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[Q] stock rom

Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!

ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.

iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?

ps.christos said:
So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.

Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.

iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).

iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.

Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.

iElvis said:
I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.

redpoint73 said:
Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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marsyeti said:
I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.

marsyeti said:
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.

redpoint73 said:
Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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marsyeti said:
But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.

So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!

Verizon rolling out Stagefright patch for Galaxy S5

Verizon is rolling out Stagefright OTA patch for Galaxy S5. I installed and tested the patch. My phone is stock/un-rooted, and appears to be working fine after the patch.

What android version?

G900VVRU2BOG5 is the new update VZ rolling out...
I have captured the update.zip OTA ..
Let me know if some needs for research. .
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JavaManRules-GS4 said:
G900VVRU2BOG5 is the new update VZ rolling out...
I have captured the update.zip OTA ..
Let me know if some needs for research. .
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I think you missed posting in a couple hundred other threads...

Or you can just use viper4android, kill stagefright, and tell Verizon, "Thanks, but no thanks--I'm in this for _me_ now."
I am not entirely sure what that means, but man, the day when this contract ends cannot come soon enough.

What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???

skyhawk21 said:
What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???
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5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?

skyhawk21 said:
What version of android OS are we at now with all these updates? Is it still 5.0???
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Pretty sure it's still 5.0. I don't think the S5 will be getting any more updates, it's at the end of its software cycle since 5.0, this update was only released for the stagefright fix.
AXMWBS said:
5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?
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No. Verizon's own custom OE1 is the reason that it's not rootable. Once you have the OE1 Kernel or higher, you cannot root unless they find another exploit. I doubt they will considering it's an older phone that's already being phased out in terms of support.

AXMWBS said:
5.0.2 I think... but does this mean the OE1 unrootable phone is fixed? Can the G900Vs with this build be rooted now?
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You forgot "Am I currently dreaming? ? Bfkddg? ? "

So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?

AXMWBS said:
So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?
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If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.

ldeveraux said:
If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.
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It does exist, but my phone cant be rooted now...
Which brings me to my next question...
As of today, which Verizon Phones can be rooted still?

AXMWBS said:
So... no carbon rom.... Do I need to take my phone back since I still have about 9 days and get something different, or deal with it...?
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Take it back. You have a "new" phone that basically has no support for it anymore. If you have something to use currently other than the S5, I'd consider waiting till the new Google Nexus 5 or 6 2015 edition coming out this year. That should have root and an unlocked bootloader (Google wouldn't stand for Verizon locking down their phone).
AXMWBS said:
It does exist, but my phone cant be rooted now...
Which brings me to my next question...
As of today, which Verizon Phones can be rooted still?
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You would have to find a phone you like, go to that forum, and check. I believe any phone with an unlocked bootloader can always be rooted? And I'm pretty sure the Google nexus 5/6 (the old ones) will always be rootable.
I'm jumping ship from Samsung (I wanted to move to the Note at one point, but Samsung screwed up big time with their phones trying to make it like an iPhone, and with Samsung/Verizon in bed with locking up root/bootloader).

ldeveraux said:
If it doesn't already exist for this phone, it won't in the future.
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Spartan117H3 said:
Take it back. You have a "new" phone that basically has no support for it anymore. If you have something to use currently other than the S5, I'd consider waiting till the new Google Nexus 5 or 6 2015 edition coming out this year. That should have root and an unlocked bootloader (Google wouldn't stand for Verizon locking down their phone).
You would have to find a phone you like, go to that forum, and check. I believe any phone with an unlocked bootloader can always be rooted? And I'm pretty sure the Google nexus 5/6 (the old ones) will always be rootable.
I'm jumping ship from Samsung (I wanted to move to the Note at one point, but Samsung screwed up big time with their phones trying to make it like an iPhone, and with Samsung/Verizon in bed with locking up root/bootloader).
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What about the HTC One M8 and M9. Are they rootable? I just want to be able to customize more than my wallpaper and font.. I want themes and color schemes and message skins that aren't apps because that drains my battery.

