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[Q] LG G2 Battery concerns (AT&T D800)

Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.

I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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born_fisherman said:
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?

LucariX said:
Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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born_fisherman said:
No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).

LucariX said:
Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?

born_fisherman said:
Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.

LucariX said:
The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.

uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine

born_fisherman said:
I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.

Jacobz1996 said:
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.

LucariX said:
I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?

born_fisherman said:
I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up

I average %5 per hour.

hydeah said:
I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?

LucariX said:
I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.

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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..

hydeah said:
D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.

Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!

born_fisherman said:
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!

Reasons to buy Nexus 5 instead of LG G2

Hey guys. I want to buy one of these two smartphones after almost 4 years with my iphone 4.
LG G2 seems better but something deep inside me holds me back from buying it. I want you guys to help me decide !
I am a hard user of smartphones and i will deal with routing no matter which device i am going to buy.
As i see here at XDA there is a lot more material about routing at the nexus 5 subforum.
Thanks in advance !

Well: if you are a root-maniac, if you want to ever be the first to be updated (until your device is supported, naturally) and if you want to spare a lot of moneys buy the Nexus 5 without thinking too mutch

ash1684 said:
Well: if you are a root-maniac, if you want to ever be the first to be updated (until your device is supported, naturally) and if you want to spare a lot of moneys buy the Nexus 5 without thinking too mutch
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Thank you very much. Well i cant say i am a root maniac, something in the middle. In my country G2 is cheaper than Nexus 5

Go with the G2 if its cheaper. Bigger screen, better battery, better camera. That is if ur not picky with timely updates and dev support
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1) The Nexus 5 runs pure Google Android.
2) The N5 is cheaper.
3) The N5 is easily unlockable and rootable.
4) The G2 will have LG bloatware as well as carrier bloatware if you get a carrier variant.
5) The N5 is more customizable as it has more third-party development since it is so easily unlocked and rooted.
6) The N5 will continue to get firmware updates from Google long after LG abandons the G2 in favor of its successor.
7) Likewise the N5 will continue to see third-party development long after developers abandon the G2.
8) Pure Android outperforms LG, Samsung, and HTC's adulterated versions of Android.

Pros for G2:
* better camera
* bigger battery
Pros for N5:
* pure Android
* faster updates
* more developers
also, keep in mind that the G2 has a bigger screen (can be con or pro)
*edit* too late

For me it is only a price question !

Have both
I own both,
Well I did I currently have a very sick LGG2 so brought the nexus 5 till I can revive the G2.
So far my main takeaway, and I am still trying to work it out is the AWFUL battery life on the nexus. It's AS bad as the galaxy nexus I used last week while I waited for my 5 to arrive. I am gutted.
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
Anyway have greenify, better battery stats and elemental X all running, hoping it gets better because this is terrible.
Any one have the same issue, did you fix it?
LGG2 I could have the phone off charge for 12 hours and still have 90% left.

Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
aviduser said:
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
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That's not not normal.

I must admit I preferred the G2
bblzd said:
Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
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In the hand it felt more premium, definitely prefer stock to the LG software which is a series of pointless additions (except quiet time which should be STOCK)
Gutted I messed up my G2, hopefully this battery thing comes good or I will sell the nexus and buy ANOTHER G2, no maybe a moto x

Hi,
Some reading to help you to decide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881...
This thread will take the same way, you will have exactly the same advices/opinions...

aviduser said:
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
Anyway have greenify, better battery stats and elemental X all running, hoping it gets better because this is terrible.
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That's definitely not normal. Mine drains maybe .5% or so per hour at idle. You must have something running in the background draining all that power. It could also be your ROM/kernal. You might want to try reverting back to stock and seeing if it improves. Also before you do anything, you might want to try wiping the cache/dalvik. Sometimes that helps with random battery problems.

