Hey guys. I want to buy one of these two smartphones after almost 4 years with my iphone 4.
LG G2 seems better but something deep inside me holds me back from buying it. I want you guys to help me decide !
I am a hard user of smartphones and i will deal with routing no matter which device i am going to buy.
As i see here at XDA there is a lot more material about routing at the nexus 5 subforum.
Thanks in advance !
Well: if you are a root-maniac, if you want to ever be the first to be updated (until your device is supported, naturally) and if you want to spare a lot of moneys buy the Nexus 5 without thinking too mutch
ash1684 said:
Well: if you are a root-maniac, if you want to ever be the first to be updated (until your device is supported, naturally) and if you want to spare a lot of moneys buy the Nexus 5 without thinking too mutch
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Thank you very much. Well i cant say i am a root maniac, something in the middle. In my country G2 is cheaper than Nexus 5
Go with the G2 if its cheaper. Bigger screen, better battery, better camera. That is if ur not picky with timely updates and dev support
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1) The Nexus 5 runs pure Google Android.
2) The N5 is cheaper.
3) The N5 is easily unlockable and rootable.
4) The G2 will have LG bloatware as well as carrier bloatware if you get a carrier variant.
5) The N5 is more customizable as it has more third-party development since it is so easily unlocked and rooted.
6) The N5 will continue to get firmware updates from Google long after LG abandons the G2 in favor of its successor.
7) Likewise the N5 will continue to see third-party development long after developers abandon the G2.
8) Pure Android outperforms LG, Samsung, and HTC's adulterated versions of Android.
Pros for G2:
* better camera
* bigger battery
Pros for N5:
* pure Android
* faster updates
* more developers
also, keep in mind that the G2 has a bigger screen (can be con or pro)
*edit* too late
For me it is only a price question !
Have both
I own both,
Well I did I currently have a very sick LGG2 so brought the nexus 5 till I can revive the G2.
So far my main takeaway, and I am still trying to work it out is the AWFUL battery life on the nexus. It's AS bad as the galaxy nexus I used last week while I waited for my 5 to arrive. I am gutted.
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
Anyway have greenify, better battery stats and elemental X all running, hoping it gets better because this is terrible.
Any one have the same issue, did you fix it?
LGG2 I could have the phone off charge for 12 hours and still have 90% left.
Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
aviduser said:
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
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That's not not normal.
I must admit I preferred the G2
bblzd said:
Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
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In the hand it felt more premium, definitely prefer stock to the LG software which is a series of pointless additions (except quiet time which should be STOCK)
Gutted I messed up my G2, hopefully this battery thing comes good or I will sell the nexus and buy ANOTHER G2, no maybe a moto x
Hi,
Some reading to help you to decide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512881...
This thread will take the same way, you will have exactly the same advices/opinions...
aviduser said:
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle.
Anyway have greenify, better battery stats and elemental X all running, hoping it gets better because this is terrible.
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That's definitely not normal. Mine drains maybe .5% or so per hour at idle. You must have something running in the background draining all that power. It could also be your ROM/kernal. You might want to try reverting back to stock and seeing if it improves. Also before you do anything, you might want to try wiping the cache/dalvik. Sometimes that helps with random battery problems.
Exactly
BirchBarlow said:
That's definitely not normal. Mine drains maybe .5% or so per hour at idle. You must have something running in the background draining all that power. It could also be your ROM/kernal. You might want to try reverting back to stock and seeing if it improves. Also before you do anything, you might want to try wiping the cache/dalvik. Sometimes that helps with random battery problems.
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Have tried wiping both, first thing I thought this morning! Kernel is elementalx, flashed last night.
I was expecting 5% or less an hour even 5% with wifi only and phone in pocket seems excessive compared to the G2. Switching to Franco in 5 minutes after I type this and download his app.
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In the hand it felt more premium, definitely prefer stock to the LG software which is a series of pointless additions (except quiet time which should be STOCK)
Gutted I messed up my G2, hopefully this battery thing comes good or I will sell the nexus and buy ANOTHER G2, no maybe a moto x
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bblzd said:
Feel in hand: N5.
Performance on stock: N5
Battery life: G2
Speaker: Tied
X Factor: N5 easier to customize and tinker
That's not not normal.
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Does this mean that both of them are mess ? Mobile application development professionals don't recommend the moto x.
I used the phone last night from fully charged it dropped to 88% with half an hour of screen on, then it wan't placed on the charging pad correctly and this morning after 6 1/2 hours off charge it was on 64%, 20% overnight at idle..
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my stock N5 will loose may be 5% battery overnight. Something is wrong with your phone or apps. I don't use battery saving apps but I force kill some startup services to keep it clean (and hit the EScleaner widget several times a day)
Thats sounds about right
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my stock N5 will loose may be 5% battery overnight. Something is wrong with your phone or apps. I don't use battery saving apps but I force kill some startup services to keep it clean (and hit the EScleaner widget several times a day)
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I was expecting 5% overnight.
Lets see how it goes on Franco and if that doesn't work I will factory reset and see if that cures it. I am running stock, I ran a custom 4.2 rom on the G2. Maybe I should go and flash non stock again, sheesh what a hassle, I thought I could get away with root and xposed this time.
If phone is less then a couple days old, all this is moot.
Hasn't settled yet.
Otherwise as said, it's not normal.
WR
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Just so there is no result in "this device" vs "that device"....going to just close this thread down before, it goes down hill.....thanks.
