I'm in the process of temp root to extract boot img for a dev that still does work for our phone. He'll most likely use that to continue development for AutoRec but after I'm done with that I think I'm about done with having nothing available in terms of software on Marshmallow. Considering rolling back to Lollipop. Is it gonna be a pain and are the resources readily available?
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I'm in the process of temp root to extract boot img for a dev that still does work for our phone. He'll most likely use that to continue development for AutoRec but after I'm done with that I think I'm about done with having nothing available in terms of software on Marshmallow. Considering rolling back to Lollipop. Is it gonna be a pain and are the resources readily available?
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I don't think there's any antiroll back. But you can't rollback to lollipop. You'd have to roll back to KitKat and OTA update to lollipop as long as your using an AT&T sim.
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hyelton said:
I don't think there's any antiroll back. But you can't rollback to lollipop. You'd have to roll back to KitKat and OTA update to lollipop as long as your using an AT&T sim.
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If I click OTA update then it'll bring me all the way back up to Marshmallow though right? What would make it stop at Lollipop?
jlgarr86 said:
If I click OTA update then it'll bring me all the way back up to Marshmallow though right? What would make it stop at Lollipop?
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If it does bring you all the way back to MM then you'd have to flash a custom lollipop rom then.
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hyelton said:
If it does bring you all the way back to MM then you'd have to flash a custom lollipop rom then.
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You seem like you know you're stuff so let me ask you something. If there's no perm root for Marshmallow why are people still making Marshmallow ROMs? What's the benefit in running a custom ROM with no recovery, backups or root permission?
you NEED root and recovery to load custom roms. people make marshmallow roms because they're tried/true/stable. the OTA updates happen in stages. at&t has no single large update that brings you from KK straight to MM, you have a couple updates in-between though not sure how many... at least one!
@hyelton - is there no root for stock MM yet or do I have to downgrade using LG tool in windows then root?
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you NEED root and recovery to load custom roms. people make marshmallow roms because they're tried/true/stable. the OTA updates happen in stages. at&t has no single large update that brings you from KK straight to MM, you have a couple updates in-between though not sure how many... at least one!
@hyelton - is there no root for stock MM yet or do I have to downgrade using LG tool in windows then root?
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You would first have to downgrade using LGUP. There's no root for MM
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Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.
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And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.
So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!
hi everyone.
im here to ask you about my g3.
i installed cyanide-5.1.1-RC-18.0-d850 rom.
and i wanna back to stock rom because is a bad custom i didn't like it at all.
so please any one can help me to back to the stock rom for my at&t lg g3 d850.
please guys i need more than anything else.
Kabos Net said:
hi everyone.
im here to ask you about my g3.
i installed cyanide-5.1.1-RC-18.0-d850 rom.
and i wanna back to stock rom because is a bad custom i didn't like it at all.
so please any one can help me to back to the stock rom for my at&t lg g3 d850.
please guys i need more than anything else.
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It's in the OP.. In the AT&T folder. There's no lollipop TOT. You'll need to ota update to get it after flashing
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hyelton said:
It's in the OP.. In the AT&T folder. There's no lollipop TOT. You'll need to ota update to get it after flashing
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i wanna a download link or any thing that give me any at&t lg g3 friimware kitkate/lollipop.
the ota update not gonna work because im stuck in a custom frimware called cyanid 5.1.1
Kabos Net said:
i wanna a download link or any thing that give me any at&t lg g3 friimware kitkate/lollipop.
the ota update not gonna work because im stuck in a custom frimware called cyanid 5.1.1
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Like I said the OP... If you follow the guide youd be stock. This method puts you back to 100% stock.
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I would like to add , if you want to be rooted make sure after installing KitKat stock to root and then to install a custom stock based Rom like Cloudy or any of the stock based Roms here in XDA, if you install all the updates for lollipop you Won't be able to root and you'll have to go back to KitKat to root. I talk from experience.
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I would like to add , if you want to be rooted make sure after installing KitKat stock to root and then to install a custom stock based Rom like Cloudy or any of the stock based Roms here in XDA, if you install all the updates for lollipop you Won't be able to root and you'll have to go back to KitKat to root. I talk from experience.
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Bad advice is not good. Lollipop is easily rooted.
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If you are OK with keeping TWRP and root, you can go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/development/rom-lg-d850-20f-lollipop-5-0-1-extras-t3052041
or here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att-lg-g3/development/rom-20f-stock-rom-debloated-t3059610
It will be much easier to flash one of these than to do the full stock restore back to kitkat
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/09/samsung-has-started-working-on-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-these-devices/
Please read the source link
I read that as well, I am curious to see where this will go.... fingers crossed!
