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You may have heard that blizzard released their mobile authenticator for android via the android market.
Now the thing i was wondering is where serial is stored.
In the java emulator it was stored in a xxxx.db file, and in iphone in an xml file,
correct me if i'm wrong though.
Code:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<Serial>US-1234-5678-9123</Serial>
<Token>AQIDBAUGBwgJCgsMDQ4PEBESExQ=</Token>
<TimeDifference>-631</TimeDifference>
</Authenticator>
or this is perhaps an xml file to compile it for iphone/touch,
anyway, there is (or has to be) a way to change the serial , i've been looking in every xml or db file on my G2 but no succes yet, perhaps anyone else have found something?
I've encountered some difficulties with using the Blizzard Mobile Authenticator on my rooted handset. Seems it treats mine differently to a non-rooted handset and can be unusable. I've reported the problems on the official WoW forums here.
Regarding changing the serial code, why is this ever necessary? You can view it through the applications controls should you ever need to look it up. And you can always replace the authenticator on your account.
high class problem... i dont know it
jokeyrhyme said:
Regarding changing the serial code, why is this ever necessary? You can view it through the applications controls should you ever need to look it up. And you can always replace the authenticator on your account.
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Haha, I answered my own question yesterday. Forgot to unlink my phone from my account before wiping it for a ROM update, and had to call Blizzard for help. It's lucky I had my original serial code written down. I can now see the value in being able to cause a fresh authenticator to behave like an older one.
This is something that has been talked about on another thread over at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557862
But from what I have been able to get, the data is stored in the file:
/data/data/com.blizzard.bma/shared_prefs/com.blizzard.bma.AUTH_STORE.xml
Now, how the token file is encoded... I can't say. Haven't gotten to that part yet.
jokeyrhyme said:
Haha, I answered my own question yesterday. Forgot to unlink my phone from my account before wiping it for a ROM update, and had to call Blizzard for help. It's lucky I had my original serial code written down. I can now see the value in being able to cause a fresh authenticator to behave like an older one.
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dont mean to bring up a super old thread, but i couldnt find any answers (the post linked here shows how to read the serial from file, but not how to make it persistant or change it to something else) (sorry if its preferred to make a new thread to ask the question, seems like every forum prefers a different method, and this one seemed to be pretty spot on for what i was wondering)
I wanna try out different roms but keep the serial persistant. I could on my iphone by backing up the authenticator in itunes.
but even backing up app+data in titanium back up leaves me with a different serial.
Is there any way to get a backup with a persistant serial in it? I really dont want to leave my account unsecured, I dont want to have to carry around an extra keychain but im not going to deattach and reattach the authenticator every time i want to flash a rom.
bisby said:
dont mean to bring up a super old thread, but i couldnt find any answers (the post linked here shows how to read the serial from file, but not how to make it persistant or change it to something else) (sorry if its preferred to make a new thread to ask the question, seems like every forum prefers a different method, and this one seemed to be pretty spot on for what i was wondering)
I wanna try out different roms but keep the serial persistant. I could on my iphone by backing up the authenticator in itunes.
but even backing up app+data in titanium back up leaves me with a different serial.
Is there any way to get a backup with a persistant serial in it? I really dont want to leave my account unsecured, I dont want to have to carry around an extra keychain but im not going to deattach and reattach the authenticator every time i want to flash a rom.
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iìll try to see if after 1+ year something changed and finally we can have an answer..
im in same condition.. id love to use mobile autenticator on android on my sgs2 BUT im kinda flashing roms kernels and testing every week different roms..
was hoping in titanium bkup.. but seems they wrot aint workin.. sooooooo any suggegstions?
Hi guys, my girlfriend bought a lumia 710, and one day after she bought it, I flashed a custom rom
But, we can't remember making any call before the new ROM, and with the new ROM the call quality is TERRIBLE, when I try to talk to her, I always hear a very loud echo, and her voice is always very low...
Has anyone got a similar bug? can this be caused by the ROM? or is it a problem with the phone and we need to send it to the technical assistance??
I was thinking on trying to put a custom ROM based com 7.8 to see if this fixes the call problem, but we don't want to lose every progress we made on our games :crying: is there anyway to make a backup of the savegames so I can put it back on the new ROM?
You're quite likely to get flamed (and rightly so) for the last part of your first sentence. I'll certainly tell you that I have no particular interest in helping you. I might even engage in a bit of it myself...