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First off, yes I realize that complaints about the Skyrocket battery are very common, and coming from a Nexus One I'm no stranger to the nightly charging, but I feel like my phone may have a real issue with proper battery management. For example, I'm looking at my phone now. It's been on for 4hrs 43 mins and is down to 73%. Screen is 61% usage and then the typical other stuff below it. For the record the screen has been on for MAYBE 20 minutes total for answering texts and checking Facebook/twitter updates. I should also note that I am using the Galaxy Nexus extended battery. I feel like every time I turn on the screen I lose 1-3% of battery. For the record, I've tried multiple Roms (Stock, SuperStock, NexusMod, Sky ICS, and running CM9 RC2 currently) and multiple radios (running RUXLF3 currently). I've tried underclocking my CPU with SetCPU and that doesn't seem to help. I just installed JuiceDefender but I don't see that doing much as I can't really turn off data with the screen off because I'm connected to my company's email (refreshes automatically every hour.) The only stuff I get pushed to me is Gmail (and I consider a very busy email day to be 5 emails in a given day). I don't get Twitter or Facebook updates sent to my phone. And yes I have Wifi/BT/GPS off as I don't need them. I'm not in an LTE market and thus am using HSPA+. However, when I WAS in an LTE area (NYC and Atlanta) the battery drain was almost to the point where I almost hoped I DIDN'T get LTE in my market if it meant my battery life would be as atrocious as it was.
Within about a 8 hour period it is not uncommon at all to be around 50%, sometimes dipping as low as 30% depending on how boring my day is thus resulting in more FB/Twitter checks than normal. I know that the Galaxy Extended battery isn't going to give me life on par with a Razr MAXX, but the difference I've noticed between the OEM and Extended seem almost negligible. Is this considered "Typical" performance or am I doing something wrong either software/hardware wise? Could I just have a bad phone and try and get it replaced since it's still under 1 year warranty? I'd prefer to not have to do that unless necessary as it means I need to back everything up and then wipe out my data and go back to Stock and reset the flash counter and then do the ICS update via Kies (because I know AT&T will fire back and say "Try out ICS first and then return if that doesn't work!") and all that fun junk.
Thanks
Sounds about right to me. Just turn off data when you aren't using it is all I can say.
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My thoughts:
1. 50% in 8 hours of moderate use is, imo, not terribly unusual for a Skyrocket without a ton of fine-tuning done to it. The Skyrocket, in general, is not a marathon-runner of a phone. It's better for short sprints, although you can (as I have) make it a marathon runner with extensive tweaking.
2. I haven't tried all the ROMs you've listed, but I can tell you that CM9 on my Captivate and my Skyrocket had severe wakelock issues. My Skyrocket's battery would drain off at twice my usual rate when I tried it, and the ROM prevented my Captivate from sleeping at all (I was lucky to get six hours out of a charge--at best). It's not my favorite ROM for battery life. SkyICS, in my experience, is the absolute best battery life of any ROM.
3. Get rid of JuiceDefender and SetCPU. JuiceDefender works primarily by preventing applications from doing what they want to do. Common sense dictates that when a computer program is unable to do an assigned task because its primary method of doing so is blocked, it will try something else. That "something else" may or may not result in a series of wakelocks. SetCPU is designed for single-core processors. The changes it makes will usually affect only one of the two cores in a Skyrocket's CPU, causing the second core to do weird things. I do, however, recommend using System Tuner. All you need is the free version, because all you need to do is lower your min to 192 and change your governor to ondemand or conservative (I use conservative). You're not forcing new profiles onto the phone's CPU, just giving it a little "attitude adjustment".
4. Get rid of the Facebook app and replace it with Friendcaster. Like, now. The Facebook app uses battery and data even if you tell it not to.
5. Have you downloaded BBS? If so, are you using it to track down your wakelocks? I've got a post inside of the above thread that explains how to do so and, well, explains just about everything else I've already said here or would say if I continued. So, yeah, just read that thread. It's not terribly long, and there's a ton of great info in the OP and throughout.
For reference, I'm a light-to-moderate user of my phone, not as heavy as you by any means. I'm not in an LTE area, which helps. That being said, with the Nexus extended battery, I'm now at 2 days, 5 hours and still at 23% charge. I used the phone very heavily while traveling a couple of days ago, starting at 7:00 AM Eastern at 100% and ending at 11:45 PM Mountain with 11% left, 4h45m of screen-on time.
I just find that odd since I find people giving great stories with the SKY ICS and others in terms of battery life. Ironically, I've found that SKY gave me some of the WORST battery life which really made me feel like a dolt. Here's the latest battery stats attached. Perhaps my view of things is skewed though because my day starts at 6am and I'm at work by 7 (with my phone typically turned on at 6:30) so I still have a good portion of my day left by the time I get home and my phone is typically less than 50% by that time. It's weird to know you have about 7 hours left in your day and your phone is saying like 40% power left.
What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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What's your screen-on time in those screenshots? The frequent wake-ups make me think that you've got some rogue apps syncing when they shouldn't be.
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
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droidbabyxda said:
Hello OP, I have exactly the same problems as you except i'm still running stock (rooted with frozen bloat). I tried the Galaxy Nexus Extended Battery and from stock it was more horrible. appox 1 hour less than the stock battery. I did try not using my phone like normal (about 25 mins of screen on time) which was a PITA because mobile internet is my only way to sneak down time while watching my toddler son. The battery lasted 11 hours. With stock battery, I would've lasted around 10 hours. A lot of people say it might be bad battery BUT how can I have such terrible luck to get a bad stock and a bad GNEX ext batt??? lol. So I ordered the qcell 3800mah extended battery and boy I won't be looking back!!!! I am currently still at 25% battery, 17 hours 20 mins with 3 hour 38 mins screen on!! I watched two Naruto episode last night and didn't have to worry about my phone dying while I'm sleeping and end up not getting important calls from husband early in the morning. The hump doesn't look great but it does not bother me when I'm holding the phone and I have small hands. The weight is a little bit on the heavy side but for so much more battery hours, I don't think you'd mind. Now, if you are the type who is always out and can't find sockets all the time, I suggest you try this qcell ext batt. for $20 you can't go wrong. I know you'd hate spending another $20 but trust me the battery works wonders.
