So I was going to contact people in TWRP about making TWRP recovery for this phone, then I realized that we probably will need to have some factory images lying around in case I break something, I can restore the phone in the mean time.
I checked the Razer website for these images and they are no where to be found. I thought, they have to provide these, this phone isn't even tied to a carrier. What if something happened to the OS files and became corrupt? How could I restore the phone?
This is the reason google provides factory images for their phones. I know Razer is new to the phone market and they are learning the requirements, but this is kind of a big oversight.
I contacted Razer support, and the conversation went like this:
Support:
Welcome to Razer Support, my name is <redacted> Please hold for a few moments while I review your inquiry. For quality assurance purposes, you may be selected to receive a survey regarding your service experience.
Thank you. Your case number is <redacted> . Please save it as a reference for this chat session.
What questions do you have about the Razer phone?
Me
I have one in hand, and was trying to secure a factory image for the phone in the event that something were to happen to it software wise, I could restore the phone. I could not find the location of the factory image of the phone anywhere on the razer site. Where is this located?
Support
The factory reset would reset your phone back to when you first got it. I would recommend you to save your files on the SD card. When doing a factory reset, remove the SD card so the files save on it won't be erased.
Me
A factory reset only works in the event the OS is in tact. If something were to happen to the OS files itself, it would require a factory image reflash in download mode.
Where can I obtain the factory image. Since this phone is not tied to a carrier, you must provide this file. I cannot simply go into a phone store and have them reflash the phone.
Support:
Let me check if we have that.
Me
Ok, thanks
Support
Thanks for waiting. Upon checking, we do not have a factory image available yet. All downloadable software for the phone should be available in the phone's webpage in the future.
Me
That is a generalized answer. Specifically, Does this include the Factory Images?
I do not want to wait for them to put the factory images up on the website to only find out that they will not make that specific image available later.
Support
We do not have information yet on what software will be available for download in the future. Since we do not have the factory image available, we cannot tell when and if it would be available.
Me
Who would have that information?
Is there someone I can call directly?
Support
Our developers would have that information but unfortunately, we do not have their contact information. We are only informed through the website.
Me
Ok, thanks, well I'll have to find their contact information and give them a ring.
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So clearly a cop out. They don't know in support where the factory images are? Come on, you're support, it's one of the main things you should know the location of. So I don't know if Razer is planning to release the factory images or not, but I imagine they will have to unless they suspect we will be RMA'ing the devices everytime someone jacks up the phone software. I know it's their first Foray into the phone market, so maybe they forgot to add the factory images? The fact that he clued me into the developers knowing the answer to that means he knows something but isn't maybe allowed to tell us.
If someone gets the factory image or developers contact information, please post it here, I'll be happy to make the calls.
Factory images will come eventually many companies wait a while before posting them in case of major bugs are found. Look at the essential it just recently released factory images and it's been out since august
Thats understandable.. You dont normally get the images on the first few months of release. It depends on razer when this will be out much like the essential brand
I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
I have the phone I just picked one up at Microsoft if someone could tell me how to make a recovery image I would be happy to upload it.
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I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
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Coming from the v20, and guess who I see. Although as you stated you don't have the device, still excited what you'll bring to this device. As soon as mine is not stuck in customs I'd be glad to get you anything you need from the device or test anything you put together.
Same here, customs just released them but I do imaging at work. Easy peezy
I just want to get rid of this Three logo on boot lol
Hi, since I am starting my own company I have been in contact with many other companies lately, I came across your thread and decided to ask Razer, they got in contact with their devs and gave me a call back a few days later and said to be rest assured the factory images will be posted within a few weeks just like the Nextbit Robin.
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Sorry, was wrong images.
I wondered ?
Was gonna say that was real fast!
Support says they know but won't tell coz "policy"
jcadduono said:
I sent Razer developer zone an email regarding sources though I'm not sure it will get shared with their legal department or go anywhere.
That being said, if they do put up kernel sources and the bootloader is unlockable then it should be simple enough to just unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP from built kernel sources, dd relevant unmodified partitions to a computer, then build sparse factory style images from them. Recovery image can be obtained by using applypatch on patch data available on system partition and stock boot image.