With that said, I don't know whether there are call problems with Lumia 710 custom ROMs, but normally that certainly isn't a problem they have. As for backup, there are ways both to back up the whole phone, or individual app storage. I'll leave the issue of finding them up to you; you seem perfectly capable of searching XDA-Devs when your goal is to abuse the hard work of the forum's actual contributors and be a greedy cheapskate with a sense of entitlement; so you have a pretty good chance of finding the backup tools too.
Oh look, I guess I did...
Specht77 said:
.... but we don't want to lose every progress we made on our games :crying: is there anyway to make a backup of the savegames so I can put it back on the new ROM?
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If that Lumia is unlocked you can do backup with data bases your games (and other apps) via Windows Phone Device Manager from Julien Schapman. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965788
GoodDayToDie said:
You're quite likely to get flamed (and rightly so) for the last part of your first sentence. I'll certainly tell you that I have no particular interest in helping you. I might even engage in a bit of it myself...
With that said, I don't know whether there are call problems with Lumia 710 custom ROMs, but normally that certainly isn't a problem they have. As for backup, there are ways both to back up the whole phone, or individual app storage. I'll leave the issue of finding them up to you; you seem perfectly capable of searching XDA-Devs when your goal is to abuse the hard work of the forum's actual contributors and be a greedy cheapskate with a sense of entitlement; so you have a pretty good chance of finding the backup tools too.
Oh look, I guess I did...
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whoa easy there, don't need to come with 20 rocks on your hands...
Let's go by parts... You mean to tell me that I'm getting flamed just because we don't want to lose our progress on games? Isn't it normal? Don't you play games on your phone and computer? You wouldn't mind to lose all your progress?
I really don't know why to be so hater, i mean, if I was asking this stuff in other sub-forum I would understand, but this is the part for questions, aren't we suposed to ask stuff in here?
The last thing I want is to abuse or anything, I'm just asking here because I made a search on the internet and I didn't find anything helpful, and I thought that it was possible that someone here could had the same problem and know how to fix it...
My english is not perfect, dunno if I sounded rude on the first post up there, if so, sorry, don't need to be rude back... That wasn't my objective...
Now, about the backups, you said that it's possible to backup the whole phone, what do you mean about "whole"? It include the OS? So if I put the 7.8 I couldn't restore the savegames? If I try to restore it'll downgrade?
Specht77 said:
I flashed a custom rom to put more games on it...
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GoodDayToDie is refering to this comment... Here at XDA we DO NOT condone, encourage, support or assist in Piracy!
well damn, is it too late to just forget this little part?
In fairness, the loss of app progress is a huge problem however those apps got on your phone (yes, I do a ton of gaming on my phone, and at one point lost a lot of progress when I had to roll back the phone without being able to back up app data). That's why we do now, in fact, have tools for backing up the file in individual apps.
As for the "whole phone" thing, that's everything - the OS, the firmware, and the data - all in one opaque and encrypted blob. It's very handy for something to do before you mess with your phone's ROM or try experimental hacks. However, when it's restored, it overwrites everything on the phone back to that state. There's no way to do it piecemeal.
Budniu said:
If that Lumia is unlocked you can do backup with data bases your games (and other apps) via Windows Phone Device Manager from Julien Schapman. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965788
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Is it documented someplace on what to backup with this before installing a custom rom ? Under a quick look and search, I could not find the exact info on how to do this correctly
I want to backup all Game saves, phone log, SMS and picture messages and install a custom rom then restore them so I dont lose my any of it. Is this possable ? This would make i
I did seach, sorry if I missed it someplace....
Thanks in advance !
well, looks like i'm a bit out of luck...
I tried doing backup of the savegames with Windows Phone Device Manager, and installed the new ROM to see if it would fix the call quality...
well, it didn't, then I had an idea, and took off the case, and discovered that the case was causing this problem, it was in front of the microphone, that's why it was making echo, it was capturing sound from inside the phone, and I could hear her voice very low...
basically I "formated" the phone for nothing... and I tried to restore the backups I made on the WPDM, and it said that it restored successfully, but I tried the games... and it was with 0% progress !!!
I trully should have tried to learn more about making that full backup, it would be useful now!!!
edit: well, just kinectimals worked the backup
Specht77 said:
well, looks like i'm a bit out of luck...