On a side note, i also ordered a charger for my standard and GNEX battery from ebay so I can charge them independently if i ever have to go on long long trips and need super juice. That's another $4, takes two weeks to get here from China. There's a hack here in XDA somewhere to make it a really fast charger because it is really a SLOW charger despite what their ad claims.
Good luck!!
PS: I also bought the SetCPU since everybody swears by it. I never saw any difference.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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My goal is to avoid the super extended battery because then it means I need to buy a whole new case as well. I'm one of those people that "needs" a protective case because the only reason I have the Skyrocket is because last December my 1 year old took my beloved Nexus One and threw it down 16 flights of stairs. The phone then entered a vegetative coma state and never recovered. I can't have that happen again. So basically I'd have to buy the new phone then buy the new case. I'm trying to spend as little extra money as possible.
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well, there are hacks floating around with otter box to fit the hump back. I'm sure you will find other cases from ebay that can be hacked this way too. I don't have this problem since Ii use my phone naked because i only got it for $10.00 and my other line is due for upgrade soon. anyhow, it really depends mostly on what you would rather have, battery life or case. It could be the phone but most likely AT&T will tell you that smartphones consume a lot of energy and if you are not within that 30 day period anymore they'll probably give you a refurbished one and you might end up with a more dud one than the one you already have.
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Is it in your pocket a lot or out of sight
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I try to keep my phone out of my pocket because I don't think cell waves near my "area" is a good combination. When I am at work it's on my desk for about 7 hours, and then at home I usually leave it out (at a high elevation away from my daughter of course.)
Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
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I just checked and it says 1 hour 4 minutes. There's NO way it's been on that long, or at least not with me looking at it, and I usually turn off my screen when I'm done as opposed to letting it go to time out, which is 60 seconds anyways. I'd say 30 minutes would be it AT MOST.
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That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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Does your screen kick on when you get notifications do you know
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No but the 4 buttons do as it is a CM9 feature. Honestly though they aren't on for very long as I usually am near my phone and notice such things rather quickly.
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That's still a little high. I was going to ask if your volume rocker wakes your phone, as that can be a big phantom screen-on culprit, but if your phone's on you desk most of the time...
Download BBS and pin down your wakelocks and alarms (which cause wakelocks) from there. If your phone's not suffering any extreme drain from a rogue app or process, then you might just be at the best you're going to get for your usage.
Have you tried different radios at all? I've heard those can have a minor effect on battery life, depending upon your area.
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I don't use the volume rocker for waking just FYI.
I got BBS. It looks informative but I'm not really sure what I should be focusing in terms of statistics and what, if anything should jump out as problematic. Any tips?
I have tried at least 4 different radios but I haven't noticed any major difference between them.
I just saw that CM9 has now been officially released in stable form. Maybe that will help. I'll try that ROM now. I hope CM9 is not the issue, as I've always been a "Vanilla Android" kind of guy and I really like how ICS is designed. I never liked how the other ROMS still had touches of Touchwiz in them. I especially don't like how it mimics iOS styles so much. I mean, I'm definitely pro-Samsung in the major lawsuit, but Apple has more than a few valid points in their argument. Having similar icons and a SMS theme that basically mimics iOS isn't going to help Sammy in the big lawsuit.
True, it's a well-known problem. You may find some rom with better battery life (here is the rom I'm using: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1436854). You can also download some apps that save your battery. Try to turn off GPS, Wi-fi and data when you're not using, and also do not keep the brightness of your screen too high. I hope these would be helpful to you.
Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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Check the link in my sig for details on how to really use BBS to improve your battery life. You're not that far off of a normal battery life for moderate to heavy usage, so just tweak it and go from there.
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The thing is though is that I don't consider myself to be a moderate to heavy user, but more of a light to moderate. As I said, on a typical day I answer maybe 5-15 text messages, check Facebook/Twitter a handful of times, almost never get emails sent as I have no life, do almost no web browsing, and maybe take a phone call or 2. I very rarely play games and even less often stream media. My gmail is push but that's about it. I also use Touchdown for Exchange but that queries only once an hour. Am I still being unrealistic with my expectations on my battery?
Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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Something definitely seems off, and you may well have a bad battery or even a bad phone. Try to go through and clean everything up in terms of wakelocks and any possible rogue apps. If you're still in bad shape after cleaning up your phone, something seems off. Mobile data does chew up more battery than Wifi, but not THAT much, and especially not in an HSPA area.
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I don't think it's a battery issue. I've used the OEM and the Galaxy Nexus extended battery and both are delivering similar performance (although GN is slightly better obviously.) And as I mentioned, when I was in an LTE area my battery was getting beat down like Homer Simpson in a fight with Drederick Tatum.
Would it be advisable to try a FULL wipe of my phone? When I was installing CM9 today I saw the option to format EMMC. Should I try doing that or wiping other stuff or would that just do more bad than good? Should I try wiping that and/or the SD card?
Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
Looks normal to me. What's ingress? A game?
K****ij Agrawal said:
Hi!
