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Hi,
I'm considering purchasing the android dev phone since I'm not on the t-mobile network and need the phone w/o a contract. I'm aware that the latest version of the dev phone allows you to install paid apps, but not locked apps.
My question is, is there any way to convert my dev phone to an (unlocked) t-mobile image so that it will support paid and locked apps?
Please excuse me in case my question hasn't been framed properly or if it has been asked before, I'm new to these forums and the whole G1 bit.
Thanks in advance.
I'm also curious about a similar question, which is precisely the opposite:
I have a Tmobile phone, running JF1.42. If I change my firmware to ADP1.1, is that going to cause me to not be able to view locked apps on the market?
If you purchase the Android Developer Phone, yes you can flash it to the T-Mobile firmware (search forums for downgrading to RC29 using DREAIMG.NBH and etc) and no, this will not affect your unlock. The unlock is at a separate level (research baseband, and cellphone unlocking).
If you change your T-Mobile G1 to the ADP1 image, yes, you will lose paid apps in the market. Google is blocking the ADP images from accessing the paid apps. (from what i've been told this is done through a user-agent check, and not device id, although i could be wrong).
Hope this helps you guys out
Only protected Apps are not accessible by Dev phones.
Not all paid Apps are protected, only few paid Apps are protected.
As you can see from my sign., I have a T-Mobile G1 phone with a mod Dev firmware. I can buy applications, however, I can't even see protected Apps.
One more question based on this. I've been reading through the forums and I've read that the dev phone comes with a DEV SPL. So basically I wanted to clarify that, the SPL doesn't matter if it is DEV/HARD. I can install the RC33 image by doing the whole RC29 downgrade, etc?
Probably way off here, but if anyone can point me in the right direction. Basically what I'm trying to do is, purchase a dev phone, get the latest rc series on it (and hopefully receive OTA updates). Or is getting OTA updates a bad idea? and I should continue to manually update the image as and when new ones are released?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there. First of all I'm sorry if this is not the right place to post this.
Anyway, someone I know bought an used iPhone 6 only to discover that it's somehow an Android device heavily modded (it looks like an iPhone 6 on the outside, which is an issue because it doesn't have the three buttons the android apps are meant use). I'm not even sure if it's possible to make this usable, the iOS stuff is glitchy and Android apps don't seem to work that well either.
I'm not really a developer but I play around with Tasker/xposed and stuff so when I realized there wasn't an actual shortcut for the android settings (I can only access the iOS version of the settings, which the factory reset doesn't seem to be working), I decided to download the trial version of Tasker and see what I could fiddle so I could find out how this was done. On my first try I couldn't find a thing and now Tasker keeps crashing, I can't keep it open long enough to enable logging.
The root seems to have been made using the kingroot app (evidenced by the KingUser, which was the only thing I could find). Removing root access doesn't seem to do a thing.
Sooo... I've ran out of options and decided to post it here as a far cry for help. I realize I have not given you much and more info is probably required, but I'm not sure how to acquire it. The "About phone" on the menu doesn't give me much, device name is Android, Carrier is unknown and Version is 8.1.2 (12A405). Model number is MG492CH/A.
Thanks for your help and I'm sorry I couldn't provide any more useful information.
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. A goggle search of your model number shows it as an iphone clone. It doesn't surprise me that it uses Android as iOS would be next to impossible obtain. But the bad news is there is no information on XDA about your device. The closest I could find was this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2778862 To return to stock you'd need the android factory image for your phone and a method to flash it. Both would be specific to the phone. The only other thing I can suggest is to ask in this forum, http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/help
So I was going to contact people in TWRP about making TWRP recovery for this phone, then I realized that we probably will need to have some factory images lying around in case I break something, I can restore the phone in the mean time.
I checked the Razer website for these images and they are no where to be found. I thought, they have to provide these, this phone isn't even tied to a carrier. What if something happened to the OS files and became corrupt? How could I restore the phone?