I tried doing backup of the savegames with Windows Phone Device Manager, and installed the new ROM to see if it would fix the call quality...
well, it didn't, then I had an idea, and took off the case, and discovered that the case was causing this problem, it was in front of the microphone, that's why it was making echo, it was capturing sound from inside the phone, and I could hear her voice very low...
basically I "formated" the phone for nothing... and I tried to restore the backups I made on the WPDM, and it said that it restored successfully, but I tried the games... and it was with 0% progress !!!
I trully should have tried to learn more about making that full backup, it would be useful now!!!
edit: well, just kinectimals worked the backup
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Did you have to redownload the games before restoring ?
well, I installed them, then tries to restore the backup but nothing happened, didnt had to redownload and it's still 0%...
But don't worry, at least I discovered what was causing the call problem... Now we just need to make a little cut on the case!
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
Elanguescence said:
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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I heard my company is planning to go with these soon for entry level supervisors such as myself. I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is. All the specs and brochures from Motorola keep calling it a mobile computer in a smartphone "form factor" but never actually call it a phone. I didn't see anything in any of the specs to lead me to believe for sure that it was a phone or if it was just an Android computer in a smartphone form factor.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
Thanks.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
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Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
Elanguescence said:
Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
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Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
Sort of a let-down really. Yes, it "can" be a phone. Or without a sim card it can be a really powerful Android based mobile computer. That's what it is going to be for most of us. Only a few supervisors with area management approval are going to get units with the phone features working. Still cool. Just not as cool as I'd thought it was going to be.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
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I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
Elanguescence said:
I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
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I don't think they're doing anything all that special to cripple it. They just won't all have sim cards or a cell plan. Pretty much as simple as that.
I won't be doing anything to circumvent that though or rooting it or anything like that. It's not like it's a gift and it belongs to me or anything. After almost 22 years, I've kind of grown to like my job and getting a paycheck every two weeks.I'd kind of like to keep it for another 15 or 20 years. Who knows, maybe my manager will decide that I need cell service with mine.
I work for a large automaker in the U.S. We have over 2.8 million square feet under roof. Personally, I can be anywhere on in the plant, on the roof, in pits & sub-basements underneath or anywhere on or near the 50 acre plant site at any given time. A lot of what I need to do on a daily basis is through our intranet portal. They're putting in something like 500 new wi-fi repeaters/extenders all around the plant as well. They're purchasing these for over 300 first line supervisors at my site alone. I'm pretty sure they're doing this corporate-wide so I hate to think what they're spending on these things as a corporation. I'm sure it would bankrupt many small nations! In addition to giving us portal access away from the desk, these are meant to replace our aging industrial radio system. As expensive as these are, they're still much cheaper than $1.5 to $2k per person for a radio that has no other built-in functionality and these do seem pretty ruggedized.
Still a shame about the phone functionality though.
- Byron
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
FYI, in case anyone's wondering, there is a version with Google apps on the way (if it isn't already orderable).
Sent from my Moto X
tfnico said:
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
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Browser is a standard one, which comes with other devices. Name is Browser.apk and version is 1.0.9
It's possible to install unsigned APK's without rooting.
google account
Hi,
I got stucked with trying to get google calendars from my google account to TC55.
I found one solution to setup google account as a corporate one, but it's not available anymore due to change in google policy.
I can setup google mail via email account, but that doesn't bring me my calendars to the device.
I tried to install gapps but without success.
Is there any other way?
Thanks.
Motorola work on google apps for TC55.There is in beta.
Elanguescence said:
... here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
RjCode said:
Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
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No idea, I haven't tried. As far as I understand gapps are usually installed via flashing a zip from recovery, and the stock recovery of the TC55 does not have that option, it only allows reflashing a whole image, if I understand it correctly. Either way, I have come to appreciate the open source alternatives and do not want to get Google on my phone, so I will not try, sorry.