I am new to the nexus 5 community and I just got my nexus 5 about 2 days ago
After fully charging it I started using it , I have heard that nexus 5 has battery issues and that's why I only want you people to help me tell how the battery life of my phone is for a brand new device by seeing the screenshots of my usage.
Here are the screenshots:
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Not bad. I would disable Wi-Fi always scanning available (even if Wi-Fi is off), location to start. That's not bad though and is about what I get, but you might be able to get better SOT.
the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
Seems normal to me ,I bought mine month ago
There are no issues with battery on nexus 5. I charge mine usually once in 3 days, my record without charge is about a week.
It really depends on how you use it. Under constant 100% load I think battery can be depleted under 5 hours, as in every other device.
i can use my phone very heavily, and deplete my battery in 6-8 hours. but ill still get 5+ hours screen on time.
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the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
xnormskix said:
wow Simms, you're everywhere lol
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not quite, but in the n5 and n4 forums I am :angel:
Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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Have you tried running the phone down till it switches off? I know it's not good practice to do that often but I like to do it with a new phone relatively early as it makes sure it's calibrated - sometimes phones can either switch off at 5% or, conversely, run on 1% for hours...
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You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
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You don't ever need to do that as it calibrates every time you charge the phone. Also he just got the phone and isn't having any battery issues.
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He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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He means to break in a LIon battery the first three times you kill the battery and then don't take it below 20% after that.
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That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
Thanks!
Thanks a lot guys for taking your time and helping me , nexus 5 is truly an amazing phone.
@Ben36 yes , ingress is a game and its a location based so it keeps running in the background and uses location services.
Guys , I have some questions relating to the vibration motor , is it fine if I ask here or am I supposed to make a new thread?
Thaks a lot once again
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the nexus 5 does not have battery issues, at all. it stupid people that themselves have issues, not the phone.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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oh, no, I 100% agree with you. just like our devices, that all aren't equal, that are all assembled in differing places, that all have smaller parts that are made in more different factories.. the batteries themselves will differ as well. it'll even probably fall onto a bell curve, where most are near the center, and less with better or worse. but 100% they vary.
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I was just about to start a thread about something then I read this. So here's the deal. I agree that it's almost always user error and/or over expectation when it comes to battery. Stupid people are here to stay. I'm neither stupid nor expecting too much from my battery.
I've always been intrigued by how some experienced users get great battery and some get not so great. Has to be user error I always thought. I thought this because I was one of the experienced users getting great battery life. I mean GREAT. Way over 7 SOT all the time.
So a few weeks ago my first phone had an audio port issue that I had RMA'd. I received the new phone and set it up. It had crap battery. I'm talking less then 2 hours SOT. Same ROM, same kernel, same apps, same coverage for mobile and data, same usage. I set about looking for wakelocks and they all where the same as the first phone. Nothing was wrong on my end. I spent over a week troubleshooting. CPU frequencies and time in state where normal. Temps where normal. CPU benching was the same. Awake vs screen on was almost identical. The phone is sleeping like a baby when not in use.
So, using Occam"s razor, it would lead me to believe that not all batteries in the N5 are created equal. After getting off the phone with a google support supervisor a few hours ago he agreed. Another RMA process has been set up and I was promised this phone would make it's way back to LG so they can actually analyze the battery.
Like I said, I used to think the same way you do. Now I'm not so sure.
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Well I feel that there are always some exceptions , some phones may have a manufacturing defect and maybe the phone you are talking about did have one , but these manufacturing defects are mostly really rare.
You should be good to go...just keep an eye on it! Happy Flashing
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That's not helpful and does more harm than good. Li-Po never needs to be user calibrated in any way.
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I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
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I was just explaining what he said. The rumor is (supposedly backed up) that you kill the battery 3 times in a row but never take it close to dying after that and you get the best battery life possible because the battery works best if you only charge it between 20 and 80%. I think there may be something to it because new phones only last like half a day on the first charge but after a week last a day or longer for me. I won't derail this thread though as that's a debate that always loves to go on and I've never found hard proof either way but people who just write websites who supposedly sound smart and can word it quite eloquently.
That being said, I didn't necessarily agree with it, but I was clarifying what was said.
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Thanks for clarifying. Keeping the battery between 20% and 80% is said to help with battery degradation, which after a year or two might affect how much one could get out of a full charge. Most won't find it practical to limit them self to only 60% of their total available battery pool though.
Even hitting 0% isn't as big of a problem as some may think as there is a reserve charge for protection. For instance, mine has full died on me twice due to a power outage (I even attempted a boot up) and I always full charge with no noticeable degradation after 8 months.
I am stuck between the LG G2 and the Nexus 5. I will buy the phone unlocked. Both are priced the same in my country. I've been to multiple stores and tried the devices.
I really like the nexus 5 but the battery life is main concern.
My daily usage is somewhat like this:
2 hours of offline music (screen off).
30-60 minutes of web browsing
10 minutes of phone calls
30-40 minutes spent on apps like feedly and 9gag and other such apps
Average amount of messaging
Don't click a lot of pictures (1-3 in a day or even none)
Average amount of messaging
Most of the day is spent on wifi
Network signal strength is good. No LTE in my country so I use 3G
Little to no gaming on the phone (1 hour cumulatively in 3-4 days, mostly 2D games)
So can I get about 13-16 hours with this kind of usage? Will android lollipop make things better?
Or should I go for the G2. I know that the battery life is much better. But Personally I don't like the user interface on the G2. Plus I've heard that the bootloader is locked on the G2. I know about the Loki bypass but it has been patched up in the 4.4.2 update so I don't know whether I'll be able to flash a custom rom on the G2. Also I've heard that developers are now reluctant to develop for the G2 because of this?
