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Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
ljwnow said:
Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
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I remember people were trying this with the Nexus-1 when it first came out but Google would always end up charging you the full amount if you cancel
ljwnow said:
Way to buy: Buy Tmo then cancel the contract or buy $520 directly?
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How much is the ETF for T-Mobile? I never really tried, then again I have been out of contract for a long time now, I always pay retail for my phones, ends up cheaper, atleast the way Tmobile does it
I saw it in Tmo's policy, it should be $200 ETF but I don't know if there is a catch in the policy for NEXUS S.
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How much is the ETF for T-Mobile?
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$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329)
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That sucks. I've already bought several handsets this year. It seems that I will pay another some $500....BROKE!!!!!!!!!
ap3604 said:
$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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I wouldnt test it if i where you, but if you do you can let the people know how it worked out for you
But i will be there with my 575 dollars
ap3604 said:
$200 for T-mobiles etf, but I remember something like if you bought the Nexus One subsidized and cancelled (in order to get it cheaper), you would end up paying the $200 termination fee PLUS the difference in price for the Nexus One ($329) for a total of $729
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That is definately a disaster!
slowz3r said:
I wouldnt test it if i where you, but if you do you can let the people know how it worked out for you
But i will be there with my 575 dollars
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Tax in KY is 6%. But a good thing is there are not so many people in my city! So I am not worrying about "Sold Out".
ljwnow said:
Tax in KY is 6%. But a good thing is there are not so many people in my city! So I am not worrying about "Sold Out".
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I just posted a thread about what you think the supply/demand will be..im thinking the demand will be low for the "normal" user but the supply scares me
slowz3r said:
I just posted a thread about what you think the supply/demand will be..im thinking the demand will be low for the "normal" user but the supply scares me
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Lol I just wrote something under your thread...
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Lol I just wrote something under your thread...
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i just replied to what your wrote under my thread.
okay ill stop
Well ive been thinking about this too because i got my nexus one for $212 no contract!
199 + tax
Cancelled t mobile during 14 day grace period $0
Google never set up the etf to charge people, $0
And the most they could have charged was $150 for the etf, so it only equals around $350
BUT is it set up for the nexus S?
Either way im sure you could save a few hundred, im adding a line to my plan i think and doing this!
Best Buy doesn't have their own ETF so why not add a line, then cancel it?
hah2110 said:
Best Buy doesn't have their own ETF so why not add a line, then cancel it?
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Adding a line would be done through Tmobile. So once you add a line, canceling it would require you to do it by going through Tmobile. In a sense, Best Buy can be thought of as a Tmobile retailer, if that makes it easier. They aren't the actually phone service themselves that can create/cancel lines.
@Sassyness, if you canceled your contract during the remorse period, how was it that they didn't ask for the Nexus One back?
Does anyonoe know if you have to get a data plan with the Nexus S if you purchase it with a contract?
If so, can that data plan ever be canceled later on by calling Tmobile? For example, let's say I wanted to get the Nexus S as a gift, but wanted to save some money. I have a line on my family plan eligible for upgrade, and say I upgrade it with that line, get a data plan, but I give the Nexus S as a gift to someone who will use their own data plan... can I cancel the data plan that I had to purchase on my line which I upgraded with?
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Does anyonoe know if you have to get a data plan with the Nexus S if you purchase it with a contract?
If so, can that data plan ever be canceled later on by calling Tmobile? For example, let's say I wanted to get the Nexus S as a gift, but wanted to save some money. I have a line on my family plan eligible for upgrade, and say I upgrade it with that line, get a data plan, but I give the Nexus S as a gift to someone who will use their own data plan... can I cancel the data plan that I had to purchase on my line which I upgraded with?
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I believe so yes. Tmobile is really friendly with account changes
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Adding a line would be done through Tmobile. So once you add a line, canceling it would require you to do it by going through Tmobile. In a sense, Best Buy can be thought of as a Tmobile retailer, if that makes it easier. They aren't the actually phone service themselves that can create/cancel lines.
@Sassyness, if you canceled your contract during the remorse period, how was it that they didn't ask for the Nexus One back?
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Well t mobile CANT ask for it back, its not their device.
Leaving google themselves responsible for getting the phone back or charging a fee.
But does bestbuy have a fee or an equipment recovery fee with the NexS? Or is it on googles shoulders again? I need to know
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Well t mobile CANT ask for it back, its not their device.