AXMWBS said:
What about the HTC One M8 and M9. Are they rootable? I just want to be able to customize more than my wallpaper and font.. I want themes and color schemes and message skins that aren't apps because that drains my battery.
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There's a search bar at the top of XDA where you can enter a device. It also allows you to specify which carrier as well. This is from the M9 forum. Says you need a JAVA card which is expensive, but it unlocks the phone/allows root. You can also donate (usually $20-60) users to do it for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...t-s-off-how-root-s-off-verizon-m9-20-t3123178
I have no idea about the M8, seems to be the same, have to have S-OFF or whatever the heck that means. Do research yourself if you want the phone.

I don't think I saw anyone ask this yet...
If I'm currently rooted with OE1, can i take this update and stay rooted? or will i loose root and not be able to get root again?
thanks

Del

owenrg said:
I don't think I saw anyone ask this yet...
If I'm currently rooted with OE1, can i take this update and stay rooted? or will i loose root and not be able to get root again?
thanks
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Follow the instructions in muniz_ri's thread. He hasn't released the deodexed version though. You should never take ota when rooted, and you should actually have it disabled as soon as you root. One user reported that they ota updated without losing root, but I'd never recommend it.

There is no benefit in disabling it. You have to authorize any update, so it cannot overwrite it on its own. The only reason to disable it is the popup after an update comes out which can be stopped by deleting the update.zip then having the install fail.

Two or three updates ago, I lost the ability to rotate my screen unless an app forces it to rotate, now with this update my phone no longer reads sd cards, and in fact boot loops if there is one inserted. I've done a lot of searching, both when the initial problem manifested, and now with the new problem, but haven't seen anyone with a fix. Any suggestions?
Verizon sm-g900v, latest update g900vvru2bog5,

Source fom Sammobile, we will get Marshmallow!

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/09/samsung-has-started-working-on-android-6-0-marshmallow-for-these-devices/
Please read the source link

I read that as well, I am curious to see where this will go.... fingers crossed!

It would explain why we haven't received 5.1.1 yet. They may just jump us straight to 6.0 but it also means we will have to choose whether to stay rooted on 5.0 or give up root for 6.0 since it can (currently) only be rooted if you have an unlocked bootloader.

Dudash said:
It would explain why we haven't received 5.1.1 yet. They may just jump us straight to 6.0 but it also means we will have to choose whether to stay rooted on 5.0 or give up root for 6.0 since it can (currently) only be rooted if you have an unlocked bootloader.
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Indeed. Due to selinux (which is a great feature), rooting 5.1.1 or later requires an selinux permissive kernel. Otherwise you end up with a bootloop after rooting. And the only way to get an selinux permissive kernel is to build from samsung sources... basically Samsung has officially defeated root as of Android 5.1.1 with it's heavy integration of KNOX.

Can we'll have root on Android 6.0

Xavie_99 said:
Can we'll have root on Android 6.0
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NO

Thanks
Mmm do you have the update ??

Xavie_99 said:
Thanks
Mmm do you have the update ??
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It was just released for Nexus. Not showing up on this old phone for a looooooong time

Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v

m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v
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WHEN it gets released you will be able to take it via OTA there will be no need to flash. WHEN it gets released you will be free to go to stock no root 6.0

Chopstix9 said:
WHEN it gets released you will be able to take it via OTA there will be no need to flash. WHEN it gets released you will be free to go to stock no root 6.0
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Oh, okay. So I'm waiting for it to come out then I can just download it on my phone, root or not.

m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Can I flash marshmallow w/o root on my sm-g900v
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m0bk3yn1nj4 said:
Oh, okay. So I'm waiting for it to come out then I can just download it on my phone, root or not.
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Yes, but ... if you are rooted and activate sdm to allow the OTA notification and take the OTA, you do it knowing that you are saying goodbye to root, probably for the remaining life of your phone.

I dont think marshmallow has enough in it for me to loose root. lol no thanks

Roll back to LOLLIPOP available?

I'm in the process of temp root to extract boot img for a dev that still does work for our phone. He'll most likely use that to continue development for AutoRec but after I'm done with that I think I'm about done with having nothing available in terms of software on Marshmallow. Considering rolling back to Lollipop. Is it gonna be a pain and are the resources readily available?