So please suggest what should I buy. Should I get the nexus 5?
G2 will get lollipop update .... That will change ui to that of g3. ...
Also since ur usage is above moderate ... G2 will be better..... my choice would be g2 it suits ur need better
G2 = bigger battery
N5 = updates
And as said above it will get the g3 ui but i heard somewhere that it apparently lags a lot...
That would be it
I don't think anyone can or should decide which phone you should buy. Looking at your list I think it should best for you to decide what you want most from your phone.
I personally have to charge my N5 once a day, sometime twice depend on the usage.
and313 said:
G2 = bigger battery
N5 = updates
And as said above it will get the g3 ui but i heard somewhere that it apparently lags a lot...
That would be it
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Than you for your reply, but I figured out that much by reading the spec sheet of the phones. You're stating the obvious. What I really wanted to know is how the nexus performs. Since you are on this thread, I assume that you have a Nexus 5. What I want to know is how does the battery hold up with your usage. Please elaborate on your usage. Will I be able to get a day out of the nexus with my usage?
I really want the nexus, but the battery life is holding me off, if I can get the usage I want, then I will get the phone
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I don't think anyone can or should decide which phone you should buy. Looking at your list I think it should best for you to decide what you want most from your phone.
I personally have to charge my N5 once a day, sometime twice depend on the usage.
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I agree that I will be the one finally deciding the phone. But I really value you opinions. They will ultimately help me decide. You say you charge you phone once or twice in a day. What is your usage pattern? How many hours do you get out of a single charge? Can I get the usage I mentioned in my first post out of a single charge?
Get a powerbank man problem solved..
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I agree that I will be the one finally deciding the phone. But I really value you opinions. They will ultimately help me decide. You say you charge you phone once or twice in a day. What is your usage pattern? How many hours do you get out of a single charge? Can I get the usage I mentioned in my first post out of a single charge?
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Again. all of this is subjective. Depends on what all apps you've installed and how you've setup your phone. With your usage pattern, it will be slightly difficult for you to pull this off.
The same usage patterns will differ from person to person as it depends on a lot of variables.
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Get a powerbank man problem solved..
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I second this! I'm usually around charger at all times so, battery life doesn't really hurt me much. But, when I know I won't be around a charger, I do carry a powerbank in my backpack!
I am currently running the newest android 5.0 dev preview, and since installing it my battery life has improved drastically. And android 5.0 has a battery saving mode that kicks on at 25,20,15,10, or 5 percent, you choose what percent to set that at. I am a power user to the extreme. I really mean extreme. I have nfc and Bluetooth on all the time, on the web multiple hours per day reading and watching videos, on calls for 1 hour per day. I top off the battery on a wireless charging pad for one hour during lunch, and i leave it on a charging pad overnight. And i get by just fine. But everyones usage will very depending on how you use and set your phone up. I would not let battery life determine my decision if i were you. Look at other features, size, feel, etc. Personally ive had a n5 since launch and i wouldn't trade it for anything at this time.
I had the G2 for a long time. While it was a great phone, with awesome battery life, after now getting a nexus 5 I much prefer this phone even if the battery isn't as good. But its all personal preference. I love this nexus 5.
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Than you for your reply, but I figured out that much by reading the spec sheet of the phones. You're stating the obvious. What I really wanted to know is how the nexus performs. Since you are on this thread, I assume that you have a Nexus 5. What I want to know is how does the battery hold up with your usage. Please elaborate on your usage. Will I be able to get a day out of the nexus with my usage?
I really want the nexus, but the battery life is holding me off, if I can get the usage I want, then I will get the phone
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Sorry i answered to quick. The n5 can give you 2 days if you want but this means that you are on a good kernel (stock or elemental) and on a good rom (stock is the best i think). In this 2 days I dont use data much so the phone is mostly on wifi and i get around 5- 6hrs screen on. I dont dimm the screen i leave it on auto mostly and i have it oveclocked to 2.5. I also cover a lot of browsing in tapatalk, reddit and also in chrome (which became a big batt sucker lately but things are improving). So at least 2hrs in these apps. Also around 20min talk time. All the time i am on 2g with a very good sigbal. My conclusion... It should get you through the day np
Regarding android l people are reporting better battery results
And just to clear it even more. Yesterday i flashed the pa beta 6 build (had enough of L) and left it on the charger through the night. I woke up downloaded a 2gb file via wifi reinstalled a lot of missing apps listened to some music for 30min (i use viperfx which drains the batt even more) and in the end of the day i have a 2hr sot with 12hr standby and 54%. The 2hrs were browsing in bacon, chrome and tapatalk. But this is the first cycle and as you know it needs a bit to settle so battery life gets even better. So in a few days i would expect a 2hr and 30min sot time with the same usage as i had today. This would be it. If you got any more questions just ask
have both these phones in my family... if you get the chance put them side by side.... nexus 5 has a yellow screen
i never notice until i mess with my wife's g2, as my eyes accept the whites on my nexus 5 as normal.
i wish my wife would swap with me
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have both these phones in my family... if you get the chance put them side by side.... nexus 5 has a yellow screen
i never notice until i mess with my wife's g2, as my eyes accept the whites on my nexus 5 as normal.
i wish my wife would swap with me
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I think the yellow screen can be replaced
Imo kernel has a very less effect on battery life.... It solely depends on your usage, network and display brightness..
The Nexus has a battery results thread in the general section. How about checking that out. There's hundreds of members battery times already there to review. ?