However, going by this thread over at the Motorola support forum, it seems it won't take long until there is official gapps support:
https://developer.motorolasolutions.com/thread/4989
Motorola has now released a TC55-firmware with Google apps. Here are the release notes:
https://atgsupportcentral.motorolasolutions.com/content/emb/docs/ReleaseNotes/Release%20Notes%20-%20%20TC55_RevAPlus_GMS_01%2074G_v10.htm
According to the support email they sent me, to get the actual release you need to perform the following arcane ritual:
Resolution Type is : Software Download
Resolution Id is : 95562
Resolution Title is : TC55 Update Image v1.74 with GMS (Google Mobile Service) Release Note & Factory Reset & Enterprise Enabler package
restrictedSW :
T55N0JGMVRUEN17400.zip 321 MB TC55 OS Recovery Update package
T55N0JGMVAUEN17400.apf 321 MB TC55 OS update package file for deployment using MSP
If you require access to OS files for TC55 1.74 GMS then call the local Support Desk and provide following information:
a. Site ID
b. Serial #(s)
c. Phone #
d. Customer name (First and Last)
e. E-mail address
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Don't ask me what the local support desk number is, or the site ID, or why they have to make this so complicated.
Hi Elanguescence,
I think I screwed up my tc55 by enabling the multiuser function without first creating the white list. Now all the users (with admin rights) does not have access to all the programs, including Applock Administrator and Multiuser administrator.
To cut things short, do you know of a way to reset the device? I don't mind setting it to factory default and start over. I've googled it and some said to launch Rapid Deployment and scan a barcode from there... but my Rapid Deployment just says "Service Not Ready, Please Wait" and get stuck there.
Any help appreciated. Thank you.
Any TC55 users here? Should be getting my unit w/ GMS soon... How do you guys like it?
Is the bootloader locked?
Sent from my Moto X
Hey!
I want to Buy one TC55 for me. Normally i hate Android and the Google stuff on the Phone but some Motorola Salesman told me there is a version with out.
Now i use an Sybian Device. That mean i am "offline" the hole time and when i need Internet the Phone connect the the Internet.
So how about that phone can i work "offline" to?
I will also use an VPN Tunnel to block on my backend all Connnection i dont want. Does all Data trough this VPN Tunnel ?
How about the Barcode Scanning does it work good?
I know for 2D i need to use the Cam but how works it when i am in some other Application?
Nobody?
Ok. I just bought a TC55 from a Friend and I was wondering if someone would post the update to get GSM and the Factory Reset packages. I went to the page and it requires all the information posted above before. Mine is rooted, but i am trying to install GAPS but the recovery is the basic and cannot. I manually installed Google Play and the Google Play Services but Google Play services keep crashing and the Play Store will not connect, any ideas ?
the are 2 versions one with google s... service and the other without.
So i belive you have the first?
(Can i ask you some question about that phone?)
Let me start by saying I'm not the new kid on the block. I've been using Android since it's inception. I am an Android fanatic. I root, tinker with roms, apps, settings, kernels, mods, etc. . You name it, I do it( as far as android is concerned). I say this with a singular purpose, don't flame me for this question because to me it seems completely valid.
Why does android not have the ability backup itself built in( this should not require root) ?
Why has Google not implemented the ability to do so from a computer? <<- This should be identical to how an iPhone is backed up ( don't flame on this because it's actually one of the things iPhone does better than anyone else, and I hate Apple. However I give credit where it's due)
Don't tell me we have plenty of options even if we're not rooted, if this we're the case then people would not rely on clockwork mod recoveries, twrp, or the like. Those types of restores should be available without having a custom recovery, custom rom, or root in and of itself.
Also don't bring up the backup using adb, it's hidden, and it is mediocre. It fails to backup a lot of things.
I'm asking only about a complete backup option, with possibly the option to select and deselect certain types of data<<--This to should be similar to backing up an iPhone .
Now who here would like this to be a feature implemented in the next version of android?
If you answer my questions please just be clear and concise.
I will respond should it be warranted, or requested.
This is not a flaming thread, don't do it.
I look forward to all of your responses.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda app-developers app
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Let me start by saying I'm not the new kid on the block. I've been using Android since it's inception. I am an Android fanatic. I root, tinker with roms, apps, settings, kernels, mods, etc. . You name it, I do it( as far as android is concerned). I say this with a singular purpose, don't flame me for this question because to me it seems completely valid.
Why does android not have the ability backup itself built in( this should not require root) ?
Why has Google not implemented the ability to do so from a computer? <<- This should be identical to how an iPhone is backed up ( don't flame on this because it's actually one of the things iPhone does better than anyone else, and I hate Apple. However I give credit where it's due)
Don't tell me we have plenty of options even if we're not rooted, if this we're the case then people would not rely on clockwork mod recoveries, twrp, or the like. Those types of restores should be available without having a custom recovery, custom rom, or root in and of itself.
