UFS Storage? - Honor 8 Questions & Answers

Does anyone know if the Honor 8 has UFS storage on board like the Galaxy S7 ?

djibril13 said:
Does anyone know if the Honor 8 has UFS storage on board like the Galaxy S7 ?
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No. As for now only the latest Samsung flagships has it.
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The One Plus 3 and Axon 7 have UFS 2.0 I'm pretty sure. The Honor 8 has some of the fastest App start up times and 4K random read & write speeds though which tend to be more important to the actual user experience (presumably due to larger/more aggressive file caching in RAM and firmware optimizations respectively). http://www.anandtech.com/show/10678/the-huawei-honor-8-review/7

evilpaul13 said:
The One Plus 3 and Axon 7 have UFS 2.0 I'm pretty sure. The Honor 8 has some of the fastest App start up times and 4K random read & write speeds though which tend to be more important to the actual user experience (presumably due to larger/more aggressive file caching in RAM and firmware optimizations respectively). http://www.anandtech.com/show/10678/the-huawei-honor-8-review/7
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As far as I rembember, OP3 and Axon 7 came out before UFS.
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The OP3 has it https://oneplus.net/3/specs

evilpaul13 said:
The OP3 has it https://oneplus.net/3/specs
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Just checked it. You were right. Thanks for the clarification buddy.
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MI5 also do have UFS support.
But Huawei P9 too lacks in UFS

I'm not sure about the P9, but in practice without a USB 3.0 data connection (the Honor 8 has USB 2 transfer speeds from its USB3 Type C connector), the only thing you would probably notice a difference on the H8 versus devices with UFS 2.0 would be copying (not moving) a file from internal storage to internal storage (i.e. making a duplicate). Even with 90-95MB/s rated SD cards sequential transfers shouldn't bottlenecked. The 64GB Samsung Pro+ card I'm using only hits 75MB/reads and 90MB/s writes (why are writes higher?) according to the few tests I've run.
That said, I'd still wish the Honor 8 had UFS anyway just because.

evilpaul13 said:
I'm not sure about the P9, but in practice without a USB 3.0 data connection (the Honor 8 has USB 2 transfer speeds from its USB3 Type C connector), the only thing you would probably notice a difference on the H8 versus devices with UFS 2.0 would be copying (not moving) a file from internal storage to internal storage (i.e. making a duplicate). Even with 90-95MB/s rated SD cards sequential transfers shouldn't bottlenecked. The 64GB Samsung Pro+ card I'm using only hits 75MB/reads and 90MB/s writes (why are writes higher?) according to the few tests I've run.
That said, I'd still wish the Honor 8 had UFS anyway just because.
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It snapped into me. I was talking about the UFS SD card slot earlier. Haha.
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Those I really am looking forward to. Adoptable Storage and Link2SD sort of stuff would be great with good transfer speeds.

evilpaul13 said:
Those I really am looking forward to. Adoptable Storage and Link2SD sort of stuff would be great with good transfer speeds.
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I agree. I am using Link2SD since it was around.
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[Q] 32gb Patriot class4 mSDHC uber slow

anyone else having problems with the memory card having super slow under 300kbps transfer rate when copying files via USB from PC to the O3D in USB mode
xtian63 said:
anyone else having problems with the memory card having super slow under 300kbps transfer rate when copying files via USB from PC to the O3D in USB mode
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Have both a Samsung 32gb class10 and a made in China 16gb class10 and they both are very fast, would even guess that the Chinese one is a bit faster.
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hehe that didnt really answer my question >.<
Well, the reason may due to your handset, I used to had a motor atrix with class 4 and I can get 5 mb/s via usb . But for my optimus 3d only maximum to 4mb/s even with class 10. It got to be your hardware or firmware restricting it.
pennzoilgtr said:
Well, the reason may due to your handset, I used to had a motor atrix with class 4 and I can get 5 mb/s via usb . But for my optimus 3d only maximum to 4mb/s even with class 10. It got to be your hardware or firmware restricting it.
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im using the v10d, my unit isnt an Anycall but the box says its made in korea
problem solved, formatted via Windows 7 and now im getting up to 4mbps write speeds
i forgot to mention i used to use it on my Samsun Focus and used an N9 to format and forgot to format it via windows
xtian63 said:
problem solved, formatted via Windows 7 and now im getting up to 4mbps write speeds
i forgot to mention i used to use it on my Samsun Focus and used an N9 to format and forgot to format it via windows
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actually using the phone to do the format would be better as it automatically chooses the best cluster size for use with android system. well it all depends on the contains you going to throw in too, to determine the best cluster size.
pennzoilgtr said:
actually using the phone to do the format would be better as it automatically chooses the best cluster size for use with android system. well it all depends on the contains you going to throw in too, to determine the best cluster size.
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thats the other strange thing, after the nokia n9 format i formatted it on the o3d a few times but still was 300kbps tops on Write speeds, it only got to 4mbps after the Windows 7 format

Best way to expand storage?