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Here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509132
Since you don't have LTE in your country and you don't do intensive gaming, you might want to consider the Moto G 2014. The battery life on the Moto G will be better than the Nexus 5, and unlike the G2 the Moto G is unlockable and the software will be up to date for a good long while. It also doesn't hurt that the G is like half the price of the N5.
G2 easy decision
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Nexus 5.
BirchBarlow said:
Since you don't have LTE in your country and you don't do intensive gaming, you might want to consider the Moto G 2014. The battery life on the Moto G will be better than the Nexus 5, and unlike the G2 the Moto G is unlockable and the software will be up to date for a good long while. It also doesn't hurt that the G is like half the price of the N5.
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3 of my friends have the 2014 Moto G. I've used it and I must say I was impressed. But there are two major shortcomings of the phone. First the barely over 4GB of space for apps. With ART being the default runtime in Lollipop, Apps will only get bigger in size. Second is the 1GB RAM which limits the multitasking to a certain extent. Also I do play intensive games on my phone, on weekends or on my days off when I'm at home, so there's that. More importantly I don't know how the Moto G will hold up over the course of 18-24 months
If someone has no interest in big graphics games, or any CPU intensive activities... And doesn't care about having the "best" phone out there..... The G seems like the best bang for your buck deal out there. ?
I have a note 4 and am planing on getting the v10 plz tell me how is the v10 is there any problem i should know about like the g4 bootloop issue
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I just got one for att, and the phone is solid.
Read, look at review videos. Do some research.
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nabril15 said:
I just got one for att, and the phone is solid.
Read, look at review videos. Do some research.
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I have but last time i got the g4 and reviews where good but bootloop of death and in my country no warranty
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niaxi said:
I have but last time i got the g4 and reviews where good but bootloop of death and in my country no warranty
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There have been very few brick reports or other serious issues, i got my v10 h901 a few months back and it is a super impressive phone. With more devs it would be near perfect. For the current asking price i can't see why not upgrade, this is far superior to note4 imo
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My wife and I each snagged unlocked V10s during a recent sale to replace our G3s that we loved. So far, so good. It's not leaps and bounds better than the G3 for our use, but the camera - particularly the front-facing and manual controls - are great. The second screen takes a little getting used to, but it's handy.
My biggest gripe is that Verizon gimped the phone by removing the Smart Settings feature, and location-based profile changing apps aren't able to find me, so apps like Llama don't work.
rewkim said:
My wife and I each snagged unlocked V10s during a recent sale to replace our G3s that we loved. So far, so good. It's not leaps and bounds better than the G3 for our use, but the camera - particularly the front-facing and manual controls - are great. The second screen takes a little getting used to, but it's handy.
My biggest gripe is that Verizon gimped the phone by removing the Smart Settings feature, and location-based profile changing apps aren't able to find me, so apps like Llama don't work.
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I just picked up the V10 on September 27 from tmobile and have to say i'm impressed so far. But the battery is not even close to what my previous G4 was. Since I have 14 days before I can return it, im still worried about the battery not passing 6pm. The G4 got the boot loop and then was repaired by LG but it came back with LTE issues. So T-mobile gave me the option to jump and I did.
I shut the second screen off completely to see if battery improves. Today I did see the battery last past 6pm before I had to charge it. SO LETS SEE what happens tomorrow.
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I just picked up the V10 on September 27 from tmobile and have to say i'm impressed so far. But the battery is not even close to what my previous G4 was. Since I have 14 days before I can return it, im still worried about the battery not passing 6pm. The G4 got the boot loop and then was repaired by LG but it came back with LTE issues. So T-mobile gave me the option to jump and I did.
I shut the second screen off completely to see if battery improves. Today I did see the battery last past 6pm before I had to charge it. SO LETS SEE what happens tomorrow.
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I also got Tmobile H901 and battery is better. There might be some issue with your battery, how much SOT you are getting? I get 4.5 to 5 hours with moderate use on LTE + Wifi connectivity all day.
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I just picked up the V10 on September 27 from tmobile and have to say i'm impressed so far. But the battery is not even close to what my previous G4 was. Since I have 14 days before I can return it, im still worried about the battery not passing 6pm. The G4 got the boot loop and then was repaired by LG but it came back with LTE issues. So T-mobile gave me the option to jump and I did.
I shut the second screen off completely to see if battery improves. Today I did see the battery last past 6pm before I had to charge it. SO LETS SEE what happens tomorrow.
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The battery is the most disappointing aspect of this phone (I think). My friend had a g4 and he would be down to around 70 by the end of the work day while I got down to 40. Pretty substantial difference.
Fortunately you can get larger batteries for it, 6500 capacity (PowerBear) or even 9000 capacity (ZeroLemon) on amazon. I prefer the powerbear because I can leave the metal sides visible and the weight is much less than with the ZeroLemon.
The second screen takes up very little battery the biggest offender is the main screen, keep the brightness low when you can don't jack the brightness all the way up.
Upgrade to marshmallow if you haven't already and use the program ForceDoze which aggressively puts your phone in Doze mode to save battery. Unfortunately you'll need to have adb sideloader experience or your phone rooted to use it.
There are a lot of things I like about this phone though:
- second screen is excellent for controlling music with the main screen on
- I can put shortcuts on the second screen for my fav apps for quick access.
- I can setup quick calls on the screen which allows me to quickly contact whomever I wish
- camera is fantastic
- the phone doesn't seem to get bogged down when I have a lot of apps installed, my note 3 did this.
- 64gb capacity
- the design is solid, some don't like how heavy it is but I think it makes the device feel solid. I especially like the metal rails on the sides it makes the phone stand out from other phones.