This is the reason google provides factory images for their phones. I know Razer is new to the phone market and they are learning the requirements, but this is kind of a big oversight.
I contacted Razer support, and the conversation went like this:
Support:
Welcome to Razer Support, my name is <redacted> Please hold for a few moments while I review your inquiry. For quality assurance purposes, you may be selected to receive a survey regarding your service experience.
Thank you. Your case number is <redacted> . Please save it as a reference for this chat session.
What questions do you have about the Razer phone?
Me
I have one in hand, and was trying to secure a factory image for the phone in the event that something were to happen to it software wise, I could restore the phone. I could not find the location of the factory image of the phone anywhere on the razer site. Where is this located?
Support
The factory reset would reset your phone back to when you first got it. I would recommend you to save your files on the SD card. When doing a factory reset, remove the SD card so the files save on it won't be erased.
Me
A factory reset only works in the event the OS is in tact. If something were to happen to the OS files itself, it would require a factory image reflash in download mode.
Where can I obtain the factory image. Since this phone is not tied to a carrier, you must provide this file. I cannot simply go into a phone store and have them reflash the phone.
Support:
Let me check if we have that.
Me
Ok, thanks
Support
Thanks for waiting. Upon checking, we do not have a factory image available yet. All downloadable software for the phone should be available in the phone's webpage in the future.
Me
That is a generalized answer. Specifically, Does this include the Factory Images?
I do not want to wait for them to put the factory images up on the website to only find out that they will not make that specific image available later.
Support
We do not have information yet on what software will be available for download in the future. Since we do not have the factory image available, we cannot tell when and if it would be available.
Me
Who would have that information?
Is there someone I can call directly?
Support
Our developers would have that information but unfortunately, we do not have their contact information. We are only informed through the website.
Me
Ok, thanks, well I'll have to find their contact information and give them a ring.
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So clearly a cop out. They don't know in support where the factory images are? Come on, you're support, it's one of the main things you should know the location of. So I don't know if Razer is planning to release the factory images or not, but I imagine they will have to unless they suspect we will be RMA'ing the devices everytime someone jacks up the phone software. I know it's their first Foray into the phone market, so maybe they forgot to add the factory images? The fact that he clued me into the developers knowing the answer to that means he knows something but isn't maybe allowed to tell us.
If someone gets the factory image or developers contact information, please post it here, I'll be happy to make the calls.
Factory images will come eventually many companies wait a while before posting them in case of major bugs are found. Look at the essential it just recently released factory images and it's been out since august
Thats understandable.. You dont normally get the images on the first few months of release. It depends on razer when this will be out much like the essential brand
I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
I have the phone I just picked one up at Microsoft if someone could tell me how to make a recovery image I would be happy to upload it.
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I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
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Coming from the v20, and guess who I see. Although as you stated you don't have the device, still excited what you'll bring to this device. As soon as mine is not stuck in customs I'd be glad to get you anything you need from the device or test anything you put together.
Same here, customs just released them but I do imaging at work. Easy peezy
I just want to get rid of this Three logo on boot lol
Hi, since I am starting my own company I have been in contact with many other companies lately, I came across your thread and decided to ask Razer, they got in contact with their devs and gave me a call back a few days later and said to be rest assured the factory images will be posted within a few weeks just like the Nextbit Robin.
Link for Images
Sorry, was wrong images.
I wondered ?
Was gonna say that was real fast!
Support says they know but won't tell coz "policy"
jcadduono said:
I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
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Is there any other way of porting over twrp without the kernel sources?
I have this device and consider my self some what of an experienced flasher.
I'd be willing to test your custom recovery .img if your able to put something together.
I do have a back up phone I could use while I wait for Razer to release the Recovery Images just in case my RP goes down.