Exactly
BirchBarlow said:
That's definitely not normal. Mine drains maybe .5% or so per hour at idle. You must have something running in the background draining all that power. It could also be your ROM/kernal. You might want to try reverting back to stock and seeing if it improves. Also before you do anything, you might want to try wiping the cache/dalvik. Sometimes that helps with random battery problems.
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Have tried wiping both, first thing I thought this morning! Kernel is elementalx, flashed last night.
I was expecting 5% or less an hour even 5% with wifi only and phone in pocket seems excessive compared to the G2. Switching to Franco in 5 minutes after I type this and download his app.

aviduser said:
In the hand it felt more premium, definitely prefer stock to the LG software which is a series of pointless additions (except quiet time which should be STOCK)
Gutted I messed up my G2, hopefully this battery thing comes good or I will sell the nexus and buy ANOTHER G2, no maybe a moto x
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bblzd said:
Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
That's not not normal.
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Does this mean that both of them are mess ? Mobile application development professionals don't recommend the moto x.

I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle..
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my stock N5 will loose may be 5% battery overnight. Something is wrong with your phone or apps. I don't use battery saving apps but I force kill some startup services to keep it clean (and hit the EScleaner widget several times a day)

Thats sounds about right
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my stock N5 will loose may be 5% battery overnight. Something is wrong with your phone or apps. I don't use battery saving apps but I force kill some startup services to keep it clean (and hit the EScleaner widget several times a day)
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I was expecting 5% overnight.
Lets see how it goes on Franco and if that doesn't work I will factory reset and see if that cures it. I am running stock, I ran a custom 4.2 rom on the G2. Maybe I should go and flash non stock again, sheesh what a hassle, I thought I could get away with root and xposed this time.

If phone is less then a couple days old, all this is moot.
Hasn't settled yet.
Otherwise as said, it's not normal.
WR
Sent from my Nexus 5

Just so there is no result in "this device" vs "that device"....going to just close this thread down before, it goes down hill.....thanks.

Really disliking this phone...

I was so bullish on this phone when I got it. I convinced my whole family and some friends that THIS was the phone to buy. I did a jump upgrade from my note 5 to this one.
I really don't like it...
There's just so many things... But it really comes down to battery and performance.
Even though it has the same size battery as the note 5, it seems to get a lot less use time or even sleep time. I finally... Got my promo battery (stole my brothers, even though I did mine first, it still says awaiting ship) so hopefully it won't be as much of an issue but it just dies too fast. The standby time is really killing me though. With the note, when it was in my pocket not being used it would hardly drop at all, this drops noticeably.
Every so often, doesn't happen all the time but when it does.... Happened last night when I was on a job. The phone (even when sitting in my pocket doing nothing) gets piping hot and murders the battery before my eyes. I tried clearing recent apps, restarting the phone... Nothing helped. Luckily I had an external battery pack on me. Problem seemed to fix itself after a few hours.
Performance... The stuttering and lag here and there... Whatever, I can deal with that. But when the performance affect the bluetooth playback.... I mean when the phone can be right next to the headset but it will still cut in and out because the phone is getting overworked.... Not cool.
Second screen is practically useless. One of the main points is to get notifications out of your way... Messages from most chat clients still want to do a heads up notification on the main screen and there doesn't seem to be a way to move them to the second screen... To me, this was a big sell of the phone.. Maybe an update? Idk.. Its already been a few months and crickets.
On that note, why the hell can't I customize the info on the second screen?? I want battery percentage. How about instead of a effing cloud it said the temperature?? Wtvr.. That's never gonna happen.
That top left light bleed is ridiculous.
Screen just isn't nearly as bright as the note 5.. I guess I can't really blame them because samsung just has the best screens.. But it seems to lose alot of light when you aren't looking at the screen dead on.
What samsung did with the dpi on the note 5 is what everyone should have done a long time ago with big phones. Helps with productivity. Whenever I see a note 5...i hate the big everything on this phone...
Even though I still have my note 5 (have to do the jump switch in the store) I'm out of my buyers remorse for the v10, so I'd have to keep both of I wanted the note 5.. I can waste one of my jumps to go back to it... But I'm not gonna do that.
Look, these are obviously first world problems but still.. Why do we have these problems on a supposedly high end phone. Most of this is software that they can fix if they felt like it....