- audio quality is great with high end headphones
The only downs from my perspective is
- second screen could be brighter (fixed on the v20)
- battery life
- I miss the stylus from the note series
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I also got Tmobile H901 and battery is better. There might be some issue with your battery, how much SOT you are getting? I get 4.5 to 5 hours with moderate use on LTE + Wifi connectivity all day.
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Sounds like you have better battery life in your V10. That made me thing I will reset my phone and not use the LG G4 backup to restore. Hope this make is better than what im getting today, see screen shot below:
Today I'm getting 8 hours with estimated 1.26 left at 16%.
my on screen time is only 2h 31m on time. I consider this very bad.
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The battery is the most disappointing aspect of this phone (I think). My friend had a g4 and he would be down to around 70 by the end of the work day while I got down to 40. Pretty substantial difference.
Fortunately you can get larger batteries for it, 6500 capacity (PowerBear) or even 9000 capacity (ZeroLemon) on amazon. I prefer the powerbear because I can leave the metal sides visible and the weight is much less than with the ZeroLemon.
The second screen takes up very little battery the biggest offender is the main screen, keep the brightness low when you can don't jack the brightness all the way up.
Upgrade to marshmallow if you haven't already and use the program ForceDoze which aggressively puts your phone in Doze mode to save battery. Unfortunately you'll need to have adb sideloader experience or your phone rooted to use it.
There are a lot of things I like about this phone though:
- second screen is excellent for controlling music with the main screen on
- I can put shortcuts on the second screen for my fav apps for quick access.
- I can setup quick calls on the screen which allows me to quickly contact whomever I wish
- camera is fantastic
- the phone doesn't seem to get bogged down when I have a lot of apps installed, my note 3 did this.
- 64gb capacity
- the design is solid, some don't like how heavy it is but I think it makes the device feel solid. I especially like the metal rails on the sides it makes the phone stand out from other phones.
- audio quality is great with high end headphones
The only downs from my perspective is
- second screen could be brighter (fixed on the v20)
- battery life
- I miss the stylus from the note series
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Yes the screen is brighter than needed I thing. On my past LG G4 the automatic screen was too low So I used a app called Lux Lite Dash to fix this. Now I use is to make the auto brightness less brighter. After resetting the V10 I will install Lux Lite again. I'll consider ForceDoze if I keep my phone and root it.
Yes I am in MM, thanks for your input.
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Sounds like you have better battery life in your V10. That made me thing I will reset my phone and not use the LG G4 backup to restore. Hope this make is better than what im getting today, see screen shot below:
Today I'm getting 8 hours with estimated 1.26 left at 16%.
my on screen time is only 2h 31m on time. I consider this very bad.
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Yes its almost half of what I am getting. Your network signals are very low, that may also be cause of more battery drain. I disabled almost all Tmobile and other useless google apps (Play games, Movies etc) and getting 4+ Hr SOT.
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Yes its almost half of what I am getting. Your network signals are very low, that may also be cause of more battery drain. I disabled almost all Tmobile and other useless google apps (Play games, Movies etc) and getting 4+ Hr SOT.
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So after resetting my phone yesterday and installing apps manually. I'm glad to say the battery life is way more acceptable today I got 10 hours of usage with 15% battery left. My screen on is only 2h 30m usage and this is a great improvement. My mistake was as soon as I activated the phone the first time I restored everything from a LG G$ back up from my previous phone. That must have done who knows what to the my V10.
Thanks for confirming that my battery life was not normal for this phone and that your phone gave you much better battery. I am more inclined to keeping this phone now. I'm still amazed how good the camera is with manual mode. Its a sick phone.
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I have a note 4 and am planing on getting the v10 plz tell me how is the v10 is there any problem i should know about like the g4 bootloop issue
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it's almost a side-grade. Very minor upgrade at best. I would get the LG v20.
No, unless you are with t mobile and it's under warranty.
Reason being is the boot loop issue. It's better to pay 5 dollars to warranty it out then be out of luck and a phone without it.
And it will boot loop. Eventually.
The phone is solid, don't get me wrong but that issue is a major concern.
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No, unless you are with t mobile and it's under warranty.
Reason being is the boot loop issue. It's better to pay 5 dollars to warranty it out then be out of luck and a phone without it.
And it will boot loop. Eventually.
The phone is solid, don't get me wrong but that issue is a major concern.
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Literally just happened to me today. Bought it in November when it first came out. I thought I was a lucky one.
Just avoid this phone if you can.
anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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Man. Do you live off grid or something and can only charge every 2 days or something. If you want 3+ hours of SOT than you would have to be close to a charger anyways and that's with any phone. All these phones that have come out late 2016 early 2017 have the same battery set up...use your phone and charge it fast and use your phone some more.
My pixel 2 same as my Moto z2 force and my s8
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anyone else notice it? first off, I'd be at like 40 minutes screen on time before I'd drop to 99 percent... now, it drops immediately after unplugging, and that 40 min screen on time, I'll be at like 69 percent now. it's absolutely ridiculous. battery drains like crazy now, but nothing is running in the background that shouldn't be. everything is identical to pre 8.1 update. today I was at right under 60 min screen on time, at like 59 percent. I looked at old screenshots pre 8.1, and I'd be at like 2.5 hours screen on time at 59 percent. it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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I really doubt it's any different than it was. It's more likely the battery wasn't reporting correctly in 8.0. When I was on 8.0 the battery would sit at 100% for at least an hour, maybe 2, all the while I was using the phone. Yes, since 8.1 it drops much faster when I first start using it after removing it from the charger but at the end of the day I still have pretty much the same battery percentage left as I did when I was on 8.0. It drops faster to begin with but in the end, it's the same as before. Rather than planned obsolescence, it's more likely they simply fixed something that wasn't working properly before. There's no way you can use one of these things for an hour or more and not have the battery drop below 100%. Just my two cents worth.