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Right, you are.
sassyness77 said:
Well ive been thinking about this too because i got my nexus one for $212 no contract!
199 + tax
Cancelled t mobile during 14 day grace period $0
Google never set up the etf to charge people, $0
And the most they could have charged was $150 for the etf, so it only equals around $350
BUT is it set up for the nexus S?
Either way im sure you could save a few hundred, im adding a line to my plan i think and doing this!
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I was wondering about all the people scamming earlier last years. Wow, I'm surprised google didn't charge you the difference.
I am on the Sprint Network and will stay with them for a variety of reasons. I have always had a contract with them and upgraded whenever that opportunity presented itself. I am no longer on a contract and I'm considering a few options. The Note 3 (probably won't go that way due to problems on voice calls), The LG G2 or the Nexus 5. Advantage of the Nexus 5 is that it is off contract but if I am staying with Sprint anyway what advantage is there to being off contract? Sprint won't discount my monthly bill as far as I know so the off contract advantage has me a bit puzzled from the purely dollars and cents point of view. I'd be happy to hear views from others as to why this seems like a good idea. I'm leaning toward the LG G2 which will likely have a better camera and battery than the Nexus 5 and it's only $99 at Sprint with the 2 year contract. I'd go for the Nexus 5 at 399 for the 32GB model if it meant something off my monthly bill but I don't see Sprint giving me a discount just because I bought the Nexus 5 off contract. What am I missing?
I am in the exact same situation as you, except I bought a Note 3 and just returned it. If the Sprint Nexus 5 is available through google play, you buy that, use your upgrade towards an iphone 5s and sell it sealed. If the Nexus 5 winds up being only available through Sprint, then I'm not so sure what I'm going to do.
You can change your mind and leave whenever you want. And with the nexus you will be able to go to any carrier you want (except Verizon).
All in all, it gives you more options on what service provider you want. I would recommend seeing what offers the best service (data and calls) and pick that carrier or see if you can go prepaid. I know straight talk offers at&t and T-Mobile Sim cards and its like $51 a month after taxes for unlimited everything with 2.5 GB uncapped data.
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ricecake2000 said:
You can change your mind and leave whenever you want. And with the nexus you will be able to go to any carrier you want (except Verizon).
All in all, it gives you more options on what service provider you want. I would recommend seeing what offers the best service (data and calls) and pick that carrier or see if you can go prepaid. I know straight talk offers at&t and T-Mobile Sim cards and its like $51 a month after taxes for unlimited everything with 2.5 GB uncapped data.
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Yes, I totally agree that there are A LOT of options. I've even thought about picking up Tmo @ $30/month, but I'm on Sero, only pay $50/month for unlimited everything, and my Sprint service has been fantastic since relocating to Orlando, FL. Oh decisions decisions
Jocelyn said:
I am in the exact same situation as you, except I bought a Note 3 and just returned it. If the Sprint Nexus 5 is available through google play, you buy that, use your upgrade towards an iphone 5s and sell it sealed. If the Nexus 5 winds up being only available through Sprint, then I'm not so sure what I'm going to do.
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Boom Baby. Haha
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Trying to weigh my options as well.
My 2 year contract expired many months ago. I can buy the 16g Nexus 5 for $150 if I sign a new 2 year agreement, I can change to the Sprint One Up plan so I can be eligible for a new phone once a year (not sure pricing details), or I can buy through the Google Playstore for $350/$400. I have so many family members tied to the plan I am on I probably wouldn't switch carriers.
So if I bought through Google and in a year's time I wanted to switch phones I guess I could sell the Nexus 5 then use my upgrade to buy whatever phone I wanted. If I buy through Sprint, the upfront cost is cheaper, but I will have to wait a couple years if I want to switch phones.
Decisions, what do ya'll think?
For someone off-contract but that wants to stick with their post-paid account, the only advantage is flexibility. If coverage or financial conditions changed, you have the choice to be able to switch providers with no termination fees.
The only real exception to that would be the newer T-Mobile post-paid accounts where they do offer plans with lower base costs per month because they split off the phone subsidy, so if you bring your own phone you pay less since you aren't using a subsidy.