Never bought a Nexus before because of the lack of a micro SD card port. I was hoping some of the most recent rumors were true about the Nexus 9 having on but no joy. I will be buyingone though because I have got to tryTegra K1 64 bit and lollipop. Anyone ever try to expand storage on the Nexus 7 2 gen? What did you use? What about a WiFi external hard drive? I am open to any and all solutions.
I use a Corsair Flash Voyager Go usb stick with 64GB storage. It burst writes pretty good, so files under 60MB get written on it pretty much in an instant.
Larger files make the drive heat up pretty fast, and after about 30 minutes the write speed is down to 25MB/s.
If you use Win, the next part won't interest you: I formatted the drive into ext4, so I can store files >4GB on it. It performs better than NTFS or exFAT (exFAT is a pain in the foot!) but a little worse than FAT32 for whatever reason.
There are other comparable products out there, like the one from TeamGroup (M132, IIRC). The differences are marginal - I bought the cheapest.
That's what I am going to use otg with my 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card
@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
lartomar2002 said:
@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
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http://www.amazon.com/Corsair-Voyag...G-64GB-NA/dp/B00HVT27B8/ref=pd_rhf_gw_p_img_3
how are you going to use this with a card? Doesn't it have it's own storage?
lartomar2002 said:
how are you going to use this with a card? Doesn't it have it's own storage?
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No need for a card. This is the OTG and the flash drive all in one
I asked because in post #3 you said you were going to use otg with your 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card. That is were I became confused.
lartomar2002 said:
I asked because in post #3 you said you were going to use otg with your 64gb Samsung class 10 micro SD card. That is were I became confused.
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I was not post #3
lartomar2002 said:
@MRobbo80, which otg are you going to use with your card? I have a 64gb Sandisk 10 uhs-1.
Would something like this work, http://www.amazon.com/Leef-microSD-microUSB-Connector-Android/dp/B00J2D7R20/ref=pd_cp_pc_3
Do I need to be concerned about weather the card reader/write is either a USB 2.0 or 3.0?
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No, don't be concerned. It does not matter. USB2 can, with some controllers, reach over 25MB/s, which is more than you'll have with your micro sd card.
But I would not spend more than 2 bucks on it. Aliexpress has some better offers.
They don't live for long. I used this setup for quite a while, but after 4 months tops they died.
I would go for the Corsair Flash Voyager Go. Better r/w speeds, better support, etc.
Cheers!
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.
Aredubu said:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.
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I use this too. It works great on my LG G2 and I'll be using it with my N9
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Aredubu said:
http://www.meenova.com/st/p/m3r.html
I use this with a 128gb microsd card.
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GalaxyWhy said:
I use this too. It works great on my LG G2 and I'll be using it with my N9
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Where do I buy this? any notable delays with it?
Meenova.com
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http://www.meenova.com
Came pretty quick from memory, bought mine like 6 months ago
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tyvar1 said:
Where do I buy this? any notable delays with it?
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If you do buy it, keep in mind that they're really easy to bump and disrupt the connection
Aredubu said:
Meenova.com
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GalaxyWhy said:
http://www.meenova.com
Came pretty quick from memory, bought mine like 6 months ago
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Didn't saw the purchase tab, sorry
It says speed:, 45 MB/s read, 41 MB/s write
My sd card is 80 MB/s read, 50MB/s write.
Sooo glad I came across this topic post, definitely going with the 16gb nexus 9 now considering my college budget.
MetTrax said:
Sooo glad I came across this topic post, definitely going with the 16gb nexus 9 now considering my college budget.
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How will you expand the storage?
Use a Meenova, OTG, or flash drive.
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MicroSD speed and the M9 RAW?