It's an unlikely backwards approach, yes. I'll work on it if I see it. I don't own the device, however.
Having these bit-perfect factory backups will certainly help with becoming OTA compatible if they don't provide factory binaries later on.
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Is there any other way of porting over twrp without the kernel sources?
I have this device and consider my self some what of an experienced flasher.
I'd be willing to test your custom recovery .img if your able to put something together.
I do have a back up phone I could use while I wait for Razer to release the Recovery Images just in case my RP goes down.
I have a very bad feeling we won't get these for a while look at essential for example it took them months to release them. I mean razer have released nothing yet at all (which they have to do iirc)
Roxas598 said:
I have a very bad feeling we won't get these for a while look at essential for example it took them months to release them. I mean razer have released nothing yet at all (which they have to do iirc)
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I would assume they are holding back the images cause they are still patching software to fix the issues at launch like camera quality, etc. They have already indicated there was a couple more patches coming.. I would assume they don't wanna release images of the phone in its current state because of it and will make them available in the next few weeks after they get there stuff fixed a bit.. Just my 2 cents
I just got off the online chat with Razer support - here is the transcript.
Mobile Support (10:17:40 PM):Welcome to Razer Support, my name is Zilpah A. Please hold for a few moments while I review your inquiry. For quality assurance purposes, you may be selected to receive a survey regarding your service experience.
Mobile Support (10:17:49 PM):Hi there!
Me (10:18:33 PM):Hello - have the engineers decided when the factory images for the razer phone will be online for download?
Mobile Support (10:18:58 PM):Before we proceed, please confirm if the following information are correct:
Name: *********
E-mail: *********
Me (10:19:14 PM):yes that's me
Mobile Support (10:19:27 PM):Thank you! Please take note of your case number for future reference, 1471282.
Mobile Support (10:19:46 PM):How may I assist you today?
Me (10:20:09 PM)o you know when factory images of the razer phone will be online for download?
Mobile Support (10:21:51 PM)lease give me 2 minutes to check on your concern, okay?
Me (10:21:57 PM):sure
Mobile Support (10:23:03 PM):Thanks.
Mobile Support (10:24:17 PM):*******, are you referring to the source code of the phone?
Me (10:24:24 PM):yes
Mobile Support (10:27:54 PM):Regarding this, we have reached out to our Engineering team and confirmed that the source code will be made publicly available via our support web site by December 15.
Mobile Support (10:28:23 PM):Upon release, we will make sure to inform you and provide you with the link.
Me (10:28:53 PM)K thank you so much - any way you can e-mail me a transcript of this online chat?
Mobile Support (10:30:24 PM):You're welcome. Actually, there is an option for you to save it before ending the chat session.
Me (10:30:42 PM)k thanks a lot - that is all I needed
Mobile Support (10:31:36 PM):My pleasure!
So it seems like December 15th is the magic day for us!!!!
Damn, came to check if it's getting any dev support.
But from the looks of it, I will have to wait and see before getting this phone.
Still that Razer support conversation makes me hold off on getting the device. Hope they did not contract some third party to make the phone and have little control over it.
comscier said:
Hope they did not contract some third party to make the phone and have little control over it.
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Razer bought Nextbit and that team made the phone. They have full control and hopefully will release the factory image in the coming weeks.
2 days!
Maybe, if they don't back out
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Broke the glass on my Titan and getting a replacement today. Getting the software back on is no problem and I really don't have any data to worry about since it's up on Skydrive.
But, is there anyway to save my text messages and restore them and the groups I have set up?
What else am I missing?
Thanks,
Rick
there's an sms back up tool in the app development forum.
as far as groups, i don't think theres a way to save them.
svtfmook said:
there's an sms back up tool in the app development forum.
as far as groups, i don't think theres a way to save them.
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I'll go and search for it...
I've seen posts where people unlock their phones or load a particular Rom and use Zune to backup their phones. I haven't seen a post that actually describes how to do that. Not sure it applies here but after a while I am going to try and unlock my phone and try a couple of Rom's.
you can use the zune back up tools, but, i don't think any gen2 devices really have full support with roms and imaging tools.