If you have a high degree of confidence you will be staying with your current contract provider and that other things like your financial situation will remain stable, I would say it makes more sense to just re-up with them and choose whatever phone you want from them. As far as which one, read some reviews and then try them out in-person at your local provider's store. Everyone has slightly different things they want out of phones, so without specific criteria it would be hard to say whether a Nexus 5 would still be the best phone for you.
I agree with you, flexibility is the main advantage of staying off contract. I've had an S3 for the last couple of years and am getting the itch to switch. If the HTC One came out today I would probably get that because I love the looks and build of it and I liked my original Evo, but it's so "old" now I want something newer - LG G2, Nexus 5 or some other upcoming phone.
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For someone off-contract but that wants to stick with their post-paid account, the only advantage is flexibility. If coverage or financial conditions changed, you have the choice to be able to switch providers with no termination fees.
The only real exception to that would be the newer T-Mobile post-paid accounts where they do offer plans with lower base costs per month because they split off the phone subsidy, so if you bring your own phone you pay less since you aren't using a subsidy.
If you have a high degree of confidence you will be staying with your current contract provider and that other things like your financial situation will remain stable, I would say it makes more sense to just re-up with them and choose whatever phone you want from them. As far as which one, read some reviews and then try them out in-person at your local provider's store. Everyone has slightly different things they want out of phones, so without specific criteria it would be hard to say whether a Nexus 5 would still be the best phone for you.
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It always amazes me how people would rather be in a contract that will require them to pay between $1-2,000 more over two years, instead of buying a phone outright and upfront, and save the money. Unless someone is too broke to afford a phone upfront... Of course if you can't afford a phone upfront, you likely can't afford a $100 monthly cell phone bill either.
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It always amazes me how people would rather be in a contract that will require them to pay between $1-2,000 more over two years, instead of buying a phone outright and upfront, and save the money. Unless someone is too broke to afford a phone upfront... Of course if you can't afford a phone upfront, you likely can't afford a $100 monthly cell phone bill either.
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Sure, but for people who only pay $50/month for essentially unlimited everything ( 1000 landline minutes, unlimited mobile minutes, texts, and data), subsidizing phones works in our favor.
We've been w/Sprint forever and have numerous phones on the account. I'm one of the ones who pays $50 for unlimited. I'm assuming I would continue to pay $50/month whether I bought a phone outright or through contract. I doubt if I bought a phone off contract my bill would be lower than $50/month.
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Sure, but for people who only pay $50/month for essentially unlimited everything ( 1000 landline minutes, unlimited mobile minutes, texts, and data), subsidizing phones works in our favor.
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If your on contract, why not buy the phone through google play and just use that on Sprint til you leave for ATT/Tmo?
I'm off contract, like a year now.
SageWilliams said:
If your on contract, why not buy the phone through google play and just use that on Sprint til you leave for ATT/Tmo?
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If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
Good Reasons..
The $49 phone will likely be SIM-locked. In addition to getting the ability to use the phone on any GSM network in the world, this would likely increase the resale price in ebay when you get your next phone.
You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
Plus, in California, you would have to pay sales tax on the full Sprint retail price of $449, reducing the differential by another $9 or so.
You can buy an Iphone 5s at the subsidized price, never open the box, and sell it on ebay. You will get far more than the differential between the $149 and the $349.
There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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History often repeats. Sprint has never sold a phone that was SIM unlocked for US use. They have in the past sold some phones that were unlocked for internatioal use, but morw recently they have been sold locked for all GSM networks.
I would bet a signficant sum of money that it will be locked.
ronwi2 said:
The $49 phone will likely be SIM-locked. In addition to getting the ability to use the phone on any GSM network in the world, this would likely increase the resale price in ebay when you get your next phone.
You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
Plus, in California, you would have to pay sales tax on the full Sprint retail price of $449, reducing the differential by another $9 or so.
You can buy an Iphone 5s at the subsidized price, never open the box, and sell it on ebay. You will get far more than the differential between the $149 and the $349.
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I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
ronwi2 said:
History often repeats. Sprint has never sold a phone that was SIM unlocked for US use. They have in the past sold some phones that were unlocked for internatioal use, but morw recently they have been sold locked for all GSM networks.
I would bet a significant sum of money that it will be locked.
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The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
jalanjkcarp said:
There is absolutely no evidence to support an idea that the Nexus 5 bought through Sprint is sim locked. As to the MVNO question is there an MVNO that has triband access to Sprint?