Also don't bring up the backup using adb, it's hidden, and it is mediocre. It fails to backup a lot of things.
I'm asking only about a complete backup option, with possibly the option to select and deselect certain types of data<<--This to should be similar to backing up an iPhone .
Now who here would like this to be a feature implemented in the next version of android?
If you answer my questions please just be clear and concise.
I will respond should it be warranted, or requested.
This is not a flaming thread, don't do it.
I look forward to all of your responses.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda app-developers app
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Well, you want some gain, you would have to bear some pain.......
Well... to be honest, i really don't use backups much, just titanium backup and we've got non-root alternatives as you stated, so , it's not a matter of great attention to me.... I like fresh and clean installs
playerjunglejosh said:
Let me start by saying I'm not the new kid on the block. I've been using Android since it's inception. I am an Android fanatic. I root, tinker with roms, apps, settings, kernels, mods, etc. . You name it, I do it( as far as android is concerned). I say this with a singular purpose, don't flame me for this question because to me it seems completely valid.
Why does android not have the ability backup itself built in( this should not require root) ?
Why has Google not implemented the ability to do so from a computer? <<- This should be identical to how an iPhone is backed up ( don't flame on this because it's actually one of the things iPhone does better than anyone else, and I hate Apple. However I give credit where it's due)
Don't tell me we have plenty of options even if we're not rooted, if this we're the case then people would not rely on clockwork mod recoveries, twrp, or the like. Those types of restores should be available without having a custom recovery, custom rom, or root in and of itself.
Also don't bring up the backup using adb, it's hidden, and it is mediocre. It fails to backup a lot of things.
I'm asking only about a complete backup option, with possibly the option to select and deselect certain types of data<<--This to should be similar to backing up an iPhone .
Now who here would like this to be a feature implemented in the next version of android?
If you answer my questions please just be clear and concise.
I will respond should it be warranted, or requested.
This is not a flaming thread, don't do it.
I look forward to all of your responses.
Sent from my LG-E980 using xda app-developers app
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it seems like a interesting idea, when i had a ipod touch back then, i jail broke it and after a few days it decided to not want to turn on (stayed at apple logo) and iTunes detected it and i was able to restore it to brand spanking new. i dont think it would be possible for google to do so without root ( and a few Sues here and there from apple ) Android is based off linux right? we can make backups on linux because we have Super User permissions, we own this Computer, we can do all the Admin Crap we want. for android, Samsung owns your phone or HTC owns your phone, You do not have full Admin permissions on your device to make a backup (of the sort we are talking about) also im sure the OEM's would be angry with people easily being able to Restore their broken device so they wont buy that phone a second time or even get a bigger more expensive phone.
The reason I bring it up is not because of fresh installs, or whatever.
Here is an example:
A regular non techie person, has Android phone x. They make a complete backup using the aforementioned capabilities that isn't implemented yet. There phones screen goes out, they drop there phone in water, whatever the phone is not in working condition. Well if they had the capabilities that I'm referring to, that phone would need to be called on warranty, or for the latter insurance. Either way they are sent a new device, same model as they had previously. Now they sync there backup, and there back up and running.
The way it is now, that person would have to hope that Google syncs back there apps ( it has never worked for me, except for contacts, and for the most part developers aren't backing up there app data to Google so that is not something you get back).
Not to mention settings are never synced, so there's that.
Point being android does not have any good options to make a complete backup. The only real options require root, which an average consumer will not have. This is why I'm saying it should be simplified, to where we can do it via one click on a pc.
I personally would like to start a petition for this, as anyone could benefit from this function.
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eatsleep said:
Well, you want some gain, you would have to bear some pain.......
Well... to be honest, i really don't use backups much, just titanium backup and we've got non-root alternatives as you stated, so , it's not a matter of great attention to me.... I like fresh and clean installs
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True, but if it's implemented within android that's not really an issue.
Look at it like this, we used to need root to screen shot, to Hotspot, to install apps out of the Android market ( not really been an issue since it hasn't been Google play because android was fairly mature by then). Point is Google gave those features, and implemented them natively, this removing need to root to do them. The same could be done with the ability to make backups.