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you can use the zune back up tools, but, i don't think any gen2 devices really have full support with roms and imaging tools.
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I must admit, I was pretty good on the WM platform but on WP and Zune, I am a newbie. I don't see where Zune will do a backup and like you said, there isn't much support for it which I interpret into, back it up is good but restoring is a whole other issue? Correct?
Gotta ask too, the signature you use. Do you still race? I am in my 50's now and raced locally into my 30's so it's been a while! The the part of your user ID that states SVT, any chance it references Ford vehicles?
The Zune backup image is tied to the hardware. You can't backup one phone and restore to a different phone.
Aphasaic2002 said:
The Zune backup image is tied to the hardware. You can't backup one phone and restore to a different phone.
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Real world, people's phones are going to break and be replaced and in my case, with the exact same phone and model. Tools should be available to make this an easy task to complete. Not as an afterthought but as part of the base system.
Why take a happy customer and just tick the guy off when you can't replace all the data in a few easy steps.
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Real world, people's phones are going to break and be replaced and in my case, with the exact same phone and model. Tools should be available to make this an easy task to complete. Not as an afterthought but as part of the base system.
Why take a happy customer and just tick the guy off when you can't replace all the data in a few easy steps.
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Tell me about it. Apple and Android had backup/restore ability since day 1 - all smartphones should! Now with iOS5 Apple allow users to do a full backup and restore via iCloud over wifi; no computer needed.
WP7 is ridiculously behind - it's like Microsoft thinks our data isn't important to us? Anyway you can vote for this feature here:
http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/f...suggestions/suggestions/1549673-device-backup
There are ways to backup text messages, but it requires fully unlocking the device, which is not possible on the Titan yet.
If you have the tools to do it, replacing the touchscreen on your broken Titan with the one on the replacement would be the best way to keep your data.
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
Elanguescence said:
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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I heard my company is planning to go with these soon for entry level supervisors such as myself. I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is. All the specs and brochures from Motorola keep calling it a mobile computer in a smartphone "form factor" but never actually call it a phone. I didn't see anything in any of the specs to lead me to believe for sure that it was a phone or if it was just an Android computer in a smartphone form factor.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
Thanks.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
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Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
Elanguescence said:
Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
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Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
Sort of a let-down really. Yes, it "can" be a phone. Or without a sim card it can be a really powerful Android based mobile computer. That's what it is going to be for most of us. Only a few supervisors with area management approval are going to get units with the phone features working. Still cool. Just not as cool as I'd thought it was going to be.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
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I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
Elanguescence said:
I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
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I don't think they're doing anything all that special to cripple it. They just won't all have sim cards or a cell plan. Pretty much as simple as that.
I won't be doing anything to circumvent that though or rooting it or anything like that. It's not like it's a gift and it belongs to me or anything. After almost 22 years, I've kind of grown to like my job and getting a paycheck every two weeks.I'd kind of like to keep it for another 15 or 20 years. Who knows, maybe my manager will decide that I need cell service with mine.
I work for a large automaker in the U.S. We have over 2.8 million square feet under roof. Personally, I can be anywhere on in the plant, on the roof, in pits & sub-basements underneath or anywhere on or near the 50 acre plant site at any given time. A lot of what I need to do on a daily basis is through our intranet portal. They're putting in something like 500 new wi-fi repeaters/extenders all around the plant as well. They're purchasing these for over 300 first line supervisors at my site alone. I'm pretty sure they're doing this corporate-wide so I hate to think what they're spending on these things as a corporation. I'm sure it would bankrupt many small nations! In addition to giving us portal access away from the desk, these are meant to replace our aging industrial radio system. As expensive as these are, they're still much cheaper than $1.5 to $2k per person for a radio that has no other built-in functionality and these do seem pretty ruggedized.
Still a shame about the phone functionality though.
- Byron
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
FYI, in case anyone's wondering, there is a version with Google apps on the way (if it isn't already orderable).
Sent from my Moto X
tfnico said:
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
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Browser is a standard one, which comes with other devices. Name is Browser.apk and version is 1.0.9
It's possible to install unsigned APK's without rooting.
google account
Hi,
I got stucked with trying to get google calendars from my google account to TC55.