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Ting and Ringplus currently offer access to Sprint LTE and both say they will support the Nexus 5 (unless Sprint vetoes it).
Tomeygun said:
I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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Guys at the Sprint store have also said in recent days that you can't activiate a phone on Sprint unless it has a Sprint logo.
All I'm saying is Sprint appears to be a new ballgame under Softbank ownership. With the pressures from T-Mobile's new attitude and stodgy attitude of the big gorilla Verizon, don't assume anything about Sprint right now in my opinion.
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Guys at the Sprint store have also said in recent days that you can't activiate a phone on Sprint unless it has a Sprint logo.
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There are already multiple threads with people getting Sprint SIMs for the Play Store version as well as news reports from reputable sites stating that the Play Store version can be activated on Sprint.
The real question is, how many people who lose their Sprint subsidized Nexus 5 will then pay $449 to Sprint (for a likely locked phone) instead of $349 to Google?
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How did you get that price? Gamestop website says they will pay $378: http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5S+32GB+Sprint+-+A1453
Tomeygun said:
I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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[/COLOR]How did you get that price? Gamestop website says they will pay $378: http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5S+32GB+Sprint+-+A1453
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That link is the 5s, I bought the 5c:
http://www.gamestop.com/recommerce/...ducttitle=Apple+iPhone+5c+32GB+Sprint+-+A1456
Trade in is $448 (store credit), plus if you buy ANY used game(even one for a dollar).... they will give you 30% more for your trade in. 448 x 1.3 = $582.
Then you just use all that store credit for gift cards. I got all shell gas cards... I spend about 400/month in fuel, so its like pre-paying for my fuel, and using the funds I would have spent on fuel... for my nexus.
I even bought a few used 4s models off craigslist, met at sprint... then traded them in at gamestop for a profit same day.
Beware gamestop has google PLAY gift cards, but they cannot be used for hardware.
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You will not pay the $36 activation with the Play Store phone, further reducing the differential.
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Is that true? I thought activation charge was mandatory on every phone that hasn't ever been activated on Sprint's network
jj14 said:
Is that true? I thought activation charge was mandatory on every phone that hasn't ever been activated on Sprint's network
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This is not true. Only phones you buy from sprint or places representing sprint like best buy and radio shack have activation fees.
Only reason I'm staying with Sprint is due to an employee discount. My second choice would be T-Mobile. Sprint reception in my area isn't really THAT bad. I don't ever get dropped calls. But, the data is slow as balls though, so that's kind of a disappointment. For some reason too, I keep having faith that Sprint will implement LTE in my area (Sacramento) which I've been receiving little bits of. I'm not looking forward to activating my Nexus, though.. Seems like it'll be a pain.
lafester said:
This is not true. Only phones you buy from sprint or places representing sprint like best buy and radio shack have activation fees.
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I certainly hope you are right (Some of the Sprint reps usually have no idea what they are talking about).
In the past, I've bought unactivated phones from craigslist, and have had to pay activation fees (but they likely bought it from Sprint in the first place). Hopefully, Google play purchases are exempt from this charge. I'll update this post once I receive and activate my phone later this week.
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If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
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I'll give you my two reasons:
1. Still on contract
2. Have Sprint Family Plan, so the economy does work out
Why stay on Sprint at all?
Sprint is the only carrier that has a tower in the perfect place to penetrate signal where I work (in basement level offices).
Tomeygun said:
I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
The guy at sprint when I was buying the 5c said the sprint Nexus5 will be locked to sprint only. I asked why the price difference for a less desirable phone? He was like, hey, I only work here... I would buy the Nex5 from google if you can afford it.
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Perhaps you live in a state with no sales tax? I'm in California, so the $199 Iphone 5c is actually $271. However, the 30% bonus combined with buying some sort of stored value card is a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't drive a gasolin car, so the Shell cards won't work for me, I'll have to see what else they have in stock.
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Perhaps you live in a state with no sales tax? I'm in California, so the $199 Iphone 5c is actually $271. However, the 30% bonus combined with buying some sort of stored value card is a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't drive a gasolin car, so the Shell cards won't work for me, I'll have to see what else they have in stock.
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Yes and no, sales tax only on the amount spent - so like $12.