mottyengel said:
I was so bullish on this phone when I got it. I convinced my whole family and some friends that THIS was the phone to buy. I did a jump upgrade from my note 5 to this one.
I really don't like it...
There's just so many things... But it really comes down to battery and performance.
Even though it has the same size battery as the note 5, it seems to get a lot less use time or even sleep time. I finally... Got my promo battery (stole my brothers, even though I did mine first, it still says awaiting ship) so hopefully it won't be as much of an issue but it just dies too fast. The standby time is really killing me though. With the note, when it was in my pocket not being used it would hardly drop at all, this drops noticeably.
Every so often, doesn't happen all the time but when it does.... Happened last night when I was on a job. The phone (even when sitting in my pocket doing nothing) gets piping hot and murders the battery before my eyes. I tried clearing recent apps, restarting the phone... Nothing helped. Luckily I had an external battery pack on me. Problem seemed to fix itself after a few hours.
Performance... The stuttering and lag here and there... Whatever, I can deal with that. But when the performance affect the bluetooth playback.... I mean when the phone can be right next to the headset but it will still cut in and out because the phone is getting overworked.... Not cool.
Second screen is practically useless. One of the main points is to get notifications out of your way... Messages from most chat clients still want to do a heads up notification on the main screen and there doesn't seem to be a way to move them to the second screen... To me, this was a big sell of the phone.. Maybe an update? Idk.. Its already been a few months and crickets.
On that note, why the hell can't I customize the info on the second screen?? I want battery percentage. How about instead of a effing cloud it said the temperature?? Wtvr.. That's never gonna happen.
That top left light bleed is ridiculous.
Screen just isn't nearly as bright as the note 5.. I guess I can't really blame them because samsung just has the best screens.. But it seems to lose alot of light when you aren't looking at the screen dead on.
What samsung did with the dpi on the note 5 is what everyone should have done a long time ago with big phones. Helps with productivity. Whenever I see a note 5...i hate the big everything on this phone...
Even though I still have my note 5 (have to do the jump switch in the store) I'm out of my buyers remorse for the v10, so I'd have to keep both of I wanted the note 5.. I can waste one of my jumps to go back to it... But I'm not gonna do that.
Look, these are obviously first world problems but still.. Why do we have these problems on a supposedly high end phone. Most of this is software that they can fix if they felt like it....
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Oh, and I hate that I need to wait a second for the phone to want to turn on when I take it out of my pocket. First the second screeched to turn on then I can turn it on.... Super annoying..

I can relate to a few of these things coming from a note 4..the battery life was pretty stellar on the note 4 plus I had an extra battery which was nice.
I like the second screen mainly for calendar events.. I like having a reminder of what I have coming up for the day.
I don't feel that this is a huge upgrade from my note 4 but the build quality is nicer.
I'm hoping marshmallow will improve the battery some more..
Overall I'm okay with the phone, feels a bit big at time but overall I'm okay with it
And yeah, wish all notifications would show up on the second a even, I have that problem too.
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If the phone is running hot in standby, something's wrong. If the issue persists after factory resetting the phone, it's probably defective and should be replaced under warranty.
Battery wise ... my V10's standby time has improved a lot now that the battery has gone through charge/recharge cycles and got calibrated. I take it off the charger at 7:30 AM, stream music for 20 min while driving, send a few texts and emails during the day, read a few articles (so ... light use) and by 5 PM I still have 85% battery left. This is in a huge building with Verizon repeaters on the roof.