I found one solution to setup google account as a corporate one, but it's not available anymore due to change in google policy.
I can setup google mail via email account, but that doesn't bring me my calendars to the device.
I tried to install gapps but without success.
Is there any other way?
Thanks.
Motorola work on google apps for TC55.There is in beta.
Elanguescence said:
... here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
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Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
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No idea, I haven't tried. As far as I understand gapps are usually installed via flashing a zip from recovery, and the stock recovery of the TC55 does not have that option, it only allows reflashing a whole image, if I understand it correctly. Either way, I have come to appreciate the open source alternatives and do not want to get Google on my phone, so I will not try, sorry.
However, going by this thread over at the Motorola support forum, it seems it won't take long until there is official gapps support:
https://developer.motorolasolutions.com/thread/4989
Motorola has now released a TC55-firmware with Google apps. Here are the release notes:
https://atgsupportcentral.motorolasolutions.com/content/emb/docs/ReleaseNotes/Release%20Notes%20-%20%20TC55_RevAPlus_GMS_01%2074G_v10.htm
According to the support email they sent me, to get the actual release you need to perform the following arcane ritual:
Resolution Type is : Software Download
Resolution Id is : 95562
Resolution Title is : TC55 Update Image v1.74 with GMS (Google Mobile Service) Release Note & Factory Reset & Enterprise Enabler package
restrictedSW :
T55N0JGMVRUEN17400.zip 321 MB TC55 OS Recovery Update package
T55N0JGMVAUEN17400.apf 321 MB TC55 OS update package file for deployment using MSP
If you require access to OS files for TC55 1.74 GMS then call the local Support Desk and provide following information:
a. Site ID
b. Serial #(s)
c. Phone #
d. Customer name (First and Last)
e. E-mail address
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Don't ask me what the local support desk number is, or the site ID, or why they have to make this so complicated.
Hi Elanguescence,
I think I screwed up my tc55 by enabling the multiuser function without first creating the white list. Now all the users (with admin rights) does not have access to all the programs, including Applock Administrator and Multiuser administrator.
To cut things short, do you know of a way to reset the device? I don't mind setting it to factory default and start over. I've googled it and some said to launch Rapid Deployment and scan a barcode from there... but my Rapid Deployment just says "Service Not Ready, Please Wait" and get stuck there.
Any help appreciated. Thank you.
Any TC55 users here? Should be getting my unit w/ GMS soon... How do you guys like it?
Is the bootloader locked?
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Hey!
I want to Buy one TC55 for me. Normally i hate Android and the Google stuff on the Phone but some Motorola Salesman told me there is a version with out.
Now i use an Sybian Device. That mean i am "offline" the hole time and when i need Internet the Phone connect the the Internet.
So how about that phone can i work "offline" to?
I will also use an VPN Tunnel to block on my backend all Connnection i dont want. Does all Data trough this VPN Tunnel ?
How about the Barcode Scanning does it work good?
I know for 2D i need to use the Cam but how works it when i am in some other Application?
Nobody?
Ok. I just bought a TC55 from a Friend and I was wondering if someone would post the update to get GSM and the Factory Reset packages. I went to the page and it requires all the information posted above before. Mine is rooted, but i am trying to install GAPS but the recovery is the basic and cannot. I manually installed Google Play and the Google Play Services but Google Play services keep crashing and the Play Store will not connect, any ideas ?
the are 2 versions one with google s... service and the other without.
So i belive you have the first?
(Can i ask you some question about that phone?)