A friend of mine got all google play gift cards... and because you cant buy hardware with google play credit, he called and got a "one time" refund of his entire play balance in the form of a check. Boom, cash for his Nex5
Ps - got my nex5 yesterday. paranoid to even carry it without a case, still rocking the evo lte...
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I did this yesterday. Bought a 32gig iphone 5c for $199. Walked in gamestop and got $582 for it... Net $382 profit for me to pay for my Nexus5 outright.
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Good thing you did that when you did. Gamestop is showing only $250 trade in value for a Sprint 32 GB 5C now, which would be only $300 with the 30% bonus.
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If you buy from the Play Store, you are paying full price (although a VERY good price) for an unsubsidized phone. But Sprint does not give you any break on the plan price, you still pay the same rate as the guy who got his N5 through Sprint for $49. So WHY stay with Sprint? Why not one of the much lower priced Sprint MVNO's? Just asking....
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Because the guy getting his N5 for $49 is joining Sprint as a new customer and porting his/her number to Sprint as well otherwise he is paying $149 not $49 and a $36 one time activation fee as well. Also, this person can only be a new customer once and not everytime. We were all new customers to a carrier at one time and got to benefit from the subsidy model at some point.
I'm not one to play the song and dance of bed-hopping from carrier to carrier every few months or thereabouts. Longetivity sometimes counts, in my case, counts for a lot. Been with the same carrier going on 14 yrs now. Guess what i pay including taxes, ~$58, i get 500 anytime, unlimited N/W @ 7pm, unlimited M2M, unlimited SMS/MMS, unlimited data 3G/LTE, roaming etc.
A plan like this would typically run double, and for the MVNO, you get rationed on the data (which still meets most people's needs anyway).
When new stuff comes out, i can either choose to re-up, get the subsidy price and continue with my plan, or buy the phone outright and continue with my plan. I'm usually never in a hurry to have the cool stuff on day one. For example, rather than re-up for a Note 2 at whatever the 2yr extension price was when it was all the rage (it still is :fingers-crossed: ), i just bought it off CList for 300 mint in box. Either way, in my case, i'm just peachy.
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Good thing you did that when you did. Gamestop is showing only $250 trade in value for a Sprint 32 GB 5C now, which would be only $300 with the 30% bonus.
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yeah saw that. Stopped my little business cold (buying on craiglist, selling to gamestop). Seems like someone got caught paying too much... hehe
Would this prevent you from buying it if it's still locked just like the S5? (for Verizon and AT&T variants). Discuss
You know, I was just thinking the same today. I think since Samsung appears to not be using Qualcomm, they should be using the same Exynos processor on all variants. What that means is that there shouldn't be a huge issue whether you get the original or Tmobile version. More than likely AT&T version will have a locked bootloader. I would say wait until the phone gets released and see if it has it or not. Hopefully this locked boot loader wont make a difference from here on.
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I will never be fettered by Verizon or AT&T after spending my money on my own phone again. The only way they will get my money is through Straight Talk, and I'll buy my own device.
If you dont want locked bootloader then why not pay full price for 900$?
They'not forcing you buy locked version for only 200$.
Aircondition said:
If you dont want locked bootloader then why not pay full price for 900$?
They'not forcing you buy locked version for only 200$.
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The locked version isn't "only $200." That's just what you pay up front, but they collect the balance from you with every billing cycle for 24 months. In the end, no amortized phone is cheaper than a phone purchased outright.
And if you wait out the first couple months, the price always lowers to a sane level.
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The locked version isn't "only $200." That's just what you pay up front, but they collect the balance from you with every billing cycle for 24 months. In the end, no amortized phone is cheaper than a phone purchased outright.
And if you wait out the first couple months, the price always lowers to a sane level.
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That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
zathus said:
That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
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On AT&T right now, a Note 4 is $27.54 x 30 mo. = $826.20. Their 3GB mobile data plan is $65/mo. before taxes & fees, so probably ~$80 with. Over 2 years (and the remaining 6 mos. on the phone), that's $2,746.
Or I buy the phone outright for $630 unlocked and use Straight Talk (AT&T's equipment) for $45/mo. = $1,710, $1,036 cheaper. I can sell the phone when I get bored with it and still come out way ahead.
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On Verizon, $300 for the phone and $80/mo. 2 yr. contact before taxes & fees (probably ~$100/mo.), so about the same as AT&T for 1GB less data.
