have lost it...
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The acquisition of T-Mobile by AT&T has not been approved as of yet. T-Mobile and AT&T are currently acting as if nothing has changed and are still competing companies at this time. AT&T does not have authority to dictate pricing plans to T-Mobile's managers, otherwise you would have seen those plans skyrocket to much higher prices.
As far as I can tell T-Mobile is attempting to draw customers back in due to the giant gaping hole that customers have been jumping out of ever since AT&T announced their plans to purchase the company. One of the few ways that T-Mobile can compete against other cell companies in this country is by lowering the price, and in this instance that means removing the subsidy fees usually placed into plans by default. One of the reasons that cell plans in this country are so god-forsakenly high is because of the stupid subsidies people accept on their phones, including upgrade pricing.
Sure, you pay a lot less up front but you end up making up that cost and much, much more through the extra dime you pay on your monthly bill. That, and with the contract you cut your own arm off if you choose to leave. Sometimes it's better to pay $400-600 for a phone up front and not face $20-40 (a) extra a month and $200-300 ETF. That's just my opinion, however, and everyone is free to do how they please.
a. The only problem here is that most USA carriers don't have off-contract plans that are equivalent to their regular plans at a lower price. For a long time T-Mobile did; it was called FlexPay and you could get an off-contract plan equivalent to their regular plans just $20 cheaper. That's $200 every 10 months. I'm not sure if any of the four major carriers carry anything equivalent any longer.
Last time I checked though you should be able to switch plans on T-Mobile while on contract, so there isn't any reason anyone should be telling you you have to pay an ETF to switch to another on-contract plan. I would call and request to speak to a manager for clarification. Now, if it was switching to an off-contract plan that's a whole different story.

I in the past I have switched from a contract to a no contract plan and back to a contract plan and only paid a $35 fee each time I think it was... Definitely not a $200 fee ... Its crazy... This is no way to draw in customers .... Sure they'll tell you they can break up the fee in monthly installments but you still lose and they win...
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this is by far the stupidest plan ever and i can. hate it hate it.
so you pay 99.99 for 2 lines.. BUT you buy a G2x at 149.99 down payment. and pay 15$ a month ( paying 450 total) for 20 months.
its EVEN MORE PLUS with a contact...
to top it off you want to cancel you pay $200+ remaining phone so it can easily be $350+!!
talk about bent over and done wrong!

The fine print for this plan states "If you switch plans you may be bound by existing or extended contract term (including early cancellation provisions) and/or charged up to a $200 fee." Seems kind of ridiculous for changing from one contract term to another. Appears they are charging a termination fee and then starting a new contract. If you are going to do that you might as well get two new phones in the deal also.

That plan in general is dumb. If cheap pricing is really what someone is after they should be looking at Sprint not one of the other big carriers. With student discount my 450 minutes, unlimited data/unlimited text plan is $55/mo.

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I made this petition to accomplish the goal of allowing all consumers to choose a their carrier while keeping the phone they already have with another. This could enable greater competition between carriers and therefore fairer terms and lower prices. I would appreciate your support.
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I'm assuming you are happy to see contract prices rise as a result.
The key problem is most Americans are totally ignorant as to the price of a phone, and how their monthly plan subsidises it.

CrazyPeter said:
I'm assuming you are happy to see contract prices rise as a result.
The key problem is most Americans are totally ignorant as to the price of a phone, and how their monthly plan subsidises it.
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This will not end subsidies. The ETF still applies.
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lynyrd65 said:
This will not end subsidies. The ETF still applies.
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subsidies are fine, it's a consumer aweness issue. Too many times you hear American's claiming their iPhone cost them $50....

Im sorry but America has to have the WORST legal system and even worse Carriers.
Let me explain something us Brits learned a long time ago. Some may have realised this but i constantly see people calling phones a $200 phone. ITS NOT
PHONES ARENT SUBSIDIZED - A Subsidy implies that Carriers are giving you a "subsidy" or "Discount" on the phone when you take out your 2 year plan with them. - THIS ISNT TRUE.
You pay 200$ for the Phone and XX per month which is actually significantly higher than the UK pays even with our 20% VAT taken into account.
The Price of a Nexus 4 is $349 Retail and $549 from Tmobile USA - Plus you have to take out a $90 a month plan which gives you unlimited calls and data and texts.
A sim only deal is $69 per month so you save $20 a month which is $480..... (not sure how long contract this is, its not clear)
So HOLD ON! You pay $200 + $480 = $680 Extra to get the Phone included in your deal?
$680 for a Phone which Retails for $349 from Google? or $680 for a phone which retails from Them! at $549
So basically these are called CARRIER SUBSIDIES because YOU are subsidizing the carrier! AND they want to lock YOUR phone so you cant take it elsewhere????
And you thought communism was a bad thing?

It has nothing to do with Nexus 4, that's why I moved it to General.