*** the issue with my ph-1 devices are linked to a computer "virus" that ive come to find operates using the same mechanics of mounting loop devices with and endless parent-child linking system. Im seeking assistance here because the solution is the same in both cases, phone or pc, and believe I will be able to find an answer with the help of the talented members of this community. Thank you in advance**
Ive had an Essential PH-1 for 2 years, rooted nearly the entire time (thank you the contribution of fellow xda contributors). In August it was behaving oddly enough i ran some logcats that showed i wad having a full-on takeover of my device (streaming video and audio of mt calls, uploading all my docs and pics somewhere, etc). I tried wiping it clean, reformatting, nothing worked. I ended getting another ph-1 which was infected the same way shortly after i began using it. I know how it spreads (hijacks the bluetooth in each device and uses it as a broadcast signal and infects nearby devices in discovery mode) and why it has extreme persistence (converts ramdisk into a hidden partition to execute commands from boot) and what it results in (phone and pcs boot into a shell, never having ownership of the device) and why it goes undetected (hijacks system files and but keeps official signatures, also has its own imposter files and drivers for seemingly every software including every antivirus i can think of)
I also know that unmounting these subsystem loop devices will allow me to eradicate the init files that restart the takeover process at every reboot, and allow me to restore proper function and my privacy to my devices.
So, to any of you devs or programmers that speak Linux or python, id appreciate any help.
Any screenshots or examples ill gladly supply there are so many i honestly don't know what is relevent enough to post. If you need to see anything specific let me know.
Thanks fellas
I believe I've suffered the and issue possibly started when I got my ph-1 about a year ago. Haven't used it for about 6-7 months now due to a broken screen but I believe w.e it is has infected some of not all of my other devices. From your description it sounds identical. Can you provide more info just curious to find out what the source could be. I was also rooted most of the time on android pie ROMs, and use verizion as my cell service. I've been thinking Verizon might play a roll in what's been going on but reading your post is the first info I've been able to find anything similar
Ok. Last year someone was able to tunnel into my network at home. Alot of crazy s*** went down. Long story short, I think there's something fishy going on again.. let me explain.
Everytime I get a new phone, laptop, desktop, etc. I start finding a ridiculous amount of hidden files and folders. The PC side is no longer the issue, now its moved to Android, I think?..
The question I want to know, is how can I compare my what my phone should be installing after a factory reset, file wise? I've looked for a list online to compare with and no luck so far. I also found that there is a partition of the internal storage, completely hidden and inaccessible. Like.. I can't see anything. Add that with permissions being changed randomly so I'm not able to take full control over these pesky little buggers.
In short, I'm either wayyyy to high off that last dab, or my phone is being tampered with. What can I do? Here's what I'm working with.
Samsung A21 (SM-S215DL) using Straight Talk. Attached is a screenshot of the SW mumbo jumbo. I really hope someone can help. TIA!
namdrop22 said:
The question I want to know, is how can I compare my what my phone should be installing after a factory reset, file wise? I've looked for a list online to compare with and no luck so far.
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IMO nobody can tell you what apps to install after a Factory Reset: it's alone your decision what apps you want to run.
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IMO nobody can tell you what apps to install after a Factory Reset: it's alone your decision what apps you want to run.
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No no. You're missing the question here.
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No no. You're missing the question here.
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May be.
A Factory Reset doesn't install anything, it wipes all user apps and data. A Factory Reset never touches Android OS itself.
Look at the running apps and services, anything utilizating root or kernel or system privileges will not be in that list unless it's using a app to bootstrap but if you have a weird duplicate system app or an app with a strange name could help you narrow it down. if you have usb debugging enabled you may be able to run a logcat as well to see what messages the system is generating.
Does samsung offer any tools to read the boot log? You might find something In that too. Lastly, well you should do this first, check if there are any exploits or vulnerabilities with your phones software and hardware. Google search " chipset-or-software-name-here + escalate vulnerable cve exploit "
Check past software versions too, you could get hit while the vuln is unknown or lesser known then it patches the manufacturers patches.
Can u elaborate on these file systems or folders you say you have that are invisible?
Unless you loaded malware, a trojan etc on to the phone either in data from the PC, email download, an app you installed or a download from the internet.
Even so it would die with a factory reset... so do another factory reset so if you think so.
Then be careful what you allow into it.
Don't let anyone use your phone or access any of your devices ie flashcards, PC etc.
Run
SafetyNet Test - Apps on Google Play
SafetyNet device compatibility test
play.google.com
to check whether phone's Android got tampered or not
After paying to have my phone flashed (Honor 20e), how do I know if the person really did the agreed job or simply did a hard reset?