I have a very bad feeling we won't get these for a while look at essential for example it took them months to release them. I mean razer have released nothing yet at all (which they have to do iirc)
Roxas598 said:
I have a very bad feeling we won't get these for a while look at essential for example it took them months to release them. I mean razer have released nothing yet at all (which they have to do iirc)
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I would assume they are holding back the images cause they are still patching software to fix the issues at launch like camera quality, etc. They have already indicated there was a couple more patches coming.. I would assume they don't wanna release images of the phone in its current state because of it and will make them available in the next few weeks after they get there stuff fixed a bit.. Just my 2 cents
I just got off the online chat with Razer support - here is the transcript.
Mobile Support (10:17:40 PM):Welcome to Razer Support, my name is Zilpah A. Please hold for a few moments while I review your inquiry. For quality assurance purposes, you may be selected to receive a survey regarding your service experience.
Mobile Support (10:17:49 PM):Hi there!
Me (10:18:33 PM):Hello - have the engineers decided when the factory images for the razer phone will be online for download?
Mobile Support (10:18:58 PM):Before we proceed, please confirm if the following information are correct:
Name: *********
E-mail: *********
Me (10:19:14 PM):yes that's me
Mobile Support (10:19:27 PM):Thank you! Please take note of your case number for future reference, 1471282.
Mobile Support (10:19:46 PM):How may I assist you today?
Me (10:20:09 PM)o you know when factory images of the razer phone will be online for download?
Mobile Support (10:21:51 PM)lease give me 2 minutes to check on your concern, okay?
Me (10:21:57 PM):sure
Mobile Support (10:23:03 PM):Thanks.
Mobile Support (10:24:17 PM):*******, are you referring to the source code of the phone?
Me (10:24:24 PM):yes
Mobile Support (10:27:54 PM):Regarding this, we have reached out to our Engineering team and confirmed that the source code will be made publicly available via our support web site by December 15.
Mobile Support (10:28:23 PM):Upon release, we will make sure to inform you and provide you with the link.
Me (10:28:53 PM)K thank you so much - any way you can e-mail me a transcript of this online chat?
Mobile Support (10:30:24 PM):You're welcome. Actually, there is an option for you to save it before ending the chat session.
Me (10:30:42 PM)k thanks a lot - that is all I needed
Mobile Support (10:31:36 PM):My pleasure!
So it seems like December 15th is the magic day for us!!!!
Damn, came to check if it's getting any dev support.
But from the looks of it, I will have to wait and see before getting this phone.
Still that Razer support conversation makes me hold off on getting the device. Hope they did not contract some third party to make the phone and have little control over it.
comscier said:
Hope they did not contract some third party to make the phone and have little control over it.
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Razer bought Nextbit and that team made the phone. They have full control and hopefully will release the factory image in the coming weeks.
2 days!
Maybe, if they don't back out
Hey guys, Im fairly new to this Note 20 Ultra and Android in general so I decided to ask this here but wasn't sure if I should make a separate topic for each anyways here we go I hope you can help me out:
1. How can I make it so when I receive text messages, notifications, etc... the phone screen turn on like iPhones?
2. I'm using Google Maps for navigation but it seems to be running at a very low FPS and it's not smooth at all, is there a way to make it run smoother/higher frame rate?
3. Whats the best way to fully format and reinstall the firmware on my Note 20 Ultra ( I have the unlocked US version purchased directly from Samsung )/ for reference I know I can do a reset from the settings but I wanna know if there is a way to hook it up to PC and have the phone completely wiped and install a fresh OS like I used be able to do on iPhone.
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Hey guys, Im fairly new to this Note 20 Ultra and Android in general so I decided to ask this here but wasn't sure if I should make a separate topic for each anyways here we go I hope you can help me out:
1. How can I make it so when I receive text messages, notifications, etc... the phone screen turn on like iPhones?
2. I'm using Google Maps for navigation but it seems to be running at a very low FPS and it's not smooth at all, is there a way to make it run smoother/higher frame rate?