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I'm in the process of temp root to extract boot img for a dev that still does work for our phone. He'll most likely use that to continue development for AutoRec but after I'm done with that I think I'm about done with having nothing available in terms of software on Marshmallow. Considering rolling back to Lollipop. Is it gonna be a pain and are the resources readily available?
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I don't think there's any antiroll back. But you can't rollback to lollipop. You'd have to roll back to KitKat and OTA update to lollipop as long as your using an AT&T sim.
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hyelton said:
I don't think there's any antiroll back. But you can't rollback to lollipop. You'd have to roll back to KitKat and OTA update to lollipop as long as your using an AT&T sim.
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If I click OTA update then it'll bring me all the way back up to Marshmallow though right? What would make it stop at Lollipop?

jlgarr86 said:
If I click OTA update then it'll bring me all the way back up to Marshmallow though right? What would make it stop at Lollipop?
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If it does bring you all the way back to MM then you'd have to flash a custom lollipop rom then.
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hyelton said:
If it does bring you all the way back to MM then you'd have to flash a custom lollipop rom then.
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You seem like you know you're stuff so let me ask you something. If there's no perm root for Marshmallow why are people still making Marshmallow ROMs? What's the benefit in running a custom ROM with no recovery, backups or root permission?

you NEED root and recovery to load custom roms. people make marshmallow roms because they're tried/true/stable. the OTA updates happen in stages. at&t has no single large update that brings you from KK straight to MM, you have a couple updates in-between though not sure how many... at least one!
@hyelton - is there no root for stock MM yet or do I have to downgrade using LG tool in windows then root?

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you NEED root and recovery to load custom roms. people make marshmallow roms because they're tried/true/stable. the OTA updates happen in stages. at&t has no single large update that brings you from KK straight to MM, you have a couple updates in-between though not sure how many... at least one!
@hyelton - is there no root for stock MM yet or do I have to downgrade using LG tool in windows then root?
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You would first have to downgrade using LGUP. There's no root for MM
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Question New 7Pro - advice on how to proceed with rooting?

Hello!
Just got my 7P from the Black Friday sale (I'm in Europe so a friend who was flying in got it for me).
Still haven't turned it on. Question: should I update first, then root? Or root first, then update?
Maybe it's a silly question and the answer is "update first because updating will remove rooting anyhow", but I don't know if they have maybe changed something lately and rooting is more difficult or whatever...
Thanks!

Yu can always update your phone, some you will, before and after root

So if it's all the same I guess I'll update first or I'll have to re-root...

You can update to beta & then root. No worries. However, If you want to install a custom rom, you may want to stay on 12 until checking the requirements of the ROM.

Wi1son said:
You can update to beta & then root. No worries. However, If you want to install a custom rom, you may want to stay on 12 until checking the requirements of the ROM.
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The Pixel 7 series came with Android 13 so there is no Android 12 for this device.
krakout said:
So if it's all the same I guess I'll update first or I'll have to re-root...
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If you want to update while keep root you can use Pixel Flasher.

i gonna suggest to disable dm-verity at the first time as well, so if in the future you opt to use custom kernel (which i think, you should) you wont need to wipe your phone

Lughnasadh said:
The Pixel 7 series came with Android 13 so there is no Android 12 for this device.
If you want to update while keep root you can use Pixel Flasher.
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That's what I knew, but @Wi1son reminded me to enroll for betas
Thanks for mentioning Pixel Flasher, didn't know about it - sounds great!!

Lughnasadh said:
The Pixel 7 series came with Android 13 so there is no Android 12 for this device.
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Oh yeah, meant some ROMs require the November update and aren't ready for the December update

Yeah, custom ROMs lie in the future for now... but coming from OnePlus I am familiar with official ROM/fw requirements for them, thanks!

I've got one too in the last week ..Been so long and never had a pixel so I'm afraid to try it ..Need a new kernel ,only getting 4-5 SOT ..

kenbrownstone said:
I've got one too in the last week ..Been so long and never had a pixel so I'm afraid to try it ..Need a new kernel ,only getting 4-5 SOT ..
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What version are you on?

krakout said:
What version are you on?
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Running newest beta just released ..I got pixel to root and stuff..Phones are boring now ..But I gotta figure it out soon as I get time .Just haven't had time yet

When I got mine, before I even inserted the SIM, I connected to WiFi and updated Android and Google Play, then I inserted the SIM, ran through the setup quickly, unlocked bootloader, rebooted and rooted using Pixel Flasher, wiping Veritas and Verification. That way for any future updates, I would be set to flash with PF, moving forward and that has been very simple

Thanks, awesome. Sounds like a great tool, wish there was something like that for OnePlus!