CafeKampuchia said:
On AT&T right now, a Note 4 is $27.54 x 30 mo. = $826.20. Their 3GB mobile data plan is $65/mo. before taxes & fees, so probably ~$80 with. Over 2 years (and the remaining 6 mos. on the phone), that's $2,746.
Or I buy the phone outright for $630 unlocked and use Straight Talk (AT&T's equipment) for $45/mo. = $1,710, $1,036 cheaper. I can sell the phone when I get bored with it and still come out way ahead.
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On Verizon, $300 for the phone and $80/mo. 2 yr. contact before taxes & fees (probably ~$100/mo.), so about the same as AT&T for 1GB less data.
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That's the edge program (for Vzw) and is in place so that you can upgrade every 6 months. Which would void the 24 moth discussion. On a regular contract. You pay the 200 or 250 subsidized price.
Here's my plan. I have 5 lines, each line is 40 per month. 2 lines are still unlimited, 3 are 6 gigs. My plan is 80 a month. My Wifes company gets us a 15% discount. (i think) all in all I spend 193 a month. 3 lines are off contract ( obviously 2 are unlimited lines) and the price is the same as the on contract lines. I subsidized a droid turbo on launch, 64 gig for 180 (got a few discounts) sold it last weekend for 490. (wasn't happy with it) so I pocket 300 for a line I was going to be paying for no matter what. I have no intentions of leaving Verizon, so why not use the program that gets me a massive discount and no extra cost? So now, I take that 500, subsidize a s6 when it comes out, pay..250ish.. And basically I got the s6 for free..
How is buying the phone outright a better deal then that? Obviously it's situational. But for my situation it works
zathus said:
That's interesting because I have yet to see my bill go down or up depending on if I'm on contract or not. You say 24 months as if when that ends, poof you pay less. Or when you subsidize, bam you pay more. At least on vzw.
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On any carrier besides Verizon both of those are in fact the case.
But then again, if you use Verizon you probably don't care about whether or not you're being screwed.
MikeyMike01 said:
On any carrier besides Verizon both of those are in fact the case.
But then again, if you use Verizon you probably don't care about whether or not you're being screwed.
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Like I said. Its situational. Generalizing it is fun, but doesn't make it fact. If I switched to tmoble today, who's coverage doesn't even come close to VZ in my area, I would pay 140 more per month, and I have to pay full price for the phones...yeah, I'll pass! Lol...situational!
My plan on Verizon:
- 15GB data: $100/month - 22% discount = $78/month
- 5 lines (no contract and/or EDGE): $40/line - $25/line discount for month2month = $200 - $125 = $75
- Insurance on 3 lines = ~$30
Total: ~$200-205 after taxes
Edit: What I'm trying to say is.... those 3 lines you have with no contract, you get $25/line off your bill. But most Verizon reps don't know about it, and will keep saying "that's only if you're on the Verizon EDGE program", its called the month2month discount, for not having a contract, and if a rep doesn't know about it, tell them to go ask their manager where the discount is located in their system.
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That's the edge program (for Vzw) and is in place so that you can upgrade every 6 months. Which would void the 24 moth discussion. On a regular contract. You pay the 200 or 250 subsidized price.
Here's my plan. I have 5 lines, each line is 40 per month. 2 lines are still unlimited, 3 are 6 gigs. My plan is 80 a month. My Wifes company gets us a 15% discount. (i think) all in all I spend 193 a month. 3 lines are off contract ( obviously 2 are unlimited lines) and the price is the same as the on contract lines. I subsidized a droid turbo on launch, 64 gig for 180 (got a few discounts) sold it last weekend for 490. (wasn't happy with it) so I pocket 300 for a line I was going to be paying for no matter what. I have no intentions of leaving Verizon, so why not use the program that gets me a massive discount and no extra cost? So now, I take that 500, subsidize a s6 when it comes out, pay..250ish.. And basically I got the s6 for free..