As far as piping hot battery drain, something is causing that. It's not normal.
Lag, my note 5 lags just as much as this phone. Not much.
Have you done a full factory reset yet?
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blackhemi4x4 said:
As far as piping hot battery drain, something is causing that. It's not normal.
Lag, my note 5 lags just as much as this phone. Not much.
Have you done a full factory reset yet?
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hmm.. i was thinking about a warranty replacement.. It's just so much work to transfer anything if it wont even help. Wanted to see if anyone else is having these issues. I guess I'll exchange it then..

You could try and monitor your apps using gsam battery or else. Use factory reset as your last resort, if your V10 is still acting funny, return it to get a new one.
That being said, the Snapdragon 808 isn't without flaws, it easily warms up (at least some of the 808 out there) on light use, others can overheat (mine did on my G4). It's not as wide spread as the 810 but if you visit any given G4 forums on Xda or elsewhere, there will be complaints about that.
Last but not least, battery life was going to be one, if not the main weakness of this phone, same battery in the G4 (same capacity since the G2...) and the G4 has a smaller display and just one screen, and battery life was never its strong suit, so moving on go the V10... Well, there's that.
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Those with the battery drain issue has has a huge success rate by the factory reset. I had it too, and factory reset fixed it. I even used the LG backup for some things, messages and call logs. Not settings and definitely not apps. I let the apps download from the store on their own.
Lag often happens during fast battery discharge. Something is using a lot of power and that will create lag.
My opinions are neutral, as I have had both, and enjoyed both phones. I have had a overall better experience with the V10 though. But, the V10 does have some flaws that are hopefully fixed with a software update soon.
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It's amazing how some rogue apps can screw with battery life. I get mostly great battery life....I have over 700 downloaded and system apps and use greenify and sdmaid to tame most of them.
One day I installed a bunch of games and Snapchat beta to test out. My battery life took a dump. I couldn't figure out which one it was, so I uninstalled all of those from that day. Now...back to normal
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I have non of these issues this phone is a beast
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Why would you trade your note for a V10? No offense but the Note is better unless you absolutely need an SD card and a removable battery.
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Lots people jumped ship from the note for this phone. I am one of them and I haven't looked back
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Tbh sometimes I consider going to the note. I love the battery and the sd card slot but sometimes this phone has some weird lag.
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blestsol said:
Tbh sometimes I consider going to the note. I love the battery and the sd card slot but sometimes this phone has some weird lag.
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The note had its fair share of issues too. Its just a matter of finding what issues you want or may need to deal with.
In my case, the note couldn't handle opening office documents and running outlook without completely freezing up.
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I think your problems are abnormal OP. No probs with battery life and getting at least 2 more hours of SoT than my Note 5. Also the heat and battery drain are definitely not normal.

If the note 5 gets like 4.5 hrs of on screen time could you tell me how you're getting at least two more hours?
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If the note 5 gets like 4.5 hrs of on screen time could you tell me how you're getting at least two more hours?
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I freeze or remove all apps that are draining battery and useless and use Greenify to sleep the phone and save wear and tear on the power button. I also get 6h SoT with Bluetooth on all the time.

blestsol said:
If the note 5 gets like 4.5 hrs of on screen time could you tell me how you're getting at least two more hours?
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yoniinfante said:
Here...[emoji14]
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Can I see what your app usage is?
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My standby seems to be good. Charge it to 100%, if I let it sleep it's still at 100% or 99-98% an hour or two later. Only heating/drain I've had recently with it was when I tried setting up a outlook.com email using the exchange server. Killed and disable that, set it up thru imap.
Haven't noticed any major lag or stuttering, then again I close and greenify regularly. Some apps once in a while I need to refresh when it pops up a connection issue, could be the app or my network.
I've only tried bluetooth with my clock radio and anker speaker, both good.
Second screen light bleed seems to fall into two camps, a little bit which is only noticeable in a dark room, or very noticeable. I'm in the little bit camp. LG should have done a better job there. I never notice the bleed when the main screen is on, and when the main screen off I have the second screen off because it is so dim it is pointless. Only time I notice it now is during a restart. Some customization optimization options for the second screen would be good. Is widget support even possible on the second screen? Considering I'm on Verizon, probably will never see any good updates like that.
Coming from a BlackBerry I'm enjoying the V10 and the amount of customization I can do. Plus I can get some good pics of my daughter. Here's to hoping for some software tweaks from LG......