It would explain why we haven't received 5.1.1 yet. They may just jump us straight to 6.0 but it also means we will have to choose whether to stay rooted on 5.0 or give up root for 6.0 since it can (currently) only be rooted if you have an unlocked bootloader.
Dudash said:
It would explain why we haven't received 5.1.1 yet. They may just jump us straight to 6.0 but it also means we will have to choose whether to stay rooted on 5.0 or give up root for 6.0 since it can (currently) only be rooted if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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Indeed. Due to selinux (which is a great feature), rooting 5.1.1 or later requires an selinux permissive kernel. Otherwise you end up with a bootloop after rooting. And the only way to get an selinux permissive kernel is to build from samsung sources... basically Samsung has officially defeated root as of Android 5.1.1 with it's heavy integration of KNOX.
Can we'll have root on Android 6.0
Xavie_99 said:
Can we'll have root on Android 6.0
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NO
Thanks
Mmm do you have the update ??
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Thanks
Mmm do you have the update ??
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It was just released for Nexus. Not showing up on this old phone for a looooooong time
Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v
m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v
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WHEN it gets released you will be able to take it via OTA there will be no need to flash. WHEN it gets released you will be free to go to stock no root 6.0
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WHEN it gets released you will be able to take it via OTA there will be no need to flash. WHEN it gets released you will be free to go to stock no root 6.0
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Oh, okay. So I'm waiting for it to come out then I can just download it on my phone, root or not.
m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v
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m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Oh, okay. So I'm waiting for it to come out then I can just download it on my phone, root or not.
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Yes, but ... if you are rooted and activate sdm to allow the OTA notification and take the OTA, you do it knowing that you are saying goodbye to root, probably for the remaining life of your phone.
I dont think marshmallow has enough in it for me to loose root. lol no thanks
i need to go back
yes you can. simply flash any custom rom u like..
Did you find any issues in MM?
Don't do it. First of all check if the bootloader got updated. Newer bootloader won't accept 5.1.1. If you updated via OTA you can't go back. Only option is CM13.
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I did the samething what I had to do is intall twrp download the lasted 5.1.1 lollipop I got mine from PAC ROM the surnia oh yeah dont for get gapps I get the mini but its what you want and that's the fastest way and safest way. Hope that helps
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Why?
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Prepare your devices fellas , 7.1.1 is about to roll out cause there's an article on bgr said so
I personally wanna wait 'til Xposed is compatible for nougat.
http://www.bgr.in/news/motorola-moto-x-style-android-nougat-7-1-1-update-starts-rolling-out/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/general/nougat-update-started-rolling-t3526308
I don't see how a benchmark entry suddenly means official Nougat is rolling out anyway.
Yeah, that headline is hyperbole. It's a good indicator that it's getting closer. Not that it is about to our is rolling out.
Oh look, another Nougat roll out thread with the same image as all of the others.
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would a rooted unlocked bootloader phone gonna get ota update?
if not, what should one do in order to get it?
thx in advance
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would a rooted unlocked bootloader phone gonna get ota update?
if not, what should one do in order to get it?
thx in advance
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Yeah i was wondering the samething.
the-light said:
would a rooted unlocked bootloader phone gonna get ota update?
if not, what should one do in order to get it?
thx in advance
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Your Phone will give the message that there is an update to new software. But as soon you will try to install it, it will fail.
OTA can't be installed on custom recovery, you need te be on stock rom, stock recovery and unrooted.
There are a few posts on the general section to go back to scratch, or just wait till a developer makes an stock based rom on 7.1.
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Your Phone will give the message that there is an update to new software. But as soon you will try to install it, it will fail.
OTA can't be installed on custom recovery, you need te be on stock rom, stock recovery and unrooted.
There are a few posts on the general section to go back to scratch, or just wait till a developer makes an stock based rom on 7.1.
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Chainfire might work though.
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Chainfire might work though.
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Do you mean FlashFire? flashfire warns you that Motorola devices are Experimental.
Isn't it risky to from 6 to 7 with flashfire? And sure you may not have Xposed Framework installed.
Ijspegel said:
Do you mean FlashFire? flashfire warns you that Motorola devices are Experimental.
Isn't it risky to from 6 to 7 with flashfire? And sure you may not have Xposed Framework installed.
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Flashfire is of course what I meant, Doh on my part!! Never had any issues with it working with my Moto X Style. I would imagine that Motorola have factored in that the majority of their users will still be running an out of date version of Android and that it will go from 6 to 7 with little if any issues. I'll be giving it a try from a custom 7.1.1 rom first before wiping my device and trying it that way, once (if!) it comes out of course.
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