Flashed with what? Why?
With stock ROM, to eliminate spyware.
by risking more spyware ignoring that stock always has spyware?
my guy, flash it your self with an aftermarket OS like GrapheneOS, /e/OS or OmniROM.
you don't avoid espionage by walzing into the spymaster's den!
Ok… factory resetting would also remove bad software…
traman124 said:
Ok… factory resetting would also remove bad software…
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LMAO no, Android (from google or honor or any other phone maker) comes with "bad software", a factory reset won't do anything!
again, get /e/OS or grapheneOS or OmniROM for your phone and flash it your self! get rid of anything that comes from Honor/Google like GMSCore that can be replaced by MicroGapps
though I very much congratulate you on wanting to escape the goolag! now get to hacking!
I think he was referring to bad software that he installed and wanted to clean wipe his phone.... I don't think he was trying to degoogle...
If you were, Lineage OS or /e/OS with microG and Aurora let's you get apps without Google services
@burbank_ what do you mean by bad software?
Yep, I meant spyware that the perpetrator installed on my phone, allowing them to monitor my activity, listen to my calls, and possibly even control my phone.
So yes, I want to clean wipe, and I don't think I can be sure to have removed the spyware with just a hard reset..?
There's no way I know of to check, but a factory reset would remove all the apps from the user partitions (including the spyware).
I looked for stock firmware for the 20e everywhere and found nothing (except a sketchy download link that downloaded some random firmware for the Honor 8X) so your person probably cheated you (unless he works for huawei/honor and has access to some files that the Internet does not).
A factory and cache reset from Android Recovery (press Power + Volume Up and select factory reset, cache reset, reboot in order) would remove spyware for the most part.....
Ok, thank you (and qwerty too)!
I'll probably install a custom ROM myself then, just to be sure. Can you recommend what to install, I'm interested in something with all the Android functionality I've gotten used to...?
It's a huawei... You can't unlock the bootloader
traman124 said:
It's a huawei... You can't unlock the bootloader
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maybe only through the phone, I did a quick search and allegedly huawei maybe would allow you to unlock it, but as I suspected there is always a BROM exploit to be had: https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-honor-bootloader-unlock-potatonv/
though the link is a bit dated, I do believe potatonv should support the Kirin 710F SoC
also, if you want to remove spyware, you remove anything that contains data collection I.E. google services and whatever the CCP mandates their OEMs install
Thnx, I'll look into it. What about other custom ROMs you've mentioned, though, would there be difficulties in flashing it with one of them?
Also, I've another question. I contacted another mobile repair service and they've told me they have special access to stock ROMs through "programmers they hire", so they can install a stock ROM for my Honor 20e. Is this possible/ unlikely/ trying to cheat me?
well I don't know about the other ROMs, ever since AOSP introduced Projet Trebble the promise was of Generic System Images, but they don't exactly exist because just like with UEFI, the OEMs implementation is broken so you still have to look for an aftermarket OS that is speciffically tailored for your device
that repair shop are likely trying to scam the heck out of you or actully know what they are doing and have a fresh image they pulled from a brand new phone and that "programmers they hire" thing that sets off alarms in my head is likely just them explaining it as simple as possible
burbank_ said:
After paying to have my phone flashed (Honor 20e), how do I know if the person really did the agreed job or simply did a hard reset?
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Yes, it seems there is a way to find out about the last flashing date - provided it was followed by a Google account initialization:
Go to the Google Dashboard, login with your Google account.
Scroll to the section labeled "Android" and expand it (by clicking its title / the LGM [little green man])
Check for the device in question
Associated, you will find a date of registry. That doesn't reflect the first time a device was added, but the last time the Google account was activated on the device. So if you activate your Google account following a Factory-reset, this field is updated and thus reflects this point-in-time.
Additionally, if phone's Android is rooted, you always can check a directory's creation time below /data/data.
burbank_ said:
After paying to have my phone flashed (Honor 20e), how do I know if the person really did the agreed job or simply did a hard reset?
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why pay for something you can do?
tutibreaker said:
why pay for something you can do?
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because you dont want to