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Trozzul said:
it seems like a interesting idea, when i had a ipod touch back then, i jail broke it and after a few days it decided to not want to turn on (stayed at apple logo) and iTunes detected it and i was able to restore it to brand spanking new. i dont think it would be possible for google to do so without root ( and a few Sues here and there from apple ) Android is based off linux right? we can make backups on linux because we have Super User permissions, we own this Computer, we can do all the Admin Crap we want. for android, Samsung owns your phone or HTC owns your phone, You do not have full Admin permissions on your device to make a backup (of the sort we are talking about) also im sure the OEM's would be angry with people easily being able to Restore their broken device so they wont buy that phone a second time or even get a bigger more expensive phone.
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Ment to quote you in the above quote.
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Ment to quote you in the above quote.
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well i think google has done enough to make google as great as it is today, im thinking the reason why we dont have one of these options could be that they want us to make a program for this? im sure eventually they will have such a option to download multiple apps on a que so we can install them quickly without have to go over Each specific one.
Well actually what I'm referring to would have to be done by Google.
Here's why, locked bootloaders, encrypted boot loaders, etc.
The developer community could make such a program, but it's going to need root to be able to do what I'm referring to.
Google would have to make the OEMs use a standard, so that it could be accomplished without exposing there software. This would probably mean our backups would have to be encrypted on a per Google account basis.
It's not an impossible feat.
1) It would simply require Google to make the standard, and ensure that it's enforced. Ignoring it would mean no Google services, which to most is a huge negative.
2) Google release the program.
3) OEM would need to ensure compliance with said program, and submit software drivers to Google, or simply distribute them via there website( as they do now). Preferably submitting them to Google.
4) Making backups would become so much easier, especially for the average joe
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Trozzul said:
well i think google has done enough to make google as great as it is today, im thinking the reason why we dont have one of these options could be that they want us to make a program for this? im sure eventually they will have such a option to download multiple apps on a que so we can install them quickly without have to go over Each specific one.
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One big problem with this is the syncing of app data. I don't want to have to restart my games every time I get a different device( especially a replacement device that is the same model as my prior device).
Another thing, I keep an electronic checkbook, and would be thrilled if I could keep that app data from here on out, even when I change devices. However this definitely something I don't want Google's prying eyes on. So only local backup, which makes the complete backup via pc even more vital.
Maybe since businesses are the next aim, they will implement this feature because it can be vital certain data be absolutely private, but still have backups.
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Greetings!
Just picked up a Pixel 6a, coming from an LG-V30. Have been out of the custom ROM game since switching from a Nexus5 to the LG which had minimal custom ROM options (stock was really quite good).
With the Nexus5 I was used to doing full backups (boot/system/data) with TWRP so I could try out a new ROM and reverting to my original ROM (completely set up with all my apps and data) with very little effort or down time.
I've spent some time reading the forum and it doesn't look like TWRP is really a thing for the Pixel 6a and I've found very little info about making a similar "full" backup.
Does such an option exist?
I'd like to test drive LineageOS (and maybe one or two others, I was a huge fan of CyanogenMod in the past), but having spent the last several days getting things "just right" in my stock/rooted setup I'm not thrilled at the idea of doing it again just to try something that might not work out.
Not really looking for "Google Backup" style options, I would like a solution I can do 100% local to try something out and then easily and quickly revert if needed.
Thanks!
TWRP style full backup isnt possible anymore, but you can use Swift backup to do a TiBu style app backup. Between Swift and Google a clean flash isnt horrible, but yeah.....I definitely also miss the full backup option.
Hi!
You can try this one: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/tool-root-adb-partition-backup-restore-tool-for-windows.4512231/
I could backup my Pixel 6a completely.
Sorry, but there is no such option. I have P6 and also miss TWRP or Clockwork kind of recovery solution. There is nothing similar (as far as I know) like what we had on previous phones... Now I use Swift backup for apps backup, but that's not what you looking for.
Thanks for the replies, even if they aren't what I was hoping for...
I have switched to Swift as well, too many issues with TiBU restoring data and ending up with force close problems.
Jan61 - Looks interesting, but I'm not sure it's ready for general use.
Typical Google, one step forward but two steps back for users who want to do more than just buy a phone.
Oh well, guess I will live with stock for a while and let Lineage get more stable (maybe even official).
Can you use Swift Backup to backup app data without being rooted?
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Can you use Swift Backup to backup app data without being rooted?
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As far as I know no, unfortunately.
"swift" is closed source software being distributed by somebody you can't hold accountable for any kind of security problems in the software. It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously). I would HIGHLY recommend that you avoid this software.