How is buying the phone outright a better deal then that? Obviously it's situational. But for my situation it works
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I don't root anymore, so locked bootloaders don't have any effect on my decisions. But I wish rooting was more like the "good ole' days (htc hero - galaxy s3 days, and windows mobile before that).
it wont prevent me, but its sad that my bootloader is locked when the other carriers arent (vzw)
vikramjatt11 said:
My plan on Verizon:
- 15GB data: $100/month - 22% discount = $78/month
- 5 lines (no contract and/or EDGE): $40/line - $25/line discount for month2month = $200 - $125 = $75
- Insurance on 3 lines = ~$30
Total: ~$200-205 after taxes
Edit: What I'm trying to say is.... those 3 lines you have with no contract, you get $25/line off your bill. But most Verizon reps don't know about it, and will keep saying "that's only if you're on the Verizon EDGE program", its called the month2month discount, for not having a contract, and if a rep doesn't know about it, tell them to go ask their manager where the discount is located in their system.
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I will look in to that. Thanks
Definately changing my mind.. Locked BL.. So boring.. Last four month i am look like iphone users always the same.. I used evo 4g, photon, s3 and s4 with sprint i enjoy this all phones.. Now i will buy tmobile s6 or m9 then be free.
Droid_Evo_8 said:
Would this prevent you from buying it if it's still locked just like the S5? (for Verizon and AT&T variants). Discuss
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Hell yeah! Had the S5 from att for 14 days and returned it. Became boring and went back to my s3
I'm done with locked bootloaders. If i can't root it, I don't want it. Bought the T-Mobile S6 to use on AT&T. Now all i have to do is get it sim unlocked.
greyhulk said:
I'm done with locked bootloaders. If i can't root it, I don't want it. Bought the T-Mobile S6 to use on AT&T. Now all i have to do is get it sim unlocked.
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How did you do that? Were you able to get it without getting a t mobile account.
I currently have a Galaxy Note 4 with Sprint. When I originally purchased this phone, I paid $299 with a 2 year contract with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Now, all of the advertised purchase options for phones are to do monthly payments. Can you still purchase a phone subsidized if you are on a grandfathered plan?
Thanks
jhoffy22 said:
I currently have a Galaxy Note 4 with Sprint. When I originally purchased this phone, I paid $299 with a 2 year contract with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Now, all of the advertised purchase options for phones are to do monthly payments. Can you still purchase a phone subsidized if you are on a grandfathered plan?
Thanks
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Sprint advised me when i preordered my S8+ that the 2 year upgrades are done. Options are lease, 24 month payments, or but outright. Kind of sucks but you do get a$10/ month credit as an existing customer so my 24 month payments are like $25. That means I get the phone for like 650 instead of 850.
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raptoro07 said:
Sprint advised me when i preordered my S8+ that the 2 year upgrades are done. Options are lease, 24 month payments, or but outright. Kind of sucks but you do get a$10/ month credit as an existing customer so my 24 month payments are like $25. That means I get the phone for like 650 instead of 850.
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What are you talking about? There is no 10$ per month for the 24 months of a 24 month credit. What you be taking about is not there.
It is there. I'm on the SERO plan and I get $15/ month bill credit if I upgrade using lease or installment billing.
rdcrds said:
What are you talking about? There is no 10$ per month for the 24 months of a 24 month credit. What you be taking about is not there.
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rdcrds said:
What are you talking about? There is no 10$ per month for the 24 months of a 24 month credit. What you be taking about is not there.
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Sorry must only be available for certain plans. I'm not sero, but an old grandfathered plan.
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I currently have a Galaxy Note 4 with Sprint. When I originally purchased this phone, I paid $299 with a 2 year contract with a grandfathered unlimited data plan. Now, all of the advertised purchase options for phones are to do monthly payments. Can you still purchase a phone subsidized if you are on a grandfathered plan?
Thanks
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Sorry brother, I think VZ will give you a LG 43 inch TV if you go with them but that's for the LG G6 on 24 mo plan. But I haven't seen a thing on this phone and I believe subbing is dead because of no contract carrier aggregation. Every year I upgrade cash up front purchase for the new phone and if I'm unhappy I'll sell it on Swappa and move on. This way I'm not stuck and will always upgrade to whatever I want usually it costs me a couple hundred but that's nothing considering the benefits. Hope this helps.
raptoro07 said:
Sprint advised me when i preordered my S8+ that the 2 year upgrades are done. Options are lease, 24 month payments, or but outright. Kind of sucks but you do get a$10/ month credit as an existing customer so my 24 month payments are like $25. That means I get the phone for like 650 instead of 850.
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browning said:
It is there. I'm on the SERO plan and I get $15/ month bill credit if I upgrade using lease or installment billing.