I just tested my Sandisk Ultra 16gb with the RAW option of camera, well while it takes only 3 seconds to save using internal memory, with the MicroSD Sandisk Ultra it takes 6 to 9 seconds!!!
The writing speed is about 10-15mb/s with the Ultra.
I was going to buy a 64gb card Ultra but when I saw how slow it works with the RAW (and perhaps 4K recording) I think it will be better to buy a 32GB Samsung Pro that would give 75 to 80mb/s .
What do you think?
Anyone using a Sandisk Extreme or Samsung Pro MicroSD on their M9?
vegetaleb said:
I just tested my Sandisk Ultra 16gb with the RAW option of camera, well while it takes only 3 seconds to save using internal memory, with the MicroSD Sandisk Ultra it takes 6 to 9 seconds!!!
The writing speed is about 10-15mb/s with the Ultra.
I was going to buy a 64gb card Ultra but when I saw how slow it works with the RAW (and perhaps 4K recording) I think it will be better to buy a 32GB Samsung Pro that would give 75 to 80mb/s .
What do you think?
Anyone using a Sandisk Extreme or Samsung Pro MicroSD on their M9?
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I have Samsung pro 64GB, Raw 1sec, 4K no problem at all, real speed in write going till 74, read 82
I have the SanDisk Extreme Pro 64GB just give me Read @ 90.56MB/s @ Write @ 81.18MB/s from the phone and speeds were similar using USB 3.0 to test the card on my PC before using it in the phone. I used A1 SD Bench from the play store to test it from the phone.
I haven't paid attention to the RAW files yet.
Wow nice!
Looks like it's faster than the internal memory.
I will get a 32gb Pro then
Well the speed I got for the internal memory was 215MB/s for read and 111MB/s for write.
vegetaleb said:
Anyone using a Sandisk Extreme or Samsung Pro MicroSD on their M9?
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A1 SD Bench says Read is 44MB/s Write is 42 MB/s on my Sandisk Extreme 64GB.
I think I have a 64GB Samsung Evo in my RaspberryPi2, I'll test that later.
BenPope said:
A1 SD Bench says Read is 44MB/s Write is 42 MB/s on my Sandisk Extreme 64GB.
I think I have a 64GB Samsung Evo in my RaspberryPi2, I'll test that later.
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Can you test Raw capture timing?
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I've Samsung Pro 64GB , i got read 70MB/s write 30MB/s
on the package it was read 90mb/s write 80mb/s
so anyone gets different result with Samsung Pro Sd ?
MPooZD said:
I've Samsung Pro 64GB , i got read 70MB/s write 30MB/s
on the package it was read 90mb/s write 80mb/s
so anyone gets different result with Samsung Pro Sd ?
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Perhaps a corrupted card?
My Sandisk was supposed to be 12mb/s but the best it can get is 5mb/s write!!!
Defective cards are numerous
I think I will get a Samsung Evo 64GB
Go with 64gb Sandisk Extreme. Speeds are 95 mb/s read and 90mb/s write.
Bought a PNY Turbo 64gb but I wont get it before the 8th, it should have the speed as the Extreme
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vegetaleb said:
Bought a PNY Turbo 64gb but I wont get it before the 8th, it should have the speed as the Extreme
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Why even ask for suggestions if you just get something totally different? We even posted real results on our cards.
Well amazon changed prices the day I did my order, sh*t happens
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What a waste of time reading this thread. Some people
i bought this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239996
So far so good! love the speeds! i get slightly higher than advertised.
vegetaleb said:
Bought a PNY Turbo 64gb but I wont get it before the 8th, it should have the speed as the Extreme
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So how did this card work out for you?
feralicious said:
So how did this card work out for you?
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Very satisfied!
Very fast with raw.
Now using it in my G4.
I highly recommend it
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SD storage capacity

Has anyone tried a 256gb sd card with this phone? Or is 128gb really the maximum?
im guessing 128gb is just the cited max since larger sized sd cards arent really common yet
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Hi,
The maximum capacity of micro SD is "200" GB.
Although on eBay there're some 256GB of them, all of them are FAKE.
I use 200GB microSD on my NXT-AL10. Nothing to say correctly working.
ttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/CZ8HqEHUMAEB1mM.jpg
Because I'm a new user, I can't post the link.
i figured smth like that, but its good to have confirmation from a user i think once 256gb cards become available theyll also work just fine on the mate 8
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jbmc83 said:
i figured smth like that, but its good to have confirmation from a user i think once 256gb cards become available theyll also work just fine on the mate 8
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Yeah, I meant to say 200gb. I'm used to capacities increasing by increments of 16, 32 or 64gb.
Good to know it's working! Thanks.
Can't wait for the 500gb.... Not a cloud user.
same here, just use the cloud to provide files in forums
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any one tried yet? bigger than 128gb on Mate 8?
Got 128 GB, seems enough with 32 ROM... Got everything i need here
s4siddiqui said:
any one tried yet? bigger than 128gb on Mate 8?
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um yes, check post no. 3 in this very thread....
SanDisk Ultra 200GB microSDXC up to 90 MB / sec, Class 10 on a Huawei NXT-L29 with KangVip works perfectly...