3. Whats the best way to fully format and reinstall the firmware on my Note 20 Ultra ( I have the unlocked US version purchased directly from Samsung )/ for reference I know I can do a reset from the settings but I wanna know if there is a way to hook it up to PC and have the phone completely wiped and install a fresh OS like I used be able to do on iPhone.
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1: look into option within settings for edge lighting.
2: download maps locally to speed things up.
3: don't bother.
4: research the xda forums.
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1: look into option within settings for edge lighting.
2: download maps locally to speed things up.
3: don't bother.
4: research the xda forums.
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Thanks for taking the time to reply at least but:
1. Already have edge lightning which is not what i was asking: ( Turn the screen on when receiving txt messages )
2. done that as well, doesn't fix the low sub 30 fps issue. looking for any hidden settings/mods to get higher fps in Maps
3. honestly that was not helpful, I'm simply asking what's the best way to go about it, not bothering is simply wasn't what I was looking for.
4. again thanks for taking the time none the less.
1. For this I use a third party app as the Note 20 does not have anymore the notification LED. This app is called aodNotify (from Play Store) and it has option to wake up the screen when a notification arives.
The phone itself does not have such an option, it has something else called "lift to wake" that will wake the screen if you pick it up from where it was standing....but that's regardless if you get a notification or not
2. Dunno what to say here, Maps works fine for me. Maybe reinstall the app, wipe its cache, things like this. But I presume you already tried these
3. Download your official firmware either from Sammobile site or using a tool like Frija, Samfirm (is deprecated) and such, then write the firmware on your phone using Odin. This will ensure you won't trigger Knox and that you'll have official firmware written as new
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I-Siamak-I said:
Hey guys, Im fairly new to this Note 20 Ultra and Android in general so I decided to ask this here but wasn't sure if I should make a separate topic for each anyways here we go I hope you can help me out:
1. How can I make it so when I receive text messages, notifications, etc... the phone screen turn on like iPhones?
2. I'm using Google Maps for navigation but it seems to be running at a very low FPS and it's not smooth at all, is there a way to make it run smoother/higher frame rate?
3. Whats the best way to fully format and reinstall the firmware on my Note 20 Ultra ( I have the unlocked US version purchased directly from Samsung )/ for reference I know I can do a reset from the settings but I wanna know if there is a way to hook it up to PC and have the phone completely wiped and install a fresh OS like I used be able to do on iPhone.
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Welcome to the forums, welcome to Android, and welcome to the Note family!!
To start off with, there's going to be hiccups switching platforms. Apple and Android do the same things, but for different people. Apple just works, but it's the same experience across every device. Android requires some tinkering and customization, but the beauty is you CAN do that.
And some people just can't make the switch, and that's cool. I left Android for Apple years ago, but after months of trying to make it like my Android, I realized that was stupid and switched back to Android and never looked back. Then there's some people who switch platforms and love it. Then there's others who carry and Apple in one pocket, and an Android in the other, because they appreciate the differences.
1. I second AOD notify. I love that app and have used it on my Note 10, my Note 20, and plan to see if it works on the Z Fold 2 when it arrives next week. It can mimic the LED notification light, wake your screen, etc. Also, remember you have an Always On Display that will show all notifications without turning on the screen. I know that's not what you asked, but OPTIONS.
2. Do you have the adaptive refresh rate on? My Google Maps has never been choppy. My work phone used to be an Apple, but I don't remember it having smoother navigation than my Android. I wish I could see your two phones side by side to see what you mean.
3. We don't have iTunes, so you have to do a little more research and work, but we do have an equivalent for reinstalling the factory firmware. For Pixels it's a few command line commands. For Samsung, it's using a Windows application called ODIN.
I say this not to be lazy, but because it will genuinely help you way more...but use the search bar and do some research here. Also check out the the other Galaxy forums (S series, Note 10, even Note 9 and 8). You'll find many tutorials on how to flash the firmware with ODIN. More in depth than I could ever type here. I think I even wrote a guide back in the Note 8 days and posted it here.