Better backup software is *NEO Backup* (available on F-Droid), which is open source and quite auditable.
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"swift" is closed source software being distributed by somebody you can't hold accountable for any kind of security problems in the software. It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously). I would HIGHLY recommend that you avoid this software.
Better backup software is *NEO Backup* (available on F-Droid), which is open source and quite auditable.
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You mean like a Microsoft system
or an apple system
Both are closed source
I don't vouch for swift backup, I tried it and most of my restored apps crashed repeatedly / didn't backup correctly. I am still looking for a good backup android solution that works similar to windows system image backups.
I've used it since day one
I've never had a problem with it
I've been using a Google phone since day one
The only backup problem I ever had was tibu
That was the biggest piece of **** there was
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You mean like a Microsoft system
or an apple system
Both are closed source
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Both are hideously untrustworthy, but at least you can hold them accountable for data theft.
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It has the capability of connecting to the internet even if you deny network permission (on an android distribution that has such option, obviously).
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Curious, does that include being blocked by a a rooted system level firewall (AFWall+/iptables)?
I've never trusted Google's "toggles" to turn things off properly.
And FWIW - You (as an individual user) are as likely to hold crApple/Micro$oft accountable as you would the author of Swift for any data theft.
EDIT - That said, I will give NEO a look, options are always good to have available.
NEO requires root
Maybe this helps someone.
I do full backup with:
- Plug phone into PC and copy each folder down. Sometimes you have to go one-by-one, or a few folders at once, or Windows just freezes up. Once all copied, great.
- Use Super Backup app from Play Store to make a backup of everything. Calendar, Call Logs, Contacts, etc.
Once all done:
Use the phone's built-in migration solution IF same brand; IF not, use Google app to transfer/migrate. This will copy most of your app settings and whatnot to your new device. (I skip pictures, etc.) To copy over pictures, I just use Windows and the previously made backup to copy over the DCIM folder for example.
And that's it, works flawless for me.
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NEO requires root
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Non-issue, I rooted the phone the day I got it.
I won't own a phone that can't be rooted.
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Maybe this helps someone.
I do full backup with:
- Plug phone into PC and copy each folder down. Sometimes you have to go one-by-one, or a few folders at once, or Windows just freezes up. Once all copied, great.
- Use Super Backup app from Play Store to make a backup of everything. Calendar, Call Logs, Contacts, etc.
Once all done:
Use the phone's built-in migration solution IF same brand; IF not, use Google app to transfer/migrate. This will copy most of your app settings and whatnot to your new device. (I skip pictures, etc.) To copy over pictures, I just use Windows and the previously made backup to copy over the DCIM folder for example.
And that's it, works flawless for me.
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I do something similar for migration, but I'm not looking for a one time migration. I want to be able to bounce around on a couple custom ROMs for a day or two and then settle on the one I like. Used to be easy with TWRP backup to image the entire phone in a single step, not so much any more.
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Curious, does that include being blocked by a a rooted system level firewall (AFWall+/iptables)?
I've never trusted Google's "toggles" to turn things off properly.
And FWIW - You (as an individual user) are as likely to hold crApple/Micro$oft accountable as you would the author of Swift for any data theft.
EDIT - That said, I will give NEO a look, options are always good to have available.
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Root can bypass *everything*. No exception. That includes either switching to a different user to work around firewall rules, or even adjusting the rules to suit. Selinux? "setenforce 0".
As far as holding the fruit company or vaxx pushers accountable, keep in mind that its not just YOU needing to hold them accountable, but EVERYBODY ELSE harmed by their software. So yes, it will come to something VERY substantial.
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As far as holding the fruit company or vaxx pushers accountable, keep in mind that its not just YOU needing to hold them accountable, but EVERYBODY ELSE harmed by their software. So yes, it will come to something VERY substantial.
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If it's more than just individuals (ie. class action lawsuit), the only ones who get anything "substantial" are the lawyers.
You'll get a coupon for 10% off your next i-Thing or Windoze "upgrade", the lawyers will get the cash.
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If it's more than just individuals (ie. class action lawsuit), the only ones who get anything "substantial" are the lawyers.
You'll get a coupon for 10% off your next i-Thing or Windoze "upgrade", the lawyers will get the cash.
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You assume that the objective is to get a payday, when the objective is actually to punish them for bad behavior.