So does our Mate 9 really use UFS 2.1 after P10 ram component lottery?

So the P10 apparently uses different components​ for memory which results in different speeds during use. Lots of people complaining.
The Mate 9 is advertised as using the faster UFS 2.1 memory. Is this the case of are we being made a fool of too?
Install A1 SD Bench and tap internal SD card for a quick bench.
Post your result to check consistency. One of the attached photos shows a high read result 358mb. That was taken from this video:
My result is significantly lower 179mb (see other photo).
What's your result?
tboy2000 said:
So the P10 apparently uses different components​ for memory which results in different speeds during use. Lots of people complaining.
The Mate 9 is advertised as using the faster UFS 2.1 memory. Is this the case of are we being made a fool of too?
Install A1 SD Bench and tap internal SD card for a quick bench.
Post your result to check consistency. One of the attached photos shows a high read result 358mb. That was taken from this video:
My result is significantly lower 179mb (see other photo).
What's your result?
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eMMC / ufs lottery seems to be an extremely stupid move by Huawei.. Especially since they are trying to better establish their brand name
But nothing new though, there is:
Sharp/Samsung/JDI Panel lottery on even the most expensive and high performing Samsung TVs
Hynix/ Samsung/ micron memory lottery on Nvidia gpus
Explosive battery lottery on note 7
Sudden death lottery on note 2
Bootloop lottery on LG g4
Just goes to show that being an early adopter really makes no sense in most cases
Still happy with my mate
But appalled that Huawei would risk their name just to keep up supply
Mine is 314,6 read, write 124.2
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I am so appalled by this. I hate when companies are making falls promises.
I see most of us get speeds around 350mbps. In the P10 articles, they are using the AndroBench app an there the threshold for UFS 2.1 is around 700mbps.
Reading speeds of my Mate 9 in AndroBench are around 550 mbps. Go figure...
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I am getting ~590 read in androbench as well.
I was debating between this and s8+ and just ordered mate 9 couple of days ago but now debating whether to keep it or return it. Had mate 8 which I really liked.
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I am getting too about 590 in androbench app. I been reading somewhere that UFS 2.1 should get above 700 in androbench app. I don't know what to think now ?
These are what I got
interesting, way higher than most here on reading but half as slow in writing lol
331 and 118 for me
This is getting more and more suspicious. Now Huawei have removed mentions of UFS 2.1 memory on the Mate 9 product page!
Android Authority has an article on it.
I for one am selling this phone and steering clear of Huawei for the foreseeable future.
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MaTiCeK- said:
This is getting more and more suspicious. Now Huawei have removed mentions of UFS 2.1 memory on the Mate 9 product page!
Android Authority has an article on it.
I for one am selling this phone and steering clear of Huawei for the foreseeable future.
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Keeping mine I think.
It's the same phone that I was happy with yesterday before I saw the news. It's still a step up from my OnePlus 3
I'll keep my eye open and never buy anything at launch though.
I should have said I was thinking about switching anyway...
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MaTiCeK- said:
This is getting more and more suspicious. Now Huawei have removed mentions of UFS 2.1 memory on the Mate 9 product page!
Android Authority has an article on it.
I for one am selling this phone and steering clear of Huawei for the foreseeable future.
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This is really sad news. I love my Mate 9 but I feel really cheated. I will be honest the specs including the inclusion of UFS 2.1 memory was a huge selling point. It's also why I haven't put a micro SD card in my phone and am using the internal storage only as I thought it would be the fastest. Don't know what to think especially with my poor results in the OP.
@tboy2000 i totally agree!
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Despite being under 700 in read (more like ufs2.0 590), this is the fastest phone i've ever used.
Feeling like you have to question the legitimacy of what you paid for though is no fun..
Wait and don't sell Mate 9 !
Are you really trust to Androbench where sample file is too small to show accurate results?
What is purpose of using it? Does it show real type of hardware? No! It just reads sample and measures speed, but it does mean nothing.
Is anybody know right method to test f2fs with his caching and optimizations? I think "simple read" is not right there.
MaTiCeK- said:
This is getting more and more suspicious. Now Huawei have removed mentions of UFS 2.1 memory on the Mate 9 product page!
Android Authority has an article on it.
I for one am selling this phone and steering clear of Huawei for the foreseeable future.
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Darn! So Huawei is playing the UFS lottery on the Mate 9 as well? Is there nothing sacred?! I feel quite disappointed right now.
As a Chinese. I feel so ashame. I hope they will make detail explaination and apologies. I like this phone alot but this is not acceptable.

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