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So the credit not constant for existing customer?
SptMogul said:
So the credit not constant for existing customer?
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It seems it varies from type of plan. I've got a unlimited data plan from like 6 or 8 years ago with 4 lines and the other guy has a SERO plan.
I think the credit is do to trying to equalize what you are already paying in phone subsidies built into your existing plan.
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Sprint advised me when i preordered my S8+ that the 2 year upgrades are done. Options are lease, 24 month payments, or but outright. Kind of sucks but you do get a$10/ month credit as an existing customer so my 24 month payments are like $25. That means I get the phone for like 650 instead of 850.
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That's a BS. Cancel your order and get it directly from Samsung. Pay the full price or installments, call Sprint and activate your new device on your old plan.
I was able to pre-order the Galaxy S8/S8+ for $299/$399 on my grandfathered unlimited data plan on a business account.
Okay heres the skimmy.
If your on a business account, you still have the option for 2 year agreements. Thats buisness plan perk.
Regular OLD plans, like the Sero, Everything Data, some times the old unlimited plans, will get whats called a Loyalty lease credit. Which can be 10 -15 dollars depending on the device. You get that because of the fact that your on an older plan. No store, and now even customer care and online are supposed to offer a 2 year unless you're on business.
Depending on your plan, changing to an newer unlimted plan is usually cheaper anyway. one line on 1500 everything is 130 bucks...so not worth it.
Subsidized plans are done for all carriers.
2 year contracts are a thing of the past. If you have certain older plans you can get a $10 bill credit on your installment billing. Sprint brought back the Galaxy Forever plan where you can upgrade every year on an 18 month lease, however the phone has to be in good working condition with you turn it back in. You have the option the buy the phone after the lease term for a couple hundred dollars or so. Only benefit of lease is not having to pay the taxes when you pick up your phone, as it gets spread out of over the 18 months on your bill. I would just pre-order from Best Buy on installment billing and get the S8+ for $100 off. There are only a handful of older plans that are eligible for the bill credit. If you happen to have that plan you will be getting an S8+ for a total of $510 after credits and $100 pre-order promotion.
I have the available $10 a month bill credit which would be $240 over the life of the phone ... debating on this or the $150 Sam's club gift card
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I have the available $10 a month bill credit which would be $240 over the life of the phone ... debating on this or the $150 Sam's club gift card
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I did for a second, the realized 240>150. And you have to do everything in store for Sam's club. (Pick up and activation)
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raptoro07 said:
I did for a second, the realized 240>150. And you have to do everything in store for Sam's club. (Pick up and activation)
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I have a tax free business account and no shipping so that's another $95 in savings
i just ordered the lg g6 (for the wife) and the s8+ for me. sprint rep said no more 24 month payments...just 18 month leasing only, then either trade in or buy out the rest. now on spring site i do only see leasing on the s8+, but on the lg g6..it shows 24 month payments. she said it literally changed that day...4/21. dont trust what she says....she also told me if i didnt do the updates on the s8+, the software would destroy itself...lol.
but can anyone confirm this?
viperkota said:
i just ordered the lg g6 (for the wife) and the s8+ for me. sprint rep said no more 24 month payments...just 18 month leasing only, then either trade in or buy out the rest. now on spring site i do only see leasing on the s8+, but on the lg g6..it shows 24 month payments. she said it literally changed that day...4/21. dont trust what she says....she also told me if i didnt do the updates on the s8+, the software would destroy itself...lol.
but can anyone confirm this?
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The LG G6 is not on a lease. It's onlyu Easy Pay/ 24month installments. S8s are able to be leased as of right now.
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fatboypup said:
I have the available $10 a month bill credit which would be $240 over the life of the phone ... debating on this or the $150 Sam's club gift card
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From what I understand as long as you're on a qualifying legacy plan, you will get a back office credit of 10 a month for just having it on a lease or installment agreement. If not call in and make sure they apply the promo to the line.
So you would get both. The card is from Sam's club, the promo is through sprint.
RevChappy said:
The LG G6 is not on a lease. It's onlyu Easy Pay/ 24month installments. S8s are able to be leased as of right now.
we were told the stores do it different than online. online shows 24 payments, store says lease only. SUPPOSEDLY onine is suppose to be changing. guess i better call sprint and see.
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