real life review...5 months later...and rant

Hi guys. I have had the G4 XT1625 since September 2016. Bought it unlocked at best buy. The screen on my G3 shattered so I thought I would upgrade.
First off it was an upgrade in terms of speed and resolution. I would pretty much say it stops there. I have had every Moto G since first gen. My Verizon G is still up on the shelf as an emergency backup. Hated the second gen. Loved the G3. I expected the G4 to be a great improvement I was mistaken.
Here's where the rant starts.
My major issue straight up is the size. Why so large? It doesn't even fit in the cup holders in my car. But that's a personal opinion.
Next issue I have experienced is it's just straight up NOT reliable. I use my phone for everything, work and play. It gets so hot it bogs down. Random reboots and sometimes just doesn't do what I want it to do. Nothing on Android but it's just not as good as the G3 was.
The phone just has problems. Ghost touch is dumb. I had to get the battery replaced because it wouldn't hold a charge. Apparently according to support don't use the supplied turbo charger. WTF right? It comes back in a couple days for repair for the power button breaking. That's horrible after only a couple months. I feel like the phone isn't made for people who use it all the time.
So now I have a Galaxy S5 and it's good with more support on XDA. I appreciate everyone's opinions if you wish to comment but I am just giving my real life review.
Keep up the good work XDA.

I had nearly the same bad experience with my zuk z1. Bad fp sensor, Bad digitizer, very bad support from manufacturer. Now I'm on g4 plus and totally happy.

Sounds like the OP bought a lemon. No such issues with mine, it's a great phone.
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Love this phone, but have to be honest.. first one had DOA fingerprint reader. Hoping no trouble with this one, as always root. Super value, and my first with a FPR, which is really convenient.

I upgraded from a Nexus 5, I haven't noticed any such issues that the OP had, the only issue I had was trying to update to Nougat without unlocking my bootloader, but when the Fastboot flashable files were released I resolved that issue, compared to any other Moto G I've had, I've noticed huge improvements in both speed and reliability, I enjoy the larger screen and speed improvements even vs the Nexus 5, same amount of RAM between the two, only real difference I can see is the processor.

I am on stock rom and i get only 3-3.5 hr sot a day , on lineage os i got only 2 hr a day
i dont get how people say the battry life is great
if it werent for the turbo charger id kill myself
anyone feel me !?

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I am on stock rom and i get only 3-3.5 hr sot a day , on lineage os i got only 2 hr a day
i dont get how people say the battry life is great
if it werent for the turbo charger id kill myself
anyone feel me !?
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Single problem, can't confirm.

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Single problem, can't confirm.
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Good stats , which rom ?
maybe its due to 4g!?

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Good stats , which rom ?
maybe its due to 4g!?
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LineageOS OMS 20170124, official build has not a modified kernel, so I can't reach 6h.
What do you mean with 4g?

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LineageOS OMS 20170124, official build has not a modified kernel, so I can't reach 6h.
What do you mean with 4g?
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4g network (VOLTE)
i tried your rom , felt some choppiness in ui so installed the official lineage
where i had a bad standby drain

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4g network (VOLTE)
i tried your rom , felt some choppiness in ui so installed the official lineage
where i had a bad standby drain
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I set animations to 0 without any ui lag. I use Nova Launcher. I'm using 4g too, but not for volte calls(Germany isn't a volte friendly country )

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I set animations to 0 without any ui lag. I use Nova Launcher. I'm using 4g too, but not for volte calls(Germany isn't a volte friendly country )
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I thought the default anim speed is 1
Or did you turn off the anim

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I thought the default anim speed is 1
Or did you turn off the anim
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Yeah I mean off, I don't have time to watch or wait for animations

I think the comments in the thread got off topic. I used the phone much more screen on time than most people. Upwards of 4-5 hours or more a day. On LTE and I commute. So for comparison most people don't push a phone like I do.
Moto decided to not repair my device. Actually gave me a new one. Side note on that...my old one had been bootloader unlocked and they replaced it instead of repair. Gave it to the GF since it's better than her old phone and she doesnt use it near as much as me.
So far GS5 has been working fine lasting longer than the G did and was the same price with more stuff.
Thank you everyone for your opinion.