Can't complain. Forgot twice to plug it in at night, woke up both times with 45% left. At my regular use that is good. My previous S7 would have been down to <20%. BTW, this:
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is just utter BS, maybe you should reinforce you aluminum hat...
I can't say my battery life has been bad or gotten worse with 8.1. If anything it got better. I didn't plug mine in last night, woke up with 38% left. That was about 20 hours since last charge. I don't think Google is purposely obsoleting their newest phones a couple months after release either.....
Edit: I should mention, I have my AOD always on, I have Now Playing enabled, double-tap-to wake is disabled, and I use one of the prepackaged Pixel 2 live wallpapers (Marvelous Marble). The only ting I really do thinking of the battery is turn the phone face down when I go to bed since that shuts off the display.
so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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it's absolutely ridiculous that Google is purposely ruining the phone with each update in terms of battery life. I'm not the only one, either. it's on reddit as well. planned obsolescence? yep, I'm starting to think so.
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so i guess the fact that my screen on time has dropped by over an hour means I'm the one who's crazy, and the phone is perfectly fine.... riiiiiggghht.
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I'm pretty sure this part of your post is the crazy part. Your battery drain is probably real. Have you confirmed it exists on a clean install without any apps installed or system configurations changed? Only then should you entertain that this is Google's fault. Even then, accusing them of doing it on purpose runs dangerously close to tinfoil hat territory.
I feel my battery life has gone down slightly going from 8.0 to 8.1. Though, I'm running all the bells and whistles this phone has to offer, along with tasker profiles. I also agree with the previous statement. Perhaps the system wasn't accurately measuring the battery life.
I did have horrible battery life for a bit when I was playing with a new kernel and dirty flashing some things to get Viper4Android working.
I have two Pixel 2 phones (non XL), and honestly they are amazing at battery compared to my HTC M8s (again two) . Are they perfect? No. Are they better than any phone I've ever had? Yes.
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As has been said above, the battery no longer sticks at 100% for the first hour or so of screen on time, but that was always obviously nonsense anyway so a fair conclusion is that it's now better calibrated. But I've noticed no difference overall in battery life: yesterday was the first time I tried running for 2 days rather than charging overnight, and when I plugged it at night it had run for 41 hours with 6 and a quarter hours screen on and 7% remaining, so really not a problem there.
If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.
I don't have any issues with the battery after the 8.1 update. It doesn't stay on 100% for a long time like it used to, but like everyone else is saying, that must have been buggy before. It isn't realistic for the battery to stick on 100% with 40 mins of SOT. Overall I don't see a reduction in battery life and I'm quite happy with the 8.1 update.
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
Ra6idr0y said:
If you're having trouble with an update:
- Use BetterBatteryStats to figure out if any apps are acting up (or just top off the battery, use phone normally, and check Google's battery stats for Apps Using Battery, standby drain and screen on time)
- Clean flash the factory image, set up phone as new, go through charge cycle and check stats.
I'm not having any issues with battery on 8.1 (clean installed factory image). Easily get 4 - 6 hours SOT. As a matter of fact, my battery life is shockingly excellent for a smaller device like this.
Google is not making battery worse on purpose with their brand new flagship device.
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530farm said:
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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Not sure. I haven't used it for quite a while. The built in battery info works well enough for me, I haven't been having issues. It's good for checking wakelocks and some more advanced stuff but I think it needs a few cycles/days before it can analyze properly.
I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.
530farm said:
I was checking BBS and couldn't tell much. Do you still need to install it as a system app?
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No
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IMO battery life has never been great on the Pixel 2. It's the same on 8.1 as it was on 8.0 for me.
Right now I'm trending towards 6 hours SOT (3 hrs SOT at 50%), and I have been BT streaming audiobooks most of the day. I also watched Netflix for 30 min on full brighness. That's better than 8.0 for me, I was lucky to get 5 hrs SOT max.
I would say the calibration is more accurate now, it hung on 100% for too long, so it may appear to drain faster but so far in practice I've gained battery.
Battery life isn't as good as my OP5, but that has a big battery compared to the Pixel 2. I think for it's size it's doing a good job.
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I think it's just the way oreo is. Ever since 8.0 it just drains the battery very aggressively. 8.1 the OS runs smoother, but battery drain is still high. Been the case though since 8.0 for me, nothing new.
I haven't clean flashed in over 6 months though. Just been on 7.1 and been rolling up the OTAs and chugging along. I found using Naptime by Franco helps a bit.
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I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.
I am getting horrible battery life since going to 8.1
I installed the update the night of the 13th. The past 2 days my battery drains to 20% in about 8 hours. At that point whatever is causing it was stopped by the battery saver mode or the reboot I did when I discovered the phone was in battery saver mode.
Light use at work, staring at my phone is not a thing I have time for. No streaming, no surfing. Just checking texts and emails here and there. Prior to the update I'd get home 12 hours after I left the house and be around 75-80%. Not rooted, not unlocked. Bone stock.
Built in battery stats say 'system' is the culprit. Digging deeper I see Google Play Services app used 70% of my battery from about 7am to around 4 or 5pm this evening. I'd post a screen shot but I didn't to think of taking one before I plugged it in. I just installed BBS and will monitor it for a day.
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I guess you are talking about one of your other devices here, rather than the Pixel 2.
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I thought this was the 5x forum for some reason. Pixel 2 no issues. It was my 5x