But honestly, 99.9% of the time, flashing the firmware isn't necessary and is a waste of time. But, if you want to do it, you can!
The learning this new platform will be fun if you really dive in and start reading and learning. We were all new to Android one time as well. Some of us old farts, like me, came Blackberry and have been doing this for a while. Some people tend to forget they were new once too.
Search, read, then ask questions, and you'll be fine. Welcome!!
Experienced heartbreak in purchasing slider & flip phones off of eBay, which worked for seller only days before, but then learning that Verizon will not activate any new lines for 3G, slider, flip, CDMA devices. This has always been a great way to give kids a first phone, a phone that will only do call & text. So, turned to old family inventory or new companies that specialize in a modern phone with internet or social media interaction. Enter Gabb Wireless or Pinwheel. Landed on Gabb Wireless, but my bride wants me to try to mod an old Verizon bone stock Galaxy S5. Of course...& I'm sure many of you have been there...some guy we know was able to do it with his kid's phone...so now I should be able to do it. Never mind this guy is a software dev and most likely using an iOS phone. So, gauntlet thrown down, challenge issued. I've been doing a lot of digging & don't know if this can be done with this build. Here's what we have:
G900V, bone stock Verizon
Build number = MMB29M.G900VVRU2DQL1
Security patch level = 8/1/17
Let me know if any other specs would be helpful.
Thank you kindly.
EternalWorth said:
Experienced heartbreak in purchasing slider & flip phones off of eBay, which worked for seller only days before, but then learning that Verizon will not activate any new lines for 3G, slider, flip, CDMA devices. This has always been a great way to give kids a first phone, a phone that will only do call & text. So, turned to old family inventory or new companies that specialize in a modern phone with internet or social media interaction. Enter Gabb Wireless or Pinwheel. Landed on Gabb Wireless, but my bride wants me to try to mod an old Verizon bone stock Galaxy S5. Of course...& I'm sure many of you have been there...some guy we know was able to do it with his kid's phone...so now I should be able to do it. Never mind this guy is a software dev and most likely using an iOS phone. So, gauntlet thrown down, challenge issued. I've been doing a lot of digging & don't know if this can be done with this build. Here's what we have:
G900V, bone stock Verizon
Build number = MMB29M.G900VVRU2DQL1
Security patch level = 8/1/17
Let me know if any other specs would be helpful.
Thank you kindly.
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Not sure why you don't just go buy a burner flip phone from Walmart? I thought those could still be activated.
If not, you'd have to disable the portion of the kernel that handles data. Let's be honest, this is a ~10 year old device so you won't find much assistance unfortunately.
Oh yeah, forgot, this is Android 6.0.1.
As for the query, you're right...I could do the burner/fip/slider thing, perhaps...but, truly, it appears all carriers across the board are throwing off 3G devices as fast as they can. I did see some of the rough service basic phones have 4G capability, but can't justify price on those things. Tough balance to strike as we're doing some traveling where VZW is the only network that's really reliable...& trying to get a child the best camera possible on the devices we have, so they can take pics of stuff they may never see again. Old basic phones are pretty challenging to text on, too. Anyway, we have an old iPod Touch someone threw away, plus the S5. S5 has the better cameras. But it's one of the last builds they sold for Verizon...and I don't ever remember there being a way to unlock the bootloader on that build...the G900V. But, regardless, I still can't find a way to shut down mobile & Wi-Fi on it. I think they have a Verizon family app that will let you shut down the web, but it is extra per month, of course. Appreciate the feedback, for sure. This is just the DIY kinda life, I reckon: constantly trying to refurb, reuse the old stuff, fix stuff yourself, do without...all to live w/in your means & save dinero.
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Oh yeah, forgot, this is Android 6.0.1.