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I think the comments in the thread got off topic. I used the phone much more screen on time than most people. Upwards of 4-5 hours or more a day. On LTE and I commute. So for comparison most people don't push a phone like I do.
Moto decided to not repair my device. Actually gave me a new one. Side note on that...my old one had been bootloader unlocked and they replaced it instead of repair. Gave it to the GF since it's better than her old phone and she doesnt use it near as much as me.
So far GS5 has been working fine lasting longer than the G did and was the same price with more stuff.
Thank you everyone for your opinion.
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You're not the only one using the phone more the 5h sot https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLZ0lKNTVYaVowRG8 you should have a look in the other rom threads too

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You're not the only one using the phone more the 5h sot https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B4Zy8uoEfFKLZ0lKNTVYaVowRG8 you should have a look in the other rom threads too
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There is a difference between screen on time and actively using it during that time. I have tried multiple Roms. Lineage was definitely the best but kept going back to stock because they just aren't stable enough to be used constantly in the business environment. I have also looked through multiple threads and articles. Seems common issues with the battery and overall issues with the phone itself.
I still stand by my review of Moto could have done a lot better with the device.

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There is a difference between screen on time and actively using it during that time.
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Of course, I don't use it 7h permanent. It's also dependent what you're doing while screen on. Gaming sucks more then surfing for example. That should be clear. That's what most people don't understand. It's like driving a car and want to reach the nedc. Everybody gets different consumption values. And therefore you must be careful with comparing different devices, rom and software for sot. @1chrome said it today also.
Everybody should accept everybodys opinion. I do it too. Your review is OK, but keep in mind that it seems you're a minority with your mentiond problems on this device

This device can give me atleast 4hrs of sot based on my usage which is not good but not bad either, I feel more let down by "ghost touch" and that easily scratch able camera glass than the battery life. Apart from that this is a decent performer and I like how it looks, 3 things I love about this device is,
1. The display, it's awesome
2. The front firing speaker, it has more depth compared to any other speaker I have used and I love speakers that have more depth than noise.
3. The fingerprint scanner's position, it's really where it needs to be, again a personal preference.
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Battery on the regular Note 10

I know its too early to tell yet, but id be really interested to hear how the battery is fairing up, I have the S10+ atm and really like the smaller Notes form factor, seems the perfect size for me. Ive compared my phone to the Note and it does feel like a downgrade in a few area's, but yeh really interested in the battery really. Thanks.
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Battery life is mediocre at most, maybe 1 full day with medium use, nothing exceptional.

Yea I bought it. Was expecting a little more from it battery. I knew this would be an issue going into it but did t realize it would be so bare minimum.

I purchased the regular Note 10. I'm only on day 3. I'm happy with the battery life. The 1st day I used it I got between 5.5-6 hours SOT and that was mostly WiFi. I charged it and took it off the charger at 2am to see how it drained overnight. I woke up and it was at 95% after being idle for 7 hours. I went to work with the phone and my stats from yesterday was 4.5 SOT with almost 24 hours being off the charger.
I think I use the phone pretty regular. Most of my user is from YouTube and Netflix. With yesterday's use I watched the 1st half of the Jets vs Saints.

So far I think its a little better then Pixel 3. Thanks to my recent increased use and Pixel 3 I started freaking out and plugging in charger all the time, need to go back to normal use where you unplug in the morning and plug back in before bedtime.

Here are some screen shots of my user of the regular Note 10. I'm at almost 16 hours off the charger. It's 9:20pm here. The battery life is better than my S10. I'm going on vacation tomorrow, depending how the photos are for me trip will determine if this phone is a keeper. So far I'm happy.

Thanks for everyone's replies, I'll wait a bit until I bite the bullet and thats if I do. I'm happy with the s10+ battery, obviously it won't be as good as that but I'll wait to hear more info on it. Cheers.
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Here is a comparison with mixed usage on both Notes https://youtu.be/IrX0rp_Bnbw

Iam feeling the same way. I have pulled the trigger on the plus model mainly because i got it at a good price, and for the bigger battery plus i kinda feel that it's the real note 10 and the smaller version just seems like a downgrade.
Iam having some regrets now though after handling both in person. I just much prefer the size of the smaller note 10 and iam telling myself that the battery should be good enough to last a full day which is all we need really. Expandable storage isn't an issue as 256gb is more then enough for most users (certainly for me)
Iam now tempted to return my plus model when it arrives even though deep down i love that on paper it's technically the superior device. I wish the smaller note had a bigger battery, quad HD screen and the depth sensing camera.
If they had of just made one model somewhere in the middle in terms of size with maybe a 6.5 screen it would have been perfect but oh well.
It's ironic too that most ppl love the idea of a bigger screen but how many of us actually take advantage of that and make use of it. Most of us use our phones to communicate with each other so why do we even need bigger screens? Nice to look at but that's kinda it or am i wrong?

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It's ironic too that most ppl love the idea of a bigger screen but how many of us actually take advantage of that and make use of it. Most of us use our phones to communicate with each other so why do we even need bigger screens? Nice to look at but that's kinda it or am i wrong?
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Ehh media consumption? Many people play games too.

Well I couldn't wait any longer and have the regular Note 10 coming tomorrow. I still have my S10+. I just hope the battery doesn't spoil it for me. With my S10+ I never worry about the battery because its never let me down. But I love the size of the Note 10. Like alot of people have said its just a shame they had to strip it down so much compared to the Note 10 plus. Anyway I have 14 days to compare. I'm really excited to see how i get on, hope its not a let down. If it is then I'll wait on the S11 or even the next huawei phone. I had the Huawei Mate 20 pro just before the S10+ and it was great phone. I think I just like to try new things.

Best I've got yet
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6hrs 21min SOT
14hr 8min on battery

That's not too shabby

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Ehh media consumption? Many people play games too.
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What i mean is that there are a lot of people that crave a bigger screen but dont even take advantage of it when they have it! Some people dont need a bigger screen but want it anyway imo!

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I don't have an image to post but I have gotten similar SOT and standby battery life as you have. I've been able to nearly squeeze 6.5 hours of SOT and got over 24 hours of standby time. I would get better if I didn't keep locations services on full blast all the time plus I have a few survey apps running at all times which also use location/data services so that dings my battery. If you aren't using those things it'll likely be even better. I am totally fine with this battery life.

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I don't have an image to post but I have gotten similar SOT and standby battery life as you have. I've been able to nearly squeeze 6.5 hours of SOT and got over 24 hours of standby time. I would get better if I didn't keep locations services on full blast all the time plus I have a few survey apps running at all times which also use location/data services so that dings my battery. If you aren't using those things it'll likely be even better. I am totally fine with this battery life.
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Wow that's great. I keep Bluetooth active for my gear s3 but not location. What kind of settings are you using?

I have an exynos standard note and like the S10/S10+ before it I would describe battery as acceptable but IMO below par. What bugs me is that it drops at quite a steady rate just sitting there doing nothing, goes from 100 to 99% within a few minutes of coming off charge and continues on from there.

Overall on my Note 10 exynos, the battery is really good. You have to put apps you dont want running in the background to sleep.
AOD I set to tap to show + aodNotify app to wake it up with incoming notifications + edge lighting. Power savings mode when at 50%. Mostly on wifi, no gaming and some light youtube usage.