As for the query, you're right...I could do the burner/fip/slider thing, perhaps...but, truly, it appears all carriers across the board are throwing off 3G devices as fast as they can. I did see some of the rough service basic phones have 4G capability, but can't justify price on those things. Tough balance to strike as we're doing some traveling where VZW is the only network that's really reliable...& trying to get a child the best camera possible on the devices we have, so they can take pics of stuff they may never see again. Old basic phones are pretty challenging to text on, too. Anyway, we have an old iPod Touch someone threw away, plus the S5. S5 has the better cameras. But it's one of the last builds they sold for Verizon...and I don't ever remember there being a way to unlock the bootloader on that build...the G900V. But, regardless, I still can't find a way to shut down mobile & Wi-Fi on it. I think they have a Verizon family app that will let you shut down the web, but it is extra per month, of course. Appreciate the feedback, for sure. This is just the DIY kinda life, I reckon: constantly trying to refurb, reuse the old stuff, fix stuff yourself, do without...all to live w/in your means & save dinero.
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I mean there is a way to unlock the bootloader if you look on XDA. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ootloader-using-dev-bootloader-kk-mm.3337909/ The Verizon S5 was the worst model out of all of the US carrier variants.
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This has always been a great way to give kids a first phone, a phone that will only do call & text. So, turned to old family inventory or new companies that specialize in a modern phone with internet or social media interaction. Enter Gabb Wireless or Pinwheel. Landed on Gabb Wireless, but my bride wants me to try to mod an old Verizon bone stock Galaxy S5.
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I know this thread is almost a year old, and I'm sorry I'm late to the party, but I had the same idea!
My kids had been using Gabb Wireless for a while, and we were mostly happy with the service, but I wanted the option to install other useful apps on their phones without giving them access to the web. So, I bought a couple of old Galaxy S5 SM-G900V (Verizon version) phones, and I think I've succeeded in modifying them in a way that will prevent the kids from surfing the internet or installing their own apps. I thought I'd post my method here, in case anyone is still interested. Here's what I did:
Install Safestrap Recovery. (Follow this guide, up to and including the step where you install Safestrap. Skip the remaining steps in the guide.)
Boot into Safestrap Recovery and flash jrkruse's “slightly de-bloated” stock Marshmallow rom from here.
Use either ADB or Safestrap to remove any system apps that would allow kids to browse the web or download their own apps. (To delete unwanted system apps using Safestrap recovery, click Mount and make sure the system partition is mounted. Also make sure the “Mount system partition read-only” box is unchecked. Then go back and click Advanced > File Manager, and edit or remove system files as desired.) The web browser is already removed from jrkruse's rom, but I also removed the following apps:
from /system/app:
Gmail2
SamsungSetupWizard
SecEmail_K
InteractiveTutorial [This is the Samsung Help app.]
SamsungAppsWidget_Phone_Carrier_VZW
from /system/priv-app:
Velvet [this is the Google search app]
SamsungUpdates [this includes the Samsung Apps store and “Galaxy essentials,” which would allow kids to download and install their own apps]
GoogleOneTimeInitializer
SetupWizard
from /data/app:
com.android.vending-1 [this is the Google Play Store]
Edit the settings APK file to disable the option to remove the option to install apps from “uknown sources” (Settings > Security > Uknown Sources) so that users can’t enable that option. This will prevent kids from installing apps by sideloading (e.g. copying apps from a friend's phone via SD card.) Apps can still be installed via recovery or ADB, but most kids won't know how to do that.
To edit the settings APK properly, you could follow this guide, but I used a much hackier method and basically just sabotaged the security_settings_misc.xml file inside SecSettings.apk, so that the settings app crashes if the user tries to open and modify those settings.
I've attached my modified settings file. You can put it on the phone's SD card, then use Safestrap to copy it to system/priv-app/SecSettings. Save the original settings file first (or just rename it and change the filename extension) so that you can restore it later if needed.